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Gunnar



Oct 22, 10:25 pm



Gangleri - Re: Astrophil and Stella: sonnet 76




This evening I checked out the University of Virginia First Folio text of Romeo
and Juliet.



The dialogue which leads up to "...the bawdy hand of the Dyall is now vpon the
pricke of

Noone" begins at - what do you think?



Yes, that's right.



At line # 1200 - as at 12 Noon.



Hmmm?



Merits further checking out.





Oct 23, 7:52 pm



Gangleri - Let this example mooue th'insolent man.



Merits further checking out?



Indeed!



***



First, here is the dialogue from Romeo and Juliet Act II, Sc. iv which leads up
to "....the bawdy hand of the Dyall is now vpon the pricke of Noone":



Enter Nurse and her man.
Rom.
Here's goodly geare.
A sayle, a sayle.
Mer.
Two, two: a Shirt and a Smocke.
Nur.
Peter?
Peter
Anon.
Nur.
My Fan Peter?
Mer.
Good Peter to hide her face?
For her Fans the fairer face.
Nur.
God ye good morrow Gentleman.
Mer.
God ye gooden faire Gentlewoman.
Nur.
Is it gooden?
Mer.
Tis no lesse I tell you:
for the bawdy hand of the Dyall
is now vpon the pricke of Noone.
Nur.
Out vpon you: what a man are you?
Rom.
One Gentlewoman,
That God hath made, himselfe to mar.



The Cipher Value of Stage Directions and Dialogue is 170643.



The Nurse's remark - Out vpon you - and question - what a man are you? - and
Romeo's answer - "One Gentlewoman, That God hath made, himselfe to mar - come as
close as possible (without actually doing so) to spelling out the mechanics of
"a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd" whereby Monad alias One/God makes One
Flesh of its own Male/Female attributes.



As in 345 + 2487 + 216 + 1 = 3049, where



345 = Triangle 3:4:5 alias Foundation of Man-Beast's Psyche;



2487 = Anus alias Seat of Man-Beast's Lower Emotions; with Nurse's Out! command
signaling the Psyche's 'exit' from Man-Beast's Second Best Bed; through



216 = Resurrection [3:4:5 raised to the third power as in 27 + 64 + 125 = 216],
to "a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd" in Man-Beast's Best Bed alias Well on
Virgin's Mons Veneris, where Monad's Male and Female attributes are re-united as



1 = Monad.



***



And what's the moral of the story?



Ben Jonson spells it out as follows in Terentivi's final speech in the second of
the play's in which Will Shake-speare/Shakespeare is said to have acted,
'Seianus His Fall' - its Cipher Value is 116618:



Let this example mooue th'insolent man,
Not to grow proud, and carelesse of the gods:
It is an odious wisedome, to blaspheme,
Much more to slighten, or denie their powers.
For whom the morning saw so great, and high,
Thus low, and little, fore the 'euen doth lie.



***



The Cipher Value of "this example" - one designed to "mooue th'insolent man Not
to grow proud, and careless of the gods" - 170643 + 3049 + 116618 = 290310,
mirrors that of Prospero's Epilogue to William Shakespeare's last play, 'The
Tempest':



Now my charmes are all ore-throwne,
And what strength I have's mine owne.
Which is most faint: now 'tis true
I must be heere confinde by you,
Or sent to Naples, let me not
Since I have my Dukedome got,
And pardon'd the deceiver, dwell
In this bare Island, by your spell,
But release me from my bands
With the helpe of your good hands:
Gentle breath of yours, my Sailes
Must fill, or else my proiect failes,
Which was to please: now I want
Spirits to enforce: art to inchant,
And my ending is despaire,
Vnlesse I be relieu'd by praier
Which pierces so, that it assaults
Mercy it selfe, and frees all faults.
As you from crimes would pardon'd be,
Let your Indulgence set me free. Exit.



