Thanks for this- very interesting. I wonder whether any of these elements,
however, can exist in the real world. I'd been in touch recently with Prof.
Pyykko- he had pointed me to a link to his much earlier review paper.

Jess Tauber

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "rihanij" <rihanij@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> May I direct you to this new paper
<http://www.chem.helsinki.fi/~pyykko/pekka/PT.pdf>  by Pekka Pyykko, Department
of Chemistry, University of Helsinki, Finland, which was posted only recently on
the internet, and may I ask you to e-mail it to all our members for study and
comments. Thanks.
>
> With Best Regards,
>
>
> Jeries A. Rihani
>

Good exercise in extrapolation. How is it related to reality? Elements 139 and
140 fitted between 164 and 169 would not make Mendeleev happy.

Old rule of constructing periodic table on a basis of chemical properties will
not work in case of large values of atomic numbers, simply because such
properties, in many cases, can not be determined. Here comes need for electron
configurations, which played important role for fitting transition and rear
earth elements into the system. However, things are not so simple because of
such odd balls as Cu and Cr, for example.

I concluded some time ago that Periodic Table should not be based on description
of position of last electron added. Instead, it should be based only on two
parameters: atomic number Z and maximum value of n+l for each particular
element. Periodic table based on this simple rule is completely regular, it
reflects primary kinships accurately and retains all groups of elements in
reasonable order.

Valery Tsimmerman.


--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "JessT" <phonosemantics@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for this- very interesting. I wonder whether any of these elements,
however, can exist in the real world. I'd been in touch recently with Prof.
Pyykko- he had pointed me to a link to his much earlier review paper.
>
> Jess Tauber
>
> --- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "rihanij" <rihanij@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > May I direct you to this new paper
<http://www.chem.helsinki.fi/~pyykko/pekka/PT.pdf>  by Pekka Pyykko, Department
of Chemistry, University of Helsinki, Finland, which was posted only recently on
the internet, and may I ask you to e-mail it to all our members for study and
comments. Thanks.
> >
> > With Best Regards,
> >
> >
> > Jeries A. Rihani
> >
>

How about extrapolation? On one hand author of the article conducted extensive
Dirac-Fock calculations and extended periodic table beyond element 118.

Looking at this extended layout one can conclude that after element Ubn (120)
everything goes haywire. Perhaps, it is just another indication that the
Periodic Table stops at 120.

Also, look at last member 2nd group. It should be occupied by element 170,
according to the tetrahedral number rule that was described by Jess in his
message No. 40. All other members of 2nd group comply with this rule. Therefore,
by extrapolation it should be element 170.

What extrapolation is correct? The one that is based on Dirac-Fock calculations
or the one that is based on tetrahedral numbers?

I like the second one.

Valery

On the other hand things start to go haywire already before element 120, it
would seem. And, for those of you into pattern pressure, it looks as if
left-hand square numbers within half rows (at the Fib-preferred positions) are
doing something:

For the *expected* system, the 5g block begins at 121 for sq11, and then much
later 9s at 169, sq13. I don't know if 144 means anything- Pyykko says 144-154
finishes off the 6f row, but it doesn't have enough elements- and if 8p1/2 is at
139-140, we would expect 141 to start off the 6f row, that is unless 6f actually
begins in the 5g block, along with possibly also 7d. A mess. Other squares at
left half row margins are: 81, 64, 49.

Do we really know for sure that the elements from 104 to 113 have normal
electronic configurations? Remember that the neutral atomic configuration
doesn't necessarily reflect how the atom behaves in combination. Anyway not
enough pieces yet in the box to figure out how this particular jigsaw puzzle
looks when completed.

