Thanks for sending a copy of the translatd article in English.

wjm


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: A. G. Szabo
   To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:05 PM
   Subject: [torahcosmos] Sohar-Eyes article translated to englisch





   This is a handmade translation of http://otaku.onlinehome.de/auge.html made by
Rouven Grossman, resident of Jerusalem, Israel.

   "This article is concerned with the symbol of the Eye as it is hidden in the
Torah (original Moses books) and the paraphrases about it from the Zohar (Holly
Book of Kabbalah). For that there are explanations given and ways of meaning
offered. It's also about the existence of pictures that are coded in the Torah
by means of Gematria and the Eye-topology, which are called "Countenances of
God" in the Zohar."

   please continue at http://theoryoftorah.blogspot.com/2009/06/eye-of-lord.html





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

This is a handmade translation of http://otaku.onlinehome.de/auge.html made by
Rouven Grossman, resident of Jerusalem, Israel.

"This article is concerned with the symbol of the Eye as it is hidden in the
Torah (original Moses books) and the paraphrases about it from the Zohar (Holly
Book of Kabbalah). For that there are explanations given and ways of meaning
offered. It's also about the existence of pictures that are coded in the Torah
by means of Gematria and the Eye-topology, which are called "Countenances of
God" in the Zohar."

please continue at http://theoryoftorah.blogspot.com/2009/06/eye-of-lord.html

Andreas, I managed to translate most of the your webpage using Babel Fish
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

Place your website address into the window space where it says
Translate a Web Page
http://www.majorchaos.de/augen.html

Then underneath that select
German to English and then click on Translate

It is not a 100% translation but it is good enough for me

Many Thanks
Mickey (Michael)

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From: "A. G. Szabo" <torahcosmos@...>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:17 AM
To: <torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [torahcosmos] new german article about the eyes i discovered

> Hi all people around there,
>
> i am happy to tell you that i wrote a new article about the eye(s) in
> the torah, related to the sohar. in fact the SOHAR proves my thesis!
>
> the article is currently only available in german.
>
> http://www.majorchaos.de/augen.html
>
> greets,
> Andreas G. Szabo (list owner)

Dear Andreas G. Szabo:

You must get your article in English.  Just from the numbers they
seem to coincide with some work that I have already worked with.

Also type in the name of my paper on the Internet on the Sistine
Chapel:
THE SISTINE CHAPEL: A Study in Celestial Cartography - I think you
will be surprise at the esoteric nature of the chapel.

Bill Meegan


--- In torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com, "A. G. Szabo" <torahcosmos@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi all people around there,
>
> i am happy to tell you that i wrote a new article about the eye(s)
in
> the torah, related to the sohar. in fact the SOHAR proves my thesis!
>
> the article is currently only available in german.
>
> http://www.majorchaos.de/augen.html
>
> greets,
> Andreas G. Szabo (list owner)
>

Hi all people around there,

i am happy to tell you that i wrote a new article about the eye(s) in
the torah, related to the sohar. in fact the SOHAR proves my thesis!

the article is currently only available in german.

http://www.majorchaos.de/augen.html

greets,
Andreas G. Szabo (list owner)

Every Letter is a "god". The God is "the Alphabet". In the word ALPHA is a code.

H is Pi - divide it out. The remainder of the word is ALPA. L-A=12-1=11; P-A
=16-1=15. Your design is "OK" when you have 11 and 15 letters sets, but you have
still
far too go to solve for the placements. Regarding the O and the K, or the 15 and
the
11, we show that this deals in Symmetry and Assymmetry.

A is symmetrical
B is assymmetrical

There are 11 Symmetrical Letters. They are as follows:

AHIMOTUVWXY

There are 15 Assymmetrical Letters. They are as follows:

BCDEFGJKLNPQRSZ

OK? 11-15 Understand the "mighty OaK", and how it covers the life that revolves
around the shedding and growing of its leaves, of how there is a revealing and a
hiding. There is tale to be heard in the "might OaK".

Observe our "gods". They are as a word "unknowable and unspeakable". Each can be
enunciated, and from their pallet can all things be said. Understand the balance
between a pallet that paints and a pallet that tastes. Understand the
relationship to the
"tongue" and "speech".

Observe the Symmetry and the Assymmetry. What do you see? A pattern of 6
Symmetrical
Letters at the END of the sequence is followed by a pattern of 6 Assymmetrical
Letters at
the beginning of the sequence. The "serpent eats its own tale".

TUVWXY (ZA) BCDEFG

Let us seek "the center", for as it is said, if truth be found, it will be found
in the center.

JKL-M-N-O-PQRS-TUVWXY-Z-A-BCDEFG-HI

Cipher the H as the Greek Letter P(i)...devour the tale.

HI = PI = JKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFG

Count them.

JKL = 3
N = 1
PQRS = 4
Z = 1
BCDEFG = 6

HI = PI = 3.1416

The Word of the Masons resolved.

Study the Letters Again

TUVWXY (ZA) BCDEFG

Note the 6 digits (3 pairs) of mirrored letters that are formed in "the Word",
and
understand that "the Word" is really the first 32 decimal digits of Pi.



3.14159265358979323846264338327950

Study "the Unknowable and Unspeakable Word". Ordo ab Chaos. Order from Chaos.

There are 6 digits (3 pairs) of mirrored letters that formed in "the Word".

The Letters TUVWXY represent this 3 pair sequence. Where they go remains to be
solved,
but indeed, it is solved. The Key is Z. There are 22 Major Arcanum and the O is
the Fool.
Find the Zero and set the Z. The Letters will fall into place.

There are two Keys. The 1 and the 26, and the divisions thereof. If you "GOT
it", do you
"have it"? Or do you "Halve it"?

ABCDEFGHIJKLM-NOPQRSTUVWXYZ

M is 13
N is 14

If you GOT it, do you "halve it"?

T is the Winter Solstice
G is the Spring Equinox

6 is the FVorite number.

Let me explain. If truth be found, it will be found in the middle (Shakespeare).
We have
divided the Word in half to reveal itself, and if we divide the Word in half
again, we arrive
at the Root (consonants) of G-T.

ABCDEFGHIJKLM-NOPQRSTUVWXYZ

Note now the 6 digits on each side of the G and the 6 digits on each side of the
T existent
on their respective sides of the Alphabet (Word). Your key word is "SOLSTICE".
Divide it in
half.

SOL'S = Sun's = The Sun at Noon Zenith on the Summer "sol's"T"ice"
T
ICE = "something frozen" = The Sun at Noon Zenith on the Winter "sol's"T"ice".

