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Re: Non-Degreed Interpreters [was: Non-Degreed ITP Instructors]   Message List  
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Re: Non-Degreed Interpreters [was: Non-Degreed ITP Instructors]

Tammy Fischer wrote:

>My post regarding language models for Deaf children was with regard to
>interpreters in the K-12 setting. Obviously the best language and role
>models for Deaf children would be Deaf role models - but that isn't going to
>happen in a K-12 setting with interpreters unless you have Deaf
>interpreters - anyone seeing a school district hiring two interpreters per
>class happening any time soon? Doubt it. It would be great, but not
>realistic. So, you took my comments out of context or weren't following the
>thread.
>
I am Deaf. Given a choice, I'd prefer a Deaf "native-ASL'er" as a Deaf
child's language model any day.
Give the cold-blooded fact that more and more "Deaf Adults" are coming
from education systems that
are more messed up than ever before in denying ASL language access
(despite service to the contrary) and
how schools for the Deaf are seeing a increasing resurgence of audists
in control and the resulting further
lingual (SEE, C.A.S.E. etc) contamination of the products of this
system, I have to say the language
model for the Deaf child in a mainstream program should be whoever is
the most demonstration ally
competent in ASL--whether hearing, Deaf, or Klingon. The ideal far too
often just isn't
available, the education system makes darn sure of that. So the focus
should be on correcting the Deaf education system that continues to
engage in lingual oppression of the Deaf.

--
Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others.
, ,
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Word Dan. Also, if this BA/BS thing is a requirement for certification can we not assume (ooh dangerous) that people going for their certification have some ...
terperto
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Oct 17, 2002
4:11 am

... I am Deaf. Given a choice, I'd prefer a Deaf "native-ASL'er" as a Deaf child's language model any day. Give the cold-blooded fact that more and more "Deaf...
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Oct 17, 2002
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Kudos James! Having been in the trenches and fought with the other Deaf Educators with their choice of sign-styles, I know exactly of what you speak! I'm in...
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Oct 18, 2002
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Dear Dan: Please refer to my tirade on EXIT EXAMS in ITP programs :-) Tammy Tammera J. Fischer, CI & CT; NAD IV Certified Sign Language Interpreter (503)...
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Oct 18, 2002
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... I missed the tirade in question, but in my ITP (BA, Maryville College) we had comprehensive exams and a senior thesis requirement to graduate... what kind...
Nancy A. Lassiter
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Oct 18, 2002
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... Please refer to my response on how little THOSE prove. :-) -Dan....
Dan Parvaz
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Oct 18, 2002
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... I personally thought ours was pretty rigorous at MC, but there are always folks who disagree...it was set up to model the RID test just like Tammy said...
Nancy A. Lassiter
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Oct 18, 2002
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Yes, in order to graduate from my A.A.S. program - actually, in order to be placed into an internship with an actual Deaf consumer, our program required us to...
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Oct 18, 2002
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Sadly, the laws regarding community college education here in Iowa totally prohibit any sort of exam that weeds people out--you gotta accept everyone who...
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Oct 18, 2002
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Dan (and others, since much of this is not just to you :-) ): Put on your helmets and Kevlar folks....... With all due respect, I think having an exit exam is...
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Oct 18, 2002
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The more viable education options we can get, the better...especially those geared DIRECTLY at improving our interpreting work products. I will sign up for ...
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Oct 18, 2002
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... Then why is there a culture -- including in Oregon -- than one has to "work one's" way up to taking the RID? Simply walking out of a program and taking a...
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Oct 18, 2002
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I'm already wearing my asbestos undies... ... Let me tell the list about my internship... Maryville College requires 400 hours of internship, and I want to say...
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Oct 18, 2002
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Good points, Tammy. I'm one of those interpreters without a degree. I see the value of being educated. That is why I take a class every semester whether it...
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Oct 18, 2002
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I think this is well stated, James...I get every educational morsel I can find, as well, and think education is important. A degree is only as valuable as the...
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Oct 18, 2002
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thank you, Cherie for being the first person to acknowledge that an A.A.S. degree IS a valid degree - sometimes it is awarded to competent people, and...
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Oct 18, 2002
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... "work one's" way up to taking the RID? Simply walking out of a program and taking a test is occasionally looked upon as arrogant ("Who do you think *you*...
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Oct 18, 2002
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... Is it presumptuous to expect an ITP grad to pass an evaluation at a C- level? That's my point, Tammy: you can't have it both ways. If folks are graduating...
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Oct 18, 2002
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I don't think anyone on the list is dismissing A.A.programs. They are saying standards should be higher to "hopefully" infuse better quality in interpreters....
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Oct 18, 2002
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Open door policy is what they call it. BUT do not surrender yet. check with your own and other departments to see what they are doing in terms of controlling...
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Oct 18, 2002
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This posting is an example of what I am talking about - "A.A. Programs" versus "degree programs." An A.A.S. program IS a DEGREE program. An Associate of...
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Oct 19, 2002
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... Ok if you insist. Many programs I see refer to the A.A. as a certificate. But that i not the issue, the issue is increasing interpreter education, ...
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Oct 19, 2002
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It's also confusing when schools with AA programs (60ish credits) also offer a certificate option (20-something credits). Only one BA program that I know of...
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Oct 19, 2002
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Another alternative is to go back to what RID had before - IC/TC (lowest) CSC (middle) and MCSC (higher still). Too many people think that CI/CT is the be all...
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Oct 19, 2002
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Nice, certified terps doing all that they can are "yahoos". Great, to know we're all out there supporting each other. Always nice to see people pumping...
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Oct 19, 2002
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Alrighty guys...two words of advice: Chill Out! I don't think Denise's point was to put down recently certified interpreters, although I do question the...
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Oct 19, 2002
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Dear James: I have been a member of RID for 12 years. Never ONCE have I been given a chance to vote on the passage rate for the RID evaluations. So blaming...
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Oct 21, 2002
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Dear Chris: You have said what I have been trying to say for weeks. I will now be done. Tammy ... Tammera J. Fischer, CI & CT; NAD IV Certified Sign Language...
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Oct 21, 2002
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... Didn't say it was. ... That's been the core of my posts thusfar. ... That's good. Don't think anyone said it was bad. ... That's true for everybody these...
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