Jess Tauber

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "Valery" <orahct@...> wrote:
>
>
> How about extrapolation? On one hand author of the article conducted extensive
Dirac-Fock calculations and extended periodic table beyond element 118.
>
> Looking at this extended layout one can conclude that after element Ubn (120)
everything goes haywire. Perhaps, it is just another indication that the
Periodic Table stops at 120.
>
> Also, look at last member 2nd group. It should be occupied by element 170,
according to the tetrahedral number rule that was described by Jess in his
message No. 40. All other members of 2nd group comply with this rule. Therefore,
by extrapolation it should be element 170.
>
> What extrapolation is correct? The one that is based on Dirac-Fock
calculations or the one that is based on tetrahedral numbers?
>
> I like the second one.
>
> Valery
>

How La can be in f-block when it has no f-electrons in ground state. Not a
single f-electron! How about placement of He in conventional PT? What is it
doing in p-block with no p-electrons?

The bottom line is: for consistency sake, Periodic Table should neither be based
on position of electrons within atoms, nor on properties. Again, position of
elements shall be dictated only by Z and n+l, where n+l change marks end of
period and end of periods lined up.

Janet was right. I can see nothing else that would be more clear basis for the
periodic system. Without Z/n+l rule, the whole periodicity concept goes haywire.

V.T.

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "JessT" <phonosemantics@...> wrote:
>
> On the other hand things start to go haywire already before element 120, it
would seem. And, for those of you into pattern pressure, it looks as if
left-hand square numbers within half rows (at the Fib-preferred positions) are
doing something:
>
> For the *expected* system, the 5g block begins at 121 for sq11, and then much
later 9s at 169, sq13. I don't know if 144 means anything- Pyykko says 144-154
finishes off the 6f row, but it doesn't have enough elements- and if 8p1/2 is at
139-140, we would expect 141 to start off the 6f row, that is unless 6f actually
begins in the 5g block, along with possibly also 7d. A mess. Other squares at
left half row margins are: 81, 64, 49.
>
> Do we really know for sure that the elements from 104 to 113 have normal
electronic configurations? Remember that the neutral atomic configuration
doesn't necessarily reflect how the atom behaves in combination. Anyway not
enough pieces yet in the box to figure out how this particular jigsaw puzzle
looks when completed.
>
> Jess Tauber
>
> --- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "Valery" <orahct@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > How about extrapolation? On one hand author of the article conducted
extensive Dirac-Fock calculations and extended periodic table beyond element
118.
> >
> > Looking at this extended layout one can conclude that after element Ubn
(120) everything goes haywire. Perhaps, it is just another indication that the
Periodic Table stops at 120.
> >
> > Also, look at last member 2nd group. It should be occupied by element 170,
according to the tetrahedral number rule that was described by Jess in his
message No. 40. All other members of 2nd group comply with this rule. Therefore,
by extrapolation it should be element 170.
> >
> > What extrapolation is correct? The one that is based on Dirac-Fock
calculations or the one that is based on tetrahedral numbers?
> >
> > I like the second one.
> >
> > Valery
> >
>

In linguistics, there is a well-known phenomenon of 'metathesis', where part of
some word becomes switched positionally with the rest, with other nonaffixal
material intervening (many languages have 'infixes', such as those of the
Semitic family, like Arabic and Hebrew)- and at time such intervening material
is itself split an parts switched. So forms A and B, which are compounded and
*should* be AB, for example, become A' and A" parts, an B' and B" parts, then
finally arranged as A'B'A"B". This happens in Siouan languages, such as Lakota
(as seen in the film Dances with Wolves). If it happened in English, a word like
'cowboy' might end up as 'cobwoy'. Some historical linguistics believe
'butterfly' came from 'flutterby'.

Splitting by spin, with unusual filling orders, seems similar, in ways, to me. I
believe similar things happen quite often in the genome. Where else?

The explanation for languages is usually phonological- the prevailing prosodic
system involving intonation and stress among other features is given base forms
that are fine alone, but in combination for some reason create a tension that
can be resolved by the reordering of elements of those words. I don't know if
this type of thing happens with genomic elements, but tension is part of the
picture, in literal terms.

