Mark,

I was trying to make a photo album, but it seems that each one holds 5
pictures. Am I doing something wrong or is that the case? Is there any
way to add more than 5 pics or is it just a yahoo thing?

Thanks,
Gabi

P.S. great job on the forum!

Hi Julia, and congrats on the new place and the buds!
  How are the new digs? And how did the Hoya fare in the move?

Lin...while that is a great idea (to list all the hoyas with pictures
and give their culture habits, whether to hang them or let them climb
etc. it is almost an impossible undertaking. LOL.

What IS possible is to list where the hoya was collected and where else
it is found...  Then research as to whether that area is a double
monsoon area (generally plants growing wet) or a single one (plants
need a dry spell)...

For instance...H. imbricata: mine grows up a palm tree trunk and really
thrives in the rain...it does NOT like to be dry.  Now, we found H.
imbricata growing in defoliated trees in full sun, dry as a bone in a
time of no rain for 3 months.  (When the rains come, the plant will
plump up and look great!!!!). How should I grow mine?  Eriostemmas love
to climb, but they generally don't bloom until they reach a certain
height and hang down.....  H. lacunosa is generally a 'hanger'...but it
is climbing all over a tree (on the undersides of the branches where it
doesn't get soaked) and in some places hangs down....

Perhaps what would be useful would be a section where a hoya is posted
and different people who grow it successfully describe their methods
and folks interested could find a condition that matches theirs and
take some advice.  It could be like the plant files on DG...  But then,
I dislike telling people how to grow a hoya...but more what a hoya
seems to grow best in... and that is so subjective!!!

Good idea, tho'.

--- In thestemmaforum@yahoogroups.com, "markroy68" <markroy68@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Lourdes and Carol!
>  You can use any words from any language, you will not be censored.
> Unless you are doing some mighty extreme cursing...
>  For instance:
>
> Carol, what's da haps?
>
> Lordes, ¿que pasa?'
>

Hello everybody!
Good to know that "no pasa nada"(nothing will happen) if I use a
couple of words in Spanish.(lol)
Thank you again for the invitation

I dropped out of the hoya world for a few months, what with a move, etc. and
then saw my
DG membership expired. So nice to have a reminder of my favorite hobby - and a
FREE
forum.

thanks for starting it, Mark. (the waymanaie cutting you gave me back in the day
is budding
up again...fingers crossed it will actually bloom this time! (and survive the
cold months).

Julia

>
I have H albiflora IML299, but it hasnt flowered yet. It was from a Swedish
collector, so theres
probably more chance of getting a photo from that part of the world.
Dominic

I'm glad to see people are making use of the Photo albums!

  Sylvine, thanks for posting such interesting (new?) species. Can you
tell us something about the plants?
  I have been wanting to see Hoya pandurata. A nice flower and such
interesting leaves.

And:

Sylvine, Bonjour.

Lin, How'r Y'all?

Marcy, Hey dude.

A couple corrections:
  The Liddle & Forster article appeared in 1992.
  Carol placed a photo of aff. albiflora in her album, so I placed a
photo of H. magnifica (also taken by Carol)in my album. So we have
photos of all the species in question except for H. albiflora IML299.
Anyone here flowered that one and have a picture?

Hoya calycina has leaves that are between those of magnifica and aff.
albiflora in size. The flowers are about 1-1/2" (3.5cm) in diameter on
the clone that I have. There are apparently a number of collections of
this species in cultivation, and they seem to vary a bit in flower
size and degree of hairiness of leaves.
  The flowers are slightly cupped and occur in sometimes very large
umbels. This plant is a very reliable bloomer for me, budding up like
clockwork in the fall, like many clones of Hoya australis. The flowers
are very fragrant and long-lasting.
  I'll place an image of Hoya calycina in my photo album. This is the
flower umbel that appears in the Stemma logo (although the leaves
accompanying it are from Hoya sp. aff. finlaysonii).

