Orders are now put in for duplication. Doc will be busy. The first unit had
leakage problems where gas was escaping from the negative and positive electrode
insertion points that go through the top lid of the vessel. This being cured the
pressure now exerts itself through the bubbler as would be expected. I am well
satisfied with the results after numerous disappointments. Modifications of the
cell design for automotive 12 volts may be necessary. Ten of these units are
scheduled for completion.
Sincerely Harvey D Norris

hello

i need to ask has anyone here experimented with tesla coil inside a pyramid
exept Hardy experiment back in 1980th?

thank you
much appritiated

--- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Harvey D Norris" <harvich@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Harvey D Norris" <harvich@> wrote:
> >
> > This is another version discovered by my old neighbor John Pennell that
instantly dumbfounded me.
He stopped by today; we played this game again.

>>We began to play the game I invented which uses chess knights movements
starting from  two opposite corners of the board with different colored numbered
checkers in order of 1-64 in sequence to be placed throughout the board as the
chess knight sequence is completed.
> Each time the opponent places a number on the board he owns that space, so
when the opponent reaches that space he pays a chip for landing there second
instead of first. So this game is all about a pattern that makes for making your
claims on unexplored territory.
> If you could get ahead of your opponents moves you could move there every time
before he moves there, if you knew how he would move.
> Of course to make the game have some intrigue or skill only so many payment
chips could be given, say for example half of all the available movements or 32.
It seems obvious that if each opponent has a solution to the maze, one might be
better then the other as shown by this game of competition. I am thinking in my
mind who will win, and how it can be shown as a proof. In a single instant I see
this thing and how it can be prooved. It all has to do with how the territory is
mapped out.
>
> Now we compare to random mappings of the territory as claims of first landings
with sequences that never complete 1-64, because the sequence traps itself by
past movements and suffers an early demise of history compared to perfection of
movements. For the intriguing mind this presents a question of whether those
movements themselves can land on a majority of first steps before one of two
known perfected movements? This is another sort of concentration exercize.
>
> Concentration in succession IS meditation.
> HDN
Yeah I get confused about the arrows that appear in replys and what to do with
them so the customer knows where my reply is at. It seems to be that mistakes
can be made from the beginning to the end, but in the pattern there are certain
points where these mistakes are crucial turning points. How far back the
CRUCIALITY of these turning points in fact can be was possibly found today in a
knights jousting match between myself, knowing the code of seven and nine
squares, and the intermediate code of 33 to return to the quadrant of origin in
four layers; and even with all this knowledge the knight should know that false
pathways exist to mislead one by the code into an error that will happen in the
future of ones moves, that will also lead to an early demise whereby all the
future moves cannot be made because of our own trappings made by incorrect past
movements. As such the discovery becomes isolating those wrong movements in the
past and correcting them. Even FURTHER in the consideration is
to find the FIRST wrong turn that can be made that eliminates the possibility of
negotiating the labyrinth. For the Five Wind Pattern its author stopped by
today, and we did battle. Each of us knew patterns of completion and each made
mistakes on the pattern. I could in fact later see the mistake in his pattern,
but I dont quite yet understand mine.  It may have occurred in the beginning.
HDN

Since the capacity of 70 nf was increased to 75 nf, the old perfect inductive
tuning made at 70 nf now should no longer should be present. This was  verified
and was the only work made today made on the project were the new reactances
were compared in quantities, and found that the inductance is now
correspondingly 5-6 % too high. The inductive change to be made with these
columns of coils to make this new adjustment will be shown in the next you tube.
HDN

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Peter Baitz <ussenterprisencc1701@...> wrote:
(TCML is not lately receiving my responces, will run this one through for
approval)
> From: Peter Baitz <ussenterprisencc1701@...>
> Subject: [TCML] Bifilar coils
> To: tesla@...
> Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 7:03 PM
> Hi all,
>
> Questions about use of bifilar coils.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil
>
> I know this is used sometimes as a primary, but has anyone
> used it as a secondary?
My largest 6 in diameter secondary was constructed with an extra winding around
the first one when I had decided to do this at the end of a 70 lb 23 gauge 
Essex wire spool rewinding. At the time I had such a use for multiwound
solenoidal  layered secondaries which was used for the purpose at hand, but the
project proved too costly and not justified by other tests on the same idea on a
smaller scale. Such a secondary is probably useless as a TC secondary because of
the internal capacity bet ween winding layers. However such tests could still be
made by finding the secondary resonant frequency and primary LC matching it by
signal generator means. This is one of my winter garage projects.

Concerning Wikipedia I understand that they are open to correcting their
definitions. I learned this from another person who had pointed out that some of
their definitions of 3 dimensional magic squares were inaccurate, and he made
suggestions for corrections to them. I will have to correspond to him again to
find if his redefinitions  as a refinement were incorporated in Wiki's
definition. Here's what Wiki says about Tesla's role in this definition with my
comments in [].

History

An early example of the bifilar coil can be seen in Nikola Tesla's United States
patent 512,340 of 1894. Tesla explains that in some applications (which he does
not specify)[Coil for Electromagnets] the self-inductance of a conventional coil
is undesired and has to be neutralised by adding external capacitors.
[This is a very vague statement to say the least. Generally it is the "internal
or self capacitance" of a coil that is undesired and not as here described as
the self inductance. The relationship between internal capacity of a coil to the
external capacity to be added to this coil in a resonant combination of course
has a very prominent reduction in q factor. The % of this reduction in resonance
can in fact be measured, I have directly measured many of the reductions myself
and have the intention of posting a you-tube on the subject which is quite
remarkable. Here I take a tesla primary cap value of 75 nf, and balance this
with an equal inductive reactance value at 60 hz, which is a huge air core
inductance. The ideal and actual q factors are compared, where it is then
assumed that the also very large internal capacities of the inductors being
employed are responsible for the reduction of the predicted resonance q factor.
     An explanation for an old puzzle also seems present here, where when
formerly presented did not seem to have a plausible conclusion, so representing
the puzzle it goes something like this. Take a capacity and charge it up. Then
add an equal capacity in parallel and discharge the voltage on the capacity so
that it is now distributed across each capacity, reducing that voltage in two. C
also changes becoming double. The energy storage term .5CV^2 then has both C and
V increasing  and decreasing in opposite magnitudes, but only the V side is
exponential. This means that half the energy vanished when the capacitor shared
its charge, so where did this go to? Ancient Chinese Secret? Take 64 or 8
squared  equally long  metallic segments and divide them into two, 32 segments
to a side, and make a 2 dimensional plate capacity. Now use 6 squared or 36
segments and arrange them geometrically so that the same capacity determined by
width of segments is done.
This is accomplished by making a single long length of segments and winding them
in a fashion so that when the center point is broken, the winding pattern
enables more then one side of the four sided conductor to be used for the
internal capacity. Now this same capacity now contains an "internal inductance".
Suppose we connect that coil at its midpoint with the external capacity which is
the same value as its internal capacity. The predicted ideal Q factor to be made
in series resonant voltage rise is already cut in half because the external
capacity equals the inner. And the explanation for the dimunition of stored 
energy in this capacitive sharing begins to make more sense, it went into the
magnetic field around the delivery wires.
The bifilar coil in this configuration has increased self-capacitance, thereby
saving the cost of the capacitors.
[This scheme has never been sensibly employed. Many commentators have noted the
differences in technology between our time and Tesla's and noted that this
possibility never came into practical application.)