"The Christ will be born 3 days after the Winter Solstice - a traditional tale
revolving
around the "rebirth of the Sun "god"'. This places the Solstice date at December
22 for the
Christ will be borne on the 25. He is born on "the Letter T" (note the inversion
of "born
again via the cross" shifted 90 degrees and set at the Spring Birthing Rites - a
willful
corruption designed to destroy and confuse).

The Letter T, having 6 digits/letters before it, then, is the 7th Letter from
both the
"beginning and the end". His (Christ's)birth date is the 25, yet the traditional
tale is that
the Sun god died for 3 days (the period where the Sun appears to not rise or
fall on the
horizon at the Winter Solstice) and then is born on 3 days hence. This then is
the 22 day
+3 to arrive at 25 as the tradition birth date (see Secret Teachings of All
Ages).

It should be noted, wherein too, "GOD" (the Code of GOT(T), as encoded into the
story of
"Genesis", having "created the world (Word) rested on the "7th day (letter)",
for both G and
T are the 7th letters respective on their half (hence GOT = HAVE = HALVE), to
reveal, of
course, "the Word".

T = Winter or Summer Solstice = 22 day over 7 letter = 22/7 = 3.1428571 =
Recipricol 7
Pi

G = Spring or Fall Equinox = 22 day over 7 letter = 22/7 = 3.1428571 =
Recipricol 7 Pi

The design of G is that it is C as the "sphere of the Earth" + "T", wherein T
represents "the
Equator", whereas in G, the Sun is at the Center of the Earth's sphere as a
process of being
at "the Equator", wherein the day and the night are precisely the same length of
time. The
phonetic of G and C (Guh and "K"uh) share phonetic values, and so there is a
further cipher
of the Hebrew being Alef (A), Beth (, Gimmel (G), wherein G will at times equal
3. A classic
case of this is the word PREGNANT

PRE =
GN = 3.14 (N is the 14 Letter
ANT = suffix, wherein the Ant has a general meaning of "worker human".

All of this, of course, deals in the fundementals, every bit as much as if we
were practicing
our scales while we learn to play a musical instrument. As we hear the scales
repeated
over and over and we gain proficiency at the exercise, we are able to hear the
music
(borne of the same patterns as the Scales) as they begin to speak to us.

We have shown that if you GOT IT, you must "halve it". Since Pi is "the Word" is
the Key (set
against the 26 = GOD = 7+15+4 = 26), then the phrase "If you GOT it do you "have
it" (for surely if I HAVE SOMETHING, I "got" it) is a homonym code telling of
the specific
placement of the Letters G and T. Halve it (to reveal Pi), then "halve it
again", to set your
markers for GOD (who rests on the 7th Letter/Day).

-------22---------------22-------
ABCDEF-G-HIJKLM-NOPQRS-T-UVWXYZ
------- 7----------------7--------

GOT IT? GOOD!

The importance of the 6 (S-IX) starts to be revealed, for what have we done? The
very code
above was encoded into the "PAGAN" calendar. Everything is shifted by a factor
of 6 weeks.

And notice again the 6 digits (3 pair) on each side of the 26...

-------22---------------22-------
ABCDEF-G-HIJKLM-NOPQRS-T-UVWXYZ
------- 7----------------7--------


ABCDE-F
12345-6

32 Digits of Pi (decimal). Is there much difference between decimal and
decimate?

FFFF = 6666 = The Solar Wheel =

-------22---------------22-------
ABCDEF-G-HIJKLM-NOPQRS-T-UVWXYZ
------- 7----------------7--------


And still, the Key is Z. Find the O in Pi, place the Z, and the 6 digits/letters
will fall into
place.

((http://groups.yahoo.com/group/isisiancodes/))

(continued)

SEVEN        Growth resumes, but in place of cellular growth (stage 6) there is
now Social growth. And in a human context, the height of social growth is
Civilization, with its institutions:  governmental, economic, religious,
scientific, artistic, educational, etc. In the geometrical sequence, we might
think of this as a multitude of expanding spheres, which expansion makes
civilizations imperialistic, encroaching on one an- other's territory.

Seven is derived as 3+4, making it the second and last Sum in the sequence. It
is also the largest sum and the sum of female-male, time-space, so SAGITTARIUS
is associated with large size, ripeness, maturity and winning at contests,
complete development, classics. The emblem of this sign is an archer, shooting
an arrow upward and forward, indicating the Aspiration to higher things that is
associated with this sign. And as it is also concerned with bringing youth to
maturity, this the sign of the Teacher.

EIGHT     Expanding spheres (stage 8) tend to expand against each other, thus
creating lines of Limitation between them. These boundary lines move back and
forth as one sphere expands (7) and the other contracts (8). An example is the
Millenia-long conflict between Western Civilization and Middle Eastern
Civilization. It began around 700 B.C. between the Greeks and the Phoenicians.
And it continued between the Greeks and the Persian Empire, until the latter was
conquered by Alexander. That conquest initiated a thousand year occupation of
Middle Eastern territory by the Greeks and then the Romans. So the line of
limitation between the two civilizations was shifted far to the east.

The occupation was ended by the rise of Islam, under which banners the middle
easterners counter-attacked, regaining lost territory and more. The line of
limitation between the two was shifted into the West, into Spain, and under the
Ottoman Turks, it was shifted into and over Anatolia. The western Crusaders made
a short-lived attempt to counter-attack, but their success was only brief. The
Ottoman Empire then expanded over the Balkans , westward all the way to Budapest
at one time.

Eight is a double Four. As four was the stage of Structure, Eight is a double,
or intensified structure. We might call it Inner Structure. Thus the interest of
CAPRICORN (8) in finding out the inner-structure of things, by Study. Examples
are delving into the inner structure of the atom in physics, and into the inner
structure of the cell in biology. And it might be congruent with this to think
of the geometrical figure of stage Eight as contracting spheres.

The emblem for this stage is a mountain goat with a fish's rear body, suggesting
the upper and lower Limitations of earth-bound life. And another major
limitation is here reached. A movement began with stage Three, the opposite
sign, CANCER. That sign of birth, after the duality of the preceding GEMINI,
gave birth to the whole world of duality-opposition. But in duality, everything
that begins must have an end. And CAPRICORN (8) is the limit or end of what
began in stage Three. From birth (3) to end (8) and back to birth again. This is
thus a Cyclic end, recycling over and over and over again. And everything in it
is based on the ambiguity of two points (GEMINI (2), which keep changing by
reversing polarity. There is thus an implicit illusory quality to the
CANCER-CAPRICORN Round. Everything is changing and there is no permanent
identity. It is the stuff that dreams are made of. And the recirculating cycles
keep repeating over and over again. As the American playwright
Eugene O'Neil said despairingly (and not quite correctly), "There is no present,
no future. There is only the past, repeating over and over and over again". It
is from this Dream Round that some people aspire to escape, to awake.

