This subject matter fascinates me to no avail. I am heavily into
studying the Uranometria among other topics. And this central subject
happens to be a piece to the bigger puzzle. The writer at the site
and in this posting below is on to the " real culprits " on all
fronts. My questions to members and the group as a whole are these :

1.)Is the Torah part of the Kaballa-Cabbala ( among other various
spellings ) and if there is proof it is then can I find that or can
someone explain more in detail on that subject ?

2.)What else can group members help to open my eyes to that I may not
know about when it comes to this type of subject matter that
obviously has a connection to finding out "what the real deal is"
when it comes to the bible vs torah vs the signs in the stars vs
where we stand on Creator vs Big Bang ?

( Sorry if it is a lot to ask but as I said I am truly involved with
this research and the path it has led me to thus far is amazing to
say the least and I can't seem to let it go.Thanks for any assistance
with this matter in advance.)


--- In torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com, "malkuth27000" <nospam13254@...>
wrote:
>
> "torahcosmos" group memebers: you may use (copy) this text (at best
> without this intial note) whereeverto you want to spread the word of
> the truth about religions, especially book-religions and the
torahic ones.
>
>
> I can prove that there are really (man made) codes in the Torah.
Codes
> that measure the cycles of planetary orbits to describe a hermetic
> truth like that circumcision is nothing but the limits of vision.
>
> The Lesser Proof for Astrology in the Torah
>
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>
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>
> For a starting proof, that planetary cycles could have had a meaning
> to the writers of the Torah (who may have been all contemporaries),
> read Genesis 15.17: And it came to pass, that, when the sun went
down,
> and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that
> passed between those pieces. While "those pieces" (vulgata:
divisiones
> illas) is sometimes translated as divided animals (because of
15.10),
> the absolute number of this verse, 378, is the visibility cycle of
the
> planet Saturn and the "lamp or light that passes between the divided
> animals" may be Saturn, known as the protecting star of Israel, on
> it's path along the ecliptic, the solar system plane, that virtually
> divides the zodiakal signs into two halves, upper and lower.
>
> In 15.9 three zodiac-compatible animals are named that are divided
in
> 15.10: the heifer matches to Taurus, the she-goat to Capricorn and
the
> ram to Aries. Consider these are the animals. A furnace though is a
> symbol for man (alchemy), that is Aquarius. A feature is, that
> Capricorn, Aquarius, Aries and Taurus together with Pisces as a gap
> between Aquarius and Aries, are all adjacent one after annother and
> forming a 150-degree (5 o'clock) sector of the whole zodiac.
>
> 150 degrees here is not just as significant as any angel. For 150
> degrees viz. 5 signs Saturn takes 4483 days. That are 150 days more
> than a revolution of Jupiter and especially in that time Saturn was
> 11.8 times visible, while a revolution of Jupiter takes 11.8 years.
> This means, after Jupiter has passed all 12 signs, it takes 150 days
> or 5 months more for Earth to have passed Saturn allmost 12 times
and
> in a harmony with Jupiter, while Saturn itself moves 5 degrees in
> those 150 days.
>
> Astronomers know, that Saturn, when it is passing earth, for about
> five weeks appears like moving backwards because of our perspective
> from Earth. Astronomers call that retrograde motion and Saturn has a
> retrograde motion for around 136 days (see external reference John
> Pratt's planetary observation for a detailed description of the
> retrograde motion of planets). In our verse-as-day sheme, the
> retrograde motion of Saturn would take from Genesis 15.17,
where "the
> lamp" is seen (a lamp is a spot from which light emerges, a star in
> terms of non-astrophysicans), until Genesis 21.
>
> Also if one adds the 150 days as verses to the 365th Verse that is
> called Genesis 15.4 (a year), you end up in the beginning of Genesis
> 21, where Isaak, the 21th patriarch is born. The text of the 365th
> verse (Genesis 15.4) writes, that Bram will get a son. 150 verses
> later, that son is born. This must have a clear reason that will be
> revealed, but now let's whatch the structure, where still some
details
> have to be told.
>
> Genesis 15.17 is the verse of a Saturn appearance with a sligth clue
> to Jupiter. The verse of a Jupiter appearance though is the 399th
> verse, called Genesis 17.1.
>
> The Kabbalah explains: in the Sepher Yetzirah (the important ancient
> hebrew scripture about the hebrew letters) the two zodiacal signs
> which are ruled by Saturn, i.e. on one hand Capricorn, the beast or
> animal and on the other hand Aquarius, the man, are attributed to
the
> hebrew letters 15 and 17 (Aleph: 0, not gematria is meant here but
> numeral index) and that are the numeral identifiers of the verse
that
> is observed here.
>
> Numeral identifiers are said to be no part of the Torah, but only
the