It is notable that this is not the kind of bifilar winding used in non-inductive
wirewound resistors where the windings are wired anti-series to null out
self-inductance.
[The purpose of internal capacity is to reduce the inductors natural resonant
frequency. In accordance with this when an external capacity is added to that
inductor, the balance of missing storage energy between two capacities in
parallel is compensated for by the energy manifested in the magnetic field
inherent in the conversion. This is only presented as a plausible theory made
with analogies. Even a twisted turning capacitive pathway arranged in loops has
inductance. A true nulling out of inductance by opposite directions of adjacent
windings is impossible, and when this is applied in cases of fewer winds, the
reduction of inductance can be shown to be much less then expected. Measuring
the  relative inductance of adjacent winds of large internal capacity Radio
Shack MegaCable Spiral speaker wire flat braided windings by LCR meter will show
this fact. Simply short one set and measure the inductance of the other 
adjacent set in both combinations of
mutual inductance. The adjacent spirals have almost perfect mutual inductance as
will be seen by the inductance readings themselves.]
Sincerely HDN

(3rd Reply on this subject showing corrections)
--- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Harvey D Norris" <harvich@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Harvey D Norris" <harvich@> wrote:
> >
> > The following example will be shown in the video. Two identical L values and
two identical C values are placed in series with an amperage meter in the center
for each branch, and tuned thereby to have identical reactances. Now all four
amperage meter ends are disconnected and each reactive branch paired with its
opposite reactance so as to make conduction. The circuit will now be mistuned.
It should be easy to guess the remedy for this.
> > HDN
> Guess not indeed...!!!
> It is difficult to present things when the answers come out contrary to how
you think those answers should come out. This then means a different gameplan of
demonstration. The meters are set up for demo, but my conclusions were wrong. I
suppose I should just show the  results but I have to support my former
conclusions in context with why I supposed such an action to take place in the
first place.
>
> One must be patient and follow the arguments before the evidence itself can be
understood. As such a somewhat long conclusion is reached from the
experimentation, which again did not support my suppositions as they are called.
Here specifically however I will return to this example and show the results,
but neither this nor its opposite reaches the desired conclusions.
> Sincerely HDN
I will now explain the conundrum that developed here that should now  be
corrected. Two issues can be brought forward, never trust a nameplate capacity
value and make sure the parameters of the resonance are actually being observed
where this can always usually be obtained by making individual reactance
measurements of each side of conduction. Now this first step was fulfilled, we
can show a circuit of cancelling reactance currents that are equivalent to each
other to a half of a percent or more or less. This then can show the "acting" q
factor of the circuit by the ratio of the reactive currents in the loop to that
of the input current, where this shows 5-6 times greater current in the loop
then is being imputed. Next we split the parallel resonance into two inversely
phased series resonances by giving each central amp meter a new routing where
the meters formerly being between identical reactances will now be between
opposite reactances, which by definition is making a change of circuit from tank
condition to a pairing of series resonances that also must be mirror image or
inverse to each other; which also means or at least should mean that two things
will change. The first thing that changes is the direction of one coils magnetic
field with respect to the other ones. Since the C values themselves were
obtained from a value determined by that magnetic field interaction, and the new
magnetic interaction is opposite to the former one used as the basis for the
circuits tuning, this combination of making the series resonant pairings made
inversely must be wrong, and thus I have called it a "mis-tuned" resonance.
Obviously to correct this we need merely reverse the connections to one of the
coils that ensures that its magnetic field in time is also reversed. Now in each
of these examples we can put voltage meters on the caps and another third
voltage meter between them. This gives an indication of how far out of phase
each series resonant voltage rise is to the other, and that middle voltage meter
can only be the sum of the outside voltages in the situation where those outside
voltages are completely 180 degrees out of phase with each other. And one other
tank circuit test is available which is adding the reactance paths together on a
common line from opposite directions. If each reactance then is close to being
180 out of phase with the other then the sum of those reactance currents to
unity should occur, or simply a doubling of the outside reactive currents along
the pathway they share in common. This is the essential point I wished to show
in the video. Now if one takes arrows and follows the reactive pathways from
identical potentials to their opposite potential points one finds a figure 8,
with the middle lateral segment being the one shared by both the inductive and
capacitive pathways. Now the arrows showing each current pathway are in opposite
directions on this segment, but what normally  should be cancellation becomes
unity because the currents themselves are 180 out of phase in time with each
other. The importance of showing this is it opens the door to designing a tesla
primary in the same way. The simple advantage is this, the normal tesla primary
is current limited by the capacity in series with it, and as such the currents
on the primary and capacity are equal. It would seem obvious that the currents
on the primary are responsible for the secondary high voltage currents. What the
binary resonant circuit possibility shows is that it is possible to double the
currents on that primary with respect to its current limiting capacity in series
with it; and this is done by charging two capacities oppositely in parallel and
discharging them at twice their charging voltage across the primar(ies)
themselves constructed with a midpoint arc gap. This circuit is actually a
capacitor voltage doubling system or Marx Gap. Such a scenario demands many
changes of operation, including the fact that four times more capacity is being
charged by the source prior to arc gap ignition, and during the arc gap
connection the capacitive reactance being charged is four times less. Leaving
these TC issues behind here, I quickly found out that practically NONE of these
effects were being shown in my coil demo. I was only obtaining about a 25%
increase of reactive currents in unison, and the voltage comparison readings in
series resonance were delivering poor results, so bad that of these two
combinations, the combination of resonances in the mistuned state was delivering
a better relative voltage rise between the phases then what the correction
delivered! I was shaking my head, thinking what is going on now, and how can
this be, it is simply in direct contradiction to all of my theories on the
subject!
       To make a long story short here is how all these errors occurred. I wanted
to use just my few high voltage capacitors that are commonly used in tesla coil
work and I rounded up six .1 uf caps. I also had to arrange them in combination
so that their reactance equals that of the coil system. This was done by putting
two in series, and having each of them in parallel with two more. All six high
voltage caps of supposedly equal value had done the job of supplying this equal
reactance. The trouble is though, when I split the value in half, this was not a
true split, which also meant that the resonances derived from this split were
themselves off tuned. This was seen as soon as voltage meters were placed across
each side  in the measuring of the capacitive reactance, more voltage was
present on one side then the other. A LCR meter check showed that one side was
correct at .151 uf, but that the other side was low by almost 20 nf. After
rounding up 12 high voltage capacitors of .25 uf and placing these in series and
adding that capacity to the low side, this corrected the mis-balance. After
making all new measurements everything seems to closely jive with theory. As
such I am probably ready to make a you tube in a day or two.
Sincerely HDN

--- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Harvey D Norris" <harvich@...> wrote:
>
> The following example will be shown in the video. Two identical L values and
two identical C values are placed in series with an amperage meter in the center
for each branch, and tuned thereby to have identical reactances. Now all four
amperage meter ends are disconnected and each reactive branch paired with its
opposite reactance so as to make conduction. The circuit will now be mistuned.
It should be easy to guess the remedy for this.
> HDN
(2nd Reply)
For those having no inkling of what I am talking about, let me clarify the
matter. Two equal and opposite reactances are initially placed in series on two
parallel branches, where amperage meters on each branch show equal reactive
amperage consumptions, and those amperage meters are placed in the middle of
each circuit. This is of no importance for the C series side of the circuit, but
it is of crucial importance for the L series side of the circuit, because those
two coils can have mutual inductance. when we make the first measurement both
the C values and the L values are in series, but the L values in series are also
each altered by their mutual inductance with each other. The windings arranged
to be in series in magnetic agreement give a higher inductance. These reactive
values are fine tuned to be in exact agreement with C values by moving two
stacks of L coils close enough together adjacently so that the reactance of each
coil side is displaced by mutual inductance to meet the C value requirement for
resonance.

Now by taking the two center wires of each conduction path and switching them to
the opposite reactance coil pathway made from the center, this now makes the
individual coils magnetic fields to be made in opposition, where formerly in
series they were in magnetic agreement which supplies the higher inductance,
which supplied the exact C value of opposite reactance when the coils were in
series. The reason the magnetic interaction changed was because two mechanisms
are responsible for polarity in series resonance, but only one of these are
present in parallel resonance. The common sense has been in front of us the
whole time, but we did not know how to voice it, because it seems so mystical.
We can divide one, but not the either. We can create the opposite of a series
resonance, which is its inverse, but we cannot create the opposite of its
counterpart tank circuit. We started out here showing the example of a tank
circuit; and by changing the connections of the center wires converted this to
its series resonant counterpart, but that counterpart actually has two faces and
not one.

Can you reverse the input connections to a tank circuit and expect its magnetic
polarity in time to be reversed... No.

Can you reverse the connections to a series resonance and expect its magnetic
polarity in time to be reversed... Yes.

As time went on I understood that each field from each process is 180 degrees
out of phase, BUT only one side can be changed in polarity interaction with the
other opposite, which is the series resonant side that can be altered. This
means that we can change the wire direction of input on that side of the
equation and it will then alter the actions incurred when we change the circuit
from a condition of parallel resonance to that of two mutually interacting
series resonances, where here by this reconnection of conduction paths from
parallel to series resonances, because the double negative is not yet applied by
the reversal of input wires on one set of coils, the fields that were formerly
in magnetic agreement in parallel resonance, have now become in magnetic
opposition by virtue of the simple fact that hey have been converted in the
pairing to sets inversely each producing fields in opposition, but a remedy is
present on the second case by reversal of input wires. However for the cited
case this "REMEDY" is not yet applied, in which case this is an example of a
"mis-tuned" resonance. We then simply have to reverse the wires to show the
reaction supposedly incurred in the corrected mimicing pattern as one would
suppose by resonance.

Holmes the game is afoot, and that damned hound haunts me. The data doesnt
always support the observation.
HDN

--- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Harvey D Norris" <harvich@...> wrote:
>
> The following example will be shown in the video. Two identical L values and
two identical C values are placed in series with an amperage meter in the center
for each branch, and tuned thereby to have identical reactances. Now all four
amperage meter ends are disconnected and each reactive branch paired with its
opposite reactance so as to make conduction. The circuit will now be mistuned.
It should be easy to guess the remedy for this.
> HDN
Guess not indeed...!!!
It is difficult to present things when the answers come out contrary to how you
think those answers should come out. This then means a different gameplan of
demonstration. The meters are set up for demo, but my conclusions were wrong. I
suppose I should just show the  results but I have to support my former
conclusions in context with why I supposed such an action to take place in the
first place.

One must be patient and follow the arguments before the evidence itself can be
understood. As such a somewhat long conclusion is reached from the
experimentation, which again did not support my suppositions as they are called.
Here specifically however I will return to this example and show the results,
but neither this nor its opposite reaches the desired conclusions.
Sincerely HDN

--- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Harvey D Norris" <harvich@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Harvey D Norris" <harvich@> wrote:
> >
> > This is another version discovered by my old neighbor John Pennell that
instantly dumbfounded me. We began to play the game I invented which uses chess
knights movements starting from  two opposite corners of the board with
different colored numbered checkers in order of 1-64 in sequence to be placed
throughout the board as the chess knight sequence is completed.
> Each time the opponent places a number on the board he owns that space, so
when the opponent reaches that space he pays a chip for landing there second
instead of first. So this game is all about a pattern that makes for making your
claims on unexplored territory.
> If you could get ahead of your opponents moves you could move there every time
before he moves there, if you knew how he would move.
> Of course to make the game have some intrigue or skill only so many payment
chips could be given, say for example half of all the available movements or 32.
It seems obvious that if each opponent has a solution to the maze, one might be
better then the other as shown by this game of competition. I am thinking in my
mind who will win, and how it can be shown as a proof. In a single instant I see
this thing and how it can be prooved. It all has to do with how the territory is
mapped out.
>
> Now we compare to random mappings of the territory as claims of first landings
with sequences that never complete 1-64, because the sequence traps itself by
past movements and suffers an early demise of history compared to perfection of
movements. For the intriguing mind this presents a question of whether those
movements themselves can land on a majority of first steps before one of two
known perfected movements? This is another sort of concentration exercize.
>
> Concentration in succession IS meditation.
> HDN
>
As I recall these layers are made in succession of layers of twelve. However an
intercession needs to take place to make room for the outer layers of (complete)
ring travel. In this regard the knight makes his first outer ring of travel in
twelve moves whereupon he first comes into contact with the area of his origin.
Thirteen has a special significance here, but the rememberance chart is not
before me to know the exact positions of transfer. However such a photographic
memory is not necessary to ascertain the positions to be derived by these first
twelve movements on the outer ring that can be made by the knight on his errand
of completion. The position of move 13 is actually two things by memory without
seeing position, it is the completion of one loop and the start of the next.
Likewise in a year 13 rotations of the moon occur around the earth, which means
that in the calendar year divided into 12 months, I would suppose not being an
expert that when  two full moons occur in one month this is called a "blue moon"
' hence the saying "once in a blue moon".

It amazes me that in the mere recalling of this, it leads to other matters... I
asked Doc, why are people so stupid to divide a year into twelve parts,( even
the zodiac) when the American Indians already knew that there were 13 moons in a
year. Doc is very active in Indian matters, being a full fledged Cherokee from
Tennesee, who can speak for himself on the matter. And I am certainly no
astronomer, but I would take it for granted that the above argument holds true.
But I see a flaw. If it were exactly true that there are 13 moons in a complete
year, this also means that there are 26 moons in two years. This would mean that
a blue moon occurred every year, but I thought it was rarer then that; maybe
about every two years. Bear in mind that this is a discussion list and anyone
can just jump in and give us all the needed knowledge which is lacking here. But
suppose relatively the earth observer sees thirteen revolutions of the moon
around the earth in a cycle of a year as might be supposed, but what about the
complete revolution the earth made around the sun during this observation
period? Shouldn't that one rotation be added in the total observance? Couldn't
this also mean that the moon actually only "relatively" rotates around the earth
twelve times during a year, but because of our own relative rotation this
appears to us as 13 rotations? Or is that correct either? Is 12 1/2 more
correct? Then we would have a blue moon every two years.
      In any case after the knight has completed his first outer ring of travel
on the twin pathway of movements established by the freedom of his movement
pattern on the two squares of outer periphery of the array, as usual the second
wind follows the first pattern wise as neighbors until the third junction is
reached, being the second returning to the area of origin. It is here where the
pattern leaves the outer periphery for the first movement to the center ring as
the square of five, or 25.  This is the first incursion into the inner ring
which occurs upon its corner. Now the twelve wind progression continues along
the outside perimeter until again it completes the next wind and re-enters the
inside ring as the completion of its wind. Then once again for the last time it
makes its fourth wind of movement around all the missing spots left for its
periphery movements and then it re-enters the inner ring for the last time. The
next wind; the fifth one is all internal.
    The fifth wind possibility of completion is made possible by the outer
movements of the knight moving around the circle and stepping inside the circle
at the precise point in time of progression where that space will be needed in
the future for its next layer of progression. As such the first two layers are
described and the first inner ring point noted. If the other two inner ring
contact points were shown the solution should easily be reached concerning the
internal fifth wind. However in the journey of the knight around the outer
perimeter he can jump into the inner ring at ANY point in his journey,and then
jump back to the outer ring of travel around the circle. If these inner jumps in
and out are not made correctly then the succession of the journey is cut short.
HDN

I'm trying to think of an example of what people say when things piss them off,
and even perhaps improve my vocabulary at the same time. Nevertheless things you
leave behind years ago return, and I have also stumbled upon my word book from
the past to help educate me better in elucidations. A ha! the book has supplied
the word I was looking for after I just now snatched it off the bookshelf from
over 25 years before I have opened it again.

Antecendent... Now I remember. The antecedent for this action is when my factory
burned down in the 60's. This place was a real hell hole on earth. As such not
too many people would work there. But I didn't get to join the ranks until the
early 70's as my first factory job. Back then maybe a third of employees were
from West Virginia, some from coal mines shut down ect... As such the conditions
of this employment were also very dirty, easily comparable to steel mills. My
own paternal grandfather, Harvey O. Norris was from West Virginia and came to
Akron, Ohio to work in the "rubber capitol of the world" as did many others from
the state. So like my grandfather I took a position in the rubber processing
industry. But before I got to work in my factory it burnt down in a glorious
ceremony with exploding 55 gallon drums going through the roof. This was known
as Aztec Rubber, which after the fire got bought out by Burton Rubber, still in
business today by all reckoned accounts. Our division North of Akron, Ohio
became Burton Plastics in Macedonia Ohio, where I started out in the lab in ~
1973. Being of early employment age and having oats to sow, and generally being
entirely ignorant of the responsibilities involved in obtaining a successful
lifetime, I quickly shrugged these responsibilities, and quit my position after
only 9 months. I had a disagreement with management in that I wanted out of the
lab and wanted to be one of the "regular" factory workers that undergo massive
punishment, which is true.
     When I quit my first job, which was actually my second as I formerly worked
for my father, God Bless his departed soul who has made all these things
possible for me, but Dad was also involved in what might be called insiduous
actions with nefarious characters that probably interface with sheriff traficant
as he was known at that time. Here I am only talking about a leak somewhere that
has now occured, and I am supplying an antecedent to this action. I can tell
stories later about what happened in my youth after I quit the factory and then
later rejoined for 17 years as I recall. But here after the factory burned down
and I first began employment there after reconstruction, I used to hear the
stories about when the fire first happened. To make a long story short the fire
spread from stage to stage on a conveyer belt, and the plant manager named
Marcel came running out with a garden hose to try and stop this great fire. A
hillbilly named Jim Kincaid from W. Virg. who I worked next to for years told me
this story. Hell he said, it seemed like I could piss faster then that damned
garden hose could put out that fire. It happened so quickly that people couldn't
get back into the locker room to get their car keys or other belongings. Next
thing you knew 55 gallon drums were exploding though the roof!
     The DC opposite polarity electrodes that enter the top of the supposedly
sealed electrolysis vessel have such a great leakage that only an inch or so of
produced gas is forced through the bubbler under the water level which requires
4 inches of displacement flow to begin functioning with this incorporated safety
measure. Now I myself have the most peculiar medical problem of perhaps not all
time, but Doc thinks it is due to medical malpractice while I was unconscious
from head injuries. Apparently an improper cathetor insertion into my penis...
(Good Lord why would they do that!!!) has resulted in an internal bladder leak
so that when I piss air comes out afterward.Not all the time) ( So here I might
be able to say that more air comes out of my dick then this model...) But I do
remember about these things. I had a second very severe concussion after the
first one(many) several years later, which I protested the hospital authorities
in such a severe manner that they had to strap me down after the nurse pissed me
off. I had to memorize my name just to escape with a memory test.
      I have protested to Doc to fix these seals, and he says it can be done.