The Archer's arrow (7) aspiring to go beyond the repeating Round, falls short.
In a dualistic world, what goes up must come down. That is another Limit which
is reached here.

The rhythm of expansion-contraction, expansion (7)-contraction (8) sets up a
back-and-forth swinging between the two polarities, a tide-like alternation that
reminds us of the swinging arc of CANCER (3). So from stage Eight (8) CAPRICORN,
we suddenly find ourselves back at stage Three again. And we are about to be
born into another Round of the repeating dream cycle. In the End (8) there is
only new beginning.

And the universe itself is said to be in a rhythm of expansion and contraction.

TEN     Ten is not counted, because it is Zero again.

ELEVEN     As we have seen cellular life (6) and social life, Civilization (7)
we now consider Individual life (11).  But it is a particular form of individual
life that is meant. It is the individual who goes beyond the contradictions of
Duality, beyond the tempting allure of the Dream Round (3-8). He or she is
detached from the apparent reality of existence. As Eleven is the new One, the
individual finds reunion, the new Unity. For example, in the Bible, Joseph
presides over a great reunion of his family. And he is "set apart from his
brothers", i.e. a unique individual. He is number Eleven among the brothers in
Genesis 49.

As Joseph was morally incorruptible, another figure is raised again from the
corruption of death, apparently to physical incorruption. That is Lazarus, who's
story is presented in chapter Eleven of the gospel of John. We might cite two
more examples: John the Baptist takes the place of Malachi, "My messenger" the
last book in the Old Testament. Malachi is number Eleven among the minor
prophets. And Elijah and Elisha are two men in one spirit, representing the
function of this stage to reconcile opposites. When they first meet, the younger
man (Elisha) is plowing with twelve pair of oxen. He sacrifices one pair,
leaving Eleven. They occupy position number Eleven in the zodiac from Abraham
(1) to King Josiah (13). And they reappear in the Bible's last book, the book of
"Revelation", as the Two Witnesses --- in chapter Eleven.

But few people attain this degree of reconciliation. Most fall far short, so far
as falling into the condition of fallen (divided) man and woman, LEO (4) and
CANCER (3). An example of this short-coming is the tale of Samson and Delilah,
locked in their fatal embrace. He is identified as LEO by fighting with a lion,
and she as CANCER by coming from a river valley (flow, running water). They
occupy place number Eleven in the book of Judges. Another example is found in
the Grail-story, "Parzifal", where Gawan fights with a lion, in chapter Eleven.
The true AQUARIAN in "Parzifal" is apparently his brother Feirefiz who learns to
see the Grail. He, "stayed (at the Grail castle) for Eleven days, and departed
on the twelfth". In this sequence, Eleven is the twelfth number.

            0  1  2  3  4  12  5  6  9  7  8  11  13

We might call that the Torah sequence.

Eleven is the new One, but unlike the first unity (1) Eleven is not followed by
Division (2). Hence it remains together, incorruptible in a way.

The zodiac sign of this stage is AQUARIUS, the water carrier. The air is the
carrier of water that evaporates from the sea, evaporation thus representing
detachment, refinement. The emblem or glyph for AQUARIUS is the Human Being.

THIRTEEN     Thirteen is Beyond the universe of Twelve, as Zero is Before it.
They share the same sign, ARIES, the Ram. We might show this stage in a
quotation from the beginning of the gospel of John, with a suggested
translation:

       In the beginning was the Original Intelligence (Greek: Logos). And the
Original Intelligence was
       with God. It was of the same nature as God. By it were all things made ...
And it came and lives
      among us.

There are two ARIES (13), a false on and a true one. For example, in Genesis 49
the list of brothers concludes with Benjamin. As Aries the Ram he should be the
leader of his sheep ,his flock. But instead he is described as, "a ravening
wolf". He is a false shepherd, a false ARIES (13). The true Thirteen appears in
the next book (Exodus) as Moses, the good shepherd who leads his flock to the
promised land. He is the true ARIES (13).

Again we might cite the two tales of false Levites that concludes the Book of
Judges.They are false Thirteens. the true Thirteen appears in the next book as
Samuel, the Final Judge.

Ahaz and Manasseh are false Thirteens in the zodiac from Abraham to Josiah. Then
the true Thirteens appears as Hezekiah and Josiah, the Reforming Kings. And all
three of these --- True Shepherd, Final Judge and Reforming King --- are summed
up in the New Testament in the figure of Jesus Christ. He appears in the
sequence after the False Thirteen, Judas Iscariot, the Betrayer.

Jesus Christ, as the Original Intelligence, enters the fallen , divided, world
of the CANCER---CAPRICORN Round. And he takes upon himself the most conspicuous
role, the sacrificial king LEO (4) in order to encourage people to leave the
fallen, divided, world, to awaken from the dream.

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TWELVE  When we combine the numbers of a major pair of opposites in the basic
unit (1-4) --- the flow of Time (female 3) and the structure of Space (male 4)
--- we have their product as 3x4=12. Thus in this sequence, step number Twelve
is the entire time-space continuum, the Totality. And now, in the astrophysical
field, the expanding universe is filled by a uniform cloud of hydrogen atoms
(along with a small percentage of helium). We might refer to this as the
universal theater, where all the dramas of female (3) and male (4) of time and
space, and other opposites, will be played out. Nothing is yet actualized, but
everything is possible. It is like a fog, where any kind of shape might be
imagined, but nothing is ever defined.

The universal fog is unlimited, so this number Twelve is represented by PISCES,
the Fishes, for the ocean, as an image of infinite expanse, a Totality. And this
totality includes not only the past development of the universe, but all  future
growth as well.

As an example of Three (CANCER) and Four (LEO)  working together, consider the
flowing circulation of the blood, like a stream of running water (3) and the
pumping of the heart, with its Four-chambered  structure. The heartbeat is in
two parts, systole and diastole, suggesting the strong and weak sides of lame
Leo.

FIVE   The two focal points of the ellipse (4) now coalesce into a single point.
This causes the perimeter to become a Circle, and concentric circles. This
return to the pristine point of unity might be why stage Five is associated with
virginity, as VIRGO (5). That is only one way in which stage Five might be said
to look backward rather than forward. VIRGO is the last sign of the first half
of the standard zodiac. So as a minor End it is backward looking or at least
motionless. The motionless character is also indicated by Five being the Middle
number in the sequence we are using here (and the Bible uses).

