well, i don't have any experience with the classic texas black waxy clay
soils you've got, but grapes can thrive in a variety of soils at a
variety of pH's, provided the soil has a decent microbial life going.
Your best bet is to learn to graft, as the grapes you probably want to
grow (decent wine grapes) will struggle in your soil.  Grafting is quite
easy, though, and there are numberous books that describe the process.
My favorite is called The Grape Grower, by Lon Rombough.
Basically, you're going to want to use a grape like Champanel as a
rootstock, with whatever winegrape you prefer on top, such as cabernet,
merlot, etc..  You'll also want to try out some French-American hybrids,
such as Baco Noir or an old Texas favorite, Black Spanish (Lenoir) on
their own roots. This is what i typically do, as the european varieties
tend to be very suceptible to disease..  You'll need about one vine per
gallon of wine you intend to produce, although it will take 4 or 5 years
to get to that point.  You'll need a reliable irrigation system, too,
preferrably drip (which is easy to install), and of course some sort of
trellis system.

Here are some pertinent sites:

http://www.bunchgrapes.com
this is Lon Rombough's website. he sells cuttings at a reasonable rate.
he can also answer a lot of questions better than i can.

http://www.rakgrape.com/
double a vineyards in new york.  good prices on cuttings.

http://www.tandjenterprises.com/productslinks.htm
this is Thomas Giannou's organic products website.  he can be a huge
help in advising how to prepare soil over the winter and have a
successful planting.  His BioVam is a blend of live micorrhizal fungi
that do wonders in helping grapevines adapt to a variety of soil types
and effeciently use available soil nutrients.

Good Luck!

Adam



knikki wrote:

> i live in crowly just south of fort worth. what r the best grapes to
> grow for wine produciton. i have a 3/4 acre yard and black dirt. dont
> they like acid soil? is there a point in growing any? my brother lives
> to play around with wine making and im the gardener. how many vines
> does it take to get a decent amount of grapes?
>
>

i live in crowly just south of fort worth.  what r the best grapes to
grow for wine produciton. i have a 3/4 acre yard and black dirt.  dont
they like acid soil? is there a point in growing any? my brother lives
to play around with wine making and im the gardener. how many vines
does it take to get a decent amount of grapes?

i already wrote this but the email said to do it again..ahha
i live jsut south of fort worth, have a large yard and black dirt
will grapes grow for me? i thought they preferred acid soil but im
willing to try.  my brother lives to play with wine making and i love
to garden. i have read alot about growing grapes but it all seems
futile if they wont grow in black dirt. im talking black clay
underneath topsoil dirt :(

Does anybody have any Blanc du Bois  or Chambourcin.
I'm located 60 miles south of Dallas.

Send on e-mail or post messages.
Thanks Tony

I am looking to add more vines ( 40 or so) to my small vinyard, I
currently have 12 vines ( 2yr old )they haven't producted yet -
concord, Flame, Niagara and Thompson Seedless. The only ones that are
doing well are the Flame and Concord, the others are slow to extend
vines.

My question is this , I live in North Texas (Decatur area) and I want
to grow vines that will be successful in producing good wines. What
grapevines do I plant for this area?

Please respond by e-mail only at this time, my computer is having
issues allowing me to see the message board.

Thanks Tony

Hope this helps!
   Michel

"Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@...> wrote:
   CC: "wrd2563" <wrd2563@...>
From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@...>
Subject: Re: [texasgrapes] looking for some old varieties
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:14:35 -0700
To: Michel White <grapeseek@...>

Hi Michel:
This came up on the Grapebreeders list. The only place I know of, for
certain, that has these two varieties is the Munson Memorial Vineyard
at Denison, TX.
-Lon
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at
http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association
"Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
On Aug 17, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Michel White wrote:

Lon,
I will soon be publishing the grapesperstate pages again as a reference
for what grapes grow in what areas but can you take a look at this
message for the grower who is looking for varietal advice if you have a
chance?
M

wildtrout@... wrote:
> To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
> From: wildtrout@...
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:00:15 -0700
> Subject: RE: [texasgrapes] looking for some old varieties
>
> Wish I could help you. Unfortunately this is a very slow site.
>
> Somebody jump in here!
>
> Jim Swayze
> www.fireholecanyon.com
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [texasgrapes] looking for some old varieties
> > From: "wrd2563"
> > Date: Mon, August 14, 2006 11:04 pm
> > To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > i am in the San Antonio area and am trying to start a small
> vineyard. i
> > am looking for some old munson varieties, namely the Elvican and the
> > Valhala. i understand they were developed from the mustang at the
> turn
> > of the century. also if anyone has some advise on the varieties to
> > start with i am all ears.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
>
>


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Dunno much about any place other than Grayson that might have Munson
cuttings available, but both of these are available from the USDA repository
at UC-Davis in CA:

    http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/search.pl?accid=elvicand

    http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/acc/search.pl?accid=valhallah

You can order the cuttings (you'll probably get only 5 or so of each) via:

    http://www.ars-grin.gov/npgs/orders.html

Hope this helps.

