... I've done it in bash (Unix shell). The trick is to break your code up into small specialised scripts and then paramterise the command names, That way you...
Everyone: I have noticed something about TDD with frameworks that I wanted to share and ask for some opinions. Start with the proposition "the fewer mocks, the...
... I'm not understanding what you're getting at, J.B. Let me ask some questions: What do you mean by "TDD with frameworks"? Are you talking about using ...
Taking a different approach, test your current code on a different windows platform. We have just been experiencing some strange behaviour on Windows XP, even ...
I just wanted to say thanks to the folks who have responded to the polls. If you haven't responded yet please do. I'm using the results for a school research...
... See what John Hughes is doing with QuickCheck. It's not 1:1 what you might expect, but from my limited experience with FP it seems to fit into that ...
So said Ron Jeffries on 2003-02-02 -------------------- ... share ... <snip /> ... To clarify: I mean test-driving classes that hook in to a framework. The...
... Well, sort of. But now I interpret your question as being "If the framework you are programming to runs on lots of message objects, do you find that you...
... Nice explanation. I'm interested to get Ron's take on this, as well, and don't mean to jump in here. For what it's worth, I always lean toward option #2....
... I would, as well. I think a high number of mocks is a testing smell. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict...
... RJ> I would, as well. I think a high number of mocks is a testing smell. I'm kind of reappreciating the mock right now. I've recently worked with teams...
... <mfeathers@o...> wrote: <<cut>> ... I ... Michael, I am interested in this point you mention. I have been developing a Visual Studio add-in, trying to use...
... I have seen this happen on my projects also. Currently I only goto a mock if I am about to do something that cumulatively may take a long time (i.e....
So said Ron Jeffries on 2003-02-03 -------------------- ... you ... still ... calling ... framework ... that ... something. ... for the ... Hm. Let me try...
So said Mike Clark on 2003-02-03 -------------------- ... object ... a ... you ... So in light of that, and with a better (I hope) expression of the ...
I'm trying to write some JDBC code test first. My problem has to do with testing parent/child relationships. I've been able to test that I can read and write...
... What's anti-OO about it? To my mind, OO is about dependency management. If by only sending an object what it needs (and no more) that object in turn is...
... Ah. OK. I, too, would favor things that reduce the number of mocks. I like to run mock-free. I'm not sure I'd worry about the messages on the grounds that...
... <<CUT>> <<...>> ... Hi Mike, I do still have a call to buildconfig, only it is with something that exists within the Build Config package (its actually...
... More applied, practical, pragmatic. Reading "TDD: By Example" is a good (but not required) prerequisite to reading mine. Afterall, it's called "TDD: A...
I have just been presented with an application with 3 subsystems plus some procedures in the database. All of the application functionality is accessed via...
... Mock Objects are much more than just stubs. They allow you to set expectations, run your code, then self-verify themselves. I have used Mock Objects to ...
... Is there someone there who understands the program? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com Sigs are like I Ching or Tarot. They don't mean anything, but...
Good question. I'm still new, but I'm working hard to get to know people - oddly it helps that I'm a smoker, never under-estimate informal communication! The...
... I would go about that piece-meal, refactoring only when I have to touch the servlet for another reason. And I'd want to understand what the servlet does...