      0   1   2   3   4   12   5   6   9   7   8   11   13

The middle looks neither forward nor backward, but is stationary, as is the
center of a circle. So in Genesis 49 Issachar (5) is described as "lying down",
i.e. motionless. And in the book of Joshua (5), Joshua conquers Jericho by 
leading a march around its perimeter, encircling it. In that book God makes the
sun and the moon stand still in the middle of the sky.

Further, the circle rotates around one of its diameters to become a Sphere. So
stage Five has two geometrical figures of movement.

Number Five is the first Sum in the sequence. (Number Four might better be
regarded as a doubling of the same number. And Three is not Two plus One because
One is unity, and there is nothing else to add it to.). So the first Sum is
2+3=5. Thus the summarizing, comprehensive work of VIRGO, shaping and arranging
everything in its proper order in the universal theater. (As a similar but
fictional summation or Summa, compare the "Comedia" of Dante. And for his
historical position as VIRGO, see "Great Cycles of History", Age of PISCES, Era
of VIRGO.)

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In terms of astrophysics, the all-encompassing concentric circles, suggest a
Summation of everything. Thus this is the stage in which all the matter in the
universal theater is differentiated and defined. Gravity pulls groups of atoms
together into galaxies and stars and planets. And in the stars, all the heavier
elements are formed. Also in this step the chemical compounds are formed. So
this is a stage of tremendous labor, fitting the VIRGO reputation for tireless
work. And as the two focal points of the ellipse coalesced, we might say that
the matter of the universe coalesces in this stage to form the catalog of
heavenly bodies. As the previous stage was likened to a universal theater, in
this present step Five all the furniture of the theater is shaped and is
arranged in its proper place in the all-encompassing design. So the stage is
set. The astrophysical, preparatory steps are complete. In the second half of
the sequence we will enter the realm of the Biosphere.

SIX     Life. Now, into the universal theater is introduced the cast of
characters. The living ones are all based on the cell. There are two geometrical
figures-of-movement in this stage: The Sphere is carried over from the previous
step. But now it looks forward, so to speak, rather than backward,as (LIBRA 6)
is the beginning of the second half of the standard zodiac. And it looks forward
to the second figure derived from the circle: the Helix. As the helix turns
around its perimeter, while moving forward into the third dimension, it might be
called the "discovery figure" of three dimensions.

Apparently all forms of cellular life, from the amoeba to human beings, are
based on the DNA molecule. And the shape of that molecule, as recently
discovered, is a double Helix.

Number Six is derived here as 3+3 or Three on each side. With Three on each side
there is a Balance.But as the swinging arc of that step is always in motion, the
is also the potential for imbalance. We cannot have Balance with out its
opposite being possible. Thus this stage is likened to the balance scales,
LIBRA, and specifically the balance scales of Justice.

This balance step is the stage of Compromise, of diplomacy.

NINE     Death. Number Nine is Three squared, or the first higher "power" of
Three. And as Three is relatively incoherent, the power of incoherence is
Disintegration. But such decay frees
life from old forms and prepares the way to new growth. Nine is out of place in
the sequence, perhaps in order to directly oppose TAURUS (1) unity, where Place
is all-important. SCORPIO opposes Taurus in the standard zodiac. In the Bible,
this is the stage of Satan, the great Serpent. And a serpent is a great
swallower, as is death. This is the stage of the Antagonist, the Rebel.

The "geometrical" figure of Nine, SCORPIO, is the Vortex, which is derived from
the helix of stage Six, producing a spinning funnel-shape. This can appear as a
whirlpool, and as a destructive tornado, a "twister". Thus where Libra (6) tends
toward compromise, SCORPIO is the step of uncompromising Commitment, to one side
or the other, war. In the Bible, stage Nine is represented by Saul, the
rebellious king, always having his spear at his side, like a scorpion's sting.

The three preceding stages can also represent the three faces of the Great
Mother Goddess, Cancer (3)  who gives birth to all things:

VIRGO  (5)  the virgin              For example, Greek Artemis (Latin Diana)
LIBRA   (6)  the sexual partner, nubile woman         Aphrodite (Venus)
SCORPIO (9)  the  hag, witch                                Hecate

The Moon and Time also have three phases.

                                      (to be continued)

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In the best of the Grail stories --- "Parzifal" by Wolfram von Eschenbach (c.
1210 A.D.)---there is a numerical structure to the work, a structure that is
also used in the Bible. What follows is an attempt to apply that same structure,
a sequence of numbers, to the origin and development of the universe.

"Recounting" can mean counting again or telling a story. And "tell" can also
mean counting or telling a story. Can the story of the Universe be told from
counting  a sequence of numbers? And at the same time is the ancient Zodiac
involved in this? Suppose we start the count at Zero and see what happens.

ZERO     "Nothing". But then there is an event --- shall we call it the Big
Bang? And that "Nothing"---"explodes" to become Something. Can we equate that
sudden rush of activity with the first sign of the zodiac? With ARIES the Ram,
always driving forward?

ONE     "Something". The first substantial number. But what that something is we
cannot say, because in Unity (1) their is no identity, no articulate speech. We
might however associate this stage with the first figure of Geometry, the single
Point. Does that Something exist? It cannot be said, because to say yes or no
would be to engage in duality (2) opposition, which stage has not yet arrived.
So whatever we say about this stage or the previous one is a dualistic
approximation of unity (1).

This stage where everything is in a single point should not be imagined as all
the matter of the universe being compressed into a tiny space, because as yet
there is no matter, no time or space. There is just pure energy in a
dimensionless situation.

One being the first substantial number, this stage has the character of
solidity, like a rock and foundation. Hence the classification of this step as
"fixed earth", and its analogy to a Bull: TAURUS. And just as the previous stage
was the first Start, this, being the first Place (point) is also the first Stop.
And to indicate how the numbers spontaneously give rise to stories, the Bible
calls this first place the garden of Eden, where Adam-and-Eve live in unity (1)
until their Fall into Division (2).

In astrophysics this is called the stage of "perfect symmetry" where everything
is the same as everything else.

TWO     Division, opposition, conflict. The single point divides into opposite
poles. Now there is contrast, hence identity "A" is "A" by virtue of being "Not
B". Now articulation is possible. And the identities that appear are sub-atomic
particles, the best known being perhaps the Quarks. They are the basic building
blocks of matter, and occur only in pairs, polar opposites..So this stage of
division is represented as GEMINI the Twins The name "quark" was taken from the
book "Finnegans Wake" by James Joyce, a book which is based on the same
numerical-geometrical sequence as is followed here..

