... Thanks David. The specific issue I was seeing was due to the Record-Replay model of Rhino Mocks. An event subscription in the test subject's ctor (in ...
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Gishu Pillai
gishu_pillai
Oct 1, 2009 11:13 am
... Haven't read the book.. interesting guideline though. Wouldn't that multiply the number of tests ? e.g. if a single scenario exercises a test subject's...
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Gishu Pillai
gishu_pillai
Oct 1, 2009 11:28 am
The slides for my talk is shared here http://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dcx49m86_22f2n8txcm My motivation behind this was : "If you had just 6-8 hrs to...
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Carlo Bottiglieri
invernomutoai
Oct 1, 2009 3:11 pm
Hello Gishu. Very dense. I liked it. Just three quick suggestions : - in the slides I read that (and I get the feeling that) refactoring means "remove...
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Donaldson, John (GEO)
geo_johnfr
Oct 1, 2009 5:22 pm
Gishu, Wow - first of all - good job - you hit all the main topics as far as I can see. But... I usually work on a rule of thumb of 2 minutes per slide, and...
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Olof Bjarnason
olof.bjarnason@...
Oct 1, 2009 6:40 pm
I think your presentation rocks - but you will not be able to get all point across in one mere day. I tried running half-aday presentation/handson (much like...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Oct 1, 2009 7:05 pm
Hi Gishu, It's a great effort with all the right stuff. I'll get to the suggestions now. :-) 1) I think you have too much material for the time if your...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Oct 1, 2009 7:13 pm
Hi John, ... Agreed. ... In the usual "bullet point" style, I use the same guideline. But since I read "Beyond Bullet Points" I tend to try to talk more about...
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Gishu Pillai
gishu_pillai
Oct 2, 2009 6:03 am
@Carlo - Agreed, will rephrase to indicate refactoring not always = remove duplication... although its a 80% case - Koskela's book - Haven't read it yet.. Will...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Oct 2, 2009 6:25 am
Hi Gishu: I like it. I have been developing a similar presentation for my new employer. While what I came up with is significantly different I admire what you...
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Donaldson, John (GEO)
geo_johnfr
Oct 2, 2009 6:28 am
Charlie, Yes, I accept pretty well all your additions and reservations. My "2 minutes per slide" was really only a way to think about the length and complexity...
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Olof Bjarnason
olof.bjarnason@...
Oct 2, 2009 7:03 am
2009/10/2 Gishu Pillai <gishu.pillai@...> ... Gishu; maybe you could present your team to the TDD problems site? ...
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Olof Bjarnason
olof.bjarnason@...
Oct 2, 2009 9:48 am
I happened to stumble upon a good TDD problem today. Added it to the site: ...
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Mark Levison
marklevison
Oct 2, 2009 2:36 pm
I've not had a chance to read Gishu's presentation - but a quick reply to John. The minimalist approach to slide decks is to counter the problem of people...
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Mark Levison
marklevison
Oct 2, 2009 2:59 pm
Gishu - somehow I missed the original email and offline right now so I can't look it up. I do however have some general advice/thoughts. (My background and why...
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Mark Levison
marklevison
Oct 2, 2009 2:59 pm
Gishu - somehow I missed the original email and offline right now so I can't look it up. I do however have some general advice/thoughts. (My background and why...
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Mark Levison
marklevison
Oct 2, 2009 3:08 pm
Gishu - somehow I missed the original email and offline right now so I can't look it up. I do however have some general advice/thoughts. (My background and why...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Oct 2, 2009 5:12 pm
Hi Mark, The best way I've found to counter this problem is to make slides that *illustrate* the points I'm making but which don't actually make the points by...
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Mark Levison
marklevison
Oct 2, 2009 6:17 pm
Charlie - by and large we're on the same page. The key is to be aware of the problem and consider whether you need to create a separate handout/article/book...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Oct 2, 2009 8:42 pm
Hi John, ... Yes. And in a pinch, when I fall back to the "standard" bullet points approach, I use the same estimate myself. ... I've done this for an hour or...
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Gishu Pillai
gishu_pillai
Oct 5, 2009 7:55 pm
Hi everyone, Put some more hours into it. Revision 2 can be found at the following link (although the previous one should work just as well.) ...
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Charlie Poole
cpoole98370
Oct 6, 2009 2:08 am
Hi Gishu, I really like what you've done with the design principles! Charlie...
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Donaldson, John (GEO)
geo_johnfr
Oct 6, 2009 7:57 am
Maybe it's just me, but the "green" doesn't show as green! (Slide 5) John D. ... From: testdrivendevelopment@yahoogroups.com...
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Donaldson, John (GEO)
geo_johnfr
Oct 6, 2009 8:03 am
Gishu, It would help if I knew where the hands-on exercises are. I would have liked to see a short hands-on before the principles section - just set up the...
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Carlos Ble
carlosble
Oct 6, 2009 9:15 am
Great work Gishu, It is useful for my classes :-) Thanks! 2009/10/6 Donaldson, John (GEO) <john.m.donaldson@...> ... [Non-text portions of this message have...
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Gishu Pillai
gishu_pillai
Oct 6, 2009 4:46 pm
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Donaldson, John (GEO) ... Thanks! I've checked in code-snapshots for the first 2 exercises here - ...
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Mark Levison
marklevison
Oct 8, 2009 8:10 pm
... http://www.speakingaboutpresenting.com/design/new-evidence-bullet-points/ *Mark Levison* | Founder and Consultant - ...
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Tony Bruce
tony_bruce...
Oct 9, 2009 1:09 am
Apologies, I'm not down on books, didn't mean it to sound that way if it did. I read as much as I can, but I also use the other methods I mentioned.. I can't...
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Inanc Gumus
inanc_gumus
Oct 9, 2009 1:09 am
We are using help from test data builders to create nearly complex objects graphs. But when it's time come to persist them we are having difficulties. Domain: ...
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Srdjan Todorovic
srdjantodorovic
Oct 9, 2009 1:09 am
... How about a few single or dual core (or even old machines) chugging away with distcc? Allegedly distcc is very scalable so perhaps 10 old machines can cut ...