-Jim Ward-
Eno River Vineyards
Durham, NC

-----Original Message-----
From: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of wildtrout@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:00 PM
To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [texasgrapes] looking for some old varieties

Wish I could help you.  Unfortunately this is a very slow site.

Somebody jump in here!

Jim Swayze
www.fireholecanyon.com


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [texasgrapes] looking for some old varieties
> From: "wrd2563" <wrd2563@...>
> Date: Mon, August 14, 2006 11:04 pm
> To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello:
>
>  i am in the San Antonio area and am trying to start a small vineyard. i
>  am looking for some old munson varieties, namely the Elvican and the
>  Valhala. i understand they were developed from the mustang at the turn
>  of the century. also if anyone has some advise on the varieties to
>  start with i am all ears.
>
>  David
>
>



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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [texasgrapes] looking for some old varieties
> From: "wrd2563" <wrd2563@...>
> Date: Mon, August 14, 2006 11:04 pm
> To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello:
>
>  i am in the San Antonio area and am trying to start a small vineyard. i
>  am looking for some old munson varieties, namely the Elvican and the
>  Valhala. i understand they were developed from the mustang at the turn
>  of the century. also if anyone has some advise on the varieties to
>  start with i am all ears.
>
>  David
>
>

Hello:

i am in the San Antonio area and am trying to start a small vineyard. i
am looking for some old munson varieties, namely the Elvican and the
Valhala. i understand they were developed from the mustang at the turn
of the century. also if anyone has some advise on the varieties to
start with i am all ears.

David

Very interesting. I would be interested in hearing how each does. Thanks for
letting me know,

:)
Rory,

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: yella99gt
   To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:36 AM
   Subject: [texasgrapes] Re: Please take a moment to support Texasgrapes!


   Rory,

   I have 100 tempranillo vines on 1103P that were planted this spring.
   It's too early to tell how they will do. I'm expecting good things
   from them though. I'm located just south of Bonham.

   Malbec and Mourvedre were also planted at the same time. Of the 3
   the Mourvedre have the most vigor and are showing the most promise.

   I'm working with cuttings of Carnelian, Tanant, Viognier, Petit
   Manseng, and a few other warm weather vines that will go in this fall.

   Jeff

   --- In texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com, "Rory K. Young" <rkyoung@...>
   wrote:
   >
   > Well, on the same thought, I'd like to hear about someone's
   adventures growing Tempranillo here in Texas. I bet that would be a
   stellar grape for the area, if it could live through our diseases.
   >
   > Rory,
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: wildtrout@...
   > To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:06 PM
   > Subject: RE: [texasgrapes] Please take a moment to support
   Texasgrapes!
   >
   >
   > Anybody have experience in Texas with some of the warmer weather
   > vinifera grapes like sangiovese or tempranillo?
   >
   > Jim Swayze
   > www.fireholecanyon.com
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> Jim and Rory,
>  BOTH of your websites are really nice!
>  Well done,
>  Michel

Aw shucks.

Jim Swayze
www.fireholecanyon.com

Jim and Rory,
   BOTH of your websites are really nice!
   Well done,
   Michel

"Rory K. Young" <rkyoung@...> wrote:
           Well, thanks, really. John was a bit of a friend back before he died.
I keep the website around to pay honor to his friendship.
Much appreciated.

Rory,

----- Original Message -----
From: wildtrout@...
To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: [texasgrapes] Re: Please take a moment to support Texasgrapes!

Well, first of all, any guy who's as big a fan of John Denver as I am is
ok in my book. Nice website.

I too had a melted popsicle cab last night. Yuck.

Jim Swayze
www.fireholecanyon.com

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Rory,

I have 100 tempranillo vines on 1103P that were planted this spring.
It's too early to tell how they will do.  I'm expecting good things
from them though.  I'm located just south of Bonham.