In the Bible Genesis story Two is counted in the persons of the brothers Abel
and Cain, a pair of opposites in conflict. Cain kills his brother, indicating
the nature of the fallen (divided) world as a place of conflict and
contradiction.

The geometrical figure for stage Two is the straight line between the opposite
poles.


THREE    As the young universe continues to expand, lowering both temperature
and pressure, the quarks bond together to form hadrons, such as the proton and
the neutron. These are the future atomic nuclei. And their bondage will last for
all time. This stage might be regarded as the beginning of Time also in another
way. The state of matter there is a Plasma, which has been described as a
nuclear soup, which apparently is a flowing condition. This situation is also
found in the geometrical figure for step Three. A third point appears,
oscillating between the two polar opposites. Its path is a curve. But this
bending arc has no fixed path, as there is no dimensional context in which to
fix its route. So its course is unpredictable and infinitely variable,
suggesting a Flow, which we might liken to the flow of Time. And to the
back-and-forth swinging of the tides.

As it moves both forward and backward, the path of stage Three resembles an
animal that walks both forward and backward, the crab. And it lives in the tidal
zone, the most fertile part of the sea.. So this part of the zodiac is called
CANCER, the Crab.

Following Unity (1) and Duality (2) Three is the stage of Multiplicity.
Unlimited multiplicity can also be read as Fertility, which combined with the
flowing nature of this step, make it the stage of the Female archetype. She is
often thought of as the Great Goddess, for example Inanna, Ishtar, Astarte,
Isis, Demeter, Cybelle.  And unlimited multiplicity can seem like a flood after
the restriction of duality. Indeed that is how Genesis portrays it, as the
world-wide Flood, where breeding pairs of all animals were saved.

This stage (3) is "Ruled" by the Moon, the ruler of the tides. The Moon has
three phases --- waxing, full and waning, just as there are three phases to
Time, past, present and future.

FOUR   Now the swinging arc of Stage Three fixes its path in one direction and
swings all the way around to form an orbit. As the two opposing points of step
Two are still present to serve as focal points, the new orbit is an Ellipse.
With its two axes at right angles to each other, and its fixed perimeter, this
is the first Structure of the sequence. And it corresponds to atomic structure.
As the universe continues to expand and temperature and pressure are lowered,
electrons are able to stay in orbit around protons, forming Hydrogen. This is
also the stage of the appearance of the structure of Space, which allows photons
to move freely about, thus permitting the advent of Light. But if the structure
of the ellipse is any guide, it would appear that this first structure of space
is somehow only two dimensional.

In the Bible story Noah builds the world's first structure, the Ark, and thus
overcomes the flood. He restores coherence to the world after the flood. But
then he gets drunk, losing his coherence. He falls from his strong side onto his
weak side, limping, as it were.
As the two axes of the ellipse might also be called "legs", one long and one
short, it suggests a limp. Or considering it as one leg, alternately long and
short, it is clear why this is the stage of the Male principle. And if there is
any humor in this, it was in the plan from the beginning.

The male archetype was often represented in the ancient pagan religion as the
divine and sacrificial King, consort of the Goddess. Such kings or gods were
Gilgamesh, Tammuz, Osiris, Dionysus, Oedipus. And inherently the king or god is
lame. Such lameness takes many forms. For example King Gilgamesh and Enkidu are
related as the strong and weak sides of LEO (4). That polarity is sometimes
reversed.  Osiris is lame in that he is missing a "leg", his penis. And King
Oedipus is lame since childhood.

This stage of light is ruled by the Sun, whose color and radiance are resembled
by the male lion. So this is the stage of LEO (4).

And that forms our initial unit, Unity (1) Division, opposition (2)
Multiplicity, Female, Time (3) Male, Space. (4).The next step begins to produce
numbers as combinations of the basic unit.

                                         (to be continued)

Paul Albertsen




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>From: "zreunion" <zreunion@...>
>Reply-To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com
>To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [torahcosmos] Zodiac Bible
>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:24:14 -0000
>
>Can the zodiac be derived from a sequence of numbers? And is the same
>structure and meaning a major structure of the Judeo-Christian Bible?
>
>                  http://geocities.com/zreunion
>
>Paul Albertsen
>

Can the zodiac be derived from a sequence of numbers? And is the same
structure and meaning a major structure of the Judeo-Christian Bible?

                  http://geocities.com/zreunion

Paul Albertsen

the_battle_wages_on wrote:
> Andreas , Yes I was at both of those links provided earlier today.
> Simply fascinating work to say the least. In my line of work it is
> explosive
highly explosive.
> I was unable to see the " Tree of Life " Diagram that you
> mentioned because the link at the site was not working. Along with
> the other important photo or diagram that I was really wanted to
> view, that being the one concerning Draco.
>
>
dont you mean Orion rather than draco?  what link(s) exactly is/are out
of order? once i know them i am going to fix them!

> And in your analogy of the bible and the torah being one in the same
> as the torah is in your view the first five books of the bible ,
the torah definitely is also known as the first five books of the bible.
this is a fact.

Andreas , Yes I was at both of those links provided earlier today.
Simply fascinating work to say the least. In my line of work it is
explosive.I was unable to see the " Tree of Life " Diagram that you
mentioned because the link at the site was not working. Along with
the other important photo or diagram that I was really wanted to
view, that being the one concerning Draco.

And in your analogy of the bible and the torah being one in the same
as the torah is in your view the first five books of the bible , I
find much interest in as well. I was literally unaware of this being
the case ? As well as the fact that " most people don't realise "
that the torah came before the kaballah , as I am one of those
people.








--- In torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Szabo <torahcosmos@...>
wrote:
>
> the_battle_wages_on wrote:
> > 1.)Is the Torah part of the Kaballa-Cabbala ( among other various
> > spellings ) and if there is proof it is then can I find that or
can
> > someone explain more in detail on that subject ?
> >
> >
> Personally i think that torah and kaballah are parts of the same
thing,
> transporting different parts of the whole. unfortunately today
kabbalist
> often forget about what was first: the torah! and my research shows
that
> what we call the kabbalistic diagram "tree of life" for example, is
> already part of the torah...
>
> > 2.)What else can group members help to open my eyes to that I may
not
> > know about when it comes to this type of subject matter that
> > obviously has a connection to finding out "what the real deal is"
> > when it comes to the bible vs torah vs the signs in the stars vs
> > where we stand on Creator vs Big Bang ?
> >
> in my opinion bible cant be vs torah as torah is actually a part
(the
> first 5 books) of the bible.
>
> well, i guess, with the dot-pictures from
> http://www.majorchaos.de/siegel.html (german / english version is:
> http://www.majorchaos.de/gematria.html ) i discovered something
strange...
>

the_battle_wages_on wrote:
> 1.)Is the Torah part of the Kaballa-Cabbala ( among other various
> spellings ) and if there is proof it is then can I find that or can
> someone explain more in detail on that subject ?
>
>
Personally i think that torah and kaballah are parts of the same thing,
transporting different parts of the whole. unfortunately today kabbalist
often forget about what was first: the torah! and my research shows that
what we call the kabbalistic diagram "tree of life" for example, is
already part of the torah...

