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Re: tonescape crashes

Hi Oz,

--- In tonescape_denhaag@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>
wrote:
>
> I own a Macbook Pro with Parallels Desktop installed. This
> allows me to run Windows XP simultaneously with Mac OS X.
> I downloaded and installed Tonescape from the Win XP window,
> but the program crashes everytime I execute it. I don't know
> what the problem is. Can anyone help?
>
> Oz.


We have never tested Tonescape on any kind of Mac, however,
i have tried to install Tonescape onto several different
virtual machines and have never had any success. It seems
to be too tightly tied in to the necessary Microsoft technology
to allow it to work under a virtual environment ... at least
with current hardware availability.

I have Tonescape running fine on a desktop Windows XP machine.
Trying to install it to a virtual Windows XP running on
top of that didn't work. On the same computer, i also tried
installing it under Wine in a virtual Ubuntu Linux, and that
also didn't work.

I also have Tonescape running beautifully on Windows Vista SP1
laptop. Trying to install it to a virtual Windows XP running
on top of that machine also didn't work.

You should note that many people have had problems even
trying to install it directly onto a real Windows XP or
Vista machine, and those are the only two operating systems
on which it *will* work.

I don't know why so many people have problems with it,
because it's always worked fine on any computer i have
which has the required hardware. You *do* need to have
a good video card, .Net Framework 1.1, and DirectX 9.0c.

The biggest problems come from Microsoft constantly
changing DirectX and not keeping it entirely compatible
with previous versions. Even if you have 9.0c, it may
not be the exact version number needed to run Tonescape.

Unfortunately the project has been dormant since 2006 and
we are presently unable to offer tech support. We do plan
to, at some point, port the graphics engine over to OpenGL,
to avoid the DirectX problems.

In some cases it will install just fine, but if your
video card is not good enough, there will be a warning
during installation that "Your video card may cause
the program to run slowly" (or something to that effect),
and in fact what will happen is the program will run OK
except that it will not display the Lattice -- the Lattice
window will be completely blank. Of course, the Lattice
is the whole point of Tonescape. But at least you will
have the Pitch-Height (i.e., score) window working OK,
and playing the piece will give both the audio, and the
video updating of the Pitch-Height window.

My advice, if you really want to use Tonescape, is to
use a real XP or Vista machine with all of the Microsoft
updates installed.

I just purchased my super-hot Vista laptop brand-new
about a month ago for only US $600. So the price of
the necessary hardware is coming way down. In this
country (USA) you can get a capable Windows XP laptop
for around $150-200.


-monz
http://tonalsoft.com/tonescape.aspx
Tonescape microtonal music software








Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:32 pm

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I own a Macbook Pro with Parallels Desktop installed. This allows me to run Windows XP simultaneously with Mac OS X. I downloaded and installed Tonescape from...
Ozan Yarman
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Jun 13, 2008
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Hi Oz, ... We have never tested Tonescape on any kind of Mac, however, i have tried to install Tonescape onto several different virtual machines and have never...
monz
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Jun 24, 2008
1:32 pm

Dear monz, After installing DirectX 9.0c and .Net Framework 1.1, I can see a lattice window when trying to start Tonescape, but the program still gives an...
Ozan Yarman
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Jun 25, 2008
6:36 pm

Hi Oz, ... OK, it's good that at least you got this far! Actually, most of the times that i've installed Tonescape for other people (mainly my students) this...
monz
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Jun 26, 2008
3:49 pm

Hi Oz, A few more comments ... ... Please be aware that Windows ME and Windows XP are vastly different operating systems. Microsoft originally created Windows...
monz
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Jun 26, 2008
10:19 pm

Thank you for all this information monz. It appears that the problem is related to the MDX and the correct DirectX version. I believe I am close to making...
Ozan Yarman
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Jun 27, 2008
7:38 pm

Dear monz, I have installed the Microsoft .net 1.1 service pack 1, but still no luck. Where do I download Managed DirectX API v.9.2 or above? And which exact...
Ozan Yarman
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Jun 27, 2008
7:36 pm

Hi Oz, ... It's not so simple. If you read this blog and the comments which follow it, you'll get an idea of how f***ed-up this whole DirectX mess is: ...
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Jun 28, 2008
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Monz, if my understanding is correct, different Direct X 9.0c versions arise from SDK updates occuring every 2-3 months. Do you or Chris not know which exact...
Ozan Yarman
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Jun 29, 2008
10:02 pm

Hi Oz, ... Sorry, didn't mean to help increase your exasperation. Actually, yes, it's a simply matter to find out everything there is to know about the DirectX...
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Jun 30, 2008
3:51 am

Hi again Oz, ... In the interests of really trying to help you, i've reformatted this list to look nicer here. ("date" seems to be not important -- it appears...
monz
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Jun 30, 2008
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... Oh, i forgot to say: if viewing on the Yahoo website, click the "Option" and then "Use Fixed Width Font" links to make it look neat. -monz ...
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Jun 30, 2008
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Dear monz, Thank you for your support. I followed your advice and ran dxdiag. My DirectX is the same as your version. However, it seems that d3d8.dll and...
Ozan Yarman
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Jun 30, 2008
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Hi Oz, I've sent them to your ozanyarman.com email. -monz http://tonalsoft.com/tonescape.aspx Tonescape microtonal music software...
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Jun 30, 2008
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Hi Monz, I just found out about tonescape and it looks like its just what I've been looking for for a long time. Only problem is that it doesn't start up. I am...
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