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Re: [TI-99/4A] Assembly Language Questions

Not that it matters now that the download has been fixed BUT when I tried and
got the same results I clicked o nthe little envelope next to the download link
and had the siter email me the attachment, works great.
Thanks for posting the file.




--- In ti99-4a@yahoogroups.com, "edcheek" <edward_cheek@...> wrote:
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> --- In ti99-4a@yahoogroups.com, mark wills <markrobertwills@> wrote:
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> > Ok, it's on my "TO DO" list :-)
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> > M
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> Mark,
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> I downloaded the zip file that is supposed to contain the Compute book on
assembly programming again. It is empty. It shows zero bytes and when I try to
open it, it reports that the file is empty or corrupted. I just wanted to let
you know.
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> Thanks,
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> Ed
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> > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Nadav Ben-Ami <nadav343@>
> > > To: ti99-4a@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 22:10:47
> > > Subject: RE: [TI-99/4A] Assembly Language Questions
> > >
> > >
> > > I can produce a YouTube video if required.
> > >
> > > Please!
> > >
> > >
> > > To: ti99-4a@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: markrobertwills@
> > > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:12:47 +0000
> > > Subject: Re: [TI-99/4A] Assembly Language Questions
> > >
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> > > The easiest way:
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> > > 1) Type the programs in to the editor in editor assembler, as you see them
in
> > > the book.
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> > >
> > > 2) At the very top of the text (before the stuff you type in from the book
> > > enter:)
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> > > DEF START
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> > >
> > > 3) One before the first line of executable code, enter:
> > >
> > > START
> > >
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> > > 4) Save the source file to disk.
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> > >
> > >
> > > 5) Go back to editor assembler menu. Start the assembler
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> > >
> > > 6) Assemble your source code in assembly
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 7) Go back to menu, select option 3
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> > >
> > >
> > > 8) Enter the name you gave for the object code in step 6
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 9) WHen the code has loaded and is asking you again for a file name, just
press
> > > enter
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> > > 10) type START and press enter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 11) Voila ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I can produce a YouTube video if required.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > >
> > > > From: Nadav Ben-Ami
> > >
> > > > To: ti99-4a@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > > Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 20:24:45
> > >
> > > > Subject: RE: [TI-99/4A] Assembly Language Questions
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Mark, I have two of those books by M.S Morley and I too would like to
know how
> > >
> > >
> > > > do I enter in the examples since they are written using the MM cartridge
and
> > > LBL
> > >
> > > > assembler? I have only the Editor/Assembler and the book only mentions
briefly
> > >
> > >
> > > > about it, though it includes the TMS9900 instruction set.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I also have Ralph Molesworth book also which is helping me to recoup
some of
> > > my
> > >
> > > > assembly language learning.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > To: ti99-4a@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > > From: markrobertwills@
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:00:39 +0000
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [TI-99/4A] Assembly Language Questions
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> > > > You're all very welcome to ask assembly questions. No need to
struggle
> > >
> > > > with a book. There's of plenty of folk on here that will be happy to
help.
> > > That
> > >
> > > > said, the Lottrup book, and the MiniMem manual was all I used to learn
TMS9900
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> > >
> > > > back in 1990!
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> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > You might also want to consider the SWPB mailing list (also on yahoo)
which is
> > >
> > >
> > > > possibly a more appropriate place for assembly questions. All the
uber-geeks
> > >
> > > > hang out there ;-)
> > >
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> > > > Mark
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> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >From: Jacques Groslouis
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >To: ti99-4a@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 19:39:34
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >Subject: Re: [TI-99/4A] Assembly Language Questions
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> > > > >Hi Ed,
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> > >
> > > > >>Just in case the Lottrup book that you download is a copy of the
original
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>you should be aware that it may contain a handful of typos (perhaps
two
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> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>handfuls ). In one case a whole line of assembly code is missing.
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> > > > >>In an effort to improve my ability to program in assembly I have
undertaken
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> > > >
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> > > > >>to convert for my use the Mini Memory programs in the book to E/A
programs.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>I have now finished entering the programs from Chapter 5. I am
assembling
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>and running these from Funnelweb which would be similar to running
from a
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>E/A module. If you run into problems please feel free to compare notes
with
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>me. Perhaps we will both learn how to program in assembly.
> > >
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> > > > >>Regards,
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> > > > >>Jacques
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> > > > >>----- Original Message -----
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> > >
> > > > >>From: "edcheek"
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> > > > >>To:
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> > > > >>Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:51 AM
> > >
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> > > > >>Subject: Re: [TI-99/4A] Assembly Language Questions
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> > > > >>--- In ti99-4a@yahoogroups .com, Marc Hull wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>Hi Marc,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>Thank you for the help. There is only one thing. I tried to
downloand the
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>book from Planet-99 under the documents section. The zip file is
empty. I
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>would love to have the book to read this weekend. Can someone check
this?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>Thanks,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>Ed
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> Ed......
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> My two cents to follow......
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> 1st... get the compute book. It is much bettter and I believe
(correct me
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> if I'm wrong Mark) can be DL'd from Planet-99. It is the saving
grace for
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> learning not only the assembly language of the TMS's but also the
how to's
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> of the 99.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> 2nd... Pop for the gear to get the E/A package. The LBL SUCKS (Sorry
Mark,
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> I'll make it up to you someday.) and you get the E/A manual which
doesn't
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> teach sh*t about programming but has all the pertinant info not
covered in
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> any book.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> 3rd... Your gear is pretty hardy (and pretty cheap to replace) so
use it.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> Emulation is nice if your at work or on vacation (Again sorry Mike
ET
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> AL...) but does not come close to the experience of diddeling the
real
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> thing ;-) Besides if your good gear fails then there are several
resources
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> to get it fixed or replaced.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> 4th... Welcome my friend to world of obsolete programming. .. I've
had the
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> time of my life and I hope the same for you.....
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> The Destroyer... .......
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, edcheek wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
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> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> From: edcheek
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> Subject: [TI-99/4A] Assembly Language Questions
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> To: ti99-4a@yahoogroups .com
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 6:23 PM
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
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> > >
> > > > >>> I have three questions for someone that has more experience than I.
I
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> bought a book on Ebay called "Fundamentals of TI-994/A Assembly
Language
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> Programming"
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> by M S Morley. The example code was done with the Mini Memory and
the Line
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> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> By Line Assembler. My first question is, will the opcodes and syntax
used
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> with the Mini Memory work the same with the Editor Assembler? I
could do
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> some reading and figure this out but you guys can save me a little
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> research and time.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> My second question. Is it possible to copy the Line By Line
Assembler from
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> cassette to disk and make it work? I have a feeling that if I save
the
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> assembler to disk that it will want to save programs to cassette
anyway.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> My last question. If I write assembly code on the Win994a simulator
will
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> it also run on the real TI with no problems? I would rather do most
of the
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> work on the simulator so that I can preserve the real hardware.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>> Thanks in advance,
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> > > >
> > >
> > > > >>>
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> > > > >>> Ed
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Hi Ed, It's fixed now (just in the last 15 minutes) - see previous post ;-) Mark. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Not that it matters now that the download has been fixed BUT when I tried and got the same results I clicked o nthe little envelope next to the download link...
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There have been problems with planet-99.net today. Something went tits-up on the server. My hosts have just been in contact to say the problem is fixed. I just...
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... FANTASTIC!! The dowload of the Compute book worked. Thanks Mark. I will be reading all night tonight. Great web site. Ed...
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You're welcome. And don't forget: If there's something you don't quite understand, post a question. There's plenty of Guru's on here! I'll do the video in the...
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Maybe your kilt wasn't on straight ;-) ... From: mark wills <markrobertwills@...> Subject: [TI-99/4A] ** PLANET-99.NET -- FIXED ** To:...
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<pout> I'm English, not Scottish! </pout> Bloody colonials. ;-) (joke!) Mark ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Anyone have a list of programs that do not work with the CF7 and/or what the problems might be? I seem to recall FWEB fails but not sure in what respect - if...
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First of all a disclaimer: The following changes may not solve all problems experienced with FW 4.40 or programs loaded with said utility. I cannot confirm...
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A better "fix" would be for the CF7 to put that info in its header - that is reserved... Nice find!...
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Thank you Technically, from the DSR perspective, it is reserved. It's just that programs which try to interact with the DSR don't know how to handle the odd...
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Ok.. I found the problem almost immediately. DSKU 4.2 return to FW problem: ============================== After loading FW, DSKU clears PAD Ram from 0x8300 to...
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But if you use DSKU to patch itself, don't you risk ripping a hole in the space-time continuum? ;)...
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Excellent work Tim. Any chance of you (or somebody ...) making a Fweb disk with these changes available somewhere for loading onto the CF7? Stuart....
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Jul 19, 2009
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Excellent stuff Tim! It seems that July is a great month for all things TI ;-) Filip...
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Jul 19, 2009
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Has anyone tried to get in contact with the 'creator' of the CF7+ device to let him know that the "problem" has been discovered, analyzed, and a software fix...
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I doubt if anyone has contacted him yet, Eric, since the solution is less than 24 hours old ;-) Still, I'd say it's a good idea. I would encourage anyone that...
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It might be a good idea to produce a new 'release' of Funnelweb, maybe call it FunnelWeb 7 (i.e. CF7). This new release could be made available on WHT and...
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That is to be seen - read his disclaimer. I'd first check Myarc controllers, as they don't use that VDP area and FW must be setting it up for some reason....
Ben Yates
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Jul 19, 2009
3:21 pm