> 2.)What else can group members help to open my eyes to that I may not
> know about when it comes to this type of subject matter that
> obviously has a connection to finding out "what the real deal is"
> when it comes to the bible vs torah vs the signs in the stars vs
> where we stand on Creator vs Big Bang ?
>
in my opinion bible cant be vs torah as torah is actually a part (the
first 5 books) of the bible.

well, i guess, with the dot-pictures from
http://www.majorchaos.de/siegel.html (german / english version is:
http://www.majorchaos.de/gematria.html ) i discovered something strange...

This subject matter fascinates me to no avail. I am heavily into
studying the Uranometria among other topics. And this central subject
happens to be a piece to the bigger puzzle. The writer at the site
and in this posting below is on to the " real culprits " on all
fronts. My questions to members and the group as a whole are these :

1.)Is the Torah part of the Kaballa-Cabbala ( among other various
spellings ) and if there is proof it is then can I find that or can
someone explain more in detail on that subject ?

2.)What else can group members help to open my eyes to that I may not
know about when it comes to this type of subject matter that
obviously has a connection to finding out "what the real deal is"
when it comes to the bible vs torah vs the signs in the stars vs
where we stand on Creator vs Big Bang ?

( Sorry if it is a lot to ask but as I said I am truly involved with
this research and the path it has led me to thus far is amazing to
say the least and I can't seem to let it go.Thanks for any assistance
with this matter in advance.)


--- In torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com, "malkuth27000" <nospam13254@...>
wrote:
>
> "torahcosmos" group memebers: you may use (copy) this text (at best
> without this intial note) whereeverto you want to spread the word of
> the truth about religions, especially book-religions and the
torahic ones.
>
>
> I can prove that there are really (man made) codes in the Torah.
Codes
> that measure the cycles of planetary orbits to describe a hermetic
> truth like that circumcision is nothing but the limits of vision.
>
> The Lesser Proof for Astrology in the Torah
>
> THE FOLLOWING TEXT and the above title are COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL,
> copyright belongs to Andreas G. Szabo. posted here with permission
and
> my be copied as long the whole text incl title and this copyright
note
> are left intact.
>
> concerning site:
> http://otaku.onlinehome.de/torah.html
> http://otaku.onlinehome.de/gematria.html
>
> For a starting proof, that planetary cycles could have had a meaning
> to the writers of the Torah (who may have been all contemporaries),
> read Genesis 15.17: And it came to pass, that, when the sun went
down,
> and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that
> passed between those pieces. While "those pieces" (vulgata:
divisiones
> illas) is sometimes translated as divided animals (because of
15.10),
> the absolute number of this verse, 378, is the visibility cycle of
the
> planet Saturn and the "lamp or light that passes between the divided
> animals" may be Saturn, known as the protecting star of Israel, on
> it's path along the ecliptic, the solar system plane, that virtually
> divides the zodiakal signs into two halves, upper and lower.
>
> In 15.9 three zodiac-compatible animals are named that are divided
in
> 15.10: the heifer matches to Taurus, the she-goat to Capricorn and
the
> ram to Aries. Consider these are the animals. A furnace though is a
> symbol for man (alchemy), that is Aquarius. A feature is, that
> Capricorn, Aquarius, Aries and Taurus together with Pisces as a gap
> between Aquarius and Aries, are all adjacent one after annother and
> forming a 150-degree (5 o'clock) sector of the whole zodiac.
>
> 150 degrees here is not just as significant as any angel. For 150
> degrees viz. 5 signs Saturn takes 4483 days. That are 150 days more
> than a revolution of Jupiter and especially in that time Saturn was
> 11.8 times visible, while a revolution of Jupiter takes 11.8 years.
> This means, after Jupiter has passed all 12 signs, it takes 150 days
> or 5 months more for Earth to have passed Saturn allmost 12 times
and
> in a harmony with Jupiter, while Saturn itself moves 5 degrees in
> those 150 days.
>
> Astronomers know, that Saturn, when it is passing earth, for about
> five weeks appears like moving backwards because of our perspective
> from Earth. Astronomers call that retrograde motion and Saturn has a
> retrograde motion for around 136 days (see external reference John
> Pratt's planetary observation for a detailed description of the
> retrograde motion of planets). In our verse-as-day sheme, the
> retrograde motion of Saturn would take from Genesis 15.17,
where "the
> lamp" is seen (a lamp is a spot from which light emerges, a star in
> terms of non-astrophysicans), until Genesis 21.
>
> Also if one adds the 150 days as verses to the 365th Verse that is
> called Genesis 15.4 (a year), you end up in the beginning of Genesis
> 21, where Isaak, the 21th patriarch is born. The text of the 365th
> verse (Genesis 15.4) writes, that Bram will get a son. 150 verses
> later, that son is born. This must have a clear reason that will be
> revealed, but now let's whatch the structure, where still some
details
> have to be told.
>
> Genesis 15.17 is the verse of a Saturn appearance with a sligth clue
> to Jupiter. The verse of a Jupiter appearance though is the 399th
> verse, called Genesis 17.1.
>
> The Kabbalah explains: in the Sepher Yetzirah (the important ancient
> hebrew scripture about the hebrew letters) the two zodiacal signs
> which are ruled by Saturn, i.e. on one hand Capricorn, the beast or
> animal and on the other hand Aquarius, the man, are attributed to
the
> hebrew letters 15 and 17 (Aleph: 0, not gematria is meant here but
> numeral index) and that are the numeral identifiers of the verse
that
> is observed here.
>
> Numeral identifiers are said to be no part of the Torah, but only
the
> arbitrary clerical retrieve system. From these numbers one can tell
> something. Consider, that the chapter is 15 and the 15th patriarch
is
> Peleg, whose name means division, the divison of man (Gen 10.25),
that
> meets the division of beast (Gen 15.10). Whew, you can get a lot out
> of this by meditating on it. To this also consider Revelation 13.18,
> where the number of the beast is the number of a man.
>
> You have to look up the traditional astrological meanings of Saturn
> and will find, that they match the content of Genesis 15, especially
> the thing about slavery. Further note, that that slavery is told to
> take 400 years, while 400 is the number of the hebrew letter Taw,
that
> has Index 21 in the hebrew Alephbeth (Alep: 0) an that the Sepher
> Yetzirah identifies with Saturn (see Bill Heidrick's). Taw is also
> identified with Saturn today by the Tarot.
>
>  Yeah, the torah uses planetary cycles to symbolise cosmic (inner)
> principles rather than a concrete time of calendar. For example the
> Octaeteris, which is a Venus (imagination) cycle is used in double,
> just as the Shamayim (Heavens) in Genesis 1.1 is a pair, in the
middle
> of which the circumcision and crowning of Aaron (meaning: the
> enlightened) are placed. hence the circumcision is annother word for
> "limits of vision". Circumcision is not something, that must be done
> to someone on his 8 day (an Ocateteris measuers 8 years viz 99
> lunation, the age of Abram/Abraham at circumcision) but teh
> circumcision is teh principle of the limits of vision that allready
is
> naturally there, especially since the developement of the ego. It
must
> be accepted, therefore/hence understood so that one can deal with
it.
>
> On annother level Torah measures the years since the destruction of
> Atlantis. Rather read any of my material. Newest topics are found in
> my newsletter through the bottom of my pages.
>
> In Verse Genesis 16.16 (twice 16 are 32) Abram measures 86 years and
> 86 is the value of ELOHYM, meaning Gods, traditionally 7 of them.
> While one God or rather The God is the enternal archetypical cycle
of
> creation, destruction and existance, a definite number of Gods
however
> are more concrete cyles, e.g. those of planets. This is so in any
> relgion, f.e. also the hindu with its kala (time) and yuga (cycles),
> whose large numbers are indeed packed information and can be
computed
> to useable astronomical values.
>
> The Torah with it's 16 years viz 5844 verses is the House of God
> (Mansion Dieu or Tarot Card 16, The Tower). This house is divided in
> several nested and sequential rooms like is the house of the
Barbapapa
> (a japanese anime series). Within my scribes I do reveal that artist
> all over the world know the truth, while church and politicans
> obfuscate it.
>
> 7 ELOHYM 86 is because 86.5 lunations measure 2555 days viz 7 years
> (Verse 17.1 then measures to be the 399th Verse viz 13.5 lunations).
> In the beginning of Genesis 1.1 is a new-moon. Isaak, Abraham and
> Ismael are measured by full-moons. Hence the point 5.
>
> 2555 is five times 511 whereas thrice 511 is the Genesis and these
511
> each are one of the rings in the Hitomi-Function of the Eye or pupil
> (jap. Hitomi) through which the atlantean Pictures can be seen. Note
> that Platon wrote his Atlantis in 360 (!) BC. This has been all a
plan
> which I (eye) see through more and more.
>
> Note that thrice the value 360 appears in verse 1022 (twice 511) as
> the word Shem-Cha, your name [shall be Is.ra.el - Man.sees.God -
> through the Eyes viz concrete cycles].
>
> In chapter 17 the limits of vision are revealed. This is called
> circumcision. Venus is exalted in Pisces, where the two Towers on
the
> Card are the two Octaeteris cycles of Abram 99 and Abraham 99. On my
> card the towers have windows, because each tower is one Hey letter
of
> the name IHVH.
>
> In the inside of the event-horizont of any black hole viz pupil or
eye
> is the one invisible Jay. All insides of event-horizonts are
actually
> one inside.
>
> The 13 years of Ismael besides the middle are half of the value of
> IHVH. In total the Torah has 26 sideral venuscycles viz 16 years.
> Twice 16 are the rays around the moon on card 18, representing the
> paths of the tree.
>
> From tarot cards 5 and 6 we can see that the Way is besides the Hey.
> While the Hey represents sight, the Way represents Hearing, just
like
> Is.ma.el means Man.hears.God.
>
> The limits of Ismael are made clear together with Abraham in the
> middle like the Way is in the middle. In Taurus viz key 6 the moon
is
> exalted, while venus rules, that itself is exalted in pisces, the
feet
> on the yellow brick road. Jupiter rules in Pisces, just the Jupiter
> that becomes visible again in Verse 399, Genesis 17.1, but
> mathematically only 0.22 days after the full moon (cites: "...walk
> before me", while also "me" is annother japanese word for Eye, here
> the red spot Eye of Jupiter). Somehow this explains that the path on
> that one really walks is made only from the 22 major arcana. The 10
of
> Jay's singularity are allways and everywhere inherent, just as the
> full Torah measures 10 geocentric venusrounds. This is all one can
> imagine and the door that leads beyond.
>
> You can join my newsletter to get direct updates on this:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/torahcosmos/
>
> [no portions of the text have been removed]
>