Malbec and Mourvedre were also planted at the same time.  Of the 3
the Mourvedre have the most vigor and are showing the most promise.

I'm working with cuttings of Carnelian, Tanant, Viognier, Petit
Manseng, and a few other warm weather vines that will go in this fall.

Jeff

--- In texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com, "Rory K. Young" <rkyoung@...>
wrote:
>
> Well, on the same thought, I'd like to hear about someone's
adventures growing Tempranillo here in Texas. I bet that would be a
stellar grape for the area, if it could live through our diseases.
>
> Rory,
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: wildtrout@...
>   To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:06 PM
>   Subject: RE: [texasgrapes] Please take a moment to support
Texasgrapes!
>
>
>   Anybody have experience in Texas with some of the warmer weather
>   vinifera grapes like sangiovese or tempranillo?
>
>   Jim Swayze
>   www.fireholecanyon.com
>
>
>
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Well, thanks, really. John was a bit of a friend back before he died. I keep the
website around to pay honor to his friendship.
Much appreciated.

Rory,

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: wildtrout@...
   To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:46 AM
   Subject: RE: [texasgrapes] Re: Please take a moment to support Texasgrapes!


   Well, first of all, any guy who's as big a fan of John Denver as I am is
   ok in my book. Nice website.

   I too had a melted popsicle cab last night. Yuck.

   Jim Swayze
   www.fireholecanyon.com





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I think so, as well.... we've all got sun. Temperature can play a part, but I
think that soil and winemaking skills are important.
Of course, there's as much discussion on them as anything.

Please feel free to elaborate, I'm always interested. Thanks,


Rory,


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Michel White
   To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:17 AM
   Subject: Re: [texasgrapes] Re: Please take a moment to support Texasgrapes!


   Rory,
   I think a lot of it has to do with the soil....especially after having spoken
with the famous Dr. Loosen in Germany who makes probably the best Rieslings in
the world.
   I'll write you back later today,
   Michel

   "Rory K. Young" <rkyoung@...> wrote:
   Not to worry, I've got this set to bring email into a TexasGrapes folder
whenever people post.
   So I'm fine with the volume of communication. Let it grow, like a vine, at
it's own rate.
   Thanks for the feedback; much appreciated!

   BTW, had a Calif cab sauv this evening, very... fruity!?!, almost sweet, if
that's possible. I wonder if that's attibuted to the quality of the grapes when
picked, or to the winemaker... the bottle was a pretty cheap bottle at the local
store, so I thought I'd give it a try. Not a bad wine by any means, but
certainly not indicative of a "traditional" cab sauv. Almost like they tried a
different approach to the winemaking.

   :)
   Rory,

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Michel White
   To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:51 PM
   Subject: [texasgrapes] Re: Please take a moment to support Texasgrapes!

   Rory and Jim,
   I hope you'll stick around here and watch this group grow, because
   they always do when the moderator cares...but if you want answers
   right away to your questions you'll get them probably immediately at
   growgrapes or grapesrus which are the two main groups.
   My experience until now has been with the northeast and with the
   varieties of western europe, particularly Germany and France.
   Best regards,
   Michel

   --- In texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com, "Rory K. Young" <rkyoung@...>
   wrote:
   >
   > Well, on the same thought, I'd like to hear about someone's
   adventures growing Tempranillo here in Texas. I bet that would be a
   stellar grape for the area, if it could live through our diseases.
   >
   > Rory,
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: wildtrout@...
   > To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:06 PM
   > Subject: RE: [texasgrapes] Please take a moment to support
   Texasgrapes!
   >
   >
   > Anybody have experience in Texas with some of the warmer weather
   > vinifera grapes like sangiovese or tempranillo?
   >
   > Jim Swayze
   > www.fireholecanyon.com
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
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Rory,
   I think a lot of it has to do with the soil....especially after having spoken
with the famous Dr. Loosen in Germany who makes probably the best Rieslings in
the world.
   I'll write you back later today,
   Michel

"Rory K. Young" <rkyoung@...> wrote:
           Not to worry, I've got this set to bring email into a TexasGrapes
folder whenever people post.
So I'm fine with the volume of communication. Let it grow, like a vine, at it's
own rate.
Thanks for the feedback; much appreciated!