***



Forumites who wish to check out these Cipher Values for themselves will find a
Cipher Calculator posted at
http://www.light-of-truth.com/gunnartomasson/ciphers.htm



P.S. For those interested in the Truth of the matter, I will be posting
additional material tomorrow showing how the Cipher Value of Prospero's Epilogue
serves as benchmark value for relating Shakespeare Myth to foundations laid by
Horace and Virgil in the 1st century B.C.



For those, who have grown insolent and proud to the point of becoming carelesse
of the gods, the Cipher Language of the gods will be as water off a duck's back
- the proud legions, whose ancestors came in with Richard the Conqueror - there
is a moral to be learned in the disappearance without a trace of Christophero
Sly in Shakespeares's 'The Taming of the Shrew'.





Oct 24, 3:18 pm



Gangleri - Re: Let this example mooue th'insolent man.



Follow-up # 1.



At first glance, the reference to "the gods" in Ben Jonson's lines -



Let this example mooue th'insolent man,
Not to grow proud, and carelesse of the gods:



- has a distinctly pagan air about it.



Yet, an entirely different meaning of "the gods" is conveyed in The Gods' Cipher
Language through the Brave New World scene in The Tempest Act V (First Folio,
Cipher Value 274545) -



Here Prospero discouers Ferdinand and Miranda, playing at Chesse.

Miranda
Sweet Lord, you play me false.

Ferdinand
No my dearest love, I would not for the world.

Miranda
Yes, for a score of Kingdomes, you should wrangle, And I would call it faire
play.

Alonso
If this proue A vision of the Island, one deere Sonne Shall I twice loose.

Sebastian
A most high miracle.

Ferdinand
Though the Seas threaten they are mercifull, I have curs'd them without cause.

Alonso
Now all the blessings Of a glad father, compasse thee about: Arise, and say how
thou cam'st heere.

Miranda
O wonder! How many goodly creatures are there heere? How beauteous mankinde
is? O brave new world That has such people in't.

Prospero
'Tis new to thee.



- with the Cipher Value of the Stage Directions and Dialogue being anchored to
that of Prospero's Epilogue through the sum 274545 + 1 + 5452 + 3635 + 6677 =
290310.



For in Shakespeare's Brave New World, "the gods" denote Tri-Unite Cosmic
Creative Power or Monad, 1, become Prospero, 5452, of The Tempest and Emmanuel,
3635, and God With Us, 6677 of Matt. 1:23.



***

Behold, a Virgin shall be with childe, and shall bring foorth a sonne, and they
shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted, is, God with us.

***



In Shakespeare Myth, Jesus Christ, 7284, is the Shipmaster of the 'miraculous
ship' of Grail legend (Faith) on a tempestuous voyage through the Darkness, -
1000, of Ignorance into safe harbour - Brave New World/The Holy City, New
Jerusalem of Rev. 21:22-27 (KJB, 1611; Cipher Value 284026) -



21:22
And I saw no Temple therein: for the Lord God Almightie, and the Lambe, are the
Temple of it.

21:23
And the citie had no need of the Sunne, neither of the Moone to shine in it: for
the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lambe is the light thereof.

21:24
And the nations of them which are saued, shall walke in the light of it: and the
kings of the earth doe bring their glory and honour into it.

21:25
And the gates of it shall not bee shut at all by day: for there shall bee no
night there.
21:26
And they shall bring the glorie and honour of the nations into it.

21:27
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither
whatsoeuer worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in
the Lambes booke of life.



- as in 7284 - 1000 + 284026 = 290310.





Oct 24, 5:10 pm

Gangleri - Re: Let this example mooue th'insolent man.

Follow-up # 2.