Trish:

No I was not in Florida.  I did not have a near death experience
though the Kundalini experience can be mistaken as one.  I was not
ill and I was in the midst of mediation on the New Testament in June
1978.

It is quite a common experience but it is what people do with the
experience that counts.  The Church lamented for centuries the
mystics were no longer honing their abilities to explain the Bible.
That is where I differ from most.  I believe there is a mathematical
and grammatical system of thought coded to the sacred scripture that
explains the archetypal forces that permeate human consciousness.

The fact that my work is founded on demonstrable evidence, which
Mary Baker Eddy, the Discover and Founder of Christian Science
greatly influenced me though she died in December 1910 and I was not
born until June 1948.

The foundation of a mathematical science is where I obtain my
authority to write the things I write about.

Keep the faith.

Bill Meegan


--- In torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com, "PATRICA PESCATORE"
<pesca444@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Bill
>
> Thank you for your response.  By any chance were you in Pt St.
Lucie, Fl last year?  I met a fellow who was in my audience at a
mind, body, spirit expo lecture who came up to the podium and spoke
about his near death experience and how he came back with many
gifts.  You look very much like him.
>
> Trish

Dear Steinar:

Best of luck with the book:
I see from the last purchaser that you are from Norway.  People from
different parts of the world and all over the United States have
purchased the volume.

I hope you had a chance to read THE SISTINE CHAPEL because it is
verification of the thesis outline in the book.

Cordially,

William John Meegan



--- In torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com, "Steinar" <steinar@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Many thanks for that link, I just ordered your book :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Steinar
>
>
>

Hello Bill

Thank you for your response.  By any chance were you in Pt St. Lucie, Fl last
year?  I met a fellow who was in my audience at a mind, body, spirit expo
lecture who came up to the podium and spoke about his near death experience and
how he came back with many gifts.  You look very much like him.