Sincerely HDN

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Steve has been working with physical devices pertaining to his technology
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his teacher, who told him to build something and patent it.

While living in Normangee, Texas, Steve was owner/operator of a small
business for 7 years. He has worked in various fields of engineering for 23
years.

Steve was issued United States Patent #7531930 on May 12, 2009 for his
Magnetic Converter. He demonstrated his AMAZING technology at the Energy
Systems Laboratory in Bryan, Texas, Texas Engineering Experiment Station
(TEES) and at the Third Annual Houston Inventors/UHSBDC Inventors Tradeshow.

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> Subject: Power your home for
> $200
>
>
>     Here's a
> great new project.
> Powering our homes for only
> $200 investment.
> We've ordered the
> kit.
> :-)
> Janet
> Lee
>  
> http://www.power4home.com/index.php?hop=roeib
Virginia, I work in this field, and have purchased the above E book. I don't
think that you will find one satisfied customer, and in actuality it is a scam.
Take for example the section on windmills: if one followed the instructions one
would obtain no electrical output. Here power4home is advertising something that
doesn't work, I call that a scam. I will explain how it CAN work. But here since
I have said that it does not work, I will explain why, and then in turn show
something that DOES work and then even show why every patriot should be
supporting its development which I myself am involved with and can help others
to support in the Ohio area.
     I myself am interested in windmill possibilities, but I see far greater
possibilities using the same generator needed for a windmill, that can be
applied to an automobile. As such I will soon purchase one. First and foremost
however let me indicate that the power4home scamster must not know the
difference between an alternator and a bonafide generator. A generator employs
actual rotating magnets to produce electricity. These went out of existance on
automobiles in the 30's and were replaced by alternators, which instead employs
a rotating electromagnet. For automobiles this was ideal because it meant
electrical power could be generated on demand by the regulated amount of
amperage sent into the rotating electromagnet, known as the field. But because
the electromagnet needs power to be energized, it isnt nearly as efficient as
the generator, but for the automobile the electrical efficiency is unimportant
because only a very small amount of energy
  is
  taken away from the engine to create this demand from on board electrical
loads. If a generator is used instead, when that maximum electrical demand is
not asked for, the generator still supplies it and then essentially this is also
wasted energy. What the power4home folks show is how to mount an automotive
alternator to a windmill. No matter that nothing is going to come out of thing
electrically. They make no provisions for sending any electrical energy into the
field, where those empty field connections are plainly shown in the photos. To
do this correctly to actually produce electricity from a windmill one needs
instead to purchase a much more expensive "permanent magnet generator" which is
in the 500 dollar range. These devices are explicity made for use with
windmills. You cannot take a car alternator, or even a AC motor run backwards,
and mount it on a windmill and get power as these people imply. You have use the
right tool for the right job. If
  in fact one got the alternator to work, it would be like robbing Peter to pay
Paul, because some of the output energy made by the windmill must be used to
energize the field, meaning the consumer then only gets the difference between
these quantities.
     Now I will get to my business which is the promotion of hydroxy
boosters, which I am in the business of manufacturing these in Portage Co. Ohio.
The hydroxy booster extracts oxygen and hydrogen gasses from distilled water in
a stainless steel container installed in the vehicle. The unit uses a little of
the vehicles excess energy (in the form of electricity from the alternator,
which isn't actually excess energy) to produce just the right amount of hydrogen
catalyst to blend with the existing fuel source, enhancing the combustion of
fuel. The benefit of hydroxy injection is that because hydroxy has a higher
flash point then petrol its self igniting temperature is around 550 degrees
Celsius. Petrol ignites from 280 degrees onward, depending on the grade of fuel.
This causes a complete burn of all the fuel in the combustion chamber. So
therefore there is minimal pollution out of the exhaust. [And logically an
increased efficiency of power output,
  translating to more miles/gal] (Luckily in this case I am in a Ohio County that
requires emmission testing so these claims can be verified when our first
prototype is installed in a vehicle. There are stories of people having hydroxy
units that produced emmission standards so low that the testing unit indicates
malfunction. Incredibly Bob Boyce at least (who has more or less pioneered the
hydroxy engine concept) says that they asked him to disconnect the unit so that
they could obtain a test result that falls within the parameters of their test
equipment. This can become a protest issue, say for example they wish to do that
for my case, if I refuse to take the test under their conditions, this can
become an issue of great publicity)
     It has been known for some time (since a 1974 paper by the Jet
Propulsion Lab of the California Institute of Technology) that the addition of
hydrogen in fossil fuels, burned in internal combustion engines will increase
the efficiency of that engine. This study has been validated by a number of
papers published by the Society of Automotive Engineers, (SAE). The hydroxy
boost process is effective with any fossil fuel
(diesel, gasoline, propane, natural gas) or bio-fuel (ethanol) though it is most
effective in diesel engines. The presence of hydrogen alters the initial stages
of the unfolding combustion dynamic, altering the kinetic chemical pathway which
the combustion follows.  The net effect is to alter the time at which heat
energy is released relative to the power cycle.  The end result is to increase
the adiabatic efficiency of the engine, which in turn means decreased fuel
consumption, decreased emissions, improved horsepower and torque, and decreased
maintenance expenditures. (From Panacea Inst.)
http://www.panaceuniversity.org/Hydroxy%20Boosters.pdf
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For the 600? teslafy yahoo group members The above reply is sent to Virginia
Brooks, a local patriot that has an email list that is a good perusal of those
issues. Lets see if she reprints my reply. In any case here she leaves off with
an American Free Press interview with James Trafficant which is well worth the
somewhat long read that goes into his past events. I'm surprised she did'nt
mention his actual name in this letter, as I might have glossed over it as
unread, because she posts many things.
Anywho, I dont understand what all those different URLs are, but the one I see
is...
http://www.americanfreepress.net/
I will check the reply for URL validity
Sincerely HDN
Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/

--- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Harvey D Norris" <harvich@...> wrote:
>
> This is another version discovered by my old neighbor John Pennell that
instantly dumbfounded me. We began to play the game I invented which uses chess
knights movements starting from  two opposite corners of the board with
different colored numbered checkers in order of 1-64 in sequence to be placed
throughout the board as the chess knight sequence is completed.
Each time the opponent places a number on the board he owns that space, so when
the opponent reaches that space he pays a chip for landing there second instead
of first. So this game is all about a pattern that makes for making your claims
on unexplored territory.
If you could get ahead of your opponents moves you could move there every time
before he moves there, if you knew how he would move.
Of course to make the game have some intrigue or skill only so many payment
chips could be given, say for example half of all the available movements or 32.
It seems obvious that if each opponent has a solution to the maze, one might be
better then the other as shown by this game of competition. I am thinking in my
mind who will win, and how it can be shown as a proof. In a single instant I see
this thing and how it can be prooved. It all has to do with how the territory is
mapped out.

Now we compare to random mappings of the territory as claims of first landings
with sequences that never complete 1-64, because the sequence traps itself by
past movements and suffers an early demise of history compared to perfection of
movements. For the intriguing mind this presents a question of whether those
movements themselves can land on a majority of first steps before one of two
known perfected movements? This is another sort of concentration exercize.

Concentration in succession IS meditation.
HDN

This is another version discovered by my old neighbor John Pennell that
instantly dumbfounded me. We began to play the game I invented which uses chess
knights movements starting from  two opposite corners of the board with
different colored numbered checkers in order of 1-64 in sequence to be placed
throughout the board as the chess knight sequence is completed.

What has amazed me for years is that the probability of reaching the end of this
1-64 pattern movement sequence at random is nill. It actually took me two long
incarcerations before I could repeat the sequence according to the imbedded code
found in my birthday. I had several propositions during the second stage of
incarceration but I enjoyed showing this one. A deck of cards was cut into four
quarters and numbered on the back. This upset other inmates who couldn't
understand why a good deck of cards was being mutilated. However now the shell
game begins; watch what I do and repeat it. The no.s on the cards 1-64 can be
placed on the CHESS board in that order and then removed backwards till the
board is again emptied. Can you repeat this sequence by memory?

There of course are many exceptional chess players in jail, and one black young
guy thought he could find a different pattern for the 1-64 sequence, but I
scoffed at this.

So now at least several years later I guess, I was playing the game again, where
I told my opponent that he couldnt possibly complete his journey, because only I
knew the code of movement to get there. It uses four winds. I was proven wrong
by his movements, where he used five winds.

What is a wind? A wind is the No. of movements made in the first or following
layers that initially comes in contact with a past movement in time. A four wind
division into 64 movements implies that 16 moves in isolation are made before
becoming adjacent to a former wind. Here then a different pattern will be shown
using five winds instead.

The obtaining of this will be left in clues until the end is found by the clues.
The entire first sequence of movements by the knight is made by using the outer
ring of two squares around the periphery. In this way the point of return origin
will first be reached. This should be the first winding by my memory of this new
pattern.
Sincerely HDN

It will now also become apparent as the second BRS system is later shown to
consider how the geometry of the coil system effects q factor. It becomes
apparent that three different geometries delivery three different cases for q
factors.
HDN

This will also be shown to be a paradox, and a probable solution for that
paradox. In the system to be demonstrated the "interphasal" currents according
to 180 phased reactive theory should show a doubling of interior currents vs the
outside currents on either side. This ratio does not hold mustard however, but
the probable reasons for this inprobable measurement will be advocated. If fact
here the stupidity of the shown approach of tuning will be considered, thereby
leading to replacement models of greater efficiency to be fashioned by
co-operation of each element in the pair.
Sincerely Harvey D Norris.

--- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Harvey D Norris" <harvich@...> wrote:
>
> The following example will be shown in the video. Two identical L values and
two identical C values are placed in series with an amperage meter in the center
for each branch, and tuned thereby to have identical reactances. Now all four
amperage meter ends are disconnected and each reactive branch paired with its
opposite reactance so as to make conduction. The circuit will now be mistuned.
It should be easy to guess the remedy for this.
> HDN
The circuit will only be mistuned upon reconnection if the two L values in
series have mutual inductance. This should give understanding of the correction
to be made. A double negative is necessary.

The following example will be shown in the video. Two identical L values and two
identical C values are placed in series with an amperage meter in the center for
each branch, and tuned thereby to have identical reactances. Now all four
amperage meter ends are disconnected and each reactive branch paired with its
opposite reactance so as to make conduction. The circuit will now be mistuned.
It should be easy to guess the remedy for this.
HDN

The wire resistance today measured under 2200 ohms.
X(C) measured at 70.2 nf which equals 36,860 ohms@ 60 hz.
X(L) measured to within half of a percent difference @ 60 hz.
36,840 X(L)/2200 R = 16.7 ideal Q factor.
Real Q factor as will be shown on you tube is 6.

This is only one third of what the book value gives.
HDN

This is one of two large coil systems tuned to 60 hz. This system was a
modification of coils formerly used in 465 hz alternator resonance experiments.
These again will be used for that purpose which entails dismantling of this coil
combination to be shown before dismantling. Metering of coils are arranged today
for a first you tube demo of the binary resonant system and concept. Later a
second you tube video can be made of the single pair system that has powered the
previous high voltage demos.
Sincerely HDN

--- In teslafy@yahoogroups.com, "Frankie" <frankie12_ohio_us@...> wrote:
>
> What does the 2009 Flux Capacitor Model do?
Many of the tests I did with this device were made last winter. Basically the
idea was to cross electric and magnetic fields at right angles in a water cell
so as to aid an electrolysis process. Tests showed no efficiency increase, but
investigation of the principles involved made the enquiry worth the merit to
pursue. Those two large coils used for that experimentation using alternator
freq of 465 hz were later set up for a 60 hz resonance demo, which I have yet to
do in this long schedule of things to be done. Here as some mumblings about the
principles posted to vortex...