Hoya magnifica doesn't seem to have leaves as large as aff.
albiflora's (for me so far- some leaves on my aff. albiflora are over
10" (25cm) long, the largest on my young plant of magnifica are "just"
6" (15cm)).
  The flowers are larger, flatter and the corolla lobes are more fused
than those of H. albiflora, giving them a kind of saucer shape. The
flowers of H. magnifica apparently approach two inches (5cm)in diameter.
  I am guessing there is more than one collection of magnifica in
cultivation as some growers (Christina Karlsson) have reported some
clones to smell sweet and others like a stable. I invited Christina to
join here, so maybe she will comment.
  Carol has placed a picture of the flowers of magnifica in her photo
album.

Hoya albiflora has very cupped flowers and very large leaves. I'll
post two images in my Photo section- the first is an old botanical
illustration of Hoya albiflora (it was called "Pterostelma albiflorum"
then). The second one is an illustration from David Liddle from an
article he wrote with Paul Forster in the '80s.
  Mr. Liddle labeled this illustration "IML299"- it is sometimes
offered in his catalog. At the time of the article it was believed
that only one collection of this species existed in cultivation.
  Hoya sp. aff. albiflora (meaning this is an undetermined species that
is "affinis" or "like" albiflora) seems to have a different corolla. I
haven't flowered this plant yet, though I think Carol has, so maybe
she can post an image. It may or may not be a collection of albiflora.

Okay, I'll try to post some things which will highlight the current
understanding of this group. There are always new plant coming into
cultivation, like aff. albiflora, and David Liddle has hinted that
there is some new material from this group in cultivation somewhere,
so our idea of these species will probably evolve.
  Basically, Hoya magnifica, Hoya calycina and Hoya albiflora are three
species from New Guinea that are similar to Hoya australis. They
differ from australis primarily in having larger flowers and (usually)
much larger, hairy leaves. It is easy to see the similarities in the
flowers- they all have pure white corollas and coronas with some
degree of red stain under the corona. They are all very fragrant.
  This group is sometimes called the "New Guinea Whites".

Hi Lourdes and Carol!
  You can use any words from any language, you will not be censored.
Unless you are doing some mighty extreme cursing...
  For instance:

Carol, what's da haps?

Lordes, ¿que pasa?'

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
thestemmaforum group:

What is the most important factor to you when adding a hoya to your collection?

   o foliage
   o flowers
   o PRICE!
   o All of the above


To vote, please visit the following web page:
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Thanks!

Thank you Mark for the invitation, it is an honor to be part of this
group.
Lourdes

Syl,
You're pictures are always so stunning!
I'm so excited for you that pandurata has flowered!  That's one I want
eventually!  I've only seen one flower picture prior to yours.
Kelly

Hello,

I am happy and honored to be here with you.
Mark, thank you for your invitation.

In the album, I saw H. aff. albiflora, it is big and beautiful !
I put the pictures of Hoyas who blossoms for the first
time in September 2008.


Sorry for my english but it is the fault Google Translation :lol:

Mark...how can we invite people...is there a special link to send
them?  HAHAHAHA Can we use foreign words like "Aloha" and "Feliz
Navidad" or will we get kicked off?  HAHAHA

Me

I just posted a photo of one I have David liddle calls H. aff
albiflora.  It blooms in the fall here, and has a gentle sweet
wonderful scent (to me).  It also likes lots of rooms around its'
feet!  I will try to find my H. magnifica photo...somewhere...I get
lost....

Thanks Mark...nice to be here!  With friends...

Carol

Kelly, I will photograph some old illustrations and gather some pictures
tonight, I'll post something tomorrow that might make the calycina group
a little clearer.

I would love to have a "Bloom of the Month" feature! I always love seeing great
photo's of
everyone's plants!

