Hi Boon Leng!
Fun to see, the buds finally opened! (I visited Boon Leng 4-5 days ago). Thank
you so much for all help and for showing us around.
Can you please measure the diameter of the corolla, made flat?
We found of same species 4 different clones, on one of our cuttings we also had
buds and only one opened, the rest fell of.

Torill

Gee, Dom.  Don't know what to say.  I know that Joni grows it well in
FLorida...  Others?  Whatever you are doing, why don't you do the reverse?
I do keep mine NOT dry.....  Contrary critters, eh?

3 leaves in a pot that hasnt moved for 3 years here Carol....

I had heard that H. patella preferred cool temps...and it wasn't until I
gave up giving it cool and I gave it high indirect light and lots of warmth
did I become very successful with it.  I have grown huge pots of it and
simply love it!!!  Go figgetr!

Antone, it's fabulous to see how these clones of H. endauensis are doing
mounted!

They did form a clump of leaves in its natural habitat, no matter if they were
attached to a trunk or just hanging in the air - definitely a heaven for ants.

Delighted to see that the leaf edges do differ in cultivation at your site too.
Which NS-number are these two?

You are welcome - that info is required to know what environment it prefers
since it is not one of the easiest to grow.

Mark, I have not seen H. patella in its natural habitat in PNG (yet?) so I can
not say if it has similar cultivation requirements. However H. patella is
claimed to be a cool grower so if that is the fact and you are successful with
it then H. megalantha should be fine.

People in Sweden report that Ted's clone (ie. the one from Taveuni that I lost)
is more difficult to grow than mine from Viti Levu.
Would be interesting to know if others have the opposite experience!

I hope to encounter H. patella during my survey work in PNG, then I can tell you
for sure, Mark.


--- In thestemmaforum@yahoogroups.com, "mark" <markroy68@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Nathalie! Good to have that information. I have cooler conditions than
most here in SF, and have been wanting to try growing megalantha. I have a plant
of Hoya patella that does very well, am I correct in thinking that these plants
have similar cultivation requirements?
>

Antone, those are great. Nice to see endauensis growing that way- I have a small
plant of it that I grow on a small trellis- but it really has much more impact
when grown on a mount as you have done.

Antone...thanks so much for posting those pictures...they're absolutely
gorgeous.  I never would have guessed that hoyas could look that fabulous when
mounted.  Thanks again!

I've always wondered why some plants adapt to alternate seasons when they are
moved from one hemisphere to the other, and others don't.
  Hoya don't seem to. All of the seasonally blooming Hoya I have fro the southern
hemisphere bloom at the same time of the calender year they do in the southern
hemisphere. I know that from talking to David Liddle and some other Aussie
growers, and also looking at the descriptions of bloom cycle from more modern
botanical texts.
  Some Hoya that have definite seasonal blooming preferences are those from the
southern-most portion of their distribution, in New Guinea and Australia. Hoyas
austalis ssp. australis, calycina, magnifica, albiflora, macgillivrayi,
onychoides, archboldiana, off the top of my head, all seem to bloom heavily in
Australia's/ New Guinea's spring and the northern hemisphere's fall, at the same
time of the calender year.
  I'd be curious to know if it works the other way too- if for instance Hoya
bella, Hoya lanceolata, and Hoya serpens, all of which bloom in their homes in
the northern hemisphere (in or near the Himalayan foothills and down to northern
Thailand) in their summer, bloom in Australia's summer or winter.

I'm more or less on the same latitude as Florida, and I notice that many of the
same hoya species flower there at the same time as here in the Canaries. Do the
same species flower on much different latitudes at the same time, say in the
southern hemisphere, whist they are flowering at the same time in the northern
hemisphere, ie, if they are autumnal flowerers here, are they spring flowerers
there ( same month but different season ), or do they too wait for autumn?

Dominic

I'm more or less on the same latitude as Florida, and I notice that many of the
same hoya species flower there at the same time as here in the Canaries. Do the
same species flower on much different latitudes at the same time, say in the
southern hemisphere, whist they are flowering at the same time in the northern
hemisphere, ie, if they are autumnal flowerers here, are they spring flowerers
there ( same month but different season ), or do they too wait for autumn?

Dominic

p.s. sorry for my poor conversion skills. 2 1/2"= 7cm, and 3" is about 8cm, duh.

I forgot- I've already done some research on this plant. This is more similar to
Hoya albiflora than magnifica, the flowers are a lot bigger and the leaves
longer and larger overall than those of Hoya magnifica. Also, the corona and
sepals are distinct.
  I asked David Liddle about this plant once, and he opined that this was an
undescribed species, distinct from his Hoya albiflora. In looking at the
details, I see only very minor differences of the corolla aspect to distinguish
this plant from David's illustrations of Hoya albiflora, so I am not sure I buy
that they are different enough to warrant their being classed as two distinct
species. I suspect more like two different collections of the same species.
  When I have photographed the floral parts of this plant, I will post comparison
shots (with Hoya magnifica and other shots of Hoya albiflora)here on the forum.
  The flowers are really enormous- they sort of shocked me when I first saw them.
They are way bigger than Hoya magnifica, more on par with the larger flowered
clones of Hoya macgillivrayi, which I gather can reach almost 3" (5cm) across.