Is there an analogue within the periodic system? Or is it all just shifting
energy levels? Is there some kind of systemic pattern pressure we aren't yet
aware of? I've offered my hypotheses concerning squares, Lucas, Fib numbers and
their combinations, which show up far more often than you would expect. Does
this have some connection more directly to Pascal math?

Jess Tauber

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "Valery" <orahct@...> wrote:
>
> How La can be in f-block when it has no f-electrons in ground state. Not a
single f-electron! How about placement of He in conventional PT? What is it
doing in p-block with no p-electrons?
>
> The bottom line is: for consistency sake, Periodic Table should neither be
based on position of electrons within atoms, nor on properties. Again, position
of elements shall be dictated only by Z and n+l, where n+l change marks end of
period and end of periods lined up.
>
> Janet was right. I can see nothing else that would be more clear basis for the
periodic system. Without Z/n+l rule, the whole periodicity concept goes haywire.
>
> V.T.
>
> --- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "JessT" <phonosemantics@> wrote:
> >
> > On the other hand things start to go haywire already before element 120, it
would seem. And, for those of you into pattern pressure, it looks as if
left-hand square numbers within half rows (at the Fib-preferred positions) are
doing something:
> >
> > For the *expected* system, the 5g block begins at 121 for sq11, and then
much later 9s at 169, sq13. I don't know if 144 means anything- Pyykko says
144-154 finishes off the 6f row, but it doesn't have enough elements- and if
8p1/2 is at 139-140, we would expect 141 to start off the 6f row, that is unless
6f actually begins in the 5g block, along with possibly also 7d. A mess. Other
squares at left half row margins are: 81, 64, 49.
> >
> > Do we really know for sure that the elements from 104 to 113 have normal
electronic configurations? Remember that the neutral atomic configuration
doesn't necessarily reflect how the atom behaves in combination. Anyway not
enough pieces yet in the box to figure out how this particular jigsaw puzzle
looks when completed.
> >
> > Jess Tauber
> >
> > --- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "Valery" <orahct@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > How about extrapolation? On one hand author of the article conducted
extensive Dirac-Fock calculations and extended periodic table beyond element
118.
> > >
> > > Looking at this extended layout one can conclude that after element Ubn
(120) everything goes haywire. Perhaps, it is just another indication that the
Periodic Table stops at 120.
> > >
> > > Also, look at last member 2nd group. It should be occupied by element 170,
according to the tetrahedral number rule that was described by Jess in his
message No. 40. All other members of 2nd group comply with this rule. Therefore,
by extrapolation it should be element 170.
> > >
> > > What extrapolation is correct? The one that is based on Dirac-Fock
calculations or the one that is based on tetrahedral numbers?
> > >
> > > I like the second one.
> > >
> > > Valery
> > >
> >
>

Hope all of you are doing well. Some of you may have heard about the NASA
announcement about the Mono Lake bug that can substitute arsenic for phosphorus
in its DNA backbone.

TV commentators, some of which should know better, then spewed such nonsense as
that any element in the same column might do in biochemicals. Ignorance=bliss.

And I thought this was going to be about life in space. Shheeesh. I'm going to
go walk my pet Horta....

Jess Tauber

It is good to know that at least some bugs have backbones. NASA is now in a
business to make some people feel good about themselves. Space exploration is
their secondary goal.

Valery.

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "JessT" <phonosemantics@...> wrote:
>
> Hope all of you are doing well. Some of you may have heard about the NASA
announcement about the Mono Lake bug that can substitute arsenic for phosphorus
in its DNA backbone.
>
> TV commentators, some of which should know better, then spewed such nonsense
as that any element in the same column might do in biochemicals.
Ignorance=bliss.
>
> And I thought this was going to be about life in space. Shheeesh. I'm going to
go walk my pet Horta....
>
> Jess Tauber
>

Still, it is interesting that this works at all. We have good numbers of
substitutions that will work in terms of metals in metalloenzymes, alkali and
alkaline earth metals in solution, and various p-block elements for energy
extraction/redox. The list is growing. I just learned last week that cadmium
could substitute for zinc in certain organisms. But this is the first structural
substitution.

