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2911 Laurent Bossavit
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Jan 1, 2003
9:44 am
... So you know more today than you did yesterday. Good news about today, as Ron might say, not bad news about yesterday. What does the method look like now...
2912 bcr19374 <bcr19374@...>
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Jan 1, 2003
2:39 pm
... today, ... method ... The second version I posted yesterday is what's currently in the code. I hadn't actually thought the the hasGangs() method until I ...
2913 Charles Medcoff <cmed...
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Jan 2, 2003
10:54 pm
Reading through most of this thread and summurizing one can almost conclude that if you have a (web) application that does little more than provide a user...
2914 Griffin Caprio
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Jan 2, 2003
11:21 pm
I think that's about 50% true/ 50% false. You can accomplish qua lotalot in the lower layers of your application with the xUnit testing framework. However,...
2915 Griffin Caprio
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Jan 2, 2003
11:23 pm
Please excuse the last reply, my spell checker went nuts. I think that's about 50% true/ 50% false. You can accomplish quite a lot in the lower layers of your...
2916 Bill de hÓra
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Jan 3, 2003
3:31 am
... Well, aside from the fact that web is the ultimate expression of CRUD... yes and no. Yes because like it or not testing web (esp HTML) interfaces requires...
2917 darach_ennis <darach....
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Jan 3, 2003
5:38 am
Hullo all. Brief delurk from hell... ... practice, less ... I live in a DBC world and have used TDD succesfully in that regard almost daily for about 2 years...
2918 Danil
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Jan 3, 2003
6:07 am
Disclaimer: I've no professional experience with this - I'm just playing the home game. <quote> You're forgetting that they also serve as examples of expected...
2919 C. Keith Ray
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Jan 3, 2003
5:59 pm
Some misinformation about XP is on <http://www.codeguru.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=222466> One of the posters states that a C++ class designed...
2920 Phlip
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Jan 3, 2003
6:53 pm
From: "C. Keith Ray" ... then ... doesn't ... 0. Obeys the ground rules and "sane subset" of your language. ... Gods bless C++ programmers who feel pride in...
2921 bcr19374 <bcr19374@...>
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Jan 3, 2003
8:25 pm
Well, I've already failed to TDD this class. But I'm wondering how someone would have done it? Here's the code: import java.awt.Color; import...
2922 Phlip
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Jan 3, 2003
8:38 pm
From: <bcr19374@...> ... You failed because the TDD book does not cover user interfaces. They are an especially tricky library (but >just< a library)...
2923 darach_ennis <darach....
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Jan 3, 2003
9:51 pm
Hullo guys. I'm not sure whether I can shed light on this but I can offer some opinions if that helps... ... to ... The contract does 'know' the contract...
2924 Dale Emery <dale@...>
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Jan 3, 2003
10:13 pm
Hi Darach, ... Another problem, probably less significant, is that the representation of the contract in your programming language may represent stuff that ...
2925 darach_ennis <darach....
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Jan 3, 2003
11:37 pm
Hullo Dale, all. ... contract. ... representation ... that ... Yip! That brings up another point I think I missed in the response. I guess a contract as...
2926 Christopher Barham
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Jan 4, 2003
2:40 pm
... <bcr19374@...> ... <snip> I found this article by Bill Wake very informative regarding this: http://www.xp123.com/xplor/xp0001/index.shtml It's also...
2927 testdrivendevelopment... Send Email Jan 6, 2003
11:13 pm
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the testdrivendevelopment group: In your opinion, is the TDD methodology more, equally, or less ...
2928 testdrivendevelopment... Send Email Jan 6, 2003
11:15 pm
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the testdrivendevelopment group: In your opinion, is the TDD methodology more, equally, or less ...
2929 Phlip
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Jan 6, 2003
11:32 pm
Thanks. But... ... You should have had an entry called "Order of Magnitude More Effective" -- Phlip http://www.greencheese.org/LucidScheming -- Shock Value...
2930 John Carter
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Jan 7, 2003
12:04 am
The subject line gave me a good chuckle when I heard it. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait Electronics...
2931 darach_ennis <darach....
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Jan 7, 2003
9:32 am
Hullo all. I've just tried out TDD as a method to 'debug up' a framework into existance for I18N testing on a spike i'm on at work. And it's worked pretty...
2932 Johannes Link <john.l...
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Jan 8, 2003
8:52 am
Darach, ... and ... What you write about test driven DBC sounds full of good ideas for unifying two valuable approaches for building quality software. Maybe ...
2933 darach_ennis <darach....
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Jan 8, 2003
9:27 am
Hullo Johannes, ... Maybe ... small ... I can do better than that... I'll draft an article and post it to the group for review (with an example) in a week or...
2934 Paul Michali
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Jan 8, 2003
5:47 pm
Hi all. I'm trying to learn how to do things Test First on a small tool project and I've hit a problem where I couldn't figure out how to proceed, so I fell...
2935 jhrothjr <yahoogroups...
jhrothjr Offline Send Email
Jan 9, 2003
5:57 pm
... It took me a couple of reads to figure out what you were trying to ask! Clearly, you're not in an XP environment, because the problem you're trying to...
2936 Bill Wake <william.wa...
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Jan 9, 2003
8:11 pm
... Are you refactoring or re-implementing? ... algorithm ... it was ... algorithm that ... that several ... I think you could refactor "almost" all the way...
2937 Paul Michali
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Jan 10, 2003
4:03 pm
... I'm trying to use some XP techniques, but I doing this solo. My focus is more on learning about Test-First, by trying to do it with a small tool...
2938 Paul Michali
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Jan 10, 2003
4:29 pm
... Yes :^) I started refactoring, but thought that I could, for one very messy part of the program, try re-writing that piece and swap it in to see if it...
2939 Bill Wake <william.wa...
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Jan 11, 2003
5:04 pm
... region) { ... svIter.next()); ... contribVersion.name()); ... region, ... I'm afraid I don't have any deep insight, but just a few suggestions that may...
2940 Paul Michali
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Jan 12, 2003
11:38 pm
... Let me annotate the example a bit to try to explain the difficulty I'm having with the external system calls... ... I pass in an Owner object that...
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