> arbitrary clerical retrieve system. From these numbers one can tell
> something. Consider, that the chapter is 15 and the 15th patriarch
is
> Peleg, whose name means division, the divison of man (Gen 10.25),
that
> meets the division of beast (Gen 15.10). Whew, you can get a lot out
> of this by meditating on it. To this also consider Revelation 13.18,
> where the number of the beast is the number of a man.
>
> You have to look up the traditional astrological meanings of Saturn
> and will find, that they match the content of Genesis 15, especially
> the thing about slavery. Further note, that that slavery is told to
> take 400 years, while 400 is the number of the hebrew letter Taw,
that
> has Index 21 in the hebrew Alephbeth (Alep: 0) an that the Sepher
> Yetzirah identifies with Saturn (see Bill Heidrick's). Taw is also
> identified with Saturn today by the Tarot.
>
> Yeah, the torah uses planetary cycles to symbolise cosmic (inner)
> principles rather than a concrete time of calendar. For example the
> Octaeteris, which is a Venus (imagination) cycle is used in double,
> just as the Shamayim (Heavens) in Genesis 1.1 is a pair, in the
middle
> of which the circumcision and crowning of Aaron (meaning: the
> enlightened) are placed. hence the circumcision is annother word for
> "limits of vision". Circumcision is not something, that must be done
> to someone on his 8 day (an Ocateteris measuers 8 years viz 99
> lunation, the age of Abram/Abraham at circumcision) but teh
> circumcision is teh principle of the limits of vision that allready
is
> naturally there, especially since the developement of the ego. It
must
> be accepted, therefore/hence understood so that one can deal with
it.
>
> On annother level Torah measures the years since the destruction of
> Atlantis. Rather read any of my material. Newest topics are found in
> my newsletter through the bottom of my pages.
>
> In Verse Genesis 16.16 (twice 16 are 32) Abram measures 86 years and
> 86 is the value of ELOHYM, meaning Gods, traditionally 7 of them.
> While one God or rather The God is the enternal archetypical cycle
of
> creation, destruction and existance, a definite number of Gods
however
> are more concrete cyles, e.g. those of planets. This is so in any
> relgion, f.e. also the hindu with its kala (time) and yuga (cycles),
> whose large numbers are indeed packed information and can be
computed
> to useable astronomical values.
>
> The Torah with it's 16 years viz 5844 verses is the House of God
> (Mansion Dieu or Tarot Card 16, The Tower). This house is divided in
> several nested and sequential rooms like is the house of the
Barbapapa
> (a japanese anime series). Within my scribes I do reveal that artist
> all over the world know the truth, while church and politicans
> obfuscate it.
>
> 7 ELOHYM 86 is because 86.5 lunations measure 2555 days viz 7 years
> (Verse 17.1 then measures to be the 399th Verse viz 13.5 lunations).
> In the beginning of Genesis 1.1 is a new-moon. Isaak, Abraham and
> Ismael are measured by full-moons. Hence the point 5.
>
> 2555 is five times 511 whereas thrice 511 is the Genesis and these
511
> each are one of the rings in the Hitomi-Function of the Eye or pupil
> (jap. Hitomi) through which the atlantean Pictures can be seen. Note
> that Platon wrote his Atlantis in 360 (!) BC. This has been all a
plan
> which I (eye) see through more and more.
>
> Note that thrice the value 360 appears in verse 1022 (twice 511) as
> the word Shem-Cha, your name [shall be Is.ra.el - Man.sees.God -
> through the Eyes viz concrete cycles].
>
> In chapter 17 the limits of vision are revealed. This is called
> circumcision. Venus is exalted in Pisces, where the two Towers on
the
> Card are the two Octaeteris cycles of Abram 99 and Abraham 99. On my
> card the towers have windows, because each tower is one Hey letter
of
> the name IHVH.
>
> In the inside of the event-horizont of any black hole viz pupil or
eye
> is the one invisible Jay. All insides of event-horizonts are
actually
> one inside.
>
> The 13 years of Ismael besides the middle are half of the value of
> IHVH. In total the Torah has 26 sideral venuscycles viz 16 years.
> Twice 16 are the rays around the moon on card 18, representing the
> paths of the tree.
>
> From tarot cards 5 and 6 we can see that the Way is besides the Hey.
> While the Hey represents sight, the Way represents Hearing, just
like
> Is.ma.el means Man.hears.God.
>
> The limits of Ismael are made clear together with Abraham in the
> middle like the Way is in the middle. In Taurus viz key 6 the moon
is
> exalted, while venus rules, that itself is exalted in pisces, the
feet
> on the yellow brick road. Jupiter rules in Pisces, just the Jupiter
> that becomes visible again in Verse 399, Genesis 17.1, but
> mathematically only 0.22 days after the full moon (cites: "...walk
> before me", while also "me" is annother japanese word for Eye, here
> the red spot Eye of Jupiter). Somehow this explains that the path on
> that one really walks is made only from the 22 major arcana. The 10
of
> Jay's singularity are allways and everywhere inherent, just as the
> full Torah measures 10 geocentric venusrounds. This is all one can
> imagine and the door that leads beyond.
>
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