Jess Tauber

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "Valery" <orahct@...> wrote:
>
> It is good to know that at least some bugs have backbones. NASA is now in a
business to make some people feel good about themselves. Space exploration is
their secondary goal.
>
> Valery.
>
> --- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "JessT" <phonosemantics@> wrote:
> >
> > Hope all of you are doing well. Some of you may have heard about the NASA
announcement about the Mono Lake bug that can substitute arsenic for phosphorus
in its DNA backbone.
> >
> > TV commentators, some of which should know better, then spewed such nonsense
as that any element in the same column might do in biochemicals.
Ignorance=bliss.
> >
> > And I thought this was going to be about life in space. Shheeesh. I'm going
to go walk my pet Horta....
> >
> > Jess Tauber
> >
>

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101215133325.htm

Did they call it "new periodic table"?
It is not new. Its layout is at least 105 years old. It is representative of
inertia in science. All they did, updated atomic weights of 10 elements.
Big deal!

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "JessT" <phonosemantics@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101215133325.htm
>

Happy 2011! I've been delving a bit again into nuclear magic, and have come up
with a number of new things, some of which I'll post later.

For now, I just want to note that when I posted the content below back in
October, I pointed out Pauling's mention of two weak nuclear magic numbers at 88
and 152, which eerily were also twice 44 and 76, two of the three elements
capable of having the maximal oxidation state of +8, in the same chemical group.

While reading Wiki today, I noticed that Hassium, element 108, might also have
magic qualities-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_(physics)#Double_magic:

"In December 2006 hassium-270 (270Hs), with 108 protons and 162 neutrons, was
discovered by an international team of scientists led by the Technical
University of Munich having the unusually long half-life of 22 seconds.
Hassium-270 evidently forms part of an island of stability, and may even be
double magic."

Well, 108 is twice 54, the atomic number of Os, the OTHER element that can take
+8. Curious coincidence.....or IS it?

The neutron count, 162, is also a bit odd- 100xPhi, the Golden Ratio. Also twice
81, a square. And 200-38, where 38 is half 76. 162-18, another Lucas (and magic)
number, is 144. And, just for completeness, 162 is three times 54. So the
neutron to proton ratio is exactly 3 to 2, where both are equally Fib or Luc
numbers. 54 of course is twice 27, 3^3. Relevant? 54 is 200-146, where 146 is
123 (Luc)+23 (or 123-100).

Enough for now, more later.

Jess Tauber
phonosemantics@...

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "JessT" <phonosemantics@...> wrote:
>
> I was reading online Linus Pauling's notebooks (see
http://osulibrary.oregonstate.edu/specialcollections/rnb/), and was particularly
interested in sections dealing with the nuclear magic numbers.
>
> Two that don't appear in usual lists are his 'weak' magic numbers 88 and 152.
>
> 88 of course is an alkaline earth number, but not a Pascal tetrahedral number.
152 shows up in my modified system, where inert pair effects start mucking with
the mapping of Fib and Lucas numbers.
>
> 88 is 2x44, the atomic number of Ru, and 144-100, where 144 is square and Fib,
and 152 is 2x76, the atomic number of Os, and a Lucas number. You may recall
that Ru and Os are part of the same group in the PT, and are the only two
elements other than 54Xe that can take the max. +8 oxidation state.
>
> But there are also some other interesting things here: 152-88=64, a square.
And 88+32=120; 152-32 is also 120. There is a pattern. Obviously 32 is an
electronic magic number (and the nuclear magic numbers are based on these same
ones, by combinations of offset series after spin-based splitting of sets). But
instead of differences of 32 affecting only two periods (as with the electronic
system), here it can be applied across the entire series apparently:
184,152,120,88,56,24 (where 24Cr is the first aufbau anomaly). 184 and 120 are
'strong' nuclear magic numbers (the latter predicted for protons only). Is there
some sort of 'every-other' effect??
>
> I've found that other electronic magic numbers can also be 'held' constant and
applied this way, which is rather odd. Why should this work at all?
>
> PS: I got my paperwork back from the USPTO today- my new model is now 'patent
pending'.
>
> Jess Tauber
> phonosemantics@...
>