BTW, had a Calif cab sauv this evening, very... fruity!?!, almost sweet, if
that's possible. I wonder if that's attibuted to the quality of the grapes when
picked, or to the winemaker... the bottle was a pretty cheap bottle at the local
store, so I thought I'd give it a try. Not a bad wine by any means, but
certainly not indicative of a "traditional" cab sauv. Almost like they tried a
different approach to the winemaking.

:)
Rory,

----- Original Message -----
From: Michel White
To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:51 PM
Subject: [texasgrapes] Re: Please take a moment to support Texasgrapes!

Rory and Jim,
I hope you'll stick around here and watch this group grow, because
they always do when the moderator cares...but if you want answers
right away to your questions you'll get them probably immediately at
growgrapes or grapesrus which are the two main groups.
My experience until now has been with the northeast and with the
varieties of western europe, particularly Germany and France.
Best regards,
Michel

--- In texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com, "Rory K. Young" <rkyoung@...>
wrote:
>
> Well, on the same thought, I'd like to hear about someone's
adventures growing Tempranillo here in Texas. I bet that would be a
stellar grape for the area, if it could live through our diseases.
>
> Rory,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wildtrout@...
> To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:06 PM
> Subject: RE: [texasgrapes] Please take a moment to support
Texasgrapes!
>
>
> Anybody have experience in Texas with some of the warmer weather
> vinifera grapes like sangiovese or tempranillo?
>
> Jim Swayze
> www.fireholecanyon.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS Home and gardens Better homes and gardens Home
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>
> b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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Well, first of all, any guy who's as big a fan of John Denver as I am is
ok in my book. Nice website.

I too had a melted popsicle cab last night.  Yuck.

Jim Swayze
www.fireholecanyon.com

Not to worry, I've got this set to bring email into a TexasGrapes folder
whenever people post.
So I'm fine with the volume of communication. Let it grow, like a vine, at it's
own rate.
Thanks for the feedback; much appreciated!

BTW, had a Calif cab sauv this evening, very... fruity!?!, almost sweet, if
that's possible. I wonder if that's attibuted to the quality of the grapes when
picked, or to the winemaker... the bottle was a pretty cheap bottle at the local
store, so I thought I'd give it a try. Not a bad wine by any means, but
certainly not indicative of a "traditional" cab sauv. Almost like they tried a
different approach to the winemaking.

:)
Rory,



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Michel White
   To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:51 PM
   Subject: [texasgrapes] Re: Please take a moment to support Texasgrapes!


   Rory and Jim,
   I hope you'll stick around here and watch this group grow, because
   they always do when the moderator cares...but if you want answers
   right away to your questions you'll get them probably immediately at
   growgrapes or grapesrus which are the two main groups.
   My experience until now has been with the northeast and with the
   varieties of western europe, particularly Germany and France.
   Best regards,
   Michel

   --- In texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com, "Rory K. Young" <rkyoung@...>
   wrote:
   >
   > Well, on the same thought, I'd like to hear about someone's
   adventures growing Tempranillo here in Texas. I bet that would be a
   stellar grape for the area, if it could live through our diseases.
   >
   > Rory,
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: wildtrout@...
   > To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:06 PM
   > Subject: RE: [texasgrapes] Please take a moment to support
   Texasgrapes!
   >
   >
   > Anybody have experience in Texas with some of the warmer weather
   > vinifera grapes like sangiovese or tempranillo?
   >
   > Jim Swayze
   > www.fireholecanyon.com
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > SPONSORED LINKS Home and gardens Better homes and gardens Home
   and garden decor
   > Home and gardens magazine Water gardening Gardening
   >
   >
   > ----------------------------------------------------------
   -----------
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   >
   > a.. Visit your group "texasgrapes" on the web.
   >
   > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
   > texasgrapes-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
   >
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Rory and Jim,
I hope you'll stick around here and watch this group grow, because
they always do when the moderator cares...but if you want answers
right away to your questions you'll get them probably immediately at
growgrapes or grapesrus which are the two main groups.
My experience until now has been with the northeast and with the
varieties of western europe, particularly Germany and France.
Best regards,
Michel

--- In texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com, "Rory K. Young" <rkyoung@...>
wrote:
>
> Well, on the same thought, I'd like to hear about someone's
adventures growing Tempranillo here in Texas. I bet that would be a
stellar grape for the area, if it could live through our diseases.
>
> Rory,
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: wildtrout@...
>   To: texasgrapes@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:06 PM
>   Subject: RE: [texasgrapes] Please take a moment to support
Texasgrapes!
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Well, on the same thought, I'd like to hear about someone's adventures growing
Tempranillo here in Texas. I bet that would be a stellar grape for the area, if
it could live through our diseases.

