from Re: [TDD] Is a commented code a smell? ... --OT-- Sigh again.. Another story. We had this piece of yarn that people had been spinning since I was born. By...
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Mike
ocean_west_2005
May 2, 2006 12:00 pm
OK, that works, but I don't see a compelling advantage over properties. Ordinary properties are typed, and appear to be TSTTCPW besides. Yes, I think the time...
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Mike
ocean_west_2005
May 2, 2006 1:23 pm
... I'm using the trial version 2.0, and it doesn't seem to be able to handle such refactorings very well. The only time when search and replace doesn't seem...
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Pascal Roy
pascal_roy_1967
May 2, 2006 1:24 pm
Ron, Here’s a suggestion. Maybe you have already looked into something like this, but just in case… We’ve been toying with Selenium...
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Mike
ocean_west_2005
May 2, 2006 1:48 pm
Yes you can do it, by doing multiple refactorings, but I don't think it's the easiest way in this case, since you need to first create a field, then make it a...
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Anderson, Kelly
kellycoinguy
May 2, 2006 2:27 pm
... Bob, I have to say that your suggestions on this thread have been very useful and thought provoking. This one in particular has me thinking completely...
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Anderson, Kelly
kellycoinguy
May 2, 2006 2:45 pm
... I guess I didn't think that it was a problem to have a "list" of something exposed. I'm rethinking that, but it will take some time to sink in. ... I...
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Anderson, Kelly
kellycoinguy
May 2, 2006 3:05 pm
... Mike, Not to start an editor war or anything (please let's not do that!) I find CodeWright to be very useful from time to time for little editing jobs that...
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unmesh_joshi
May 2, 2006 3:11 pm
I was away from the list for last several days. Thanks to everybody who shared their views. ... After adopting TDD I see following improvements in my working ...
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Ayende Rahien
ayende_tdd
May 2, 2006 3:20 pm
What is the problem with new lines and S&R ... From: testdrivendevelopment@yahoogroups.com [mailto:testdrivendevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike ...
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David Rosenstrauch
darose2
May 2, 2006 5:03 pm
... Well, I'll give you the example where I ran into the problem. I was working with URL's. I had classes for relative URL's and absolute URL's. One truth...
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David Rosenstrauch
darose2
May 2, 2006 5:03 pm
... Well, I'll give you the example where I ran into the problem. I was working with URL's. I had classes for relative URL's and absolute URL's. One truth...
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Anderson, Kelly
kellycoinguy
May 2, 2006 5:03 pm
... I second that thought. At the VERY least, I feel like I'm learning about something useful. Learning and personal professional progress (sharpening the saw)...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
May 2, 2006 5:15 pm
... Oh, come on. Bag the hype. Maybe TDD makes your code a bit better, but even that comes at a cost. Keeps you learning, awake, and alert? That's so bogus. ...
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Anderson, Kelly
kellycoinguy
May 2, 2006 5:17 pm
... Thanks. I appreciate preciseness in communications, even when I don't always achieve it myself. :-) ... Ok, but the issues I've been facing have been in...
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Anderson, Kelly
kellycoinguy
May 2, 2006 5:46 pm
... It's amazing how complex something as seemingly simple as a URL can get when you dig into it. ... Yeah, I wouldn't (and didn't) do this. ... This is what...
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Anderson, Kelly
kellycoinguy
May 2, 2006 5:49 pm
... This reminds me of an old comedy show skit about a weight loss program that consisted of hanging around with very fat people to make yourself look thinner....
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Mike
ocean_west_2005
May 2, 2006 6:18 pm
... Can be done in VS, at least to a limited extent, but it's hardly convenient nor a time saver. Unless you know some tricks. I'm sure it would be easier to...
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mbrown103
May 2, 2006 6:36 pm
One of my main tasks is to produce or upgrade features on my companies web site. I would like to use TDD to do this because one of the problems I have been...
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Ayende Rahien
ayende_tdd
May 2, 2006 8:04 pm
You don't need to ship the tests. I usually create: Foo.Dll Foo.Tests.Dll - reference foo This system has a big potential of versioning problem, where you fix...
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Ayende Rahien
ayende_tdd
May 2, 2006 8:06 pm
Yes. I hate VS' regexes, but they have their uses. It is much easier to do it right from the start, of course. In general, since the UI is very dynamic, I find...
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mbrown103
May 2, 2006 8:19 pm
Understood and agreed. I unfortunatly need to find a way to test the functions directly from the web page's code behind. I am not at liberty to add foo.dll...
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Ayende Rahien
ayende_tdd
May 2, 2006 8:30 pm
Why are you not able to add extra dlls? Is this some business requirements ? If so, can you make use of ILMerge to go around that? Are you at liberty to create...
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mbrown103
May 2, 2006 8:57 pm
I am not familiar with ILMerge. I will do some research on this to see if it is a viable option. Yes the dll issue is a business requirement. As far as the...
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Ayende Rahien
ayende_tdd
May 2, 2006 9:12 pm
Test code in a separate project is a good idea, I use it all the time. I would really suggest against putting anything non trivial in the code behind. The...
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mbrown103
May 2, 2006 9:18 pm
I agree with you completely. It creates code maintenence issues. Thank you for your help. ... time. ... code ... over the ... mbrown103 ... environment ... ...
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Eric Chu
echu888
May 2, 2006 10:10 pm
I don't have much experience with the other testing frameworks, but at work, we elected to use TUT ( http://tut-framework.sourceforge.net/ ) which we liked for...
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Rob Park
rpark68
May 2, 2006 11:24 pm
We use NUnitAsp for acceptance testing of Asp.net pages. It's slow, so not good for being test-driven, but I suppose it'd be an option. .rob....
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Monang Setyawan
oversleptkitten
May 2, 2006 11:29 pm
... Yes, good solution (I've thought about this kind of refactoring before). My next question is, is it a common practice to make a method as "protected" ...
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Christian Hauknes
cbhauknes
May 2, 2006 11:29 pm
... "While unit tests help greatly in documenting fixes, to the extent that infuriating bugs are related to wrong assumptions, unit tests that reiterate the...