Jess,
I would like to add that Fe, that forms group with Ru, Os and Hs, although not
quite magic, has extremely stable nucleus and serves as the border line between
the elements that produce energy during nuclear fusion reaction and those that
require energy for nuclear fusion. That makes this element the final product of
star development, before they blow up and become super novae.

Also,
54 is atomic number of Xe, not Os.

Best,
Valery.

Yes, 54 is Xe. I've jumbled elements symbols vs. at.no.'s more than once. Like
HAL in 2001: A Space Odyssey, 'my mind is going'. Please stop pulling memory
chips, Dave!

As for iron, remember that nickel and iron tend to come together, and with 26Fe
and 28Ni, 27 is the average atomic number.

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "Valery" <orahct@...> wrote:
>
> Jess,
> I would like to add that Fe, that forms group with Ru, Os and Hs, although not
quite magic, has extremely stable nucleus and serves as the border line between
the elements that produce energy during nuclear fusion reaction and those that
require energy for nuclear fusion. That makes this element the final product of
star development, before they blow up and become super novae.
>
> Also,
> 54 is atomic number of Xe, not Os.
>
> Best,
> Valery.
>

By the way, Larry, good catch on the group membership. I hadn't any inkling when
I first posted.

I'm still examining proton and neutron counts in stable nuclei as well- for
example in Pb the neutron to proton ratio hovers around 3 to 2. Though not in
the stable set 205Pb has the exact 1.5 ratio, and interestingly its neutron
count is 123, Lucas. With magic 126 neutrons, the ratio is 1.54. The lowest
stable isotope, 204Pb, has a nucleon count which is 6x34, Fib.

Jess Tauber

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "JessT" <phonosemantics@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, 54 is Xe. I've jumbled elements symbols vs. at.no.'s more than once. Like
HAL in 2001: A Space Odyssey, 'my mind is going'. Please stop pulling memory
chips, Dave!
>
> As for iron, remember that nickel and iron tend to come together, and with
26Fe and 28Ni, 27 is the average atomic number.
>
> --- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "Valery" <orahct@> wrote:
> >
> > Jess,
> > I would like to add that Fe, that forms group with Ru, Os and Hs, although
not quite magic, has extremely stable nucleus and serves as the border line
between the elements that produce energy during nuclear fusion reaction and
those that require energy for nuclear fusion. That makes this element the final
product of star development, before they blow up and become super novae.
> >
> > Also,
> > 54 is atomic number of Xe, not Os.
> >
> > Best,
> > Valery.
> >
>

So, I've desperately been wracking my brains trying to work out a system for the
higher Fib-like series within the periodic system, trying this and that, every
which-way.

And something fell out of this search this morning. As I've written before, the
Fib-like series form a kind of matrix pattern, with Fib increments between
series cumulating to give the numbers of the later ones. The zero and first are
the Fibonacci series, just offset by one, then the second is Lucas. The third
doesn't seem to have any special name that I can find. Fib patterns to the left
half-orbital margins, Luc to the right, and the third goes to the midpoints of
the half orbitals as trends.

I was looking at this third series, whose numbers are
3,1,4,5,9,14,23,37,60,97... and seeing if I could find any pattern within
Left-Step periods. At first I was counting from the beginning of the next period
when it suddenly struck me that the numbers I was seeing, in the distances
backwards to individual half-orbital midpoints, were the Pascal triangular
numbers plus one. So, reworking to count back from the ends of periods, we get
the triangular numbers unmodified.