Rory,

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I purchased it from Lon and I have no idea of these features.  I'll
see how it does and hope for the best.

What varieties do you currently have?

Dave


On Jun 4, 2006, at 10:37 PM, Rory K. Young wrote:

> I'm in Collin County, as well. Please, what is this Rombough
> variety of grape? Was this developed by Lon? Red/White? Clay soil
> adaptable? Hybrid, cross, etc? Lineage? PD-tolerant (the big
> question!).
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> Thanks!
>
> Rory,

It sure is Lon's Rory!
   You can see the basic description at
   http://bunchgrapes.com/varieties.html
   Michel

"Rory K. Young" <rkyoung@...> wrote:
   I'm in Collin County, as well. Please, what is this Rombough variety of grape?
Was this developed by Lon? Red/White? Clay soil adaptable? Hybrid, cross, etc?
Lineage? PD-tolerant (the big question!).

Thanks!

Rory,

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   Hello,

   I'm new to this list and new to grape growing.  I'm in Collin Co and
   growing Interlaken, Reliance, Black Spanish, Remaily, Rombough,
   Venus, Christmas, and Long John.  I have so many different varieties
   for the different ripening times and colors.  There is something for
   everyone in the family.

   This is my first year, so I'm not sure which ones will do well.

   Dave


   On Jun 2, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Michel White wrote:

   > I'd love to know which varieties all 'yall are growin'....(smile)
   >
   > Please take a moment to reply and list them.
   > Gracias,
   > Michel White




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I'm in Collin County, as well. Please, what is this Rombough variety of grape?
Was this developed by Lon? Red/White? Clay soil adaptable? Hybrid, cross, etc?
Lineage? PD-tolerant (the big question!).

Thanks!

Rory,

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   Hello,

   I'm new to this list and new to grape growing.  I'm in Collin Co and
   growing Interlaken, Reliance, Black Spanish, Remaily, Rombough,
   Venus, Christmas, and Long John.  I have so many different varieties
   for the different ripening times and colors.  There is something for
   everyone in the family.

   This is my first year, so I'm not sure which ones will do well.

   Dave


   On Jun 2, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Michel White wrote:

   > I'd love to know which varieties all 'yall are growin'....(smile)
   >
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   > Gracias,
   > Michel White




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David,
   It will be interesting to hear about how your vines do...and compare our
   Long Johns...no pun intended.

   If you get some cuttings this year, maybe we can swap or something.
   Welcome to the group!
   Michel White

David Pierce <dave.pierce924@...> wrote:
   Hello,

I'm new to this list and new to grape growing.  I'm in Collin Co and
growing Interlaken, Reliance, Black Spanish, Remaily, Rombough,
Venus, Christmas, and Long John.  I have so many different varieties
for the different ripening times and colors.  There is something for
everyone in the family.

This is my first year, so I'm not sure which ones will do well.

Dave


On Jun 2, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Michel White wrote:

> I'd love to know which varieties all 'yall are growin'....(smile)
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> Gracias,
> Michel White




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Hello,

I'm new to this list and new to grape growing.  I'm in Collin Co and
growing Interlaken, Reliance, Black Spanish, Remaily, Rombough,
Venus, Christmas, and Long John.  I have so many different varieties
for the different ripening times and colors.  There is something for
everyone in the family.

This is my first year, so I'm not sure which ones will do well.

Dave


On Jun 2, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Michel White wrote:

> I'd love to know which varieties all 'yall are growin'....(smile)
>
> Please take a moment to reply and list them.
> Gracias,
> Michel White

I'd love to know which varieties all 'yall are growin'....(smile)

Please take a moment to reply and list them.
Gracias,
Michel White

Anybody have experience in Texas with some of the warmer weather
vinifera grapes like sangiovese or tempranillo?

Jim Swayze
www.fireholecanyon.com

Hi!
   What variety of grapes are they?

   What are you using right now to support them or are they on the ground?

   Will you be building a wood arbor?  I saw some really neat arbors in New
Brunswick, Canada a long time ago built out of rough cedar in sort of chinese
kind of design...I'll try to dig up the photos.

   Best regards from 'Lanta,
   Michel

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and absolutely no grape info.  I live in East Texas and have planted grapes
to eventually build a grape arbor among the vines.