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Re: Tonescape's Time Signatures

Hi Herman,

--- In tonescape_denhaag@yahoogroups.com, Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
wrote:

> Another one of these bug temperament sketches that I have
> (in a similarly early state of development) has a
> meter of 4 + 2/3 beats per measure!


Hmmm ... that's *very* much like a piece i started composing
a few weeks ago: a swing/bebop jazz piece in 13-edo. I set
up the Time Signature in Tonescape as "11/8: 3+3+3+2 as 6+5",
but my idea of how it feels is really a swing 4/4 which is
missing the final swing-8th, so that would make it 3+(2/3) / 4.



> > However, if you (or anyone else) desires to use a particular
> > Time Signature which is not in Tonescape's built-in list,
> > simply let me know and i'll be able to set up a file for you
> > with that Time Signature included.
>
> It wouldn't be worth the trouble for a rhythmic pattern that
> I'll probably only use once. But if you had some kind of
> hand-editable file for these (something that could be edited
> in Notepad), even if you don't have a nice GUI for editing
> them inside Tonescape, I'd probably get some use out of it.


As long as i can use my spreadsheet, it's really not that
hard to set a Tonescape Time Signature. My idea was that
since we plan to eventually incorporate a real Time Signature
Editor, it made sense to put in the mental effort to figure
out the algorithm in my spreadsheet, and the added benefit
is that even before we get the Editor in there, it's fairly
easy for me to calculate any Time Signature accent pattern
that i can dream up.

Actually, the last work i did on Time Signatures before they
were implemented into Tonescape was quite systematic: i was
calculating every possible combination of accents for each
numerator ... but i only accomplished that for numerators
2 thru 11; after 11 i only put in ones that i had used in
compositions myself.


> I just thought it was a pretty cool feature already to
> have built-in preset rhythmic patterns more than just
> quantizing to the nearest 16th note (as in a typical
> MIDI editor).


It's something that i've been wanting in a MIDI sequencer
for a long, long time ... along with easy input of microtonal
tunings, of course!

I might as well say it now: my goal in creating Tonescape
all along has been simply for *me* to have the music
composition software with all the bells and whistles
that *i* always wanted! And naturally, that makes it so
good that others are going to like it too. ;-)



-monz
http://tonalsoft.com
Tonescape microtonal music software





Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:37 am

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I've almost finished an actual piece, and this one even plays! It sounds pretty bad right now, though, because the French horn is the same volume as the flute....
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Mar 20, 2007
7:37 pm

Hi Tristan, ... Awesome! I can't wait to hear it! (BTW, Chris is back from his vacation and is working on getting your "sketchin300" piece to play.) ... Sure,...
monz
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Mar 21, 2007
6:06 am

... Two things to add about the "Show Modifiers Entire Piece" volume: 1) The default value is 1.00 -- that is, maximum volume for all Parts. 2) To date, i have...
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Mar 21, 2007
6:17 am

... Nice! Will these be programmable? Could I set up a repeating pattern with 2 bars of 7 against 5 followed by one bar of 11 against 8? :-) ...
Herman Miller
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Mar 22, 2007
2:50 am

Hi Herman, ... I'm pretty good at hearing complex meters, and can hear the 7+7+11 in this in this short piece (which i really like BTW -- sounds to me kind of...
monz
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Mar 22, 2007
6:19 am

... Essentially one percussionist playing in 7+7+11 while another one plays a different rhythm in 5+5+8 (with very slight changes in tempo so that they both...
Herman Miller
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Mar 23, 2007
2:36 am

Hi Herman, ... Hmmm ... that's *very* much like a piece i started composing a few weeks ago: a swing/bebop jazz piece in 13-edo. I set up the Time Signature in...
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