That is, if you start, say, at 120, and go left 0, you stay at 120. Go left 1,
you are at 119. 120 and 119 are the 'midpoints' in the 8th Left-Step period for
the s block, s2,s1.

Then if we move left from 120 3 steps left, we end up at 117, which is p5. 6
steps left from 120 is 114, p2. These are the half-orbital midpoints for the 7p
orbital.

10 steps left from 120 is 110, d8, 15 steps left from 120 is 105, d3. These are
the half-orbital midpoints for 6d.

21 steps left from 120 is 99, f11, and 28 steps left from 120 is 92, f4. And
these are the half-orbital midpoints for 5f.

One can do the same leftward count from any alkaline earth number, either from
earlier periods, or later. The intervals will always be triangular numbers.

In conversation with Valery minutes after I worked this out he noted that these
half-orbital midpoints were all where quantum number m sub l will be 0. In the
T3 version of the tetrahedral PT these numbers are all vertices of the angled
('skew') rings that make it up.

So now we have several Pascal relations to play with. We already knew about the
association of the alkaline earths with tetrahedral numbers (every other
number). Valery's modified Pascal triangle generates all the alkaline earth
numbers. Now we have triangular numbers counting back from the alkaline earth
numbers hitting the half-orbital midpoints, with m sub l equal to zero. And of
course the integers are related to Mendeleev's line, to the primary quantum
numbers, etc.

Sums of successive pairs of triangular numbers give squares, as do differences
between every other tetrahedral number- all related to period duals. Is there
something interesting going within orbitals having to do with squares, based on
the new findings?

Jess Tauber
phonosemantics@...

Great observation, Jess.

Just want to clarify that Jess is referring not to the Atomic Numbers, but to
the "Distances" from the ends of the periods of Janet's LSPT to the elements
that correspond to ml=0. Those distances equal triangular numbers that can be
found on third diagonal of Pascal triangle.

Jess mentioned also that in his angled ring model that he calls T3, the spheres
that correspond to those elements occupy vertexes of the angled rings. I would
like to add that in ADOMAH tetrahedral stack of spheres those elements
correspond to the red spheres that are located on the plane of symmetry of
ADOMAH tetrahedron corresponding to ml=0, as it could be seen on 3D Aufbau
Diagram presented at www.PerfectPeriodicTable.com/novelty. This image could be
also seen on one of the photos presented in the picture gallery that is part of
this forum.

Needless to say, none such numerical regularities would be ever discovered
without knowing about tetrahedral nature of the Periodic System. One day these
numerical regularities will result in scientific discovery that, I am  sure,
awaits atomic and subatomic physics.

Valery Tsimmerman
Jan 17, 2011.

I know that for myself, having the reference already to tetrahedral numbers and
the Phi-convergent series helped prime me to look for or notice such patterns as
the triangular numbers (which admittedly were a serendipitous development
falling out of a search for something completely different).

And one would never even think to search for such a thing using the traditional
table, since the s block position breaks everything up (and I think the
triangular number relation here is even more evidence that this table is just
'wrong' from the perspective of fundamentals, even if it does capture what may
turn out to be highly derivative behaviors rather well).

With the Janet Left-Step table, however, capturing the tetrahedral and
triangular number mappings becomes much more feasible. I don't think the 3D
tetrahedral systems make things very easy (at least not mine, unless you can
think multidimensionally, and we're rather linear thinkers). It would be
interesting to know how the tetrahedral models of Demers fare in this regard.
I've never looked.

Last night I checked out the pentatope numbers from Pascal- there IS a pattern
there relevant to the periodic system, but it is subtle. And I also have to go
look at the nucleon Aufbau to see whether there are anything like triangular or
pentatope relations there that can be teased out.