I have tried over the years to construct various embodiments which have
presented a sort of Zen like riddle such as what is the sound of one hand
clapping? In electrical resonance energy in the form of electric and magnetic
fields oscillate between containers that hold this energy. For resonance to
manifest itself the container for the magnetic field is generally not
ferromagnetic but what is loosely termed "air core" which only implies the
abscence of ferromagnetic materials in the core volume of the coil. Likewise the
capacitor is a container that focuses the electric field component with a
certain volume of space. It is  the motor principle that as a consequence of
lorentz force a current bearing element allowing an electric field to transport
charges will be deflected at right angles to the right angle relationship made
by the electric and magnetic fields themselves
as the causitive forces.
I may be a little lost here and need correction, but if the reaction force is at
right angles to the causitive force, is not this reactionless?  But going on
here suppose that we wish to create some kind of reaction force BETWEEN those
electric and magnetic fields in resonance by allowing their (field) construction
in space to be identical and at right angles. This is a severe limitation of
possibilities, that right off the bat makes a 60 hz model totally unfeasible,
unless you have a military budget. But the proposition can be made at
frequencies near 500 hz using a large 70 lb induction coil, and a cylindrical
insulated water capacity that can fit inside the core volume of the coil. For a
single phase of resonance this proposition is apt to the Zen riddle of the sound
of one hand clapping. Here we are trying to secure a reaction between two forces
that themselves are the same movement of energy exchange between electric and
magnetic fields that
manifest themselves 90 degrees out of phase in time, so that when a full
electric field is available to make charge movement, the magnetic field needed
to make the reaction force has gone back to zero. Like the trig sin and cos
functions, each is the derivative of the other, meaning that the collapse and
re-emergence of an opposite polarity magnetic field across its zero point in
time corresponds to the peak of electric field storage, ect. What this
essentially means that every changing electric field has a corresponding
magnetic field 90 degrees out of phase in time. For the single phased spatial
field resonance example we can now find that the polarity of electric field
connections each produce two separate resonance points. There are actually three
possibilities that I found by actual experimentation. First the resonance pt of
the fields in isolation can be found. Upon insertion of the interior capacity
formerly in resonance into the core of the
resonating coil, the resonance ceases. In this circumstance the capacitor's
magnetic field will be either in agreement or disagreement with the magnetic
field of the exterior coil. The mutual inductance of the components changes the
X(L) value of the coil, which is the basis for how much capacity needs to be
used for the resonance pt.
      Now quickly we see the need for having two of these spatially interacting
resonances that are functioning out of phase or timing with each other, so that
we can make a further modification or juxtapositioning of this E X B field
interaction. We wish now to match each four containers of fields in the new
manner so that in time two full electric and magnetic fields interact, while the
other container set will have combinations of both oscillations reaching their
zero point. I had began this work last winter but did not complete the second
interaction set. Now that I am on you tube I will be able to show further things
as they evolve. I use an 465 hz  three phase car alternator that generates
10,000 volts? in two stages of resonant rise of voltage.
     Getting back to the theoretical possibilities here I see the need for
further modifications. Instead of a single plated interior capacity, an interior
ring of a non magnetic metal needs to be inserted. As the oscillating charge
movement made with the capacities now in series across this ring occur, the
lorentz deflection force on that charge movement; which is normally twice the
input frequency for a single phased spatial resonance reaction; now because the
EXB fields are in phase, the reaction output should be a DC pulsed current on
the ring.
The question on my mind what will happen if we mechanically rotate that ring? I
see that by hashing things out no reactionless vertical force should be seen on
that ring, but it provides for other theoretical amusements in the "what If"
category. The drift electron velocity in a material is a comparably low velocity
to the electrical impulse itself. It should be easy to rotate this theoretical
ring at the same velocity as the field imposed drift velocity. This then should
give two points of relative observation. If one is stationed on the ring as a
rotating observer, no current is measured on the ring cross section; but to the
external observer such current does exist. In fact come to think of it I have an
excellent demonstration that should be worthy of making a you-tube video over.
But first I would like to take a poll. In fact this demonstration will make
folks wonder if the wool is being pulled over their eyes. In fact this
demonstration SHOULD be
done because perhaps there are things here that have never before been seen,
such as the PROOF of magnetism being induced by macroscopic ferromagnetic spin.
In one slash I could take my sword of experimentation and kill the dragon of
remanent magnetism of the field rotor theory. But here is my challenge to those
who would take up this sword. How many people think that it is possible to have
a meter showing amperage into the rotating field of an alternator, but because
of the points of relativity between the rotating field and the non moving
observer arguments can be made to show that no current is actually going through
the field, because we show zero output on the alternator. We have simply
canceled out the electron drift velocity by a rotationally opposite slip ring to
field rotor velocity. Of course to propose such a thing is ludicrous since the
impulse itself is near the speed of light. So what causes this effect? The
electromagnet field made by
the windings is being exactly canceled out by the macroscopic effect of spinning
ferromagnetism by rotating it opposite to the drift velocity. Of course now
everyone agrees with me since I have explained it, so there again is probably no
need for a poll...
Sincerely Harvey D Norris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRmfHfCYPAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLEBH04Fi3Q
HDN

What does the 2009 Flux Capacitor Model do?

Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/


--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Mark Iverson <markiverson@...> wrote:

