on 10/14/02 3:30 PM, Tammy Fischer at tjfisch@... wrote:
The most highly qualified interpreters SHOULD be the language role models for Deaf children.
-I thought Deaf adults should be the language models for Deaf children. No matter how good we get most of us are not native users with native competence.
There is no incentive for interpreters to do so - and at $12.50 an hour, who can afford it? YES - Interpreters should STILL go on and pursue advanced training for the good of the profession and their own abilities to do their jobs, however this idea that we all go out and get degrees and the educational world will suddenly welcome us and pay us a bunch more money just doesn't bear out in actual practice.
-No, not yet, but not everything is for those in the field today. Have some vision, leave a legacy. Besides I have yet to see anyone acknowledge that in all likely hood currently certified terps will not need to go back to school! This is for the future, future certification, future tests, future pay, future respect, future standards. The benefits of the future are established with the hard work of today. So no, it won't "suddenly" happen, but it will happen.
Tammy, Thanks for clarifying that the original comments came from Beth Ann. One more comment from me on all this... Of course, Native signers should be the...
Judi Webb
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Oct 15, 2002 4:39 pm
on 10/14/02 3:30 PM, Tammy Fischer at tjfisch@... wrote: The most highly qualified interpreters SHOULD be the language role models for Deaf children. -I...
terperto
terperto@...
Oct 15, 2002 9:13 pm
My post regarding language models for Deaf children was with regard to interpreters in the K-12 setting. Obviously the best language and role models for Deaf...
Tammy Fischer
tjfisch@...
Oct 17, 2002 2:08 am
... Objection, Tammy -- assuming facts not in evidence. :-) The assumption here is that interpreter training programs taken as a whole do a better-than-chance...
Dan Parvaz
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Oct 17, 2002 3:16 am
Word Dan. Also, if this BA/BS thing is a requirement for certification can we not assume (ooh dangerous) that people going for their certification have some ...
terperto
terperto@...
Oct 17, 2002 4:11 am
... I am Deaf. Given a choice, I'd prefer a Deaf "native-ASL'er" as a Deaf child's language model any day. Give the cold-blooded fact that more and more "Deaf...
jrwomack
jrwomack@...
Oct 17, 2002 3:30 pm
Kudos James! Having been in the trenches and fought with the other Deaf Educators with their choice of sign-styles, I know exactly of what you speak! I'm in...
Janice Blum
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Oct 18, 2002 2:47 am
Dear Dan: Please refer to my tirade on EXIT EXAMS in ITP programs :-) Tammy Tammera J. Fischer, CI & CT; NAD IV Certified Sign Language Interpreter (503)...
Tammy Fischer
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Oct 18, 2002 1:44 am
... I missed the tirade in question, but in my ITP (BA, Maryville College) we had comprehensive exams and a senior thesis requirement to graduate... what kind...
Nancy A. Lassiter
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Oct 18, 2002 2:12 am
... Please refer to my response on how little THOSE prove. :-) -Dan....
Dan Parvaz
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Oct 18, 2002 2:12 am
... I personally thought ours was pretty rigorous at MC, but there are always folks who disagree...it was set up to model the RID test just like Tammy said...
Nancy A. Lassiter
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Oct 18, 2002 3:14 am
Yes, in order to graduate from my A.A.S. program - actually, in order to be placed into an internship with an actual Deaf consumer, our program required us to...
Tammy Fischer
tjfisch@...
Oct 18, 2002 2:47 am
Sadly, the laws regarding community college education here in Iowa totally prohibit any sort of exam that weeds people out--you gotta accept everyone who...
Carissa Huffman
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Oct 18, 2002 4:05 am
Dan (and others, since much of this is not just to you :-) ): Put on your helmets and Kevlar folks....... With all due respect, I think having an exit exam is...
Tammy Fischer
tjfisch@...
Oct 18, 2002 3:16 am
The more viable education options we can get, the better...especially those geared DIRECTLY at improving our interpreting work products. I will sign up for ...
Carissa Huffman
angelique_cdc@...
Oct 18, 2002 4:05 am
... Then why is there a culture -- including in Oregon -- than one has to "work one's" way up to taking the RID? Simply walking out of a program and taking a...
Dan Parvaz
dparvaz@...
Oct 18, 2002 4:53 am
I'm already wearing my asbestos undies... ... Let me tell the list about my internship... Maryville College requires 400 hours of internship, and I want to say...
Nancy A. Lassiter
nan.lassiter@...
Oct 18, 2002 11:25 am
Good points, Tammy. I'm one of those interpreters without a degree. I see the value of being educated. That is why I take a class every semester whether it...
James Bell
jabell@...
Oct 18, 2002 3:26 pm
I think this is well stated, James...I get every educational morsel I can find, as well, and think education is important. A degree is only as valuable as the...
Carissa Huffman
angelique_cdc@...
Oct 18, 2002 4:22 pm
thank you, Cherie for being the first person to acknowledge that an A.A.S. degree IS a valid degree - sometimes it is awarded to competent people, and...
terperto
terperto@...
Oct 18, 2002 5:08 pm
... "work one's" way up to taking the RID? Simply walking out of a program and taking a test is occasionally looked upon as arrogant ("Who do you think *you*...
Tammy Fischer
tjfisch@...
Oct 18, 2002 5:20 am
... Is it presumptuous to expect an ITP grad to pass an evaluation at a C- level? That's my point, Tammy: you can't have it both ways. If folks are graduating...
Dan Parvaz
dparvaz@...
Oct 18, 2002 6:00 am
I don't think anyone on the list is dismissing A.A.programs. They are saying standards should be higher to "hopefully" infuse better quality in interpreters....
jrwomack
jrwomack@...
Oct 18, 2002 5:08 pm
Open door policy is what they call it. BUT do not surrender yet. check with your own and other departments to see what they are doing in terms of controlling...
jrwomack
jrwomack@...
Oct 18, 2002 5:08 pm
This posting is an example of what I am talking about - "A.A. Programs" versus "degree programs." An A.A.S. program IS a DEGREE program. An Associate of...
Tammera Fischer
tjfisch@...
Oct 19, 2002 5:43 am
... Ok if you insist. Many programs I see refer to the A.A. as a certificate. But that i not the issue, the issue is increasing interpreter education, ...
jrwomack
jrwomack@...
Oct 19, 2002 2:58 pm
It's also confusing when schools with AA programs (60ish credits) also offer a certificate option (20-something credits). Only one BA program that I know of...
Beth Ann Monn
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Oct 19, 2002 4:56 pm
Another alternative is to go back to what RID had before - IC/TC (lowest) CSC (middle) and MCSC (higher still). Too many people think that CI/CT is the be all...
Denise Wetzler
nisew@...
Oct 19, 2002 9:04 pm
Nice, certified terps doing all that they can are "yahoos". Great, to know we're all out there supporting each other. Always nice to see people pumping...
terperto
terperto@...
Oct 19, 2002 9:29 pm
Alrighty guys...two words of advice: Chill Out! I don't think Denise's point was to put down recently certified interpreters, although I do question the...
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