As to Pascal, and the summed samplings across diagonals that generate Fiblike
numbers- I looked at them also yesterday and discovered that PARTIAL samplings
also generate relevant numbers! And from that perspective even single numbers
relate as well, once you see the pattern. If one takes the system of
edge-modified Pascal triangles and lines them up in parallel, then you can make
new diagonals and sampling lines in 3D (and how many dimensions can we extend
this to?). These are equivalent to creating the matrix of Fiblike numbers such
that the first line is 0,1,1,2,3..., then 1,1,2,3,5... directly below and left
justified, then 2,1,3,4,7....., 3,1,4,5,9....., 4,1,5,6,11.... and so on. In
this matrix one also finds 'diagonal' relationships between numbers, often as
multiples or divisions of Fiblike numbers.

Much mirth here.

Jess Tauber
phonosemantics@...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110225091019.htm

Jess Tauber

Hi,

The Periodic System of the Elements and Periodic Tables based on it are still the base for research and systematization.

That this is relevant is my New bond theory,  based on my Periodic System with new modified quantum numbers. Here the Periodic Table is not only System for the Elements but System  and base for almost all known compounds an bond types.

In this New theory there are several new rules and new electronic structural schemes, which  cover all known bond types as: ionic  bond, covalent bond, metallic bond, Hydrogen bond, complex compound, hypervalent compounds and so on.

The link for site is https://sites.google.com/site/sciportal/

Aco,

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110314152919.htm

So, which quantum number codes for antennae?

JT

Classification of minerals, plants and animals predates the classification of
the chemical elements by 100 years or so. Idea of classification of chemical
elements was borrowed by early chemists from other branches of science. The
article illustrates the prominence achieved by the Periodic Table among other
classifications. Now other classification systems are trying to catch up.

Valery.

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "JessT" <phonosemantics@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110314152919.htm
>
> So, which quantum number codes for antennae?
>
> JT
>

Hi Jess

The following is a little off topic however I hope it is of interest to the
group.

The speed of light in a vacuum (c) is unique, it is assumed to be invariant.
Other velocities associated with special energies, may also be unique. The
Einstein tensor (Gìí) and the stress-energy tensor (Tìí) are related to special
velocities.

Please see;  http://specialvelocities.wikispaces.com/

Who can say what is still yet to be discovered? The other day people announced a
more precise value for the Hubble expansion of the universe- 73.8 (+/-2.4)
km/sec/megaparsec.  I asked if anyone could reformulate in terms of fundamental
Planck units of length and time- the answer was surprising (dunno if accurate,
though):

1.3 x 10^-61 times the Planck frequency

This starts to look like Golden Ratio related numbers- 1.38.. is 2-phi, and 61
resembles 100phi. Both of those numbers appear in many other phenomena. Go
figure. Never perfectly, but errors can indicate other structures- these things
don't happen in a vacuum, figuratively, though they do, literally.

Jess Tauber

--- In tetrahedronT3@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <chemguy777@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jess
>
> The following is a little off topic however I hope it is of interest to the
group.
>
> The speed of light in a vacuum (c) is unique, it is assumed to be invariant.
Other velocities associated with special energies, may also be unique. The
Einstein tensor (Gìí) and the stress-energy tensor (Tìí) are related to special
velocities.
>
> Please see;  http://specialvelocities.wikispaces.com/
>

The nuclear shell filling pattern can be idealized as blocks somewhat analogous
to what is seen in the electronic system, but organized differently.

Thus 1s+1p, followed by 2s/1d+2p/1f, then 3s/2d,1g+3p/2f/1h, and so on.

If the borders of don't mix between blocks, then the count values at the margins
will be fixed, while internally we may see unmixed or mixed values that
represent alternate pathways to completion.

What I found was that doubled triangular number recurred in intervals between
margin counts from different blocks. I can't find any reference to this in
online publications.