As already noted, the Cipher Value, 290310, of Prospero's Epilogue to The
Tempest in the First Folio -



Now my charmes are all ore-throwne,
And what strength I have's mine owne.
Which is most faint: now 'tis true
I must be heere confinde by you,
Or sent to Naples, let me not
Since I have my Dukedome got,
And pardon'd the deceiver, dwell
In this bare Island, by your spell,
But release me from my bands
With the helpe of your good hands:
Gentle breath of yours, my Sailes
Must fill, or else my proiect failes,
Which was to please: now I want
Spirits to enforce: art to inchant,
And my ending is despaire,
Vnlesse I be relieu'd by praier
Which pierces so, that it assaults
Mercy it selfe, and frees all faults.
As you from crimes would pardon'd be,
Let your Indulgence set me free. Exit.



- serves as benchmark or reference value for the unveiling of the Shakespeare
Mystery, whose foundations were laid in the 1st century B.C. by Horace in
'Horace's Monument' (Cipher Value 262982) -



Exegi monumentum aere perennius
regalique situ pyramidum altius,
quod non imber edax, non Aquilo impotens
possit diruere aut innumerabilis
annorum series et fuga temporum.
Non omnis moriar multaque pars mei
vitabit Libitinam; usque ego postera
crescam laude recens. Dum Capitolium
scandet cum tacita virgine pontifex,
dicar, qua violens obstrepit Aufidus
et qua pauper aquae Daunus agrestium
regnavit populorum, ex humili potens,
princeps Aeolium carmen ad Italos
deduxisse modos. Sume superbiam
quaesitam meritis et mihi Delphica
lauro cinge volens, Melpomene, comam.*



***
* I have created a monument more lasting than bronze and loftier than the royal
pyramids, a monument which neither the biting rain nor the raging North Wind can
destroy, nor can the countless years and the passing of the seasons. I will not
entirely die and a great part of me will avoid Libitina, the goddess of Death; I
will grow greater and greater in times to come, kept fresh by praise. So long
as the high priest climbs the stairs of the Capitolium, accompanied by the
silent Vestal Virgin, I, now powerful but from humble origins, will be said to
be the first to have brought Aeolian song to Latin meter where the raging
Aufidius roars and where parched Daunus ruled over the country folk. Embrace my
pride, deservedly earned, Muse, and willingly crown me with Apollo's laurel.

***



- and Virgil through a line in his Fourth Eclogue (Cipher Value 20087) -



Magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo*



***
* Alternative translations: Voici Qui Recommence Le Grand Ordre Des Siècles;
The mighty March of Time resumes from nil; The great roll-call of the centuries
is born anew.
***



- which medieval scholars construed as a prophecy of the Coming of Christ as
Light of the World, 1000, en route to World-Ending transformation into Flaming
Sword, 4000 as in 20087 + 1000 + 4000 = 25087.



In the Shakespeare Opus, this imagery is mirrored in the Cipher Sum 1 + 5452 +
3635 + 6677 + 9322 = 25087, where William Shakespeare, 9322, denotes the Flaming
Sword attribute of Tri-Unite Cosmic Creative Power or Monad, 1, become Prospero,
5452, of The Tempest and Emmanuel, 3635, and God With Us, 6677 of Matt. 1:23.



Also, Stratfordian Gulielmus, 5322, is Microcosmic MAN-Beast alias The
World/Globe as Creation in Time and Space. As such, the Stratfordian is Cosmic
Creative Power's procreative tool or Brownswerd, - 4000, en route to its
World-Ending transformation into Flaming Sword or William Shakespeare, 9322 as
in 9322 - 4000 = 5322.



As transient mask for William Shakespeare, the Stratfordian is Shake-Speare,
4951, alias 'a poore player' whose 'houre vpon the stage' is associated in
ancient creation myth with the number symbol, 1728, of a "whole age, perfect in
duration." *



***
*1728 And Age Perfect In Duration:



The parallels between Noah's Flood and the Fire at Bergþórshvoll are thrown into
startling relief when we consider the Babylonian Ark of Utnapishtim. According
to Peake's the size of that ship is given in B as 120x120x120; 7 stories; 9
divisions. [...]