Thanks Nathalie! Good to have that information. I have cooler conditions than
most here in SF, and have been wanting to try growing megalantha. I have a plant
of Hoya patella that does very well, am I correct in thinking that these plants
have similar cultivation requirements?

Hello Nathalie,

It is really very kind to you to make us share your discoveries and to explain
us natural environment in which you discovered the hoyas of Fidji.

I like knowing the short history of every hoya, it returns them even more
charming. And nothing is more sad than to see a hoya withering because it has no
good conditions of culture.

Thank you very much.

Sylvine

--- In thestemmaforum@yahoogroups.com, "nadhanielle" <hoya.nathalie@...> wrote:
>
> I thought I'd drop some lines about this amazing species.
>
> Both clones of H. megalantha, ie. mine and Ted's, are cool montane beauties.
>
> I found both on Fiji islands but one of them did not make it. Luckily Ted
found it again when I explained to him where it grew, so he could re-collect it.
This is the one called "Ted's clone".
>
> On Fiji I saw only H. australis, H. diptera and H. vitiensis from sea level up
to about 1000 metres altitude. (a little more than 3000 ft I think)
>
> Only above 1000 m, away from the heat, you could see the rare H. megalantha
growing in trees, misted by clouds every day, giving a cool moist climate.
>
> For some, including me, Ted's clone is a much slower grower than my clone.
>
> Both seem to be very sensitive to long periods of heat, and long period of
drought. Temporary heat waves and droughts are acceptable but they may drop a
lot of young leaves.
>
> They prefer an even moist environment and cool temperatures to grow optimally.
In its habitat, it is about 20 degrees Celsius at daytime, and 10-15 at night.
(At sea level it is about 30 degrees Celsius.)
>
> Both clones seem to be tricky to root if not given the right conditions. Once
established it is much more robust, yet avoid heat and drought for long time.
>
> Nice to see the photo of Antone's specimen in cultivation, it has a more paler
colour than seen in Fiji. I remember the wonderful scent and do I agree with
Antone.
>
> My clone's flowers are up to 2 inches wide and paler. It produces a similar
scent to Ted's clone, very sweet and pleasant.
>
> I love this species for its small plant size bearing enormous flowers with a
wonderful scent. A superb combination!
>
>
> /Nathalie
>
>
>
> --- In thestemmaforum@yahoogroups.com, "mark" <markroy68@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Antone- how exactly is this plant sensitive to temperatures? It is a coo
grower, I think you're saying?
> >
>

I thought I'd drop some lines about this amazing species.

Both clones of H. megalantha, ie. mine and Ted's, are cool montane beauties.

I found both on Fiji islands but one of them did not make it. Luckily Ted found
it again when I explained to him where it grew, so he could re-collect it. This
is the one called "Ted's clone".

On Fiji I saw only H. australis, H. diptera and H. vitiensis from sea level up
to about 1000 metres altitude. (a little more than 3000 ft I think)

Only above 1000 m, away from the heat, you could see the rare H. megalantha
growing in trees, misted by clouds every day, giving a cool moist climate.

For some, including me, Ted's clone is a much slower grower than my clone.

Both seem to be very sensitive to long periods of heat, and long period of
drought. Temporary heat waves and droughts are acceptable but they may drop a
lot of young leaves.

They prefer an even moist environment and cool temperatures to grow optimally.
In its habitat, it is about 20 degrees Celsius at daytime, and 10-15 at night.
(At sea level it is about 30 degrees Celsius.)

Both clones seem to be tricky to root if not given the right conditions. Once
established it is much more robust, yet avoid heat and drought for long time.

Nice to see the photo of Antone's specimen in cultivation, it has a more paler
colour than seen in Fiji. I remember the wonderful scent and do I agree with
Antone.

My clone's flowers are up to 2 inches wide and paler. It produces a similar
scent to Ted's clone, very sweet and pleasant.

I love this species for its small plant size bearing enormous flowers with a
wonderful scent. A superb combination!


/Nathalie



--- In thestemmaforum@yahoogroups.com, "mark" <markroy68@...> wrote:
>
>
> Antone- how exactly is this plant sensitive to temperatures? It is a coo
grower, I think you're saying?
>

Antone- how exactly is this plant sensitive to temperatures? It is a coo grower,
I think you're saying?

Hello everyone in the Houston area!!

Just wanted to let you know of an event coming up at Mercer Arboretum
in thier meeting room. Its called "A Day of Epiphytes". Rudi Dorsch
will give a talk on epiphyllum. Donna McGraw from the gulf coast fern
society will lecture on ferns. John Jamerlan from the Houston Orchid
society will lecture on orchids. Dawn Morris will lecture on Hoya. The
date is Saturday Oct 17th--10 am to 1 pm. There will be door prizes and
no charge for admission. There will be epis and hoya for sale.


Hope to see you there