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Re: [tonescape_denhaag] Re: tonescape crashes

Dear monz,

After installing DirectX 9.0c and .Net Framework 1.1, I can see a
lattice window when trying to start Tonescape, but the program still
gives an error afterwards and crashes. Something is missing, but what?

I think my Macbook Pro's video card is terrific. It is a NVIDIA
GeForce 8600 GT PCIe card with 512 MB of VRAM. My Guest OS is Windows
XP 2002 Service Pack 3. I even enabled DirectX shaders for Parallels
Desktop VM. If only we had a clue what is lacking to make Tonescape
work... I am currently migrating everything else from my old computer
to my Mac. Nothing has caused any problem so far. All the other
programs that worked in Windows ME work under the guest OS on my Mac
smoothly. Since installing the two components above improved the
situation, we seem to be on the right track. I shouldn't be required
to use another laptop for Tonescape if we can just isolate the problem.

Can you give a list of all the hardware and software requirements to
assure smooth running of Tonescape on your system? Maybe we can locate
the crucial element that Tonescape needs to work.

Oz.



On Jun 24, 2008, at 4:32 PM, monz wrote:

> Hi Oz,
>
> --- In tonescape_denhaag@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> I own a Macbook Pro with Parallels Desktop installed. This
>> allows me to run Windows XP simultaneously with Mac OS X.
>> I downloaded and installed Tonescape from the Win XP window,
>> but the program crashes everytime I execute it. I don't know
>> what the problem is. Can anyone help?
>>
>> Oz.
>
>
> We have never tested Tonescape on any kind of Mac, however,
> i have tried to install Tonescape onto several different
> virtual machines and have never had any success. It seems
> to be too tightly tied in to the necessary Microsoft technology
> to allow it to work under a virtual environment ... at least
> with current hardware availability.
>
> I have Tonescape running fine on a desktop Windows XP machine.
> Trying to install it to a virtual Windows XP running on
> top of that didn't work. On the same computer, i also tried
> installing it under Wine in a virtual Ubuntu Linux, and that
> also didn't work.
>
> I also have Tonescape running beautifully on Windows Vista SP1
> laptop. Trying to install it to a virtual Windows XP running
> on top of that machine also didn't work.
>
> You should note that many people have had problems even
> trying to install it directly onto a real Windows XP or
> Vista machine, and those are the only two operating systems
> on which it *will* work.
>
> I don't know why so many people have problems with it,
> because it's always worked fine on any computer i have
> which has the required hardware. You *do* need to have
> a good video card, .Net Framework 1.1, and DirectX 9.0c.
>
> The biggest problems come from Microsoft constantly
> changing DirectX and not keeping it entirely compatible
> with previous versions. Even if you have 9.0c, it may
> not be the exact version number needed to run Tonescape.
>
> Unfortunately the project has been dormant since 2006 and
> we are presently unable to offer tech support. We do plan
> to, at some point, port the graphics engine over to OpenGL,
> to avoid the DirectX problems.
>
> In some cases it will install just fine, but if your
> video card is not good enough, there will be a warning
> during installation that "Your video card may cause
> the program to run slowly" (or something to that effect),
> and in fact what will happen is the program will run OK
> except that it will not display the Lattice -- the Lattice
> window will be completely blank. Of course, the Lattice
> is the whole point of Tonescape. But at least you will
> have the Pitch-Height (i.e., score) window working OK,
> and playing the piece will give both the audio, and the
> video updating of the Pitch-Height window.
>
> My advice, if you really want to use Tonescape, is to
> use a real XP or Vista machine with all of the Microsoft
> updates installed.
>
> I just purchased my super-hot Vista laptop brand-new
> about a month ago for only US $600. So the price of
> the necessary hardware is coming way down. In this
> country (USA) you can get a capable Windows XP laptop
> for around $150-200.
>
>
> -monz
> http://tonalsoft.com/tonescape.aspx
> Tonescape microtonal music software
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I own a Macbook Pro with Parallels Desktop installed. This allows me to run Windows XP simultaneously with Mac OS X. I downloaded and installed Tonescape from...
Ozan Yarman
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Jun 13, 2008
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Hi Oz, ... We have never tested Tonescape on any kind of Mac, however, i have tried to install Tonescape onto several different virtual machines and have never...
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Jun 24, 2008
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Dear monz, After installing DirectX 9.0c and .Net Framework 1.1, I can see a lattice window when trying to start Tonescape, but the program still gives an...
Ozan Yarman
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Jun 25, 2008
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Hi Oz, ... OK, it's good that at least you got this far! Actually, most of the times that i've installed Tonescape for other people (mainly my students) this...
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Jun 26, 2008
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Hi Oz, A few more comments ... ... Please be aware that Windows ME and Windows XP are vastly different operating systems. Microsoft originally created Windows...
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Jun 26, 2008
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Thank you for all this information monz. It appears that the problem is related to the MDX and the correct DirectX version. I believe I am close to making...
Ozan Yarman
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Jun 27, 2008
7:38 pm

Dear monz, I have installed the Microsoft .net 1.1 service pack 1, but still no luck. Where do I download Managed DirectX API v.9.2 or above? And which exact...
Ozan Yarman
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Jun 27, 2008
7:36 pm

Hi Oz, ... It's not so simple. If you read this blog and the comments which follow it, you'll get an idea of how f***ed-up this whole DirectX mess is: ...
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Jun 28, 2008
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Monz, if my understanding is correct, different Direct X 9.0c versions arise from SDK updates occuring every 2-3 months. Do you or Chris not know which exact...
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Jun 29, 2008
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Hi Oz, ... Sorry, didn't mean to help increase your exasperation. Actually, yes, it's a simply matter to find out everything there is to know about the DirectX...
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Jun 30, 2008
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Hi again Oz, ... In the interests of really trying to help you, i've reformatted this list to look nicer here. ("date" seems to be not important -- it appears...
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... Oh, i forgot to say: if viewing on the Yahoo website, click the "Option" and then "Use Fixed Width Font" links to make it look neat. -monz ...
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Dear monz, Thank you for your support. I followed your advice and ran dxdiag. My DirectX is the same as your version. However, it seems that d3d8.dll and...
Ozan Yarman
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Hi Oz, I've sent them to your ozanyarman.com email. -monz http://tonalsoft.com/tonescape.aspx Tonescape microtonal music software...
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Hi Monz, I just found out about tonescape and it looks like its just what I've been looking for for a long time. Only problem is that it doesn't start up. I am...
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