October 26, Sysart Hotspot in Helsinki ... Sysart organizes a seminar on Domain-Driven Design on Tuesday October 26th. In the morning Jimmy Nilsson will give a...
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Arnaud Bailly
arnaud.baillly
Oct 1, 2010 12:08 pm
Hello Michael, ... IMHO, IoC or Dependency Injection stems from the reverse thinking : "I want to test that behaviour so this thing should be a dependency that...
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Charlie@...
charlie11364
Oct 1, 2010 4:10 pm
Hi Gang, More questions, and I think I know the answer to this one I'm in the middle of an application that is going to use a custom written (by me <g>) custom...
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Alan Baljeu
alanbaljeu
Oct 1, 2010 4:25 pm
It depends on the complexity of the control, on the UI framework behind it, the way the control will be managed in its host window, etc. I think perhaps the...
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Charlie@...
charlie11364
Oct 1, 2010 4:59 pm
... Pretty much what I'm doing - the control is really doing no logic except being a dialog, and everything is down in a presenter (and as I said, that is...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Oct 1, 2010 5:44 pm
... For me the though process is something like: "In order to do X I must do Y, but I would like to drive the behavior of X before I worry about Y because...
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kalle anka
ankeborg5001
Oct 1, 2010 9:11 pm
Hi, I have been using nunit for testing my c# code. Has anyone used the built in features in VS (2010 or 2008) and used that framework for making the unit...
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roham Farahani
rohamfarahani
Oct 1, 2010 9:11 pm
all of the system is the classes then xunit test only is required for testing and also interconnection of classes. [Non-text portions of this message have been...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Oct 1, 2010 10:15 pm
MSTest is decidedly not better than using NUnit or XUnit, but it does work. I personally prefer to use NUnit from ReSharper. I have also had good success with...
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JeffGrigg
jeffgrigg63132
Oct 1, 2010 10:28 pm
... Dittos. MSTest is bad. It's slow. Using it will actively discourage you from doing Test-Driven Development. NUnit is good. xUnit is better. It corrects...
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silky
prob_not_sol
Oct 2, 2010 5:55 am
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:06 AM, George Dinwiddie ... [...] ... Something to *what*. There is no real statement there; it's only a subjective claim. ... No...
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JeffGrigg
jeffgrigg63132
Oct 2, 2010 11:15 am
... That's why I mock out the "nasty external systems that are difficult to control and test." In the stack of modules from the GUI to the Database... GUI - A...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Oct 2, 2010 4:44 pm
Tdd is how a developer can find a bug in some code he wrote a few seconds ago... How he can verify that a sweeping change across a bunch of code hasn't broken...
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Ken
kenno_mac
Oct 2, 2010 6:02 pm
Well, my view has always been that to get a quality system, the easiest way is to ensure the component parts are of high quality. (I think Toyota pioneered...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Oct 2, 2010 7:08 pm
... Not in my experience. ... So C was too large and now you're fixing it, splitting it into C and CPrime. Great! Good unit tests for C insure this refactoring...
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Sean Corfield
seancorfield
Oct 3, 2010 3:24 am
... I encourage teams I work with to maintain three sets of tests: * unit tests that exercise individual components (with mocks to deal with dependencies) *...
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Eb
amaeze77
Oct 3, 2010 7:41 pm
... Simply speaking a "tester" is a role that focuses on ensuring quality control. If you broaden this concept and speak about overall "Quality Assurance"...
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Gustavo Cebrian Garcia
gustavo_spain
Oct 3, 2010 7:43 pm
That is the tester role, The person who is going to be a tester, in my opinion should be a good analyst as well. Gustavo. ... [Non-text portions of this...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Oct 3, 2010 8:15 pm
IMO, the notion of a tester role, to begin with, is the problem. A person who is capable of filling this role is a game changing addition to any team. However,...
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Gustavo Cebrian Garcia
gustavo_spain
Oct 3, 2010 8:25 pm
You are right, to some extent, everyone should be a tester, everyone should be a analyst, everyone should analyze risks, etc, etc, etc, basically, having a...
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Donaldson, John (GEO)
geo_johnfr
Oct 4, 2010 12:07 am
Silky, ... It's unlikely that you try to exercise all the paths through your code from the top-level. That is in your acceptance/integration tests. The number...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Oct 4, 2010 3:36 am
... It is beginning to sound more and more like your objective is for you to fix their bad code instead of helping the team fix their bad code (and the causes...
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Donaldson, John (GEO)
geo_johnfr
Oct 4, 2010 6:18 am
Fredrik, I've used both and I like both. They both do the job of providing the framework for your unit tests. That said, there are some differences. The VS...
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Steven Smith
stevenator2
Oct 4, 2010 9:26 pm
I've implemented the same rule of "new bugs get tests that fail while the bug exists" as a way of introducing and adding to the tests in legacy projects. It...
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wwake2
Oct 6, 2010 9:10 pm
In Test-Driven Development: By Example, Kent Beck muses, "What if I got to rewrite everything I ever wrote 20 times? Would I keep finding insight and surprise...
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Roy Osherove
royosherove
Oct 9, 2010 10:04 pm
Hi Folks. I wanted to share with you the great news about Isolator++ being released. It's an Isolation (mocking) framework *for unmanaged C++* on the windows ...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Oct 10, 2010 3:57 am
... http://www.parasoft.com/jsp/products/cpptest.jsp The web pages don't emphasize this, but I've seen Parasoft allow testing of C "static" functions and...
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Roy Osherove
royosherove
Oct 10, 2010 8:59 am
FYI - 5 people have already applied. please do not send in any more emails. Roy. ... -- Thanks, Roy Osherove www.TypeMock.com - Unit Testing, Plain Smart ...
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Robert Lewis
rablewis
Oct 10, 2010 3:53 pm
It's good to see some decent TDD tools for C and C++. CppUTest also has basic support for mocking in C++. (http://www.cpputest.org/node/30) - Robert...
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carlosble
Oct 10, 2010 4:15 pm
Hi, Regarding the before/after question, I believe that we write tests/examples before the code to specify the behavior we want for our code. So we write the...