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The list is suddenly very quiet. While we wait for Edward Hieatt's first couple of chapters (hi, Edward :-), has anyone been trying any of the concepts or...
Kent Beck
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Jun 4, 2002
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... I'm still learning TDD, but so far it's working well on *new* code. I'm still just focusing on the basics... test first one method at a time. Many of the...
Purvis, Levi
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... I actually like that feeling, as it confirms that I have read the code correctly. When I get a test that fails, I'm nervous even when I get the test...
Kent Beck
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From: "Kent Beck" <kentbeck@...> ... first [...] I've mostly bought in to a highly TDD way of working. (Except in one area, database schema layout, where...
Kyle Cordes
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Jun 4, 2002
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... I wrote a test browser that tests itself: http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?PyUnitTestBrowser -- Phlip http://www.greencheese.org/HoneySatellite -- In the future...
Phlip
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Jun 5, 2002
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... I agree, except that with very tangled code, I still feel suspicious about passing tests. It doesn't give me confidence I get from proper tests written...
Peter Lindberg
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Jun 5, 2002
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... Eureka! In that one sentence you brought the TDD draft together with Feathers' paper in a nice little concise package for me. Thanks! ... Yes, I like it!...
Purvis, Levi
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Jun 5, 2002
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... Unit test for every new bug or regression. This way you can start by refactoring, without having any tests. You'll make lots of mistakes that way, but you...
Laurent Bossavit
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Jun 5, 2002
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I think everyone was deadlocked, waiting for someone else to post something. I've fallen off the wagon recently. Been working on some legacy code that is...
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Jun 5, 2002
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In an attempt to put a constructive spin on the nightmare that has been my job over the last couple of weeks, here are some things I have come to believe with...
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Jun 5, 2002
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... When you look at the output, how do you know whether it's right? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way. -- Jessica Rabbit...
Ron Jeffries
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Jun 5, 2002
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When modifying existing code, I enter the same terms into the front pages of the live and test versions, and check for a roughly similar response (ie. they...
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... As you suggest, fixed data and init the random number generator to a known starting point. This should give constant output. Then you can test. The answer...
Ron Jeffries
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Jun 5, 2002
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... Did he try adding womyn? -- Phlip http://www.greencheese.org/LucidScheming -- Personally qualified to snub Mensa --...
Phlip
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... http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtractAlgorithmRefactor ... That means it represents 2 years of aggressive manual testing; an investment worth preserving. You can...
Phlip
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... No. Multiplying. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com The rules are ways of thinking, not ways to avoid thinking....
Ron Jeffries
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Multiplying pregnant womyn makes it earlier. So does adding manpower early. This is important to know. /P. ... -- Peter Lindberg Computer Programmer, Oops AB,...
Peter Lindberg
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From: <darren.hobbs@...> ... been my ... and ... understand, ... the ... looks I agree wholeheartedly. Singletons are the global variables of the OO...
Kyle Cordes
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... Frame?! Why not a programmer's typesetting system like LaTeX? -- Bil...
Bil Kleb
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... Shameless self-promotion: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/co-single.html -- J. B. Rainsberger, President, Diaspar Software...
J. B. Rainsberger
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... Is it possible to programmatically drive the old system during testing? If the old and new code can be run more or less simultaneously against the same...
Bill Rutiser
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... I do that sometimes, when I'm feeling bold. It often gets me in trouble; as you said, "lots of mistakes". I'm trying to repent the non-testing sins of ...
Purvis, Levi
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... Some experiences: * I could TDD regular expressions. * I could TDD algorithms. * TDD is a wonderful way for learning/teaching '''TDD RE''' Have a look at...
Changjune Kim
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Jun 5, 2002
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... Yup. And note that if you're not making *any* mistakes, you're not being productive. You want to be making mistakes - but not more of them, and none that...
Laurent Bossavit
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Jun 5, 2002
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... Similar to the topic of learning and teaching has anyone had introducing TDD to people in scripting languages? Or more specifically, languages in which...
noneofyer42businessbub
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... Nice idea; I'll try it. I spent an hour or two yesterday showing a coworker how to use formulas in Excel. I *could* have shown her first what we expect...
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Jun 5, 2002
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Everyone: When I was at IBM, I discovered test-first programming at the same time as I was in crunch time delivering a bridge between WebSphere Commerce and...
J. B. Rainsberger
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... You think that's *English* you're speaking? :) -- J. B. Rainsberger, President, Diaspar Software Services Let's write software that people understand. ...
J. B. Rainsberger
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Or the Simpleton pattern, as one of my cow-orkers put it (having read about it in the GoF book)....
Weber, Derek
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... I look forwards to hearing how it goes. I'd like to hear especially how you explain it to her and how you deal with any objections she might have. As I'm...
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