Mark, Ben, Yes, the patch would likely affect other VDP-using controllers, as it would change the top of VDP pointer to a value above 0x3fff. As Ben suggests,...
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Jul 19, 2009
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I don't think Tony and Will Mcgovern would like that idea.. though, if they are up to it, they can produce it. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
Nadav Ben-Ami
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Jul 19, 2009
4:20 pm

I'd be surprised by that. They don't even have the source code any more, much less TI's to run it on! ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
mark wills
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Jul 19, 2009
4:31 pm

I mean, do you even have the source code for it to modify? I think its somewhat of a difficult task unless you know what you want to add or take out? I mean,...
Nadav Ben-Ami
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Jul 19, 2009
4:36 pm

No we don't have the source, sadly. But Tim was able make the changes required without the source. Excellent work! I'm watching the Scottish Golf open, and...
mark wills
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Jul 19, 2009
4:46 pm

The logical way of making the corrections (fixes) would be the same way corrections (fixes) were made to programs (cartridges), [Plato, TI Logo II, Video Chess...
Eric Bray
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Jul 19, 2009
5:07 pm

Fweb is public domain. Don't think Tony is interested in any changes....
computerclassics2000
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Jul 19, 2009
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... Is that what they make you do in Aberdeen? Here in civilisation we have an Ashes Test on at Lords... Peter [Non-text portions of this message have been...
Peter Killick
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Jul 19, 2009
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The keyword there being Civilisation! ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
mark wills
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Jul 19, 2009
6:18 pm

Excellent work Tim ! But please tell us, which spreadsheet you used to accomplish this feat ?  ;) ... From: Insane Multitasker <insane_m@...> ...
Marc Hull
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