I'm just talking off the top of my head here but I would love to have a care and
culture type
sticky available,  with an alphabetical list of hoya (alphabetical makes it
easier to find the
one you are looking for) with maybe a photo of foliage and flowers, listing
temperament,
preferences, climbing, trailing, whether they prefer to grow wet, dry, cool,
warm etc.
Although I know it would be a lot of work for someone to put something like that
together. LOL, maybe y'all should just tell me to buy a book, huh? If there were
a good
hoya book with all of that information available (with good, clear photo's of
each plant) I'd
buy it in an instant!




--- In thestemmaforum@yahoogroups.com, "markroy68" <markroy68@...> wrote:
>
>  Since the forum is new, let me ask you all what kind of features you
> would like to see here?
>  Lots of forums have "bloom of the month" threads, which certainly are
> popular (for good reason). Would everyone like to see a kind of
> "anchor" thread like that here, or would a more free-form structure be
> better?
>  Any other ideas for "sticky" threads?
>  There is a file section available, are there any type of images,
> illustrations, articles etc. that you would like to see there?
>
> By the way- some details on the forum:
>
>  Stemma Forum is public, but only members may post messages or images.
>
>  Membership is by invitation, if there is anyone you would like to
> invite run it by me or Carol first.
>
>  You can chose to receive messages via email or check on messages
> on-line- you can alter this feature at will. Check your name at the
> top left of the page- it should say "edit membership" after your name.
> Click on this and you can change this and other features of your
> membership.
>

Sorry, Mark, I should have said Thank You first as well - instead I
jumped on in, posted a picture and asked a question first!

--- In thestemmaforum@yahoogroups.com, "plantladylin"
<plantladylin@...> wrote:
>
> I am so glad you started this Stemma forum! I am learning so much
from you hoya pro's!
> Thanks for inviting me to join.
>
> Lin
>
Yes, Mark I want to thank you as well for enviting me as well.

Doug

I am so glad you started this Stemma forum! I am learning so much from you hoya
pro's!
Thanks for inviting me to join.

Lin

Been trying to figure out the difference between magnifica and
albiflora besides magnifica's flowers being larger.

Which one is pure white and which one smells like nutmeg?

Have read through bunches of posts on DG and I'm still not sure....

Help is always appreciated!
Kelly

Since the forum is new, let me ask you all what kind of features you
would like to see here?
  Lots of forums have "bloom of the month" threads, which certainly are
popular (for good reason). Would everyone like to see a kind of
"anchor" thread like that here, or would a more free-form structure be
better?
  Any other ideas for "sticky" threads?
  There is a file section available, are there any type of images,
illustrations, articles etc. that you would like to see there?

By the way- some details on the forum:

  Stemma Forum is public, but only members may post messages or images.

  Membership is by invitation, if there is anyone you would like to
invite run it by me or Carol first.

  You can chose to receive messages via email or check on messages
on-line- you can alter this feature at will. Check your name at the
top left of the page- it should say "edit membership" after your name.
Click on this and you can change this and other features of your
membership.

You are in! I can't usually read those damn things either, I have to
try two or three times, and finally, just as I feel they are about to
call security in and have me detained, I guess right.
  I see in making this reply that Yahoo groups has one of those
annoying reply features where it reprints the whole previous message
in your reply field. Let's try to remember to delete those pesky
things, so as not to jumble up every thread. I wish there was a way to
change that!

Bit fiddley joining the yahoo thingy...just couldnt read those security
jumbles.must need new
glasses!

Hi, welcome to the official Stemma forum.
  I have only invited a handful of people as of now- care to help me
trouble-shoot the forum? Try making posts, adding photos, using the
various features and let me know if there are any problems.
  In a few days, everyone may start recommending other to join, if they
so desire.
  I have invited a number of people whose primary language is not
English- please don't hold back if you feel your English is not
perfect. No one will judge you, we are all here to talk about our
passions, not our grammar.
  Suggestions? Comments?
  Mark