Intervals between nucleon numbers (again, in the idealized system outlined
above):

Rightmost-Rightmost

330-240= 90
249-168= 72
168-112= 56
112- 70= 42
  70- 40= 30
  40- 20= 20
  20-  8= 12
   8-  2=  6
   2-  0=  2
   0-  0=  0

These differences are twice the triangular numbers from Pascal's Triangle:
45,36,28,21,15,10,6,3,1,(0)

Leftmost-Rightmost

258-168= 90
184-112= 72
126- 70= 56
  82- 40= 42
  50- 20= 30
  28-  8= 20
  14-  2= 12
   6-  0=  6
   2-  0=  2
   0-  0=  0

Rightmost-Leftmost

330-258= 72
240-184= 56
168-126= 42
112- 82= 30
  70- 50= 20
  40- 28= 12
  20- 14=  6
   8-  6=  2
   2-  2=  0

The anomaly here is the Leftmost-Leftmost. In this case we have instead double
triangular numbers + 2. Three of four identical intervals, one differing by 2. 
Or perhaps a (3+1) system, as I've often touched upon.

If one draws arced connections between the pairs whose intervals are listed
above, one ends up with a kind of growing sinusoidal patterning. Jan Boeyens has
utilized a Golden Spiral in his work- and I'm wondering now whether this
sinusoid system, reworked over the spiral, might generate some interesting
results. What about in 3D, or higher?

Jess Tauber
phonosemantics@...

This is the Leftmost-Leftmost system, which is that of most of the magic numbers
that we usually think of in the nuclear system:

258- 184= 74= 72+2
184- 126= 58= 56+2
126-  82= 44= 42+2
  82-  50= 32= 30+2
  50-  28= 22= 20+2
  28-  14= 14= 12+2
  14-   6=  8=  6+2
   6-   2=  4=  2+2
   2-   0=  2=  0+2

14 is considered to be a semimagic number by some, as is 6. Magic numbers 8 and
20 belong to the Rightmost system.  The underlying numericity of the magic
number supersystem is obscured badly by simply glomming together these different
sets. The Rightmost system also includes 40 and 70, also considered by some to
be semimagic, 112 and 168. Now, 112 IS very close to the supposed magic number
114, in fact TWO different. That might or might not be significant. 168 is two
less than 170, which in the electronic system ends a Left-Step period.

2 and 0 are ambiguously Leftmost or Rightmost.

Jess Tauber
phonosemantics@...

Hi Jess. I am a little off topic again.
The Einstein Field Equation (EFE) may be simplified.  A tensor may be
substituted by a ratio of stress and a scalar may be substituted by a ratio of
power. A stress-power equation may represent the simplified EFE.
Please see;  https://sites.google.com/site/tensorsandscalars/

Rationalization of double triangular number differences between idealized
orbital filling benchmark numbers:


Level 0 [__0
diff.2
Level 1 [__2___0
diff 6
Level 2 [__8___6___2
diff 12
Level 3 [_20__18__14___8
diff 20
Level 4 [_40__38__34__28__20
diff 30
Level 5 [_70__68__64__58__50__40
diff 42
Level 6 [112_110_106_100__92__82__70
diff 56
Level 7 [168_166_162_156_148_138_126_112
diff 72
Level 8 [240_238_234_228_220_210_198_184_168

These again are all idealized, unmixed orbital patterns. The distances between
numbers in any one row and the row following is always the same double
triangular number thus 168-112=166-110=162-106= 56. The leftmost column consists
of double tetrahedral numbers, as do the rightmost members, which fall on the
diagonal. Because the left and right repeat, this is a kind of self-referential
or fractal pattern, and given that the Golden Ratio is part of the simplest such
fractal, and because I've found this with the electronic system, just as others
have found a Golden Ratio bias in the nuclear (N/P ratios as atomic number
increases), I'll be looking for DOUBLE Fibonacci, Lucas, and further series
along these lines within the nuclear system.

I've found online a number of different shell filling diagrams, some radically
different from each other. Partly due to theoretical issues injected into the
system. Aren't there simple experimentally determined lists of quantum identity
anywhere? Imagine if this type of situation existed with the electronic system!

Jess Tauber
phonosemantics@...