Instantly it becomes clear that Utnapishtim's ship is a cube. Its
three-dimensional size is 1728 M. This is no small news. Let us consider the
circumstances: the Flood comes after 10 kings have ruled for 432,000 years. At
that time a ship is built 1728 M in size. The ground becomes dry for Noah on Mt.
Ararat on the 27th day of the second month; if the 8 in the Ark and the number
27 belong together as a symbol, they correspond to the Primeval Hill in Iceland
and the Icelandic measuring tree of the universe as 8x27=216 M. In Iceland that
symbolic number stands for the spherical universe; it is firmly bound up with
the line 432,000 (feet) of which Þingvellir, our seat of "kingship" is centre.
The number of the years of the first 10 kings of Babylon is the same as the
number of years in the Indo-European Kalpha; the same number of Einherjar
("Singulares") fight with Óðinn in Valhöll at the end of time. Clearly all
these symbolic values are part of one great web that stretches across the
civilized world of ancient times. [...] We are dealing with a whole age,
perfect in duration. [...]



The size of Utnapishtim's ship, 1728 M, makes it equivalent in size to the
Heavenly Jerusalem in the Book of Revelation. That great city was a Cube,
12x12x12=1728 M in size (Rev. 21:16). (Einar Pálsson, Allegory in Njáls Saga
and its Basis in Pythagorean Thought, Mímir, Reykjavík, 1998, pp. 154-156)

***



Augustan-Saga-Shakespeare Myth is a psychological drama relating to Microcosmic
MAN-Beast's 'race through life', with Triangle 3:4:5 denoting the 'foundation'
at Alpha of MAN-Beast's Psyche, whose Resurrection, 216*, at Omega concludes the
Seventh Day of Creation.



***
* The sides of Triangle 3:4:5 raised to the third power, 27 + 64 + 125 = 216.
***



As in 1 + 262982 + 20087 + 345 + 4951 + 1728 + 216 = 290310.





Oct 25, 5:18 pm



Art Neuendorffer - Re: "But where is Francis Bacon?"



> > some years ago when Prince Philip was being
> > shown the list of contemporaries' names carved in the
> > Shakespeare Centre at Stratford he turned round
> > in surprise and asked, "But where is Francis Bacon?"


Elizabeth wrote:
> That's a question the Oxfordians need to answer.
> If Looney and the Ogburns had divulged that Bacon
> was also a ward of Polonius and lived in the same
> household with Oxford, there would be no Oxfordian
> theory.

--------------------------------------------------------
I don't recall Polonius actually having any wards
(In any event, I doubt that Bacon was his BEST WARD.)
--------------------------------------------------------
Love's Labour's Lost Act 3, Scene 1

ADRIANO DE ARMADO: [Giving a letter]

to the country maid Jaquenetta:
there is remuneration; for the BEST WARD of mine
honour is reWARDing my dependents. Moth, follow.
------------------------------------------------------


The Winter's Tale Act 1, Scene 2



HERMIONE: I had thought, sir, to have held my peace until
You have drawn oaths from him not to stay. You, sir,
Charge him too coldly. Tell him, you are sure
All in Bohemia's well; this satisfaction
The by-gone day proclaim'd: say this to him,
He's beat from his BEST WARD.



[.]







Oct 25, 6:04 pm



Gangleri - Re: "But where is Francis Bacon?"



Best Ward?



For what it's worth - and I just did the math - the Cipher Value of Best Ward,
5180, plus that of Francis Bacon, 5385, or 5180 + 5385 = 10565.



And THAT mirrors the Hebrew Gematria value of JHWH (10-5-6-5).



In Hebrew Myth, the Holy Name of JHWH is held to split into two parts at Seventh
Day's dawn, and "the purpose of our world" for the Holy Name to arise in
creation anew.

Man of Seventh Day' s assigned mission is to bring that about.



