... Hi Thanks for your words Kelly and you're right, sometimes I don't sit back and appreciate how far I have come in such a short time but I'm always striving...
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Gishu Pillai
gishu_pillai
Jun 1, 2006 9:58 am
I have an object that needs to be created once in a process. So I have implemented the Singleton pattern with private ctors et all. All is fine. Now I get a...
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Donaldson, John (GEO)
geo_johnfr
Jun 1, 2006 10:07 am
I don't see how you can do this is a TDD way. Just give up and write an integration test driven from a script? John D. ... From:...
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adam
adam.maillist01@...
Jun 1, 2006 10:19 am
can you make the appropriate instance getter protected virtual, that way you can inherit and override in your tests. Or just inherit from the singleton in your...
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Gishu Pillai
gishu_pillai
Jun 1, 2006 10:35 am
... one. Nice one. Here's what my sneaky brain came up with... public class EggFactory { private static Egg m_obSingleInstance; private EggFactory() {} public...
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Joakim Ohlrogge
j0hlrogge
Jun 1, 2006 10:40 am
I assume that you are using Java in the post below. I think C# has the equivalent to all the stuff below or some other solutions to acomplish the same. ...
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Donaldson, John (GEO)
geo_johnfr
Jun 1, 2006 10:56 am
Gishu, well, in fact I didn't mean give up on TDD - I meant give up on using a unit-testing tool for this test. You can still do TDD but in an integration kind...
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Artur Jales Moreira
moravich
Jun 1, 2006 11:55 am
I'm with John on this issue. In my opinion, what you are trying to test does not fall under the umbrella of unit tests. So you would be better of using a...
16961
avinap77
Jun 1, 2006 12:03 pm
... I recently did something similar with TDDing several threads accessing a shared resource, but the same idea should be applicable with seperate processes: ...
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Mirkana Aleh
Mirkana
Jun 1, 2006 12:38 pm
Hi, We manage to do these tests without compromising the scope of the methods using TypeMock.NET (www.typemock.net). It is quite simple you save the state of...
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Donaldson, John (GEO)
geo_johnfr
Jun 1, 2006 1:21 pm
Avi, yes, I too use this "hands off" technique (for example, I work with a product which outputs a file - so I detect the file output). But it's weak TDD, not...
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Eduardo Yáñez Para...
eduardo.yanez
Jun 1, 2006 2:52 pm
Hi all, I'm new to.. erm, well I'm trying to become new to TDD :), I've read some articles, and Kent Beck's book, but there are some ways to do things that...
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Trond Arve Wasskog
ilmyggo
Jun 1, 2006 2:54 pm
You could Just Create One as Uncle Bob suggests: http://butunclebob.com/ArticleS.UncleBob.SingletonVsJustCreateOne Cheers, Trond Arve ... [Non-text portions of...
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Jeff.Yu
achievo_jeff_yu
Jun 1, 2006 2:58 pm
Hi, I have some puzzles about the interaction based test, i'm sorry that it is a bit lengthy, but i just want to make you to understand my situation easily. ...
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James Carr
cloud_strife...
Jun 1, 2006 3:24 pm
Hi, When I used to develop in PHP, I used partial mocks to mock only certain methods of a particular test object. I found this handy because I could isolate...
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avinap77
Jun 1, 2006 4:28 pm
... Hi John. What makes this "weak"? Is it any less direct than testing throuugh a test-framework? think of the spawned processes as an extended/proprietary...
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Joakim Ohlrogge
j0hlrogge
Jun 1, 2006 4:54 pm
I think what you are asking for is "intercept" in rMock: http://rmock.sf.net It works by subclassing the class you want to mock. Any method you don't record...
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Tony Byrne
tony_j_byrne
Jun 1, 2006 5:16 pm
Hello Jeff.Yu, First off, you are not alone. Plenty of people have trouble with automating tests in the presence of a database. The problem is made even more...
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Ron Jeffries
ronaldejeffries
Jun 1, 2006 5:21 pm
... Will there be any code? Can you think of any ways it could be written wrongly? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Learn the principle, abide by the...
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avinap77
Jun 1, 2006 6:18 pm
... Hi Eduardo. I think you should start by articulating some stories, and then translate them into tests. ... So there are several stories (I've extended...
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Anderson, Kelly
kellycoinguy
Jun 1, 2006 7:50 pm
The desire to improve one's self is important, and unfortunately somewhat rare these days. It is clearly NOT rare among those who post on this list, which is...
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Anderson, Kelly
kellycoinguy
Jun 1, 2006 7:52 pm
I do!!! This list. :-) -Kelly ________________________________ For now, I don't know what else to read instead. Jean. E-Mail messages may contain viruses,...
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Mark Wilden
markwilden
Jun 1, 2006 8:11 pm
From: "Anderson, Kelly" <kanderson@...> ... Honestly! I don't read any "magazines." There is way more than enough quality online material to keep me...
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James Carr
cloud_strife...
Jun 1, 2006 8:18 pm
Thanks....
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Phlip
phlipcpp
Jun 1, 2006 8:24 pm
... Great. This mailing list just helped kill print media. I hope you are all satisfied. -- Phlip http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ZeekLand <-- NOT a blog!!...
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Mark Wilden
markwilden
Jun 1, 2006 8:35 pm
... From: "Jeff.Yu" <jeff.yuchang@...> ... The way I've done this is to 1) use a test database whose contents won't affect developers, 2) begin a...
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Mark Wilden
markwilden
Jun 1, 2006 8:36 pm
From: "James Carr" <james.r.carr@...> ... I think this can always be achieved by subclassing and overriding the mocked methods. ///ark...
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Tim Ottinger
linux_tim
Jun 1, 2006 8:41 pm
... Slashdot, OS Views, Daily Python URL, and Daily WTF....
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Joakim Ohlrogge
j0hlrogge
Jun 1, 2006 9:16 pm
... True, you can always create manual mocks. There is no situation where dynamic mocks is the only possible solution but I think that it is more convenient...
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Robert Martin
rmartinoma
Jun 2, 2006 2:19 am
... Tim, you should post an example of this surface area problem. I agree that high surface area is distasteful. I *really* hate constructors with lots of...
