Hi Avi, Just wanted to give you some feedback on your email. The proposed solution seems very elegant and I might implement it! Thanks for the suggestion. ...
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avi_a@...
avinap77
Jun 3, 2011 6:19 am
Great, hope it works out. Best wishes, - Avi...
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gocif68
Jun 6, 2011 2:50 pm
Hello, thanks for your advices. I have sorted the methods in 2 groups : - first group, methods based on the fonctions of the application : FDD, TDD/ATDD,...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Jun 6, 2011 3:07 pm
... The majority of these methods are complementary to most of the other methods. Many of them are just a variation of another method. Keeping track of the...
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sam serpoosh
masih_jesus287
Jun 7, 2011 8:41 am
hi, I'm gonna focus more on the ATDD, BDD and TDD. in TDD you write unit tests in small scale and on the implementation details of the application(but never...
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gocif68
Jun 7, 2011 2:28 pm
Hello, thank you for your post which is relevant. Do you think that Feature Driven Development has something to do in the group FDD, TDD, ATDD, BDD ? Do you...
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Steven Gordon
sfman2k
Jun 7, 2011 3:53 pm
No, FDD is a full software development approach. It would be an alternative to XP or UP. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Jun 7, 2011 10:02 pm
Don't forget XXDD (executable example driven development). In Spanglish "Dos-Equis Driven Development". Brian Marick made up that one. -- C. Keith Ray ...
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sam serpoosh
masih_jesus287
Jun 8, 2011 9:19 am
... glad that it helped you;) I don't have deep knowledge about FDD but I know that it's a complete approach and can be used instead of XP or etc. so the ...
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gocif68
Jun 8, 2011 3:01 pm
Hello, I add XXDD to my list. In which group do you think it goes ? Do you have some information about that method (web link)? Thank...
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gocif68
Jun 8, 2011 3:04 pm
Hello, BDD, or Behaviour Driven Development, encompasses the whole software lifecycle. Therefore I don't understand the difference with FDD. I think it is a...
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Keith Ray
attkeithray
Jun 8, 2011 5:42 pm
XXDD is mentioned somewhere on Brian Marick's blog, but its name appears to have been coined by Alistair Cockburn. XXDD =...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Jun 9, 2011 6:44 am
I'm curious as to where all these definitions have come from since I don't recognise them. In particular, I've not heard before of ATDD being defined as...
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sam serpoosh
masih_jesus287
Jun 9, 2011 12:10 pm
... I first saw ATDD in one of Elizabeth Hendrickson(Extraordinary software testing guru) tweets and then read an article by her about it, I don't remember...
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Eb
amaeze77
Jun 9, 2011 12:37 pm
I like to think that there two (broad brush) categories of tests that now fall under the Test/Behavior Driven Development umbrella. Tests that drive how an...
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sam serpoosh
masih_jesus287
Jun 9, 2011 12:41 pm
... categories: one is about tests which drive the implementation of the system(like unit/micro tests) and other is about things which actually try to clarify...
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Joshua Kerievsky
jlk112067
Jun 9, 2011 12:42 pm
... The story of how we started doing what is now called ATDD is in an article here: http://industriallogic.com/papers/storytest.pdf The practice was mostly...
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Gian Franco Zabarino
gfzabarino
Jun 9, 2011 9:12 pm
Hi everybody, I've found my self in the following situation. I'm making a socket server, with a custom protocol. I'm using ByteBuffer with SocketChannel for...
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Rick Mugridge
rickmugridge
Jun 9, 2011 10:52 pm
If you're interested in Specification By Example, or Storytests, or ATDD, here's an article that looks at taking "legacy" automated tests (here for a web app),...
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Dale Emery
dhemery...
Jun 10, 2011 12:12 am
Hi Gian, ... That's a fine option. It does have the complication of introducing a mock (and perhaps a wrapper) for third-party code that's pretty basic. ... ...
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Kay
tranzpuppy
Jun 10, 2011 2:18 am
... <snip> ... <snip> ... I remember your talking about StoryTest when I took your XP class in 2002(?) And how much easier it was for the users to see...
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Rick Mugridge
rickmugridge
Jun 10, 2011 3:04 am
The latest on this is "Specification by Example" by Gojko Adzic, at ...
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Gian franco Zabarino
gfzabarino
Jun 10, 2011 4:38 am
Well, I think I'll go with choice #2. It's ok to mock things, but if you're not so much familiarized with the technology, then you can be in trouble. What...
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Michal Svoboda
michal.svoboda@...
Jun 10, 2011 5:21 am
... I think if you're inexperienced as you say then it would help to try it without using Mockito at all. You see, TDD is also about code design and and it has...
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Eb
amaeze77
Jun 10, 2011 2:28 pm
Hello everyone - I have infered (possibly incorrectly) from multiple sources that writing code with unit tests takes the same time (worst case) as writing code...
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Lior Friedman
friedmanlior
Jun 11, 2011 9:17 pm
Hi Eb, ... This link should contain many relevant case studies and real world experiments: http://biblio.gdinwiddie.com/ If you're looking for TDD data you...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Jun 11, 2011 11:52 pm
Eb, ... See http://biblio.gdinwiddie.com/biblio/StudiesOfTestDrivenDevelopment for the studies I know. ... Those anti-patterns generally produce bad tests....
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jeff@...
jlangr
Jun 12, 2011 1:37 am
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ... From: George Dinwiddie <lists@...> Sender: testdrivendevelopment@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:52:26 ...
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Eb
amaeze77
Jun 12, 2011 2:21 am
... I will check these out, thanks. ... Reduced where? What aspects of the development "process" drastically reduced? ... Sure, that is/will be done. But...
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Eb
amaeze77
Jun 12, 2011 2:28 am
Hi George, ... Thanks, I will definitely check this out. ... Now that's a very interesting observation. Thanks for that. ... -- blog:...