In 'Ode to the Royal Society', Abraham Cowley likened Francis Bacon's mission in
life to that of Moses.



Perhaps that is part of the Answer to the Question, "But where is Francis
Bacon?"







Oct 25, 7:34 pm



Gangleri - Re: "But where is Francis Bacon?"



Perhaps?



Clearly, it's a MASSIVE stretch for anyone's imagination to liken Sir Francis
Bacon, Knight, to Moses - yet Abraham Cowley did so in his 'Ode to the Royal
Society'.



Just as clearly, Cowley MUST have known that the imagery would NOT strike the
Royal Society's fellows as the rantings of a deluded crank.



So what's up?



Here are three clues which suggest that something important was up in Cowley's
lines.



1. In Shakespeare's play, The Winters Tale, Hermione, 3849, appears to be
playcast as Wisdom, 4646, whose voice goes unheeded by her rival, Ignorance,
worth zilch.



2. In the vocabulary of myth, Monad, 1, become Light of the World, 1000, is
manifested as Beast, 666, and Right Measure of Man, 432, with Sir Francis Bacon,
Knight, 10594, playing both sides of the street, as in 1 + 1000 + 3849 + 4646 +
666 + 432 = 10594.



3. The Cipher Value of 'The Winters Tale', 9015, mirrors that of Prince
Hamlet's mission-concluded statement, 'The rest is silence', 9015.



OK - so how might all this relate to Francis Bacon as Best Ward, 10565?



Here's how - not that it will impress Hermione's Stratfordian oppressors -
beginning with the exchange between Leontes and Hermione in Act I, Sc. ii of
'The Winters Tale':



Leontes:
Tongue-ty'd our Queene? speake you.
Hermione:
I had thought (Sir) to haue held my peace, vntill
You had drawne Oathes from him, not to stay: you (Sir)
Charge him too coldly. Tell him, you are sure
All in Bohemia's well: this satisfaction,
The by-gone-day proclaym'd, say this to him,
He's beat from his best ward.
Leontes:
Well said. Hermione.



Well said?



The Cipher Value of the exchange, 130035, is mirrored in the Cipher Sum 4646 +
345 + 35662 + 216 + 89166 = 130035.



Well said, indeed!



For Wisdom, 4646, does not beat around the Bush!



Alias Triangle 345 as 'foundation' of MAN-Beast's Psyche, for whose
Resurrection, 216, from the pits of Ignorance Abraham Cowley thanked Francis
Bacon playcast as Moses of Shakespeare Myth (Cipher Value 89166) -



Bacon, like Moses, led us forth at last,
The barren wilderness he past,
Did on the very border stand
Of the blest promis'd land,
And from the mountain's top of his exalted wit,
Saw it himself, and shew'd us it.



Us?



In Shakespeare Myth, the Stratfordian is Everyman - you, me, and all the other
ignorant but arrogant worldly Yahoos - whose appearance on the Stage of the
World is recorded as the 'baptism' of Gulielmus, filius Johannes Shakspere,
17252, on April 26, 1564, and whose exit is recorded at The End, 100, as the
'burial' of Will Shakspere gent, 10026, on April 25, 1616.



As in 17252 + 2602 +1564 + 100 + 10026 + 2502 + 1616 = 35662.



P.S. There are two kinds of folks in the world - the know-it-alls and the
know-it-alls, with the difference between the two residing in the "all" both
profess to know.



----- Original Message -----
From: judson chambers
To: gunnar.tomasson@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:55 PM
Subject: Well wishing...


Hello Gunnar,



I haven't seen any recent writings from your good self recently. I'm trusting
you are sufficiently well, but that you are writing in other forums.



I've been quite busy myself. I'm undergoing an overhaul in home furnishing and
in a new computer network system, so that I haven't interacted very much in the
last several months.



I should be able to present some useful offerings in the near future however.



In the meantime be well and advise me.



Regards, Jud


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