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2442 jhrothjr Offline Send Email Nov 1, 2002
1:42 pm
... They have? I certainly haven't noticed this in my Python work. I normally do a test module for each production module. I believe this is also the standard...
2443 mvanhamersveld92009
mvanhamersve... Offline Send Email
Nov 8, 2002
6:58 pm
I have an implementation class, call it Foo, that I have a set of comprehensive test cases for. I have another class, call it Bar, which does some stuff, also ...
2444 Dave Astels
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Nov 8, 2002
7:32 pm
... If those delegating methods get changed to doing something locally, you'll be in trouble unless you add tests for it. But then they shouldn't change...
2445 Michael Hill
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Nov 8, 2002
7:39 pm
Mark... My feelings on this are very strong, and I'm liable to get my ass kicked here for saying so. I have a general answer and my personal answer. General...
2446 Dave Astels
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Nov 8, 2002
8:44 pm
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 15:39, Michael Hill wrote: Mark... ... Hill. Strong feelings? You? ... Interesting.. it didn't hit me before. If you're doing TDD, and...
2447 Van Hamersveld, Mark
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Nov 8, 2002
9:04 pm
Well, they have "tests" in the sense that they are called in tests for the Bar class. However, only the Foo class has comprehensive boundary and logic ...
2448 wtanksleyjr@...
wtanksle Offline Send Email
Nov 8, 2002
10:05 pm
From: Michael Hill <uly@...> ... Not a bad answer. Another one is to ask what the tests in this case are for. If you're using them to do TDD, then...
2449 Dinwiddie, George
gdinwiddie Offline Send Email
Nov 8, 2002
10:53 pm
... That's a good point. WRT the test implementing a base class, I *have* done so when I was extending an object and I wanted the extension to have all the ...
2450 cpp gent
cppgent0 Offline Send Email
Nov 8, 2002
10:59 pm
... If I'm not mistaken the smell is "I'll have to maintain two sets of nearly identical tests in parallel". To me the issues are: - how stable are foo and...
2451 Ron Jeffries
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Nov 9, 2002
4:24 am
... Something might be right. What could go wrong if you don't test? What does all this delegation suggest to you? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com It is not...
2452 Kent Beck
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Nov 11, 2002
11:24 pm
The TDD book edged out Martin's "Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture" at OOPSLA (I now have some extra copies...) I'd like to thank the community...
2453 Dave Astels
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Nov 12, 2002
12:16 am
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 19:24, Kent Beck wrote: The TDD book edged out Martin's "Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture" at OOPSLA Congrats! Now, about...
2454 C. Keith Ray
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Nov 12, 2002
5:28 pm
... Instead of duplicating tests, re-use them by passing into them the object to be tested (the original object, or the one that is delegating). Or pass in a ...
2455 darach_ennis Offline Send Email Nov 13, 2002
4:04 am
Hullo all. <delurk> I've got mine in the initial stages... I'm looking at a slightly different world: automation, but testing, or observation is a big part of...
2456 Michael Feathers
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Nov 13, 2002
12:37 pm
Hello darach_ennis, d> <delurk> d> I've got mine in the initial stages... I'm looking d> at a slightly different world: automation, but testing, d> or...
2457 tajenfu Offline Send Email Nov 13, 2002
7:00 pm
Hello, I'm writing an report about xUnit, can somebody tell me the about origin of xUnit or where i can find it? Thank you very much. Tajen...
2458 Marco Dorantes Martinez
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Nov 13, 2002
7:10 pm
there is the famous article Test infected by Kent Beck and Erich Gamma http://junit.sourceforge.net/doc/testinfected/testing.htm also a popular article by Kent...
2459 Kyle Cordes
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Nov 13, 2002
7:37 pm
From: "tajenfu" <tajenfu@...> ... origin of xUnit or where i can find it? Go to Google. Search for xUnit. Choose the first link. Kyle Cordes ...
2460 Dinwiddie, George
gdinwiddie Offline Send Email
Nov 13, 2002
7:56 pm
... www.google.com, www.junit.org, c2.com are some of the first places that come to mind. Where have you looked so far?...
2461 Kent Beck
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Nov 13, 2002
8:02 pm
Why don't you upload a copy here. The community here might be even more helpful than those nose-in-the-cloud refactoring geeks. Oh, wait, I'm one of those,...
2462 Bishop, Murray
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Nov 13, 2002
8:14 pm
Michael Feathers writes ... http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=legacy says 1. Money or property bequeathed to another by will. 2. Something handed down from an...
2463 J. B. Rainsberger
nails762 Offline Send Email
Nov 13, 2002
8:15 pm
So said tajenfu on 2002-11-13 ... origin ... When you used Google to search for xUnit, what did you find? J. B. Rainsberger, President, Diaspar Software...
2464 Kent Beck
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Nov 13, 2002
8:22 pm
I wrote the original in Smalltalk because I had told a client how important testing was and I was embarrassed to be flying out there the next day with no...
2465 Ron Jeffries
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Nov 13, 2002
8:57 pm
... The original program was in Smalltalk. The original paper is this one: http://www.xprogramming.com/testfram.htm . Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Logic...
2466 Michael Feathers
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Nov 13, 2002
10:28 pm
Sure. Please let me know what you think. Michael KB> Why don't you upload a copy here. The community here might be even more KB> helpful than those...
2467 testdrivendevelopment... Send Email Nov 13, 2002
10:30 pm
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the testdrivendevelopment group. File :...
2468 Keith Nicholas
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Nov 13, 2002
10:37 pm
so far it looks quite good... Some comments from my experiences.... I think one of the major aspects about legacy code is code that's made a slow and steady...
2469 Benjamin Schroeder
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Nov 14, 2002
12:37 am
... Congratulations, and thanks again for the opportunity to read and discuss the drafts! I'll be looking forward to getting a print copy (or two: there's...
2470 Michael Feathers
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Nov 14, 2002
2:40 pm
Hello Keith, Wednesday, November 13, 2002, 5:37:46 PM, you wrote: KN> so far it looks quite good... KN> Some comments from my experiences.... KN> I think one...
2471 Michael Feathers
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Nov 14, 2002
2:42 pm
Murray, I put the file up in this yahoo group also. BTW, I like your reasoning. Here's a blurb where I talk about what I mean by legacy code: "The main thing...
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