> From: Mark Iverson <markiverson@...>
> Subject: Re:Dimensional Aptitude Test.
> To: harvich@...
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 11:54 PM
>
>
> 
> 
> 
> Harvey:
>  
> Just
> curious...
> Would a static
> magnetic field perpendicular to an RF field, help in
> determining
> legitimacy?
Good idea, surprised I hadn't considered an exterior magnetic field to alter the
rf magnetic one. I do have some things with ferrite magnets to show. One can
take a larger 4 by 6 inch by one inch ferrite magnet, and attach steel utility
knife blades that are magnetically attracted to the magnets surface areas along
opposite edges; and then use this quantity to "ballast" a bulb discharge.
Crucial in this test is the sensing of rf EXCLUSIVELY coming from the magnet
itself. This is of course a process of elimination but to regress to the past
here clear back in Jan 2003 I had shown, (or thought I had shown) magnetic
vibrations made by passing rf currents through them. The following jpeg shows a
large 60 H coil in a ~480 hz alternator resonance where the coil uses a
plexiglass plate capacity as its C value for resonance. A neon bulb is connected
to the capacities midpoint voltage rise, but the other end of the bulb is not
connected to the voltage across the
  capacity but rather to the top surface of the magnet, which in turn sits atop a
plexiglass plate that sits atop the opposite C plate potential that the bulb
ending would normally be attached to. Essentially the bulb discharge is being
ballasted or current limited by the intervening capacities of ferrite and
plexiglass that separate the bulb from its opposite potential on the C side of
the resonance. A 500 ft spool of 14 gauge wire sits atop the magnet which
records an rf in the 180 khz range;
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files
/ALTMAGDsc00411.jpg
Scoping from 10.6 mh coil/ 2 volts/div:2 us/div
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/ALTMAGDsc00413.jpg
The problem here is that we dont know if the rf is coming from the neon
discharge itself, from the plates or the magnet... We do know that the neon bulb
is "causitive" for the rf effect, but again all neon discharges DO NOT prduce rf
to my knowledge, as these rf signatures cannot be obtained at this scale from a
NST.
The problem becomes isolating the sources of rf here, where now the story takes
a strange turn.
      After the last video was made I went to shut off the blinking grounded neon
bulb, which deserves further comment. Over ten years ago I wondered how many
blinks/sec were being made from this discharge, this was back in the days of VHS
video tape recorders. I made a recording and then reviewed the recording frame
by frame for 60 frames, which I found that the cameras recording rate was 60
frames per sec, and arrived at a figure near 12 hz if we count each blink as one
polarity side of an AC signal. Then the same recording was made into a mpeg 
with Dazzle software, but the recording looked different. I found out that Mpeg
only uses 30 frames per sec, and when I bought the new JVC camera I inquired
about their sampling rate and was again told that this was 30/sec. When this was
recorded in the last video the same thing is true, the actual amount of blinks
per sec is entirely different from what the camera shows, this misinterpretation
of data in time
  is like what happens in western movies where wagon wheel spokes appear to
rotate in the opposite direction of travel during a portion of filming where the
wagon deaccelerates to a stop. To get around this "data stream in time" problem
where the sensing instrument interferes with the observation we instead use an
oscilloscope to monitor the coils 60 hz magnetic field and what we see is that
when the neon ignites,(this can be felt as a thump when holding a NIB magnet
near the coil), a high frequency ringdown occurs on the coil near the peak of
the AC signal. But more interesting is the fact that after the discharge and its
cessation the 60 hz AC wave starts all over as a wave that gains voltage
amplitude until after several 60 hz cycles the neon again re-ignites, and in
this way the time period between blinks can be established. Now suppose I wished
to take a camera picture of this unusual AC form that gains amplitude and then
makes a rf ringdown. That
  might be difficult since the information being recorded is about 50 ms for the
slowest blink rate, where the sweep rate also beomes very slow to show 3 AC
cycles in one sweep and a camera scoping shot encompasses a time period only in
the fraction of a ms I would imagine, but I know nothing about cameras. But here
we see that the mpeg medium would then be good to show this information, because
a single frame cannot show that information unless the phosphor trace of scope
could last that long, which I doubt. But getting somewhat off subject here, as I
was saying when I turned off the bulb, I found that the ferrite sensor was still
recieving a signal, but from where? It was from my lap top computer! So off to
the races again, I had to explore this. The laptop gives off a very good BPS
rate, issuing a high frequency ringdown every ms, or at least 16 times per AC
signal, and the ringdowns correspond to the amplitude of the 60 hz signal. I was
also able to
  finish some work with the pentagonal primary, where this can be put around the
laptop and its resonant frequency response measured and compared with LC meter
measurements. Before my experimentation ended that morning I had succeeded in
measuring a 10 volt signal from this 5 wind primary around my laptop. This will
then be my next you tube video; Rf from a Laptop Computer.
Sincerely HDN
> We have an
> experimental system that can sweep from 300Khz to 20Ghz,
> and an ~2500 gauss
> mag-fld perpendicular to the RF field.
>
> Mark N.
> Iverson
> 
> markiverson@...
>   
>

Thinking about things, the following should be known and considered. Take three
lines in space and connect them to a common pt. These lines could be tilted in
any manner as concerns their intersection. For the lines to be equidistant from
their origin symmetrically from center on all three axis, this can be described
in three dimensions with xyz coodinate axis, generally representing three
dimensional space.

Now it has taken me a coons age to understand and even present an analogy to how
nature instead reflects four dimensions of action vs the mortal understanding of
3d. I think this actually explains what I have discovered within the context of
time expansion, and seemingly unfortunately found its limit of action, which is
good because it verifies and explains most experimental observations, but also
it seems to close the book as to what is attainable, which in my viewpoint is
disappointing, and background arguments still exist to evade that issue or
explore it further for the contradictions to be found.

To illustrate the new understanding then, now we intersect four lines in space
equidistantly. Obviously now the angle at the intersection of axis is less then
90 degrees. This becomes important later. But I think one of the TCML moderators
dismissed this stuff as pseudoscience when I tried to bring it up from cited
sources. In physics a cited source is generally considered before being
dismissed as quackery. This cited source is the Moon Model of the nucleus.

The most astounding thing here is the understanding that FOUR magnetic fields
can share the same space without interference, wherein our 3 dimensional space
we would suppose this to be three. Furthermore as the I Ching indicates there
are 64 possible combinations of non interfering magnetic actions possible at the
intersection pt. This is exactly why I began the work on making an octahedral
triangular spiral prototype to show the principle if it can be verified
experimentally.

The angles present at the center of the vortices of a cube having eight corners
can each have (line) currents either in unison or opposition on the intersecting
angle, but they will not interfere with each other, or coils then constructed
from the same dimensional geometry then should have no mutual inductance between
them. If the four line intersection then had two series coils on the outside
periphery as an octahedron of exterior triangular coils, this then is an eight
sided spiral coil made triangularly by connection of outside edges, all of which
should have no mutual induction. When the series current from the faces of two
opposite sides of triangular spirals act; a north pole comes out from one face
and its opposite face emits a south pole. Here then are four binary
possibilities that can be combined for a total of 64 combinations of actual
polarities in space.

In time I will finish these thinkings, but think of this, what angles are
contained on the plane as a circle around just two of the four lines made on the
intersection. This should always be 360 degrees, shouldn't it?
HDN