Trish


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: William John Meegan<mailto:wmeegan@...>
   To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:26 PM
   Subject: Re: [torahcosmos] Chapter 5


   Dear Patrica Pescatore:

   You can not order a copy directly from me!!  HOWEVER:
   The best way to obtain a copy is to order it directly from the publisher
   at the book's web-site:  It may take five weeks because each order
   is printed directly from the master disc.

   THE SECRETS & MYSTERIES OF GENESIS: Antiquity's Hall of Records
  
http://www.trafford.com/robots/03-1381.html<http://www.trafford.com/robots/03-13\
81.html>

   If you have any questions concerning any of the theories and ideas presented
   I would welcome your queries.

   Bill Meegan

     ----- Original Message -----
     From: PATRICA PESCATORE
     To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com>
     Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:31 AM
     Subject: Re: [torahcosmos] Chapter 5


     Bill

     I would like to order your book. What is the best way to order the book?
From you directly?
     Trish
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: William John
Meegan<mailto:wmeegan@...<mailto:wmeegan@...>>
     To:
torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmo\
s@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com>>
     Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:12 PM
     Subject: Re: [torahcosmos] Chapter 5

     Dear Ken:

     I have put off revising chapter 5 of the book because other more important
projects have come up.
     The only real problem with the fifth chapter was an error is a pattern I was
trying to outline concerning the
     family of Abram/Abraham. I did not take into account a verse in the
storyline, which proves the pattern that
     I outlined was wrong. It was an emailer that pointed it out to me. The real
pattern if you take the time to think it out:
     (The pattern on page 173 is wrong).

     1) Abram was ten years older than Sarai
     2) Two full moon calendar years after Sarai birth Ishmael is born to Hagar
(Sarai is 76-years of age)
     3) Ishmael is 13-years of age when he and his mother are banished from
Sarai's home
     (Sarah is 89-years old - note the spelling difference in her name)
     4) That same year Isaac is born.
     5) One full moon calendar year later Sarah dies at the age of 127-years of
age.
     6) One full moon calendar year after that Abraham dies.

     Therefore, the pattern is:

     13 = 7 + 6 = 38 + 38 + ( 13 ) + 38 + 38 = 7 + 6 = 13
     This very well may be eluding to the 39-books of the Old Testament

     This pattern makes Ishmael the central figure in the Abram/Abraham story.
You see the logic in the text states that
     Sarah dies one moon calendar year later and then Abraham one moon calendar
year after that, which locks
     the pattern into moon calendar year. This pattern is not to say that
Abram/Abraham is not depicted as the
     central figure or deminishes Sarai/Sarah role.

     If you want to read another one of my esoteric work on the first chapter of
Geneis I recommend:
     THE SISTINE CHAPEL: A Study in Celestial Cartography.
     ROSE+CROIX JOURNAL
    
http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/issues/index.html<http://www.rosecroixjournal.or\
g/issues/index.html<http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/issues/index.html<http://www\
.rosecroixjournal.org/issues/index.html>>

     I do not know whether you are Jewish or Christian - that should not matter
when it comes to works of esoterism.
     This most recent paper is an analysis of all the images in the Sistine
Chapel demonstrating the unanimity of all
     symbols and frescos under one unified system of thought. This analysis
further demonstrates Celestial Cartograpy
     This analysis demonstrates that the Sistine Chapel as the main impetus for
frescoing the chapel to teach God
     in his creative mode. The Sistine Chapel is a commentary on the first
chapter of Genesis.

     Presently, I am working on another paper, which if you read the book you
know most of it. But new insight into
     the grander scheme have come to me, which I am incorporating into this next
paper:
     THE ROAD TO ELEUSIS: The Rite of Initiation
     This paper, if published, will not come out until next June. I say if
because it will be longer than the one published in June.
     It may be too long and I can not find anyway of pearing it down to get the
full impact of the schema across.

     If you decide to read the paper on the Sistine Chapel - get back to me and
let me know what you think.
     I think you will like it.

     Cordially,

     Bill Meegan

     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Magus
     To:
torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmo\
s@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com>>
     Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
     Subject: [torahcosmos] Chapter 5

     Dear William Meegan,

     I am a lurker here--seems all of us are lurkers and this is my first
     post. I was a bit overwhelmed with getting a handle on the subject
     matter and that is still a problem. I have read much of your book with
     great pleasure and learning and I am wondering when the Chapter 5
     revision will be done. If it is finished in a print version, I should
     like to buy it. If not, could I get the old copy pro temp while we all
     await the revised version.

     You have a done a great job. Never have a seen a better work on the Book
     of Genesis.

     With kindest regards,

     Ken

     B R T

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     Yahoo! Groups Links

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Dear Patrica Pescatore:

You can not order a copy directly from me!!  HOWEVER:
The best way to obtain a copy is to order it directly from the publisher
at the book's web-site:  It may take five weeks because each order
is printed directly from the master disc.

THE SECRETS & MYSTERIES OF GENESIS: Antiquity's Hall of Records
http://www.trafford.com/robots/03-1381.html

If you have any questions concerning any of the theories and ideas presented
I would welcome your queries.

Bill Meegan

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: PATRICA PESCATORE
   To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:31 AM
   Subject: Re: [torahcosmos] Chapter 5


   Bill

   I would like to order your book. What is the best way to order the book? From
you directly?
   Trish
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: William John Meegan<mailto:wmeegan@...>
   To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:12 PM
   Subject: Re: [torahcosmos] Chapter 5

   Dear Ken:

   I have put off revising chapter 5 of the book because other more important
projects have come up.
   The only real problem with the fifth chapter was an error is a pattern I was
trying to outline concerning the
   family of Abram/Abraham. I did not take into account a verse in the storyline,
which proves the pattern that
   I outlined was wrong. It was an emailer that pointed it out to me. The real
pattern if you take the time to think it out:
   (The pattern on page 173 is wrong).

   1) Abram was ten years older than Sarai
   2) Two full moon calendar years after Sarai birth Ishmael is born to Hagar
(Sarai is 76-years of age)
   3) Ishmael is 13-years of age when he and his mother are banished from Sarai's
home
   (Sarah is 89-years old - note the spelling difference in her name)
   4) That same year Isaac is born.
   5) One full moon calendar year later Sarah dies at the age of 127-years of
age.
   6) One full moon calendar year after that Abraham dies.

   Therefore, the pattern is:

   13 = 7 + 6 = 38 + 38 + ( 13 ) + 38 + 38 = 7 + 6 = 13
   This very well may be eluding to the 39-books of the Old Testament

   This pattern makes Ishmael the central figure in the Abram/Abraham story. You
see the logic in the text states that
   Sarah dies one moon calendar year later and then Abraham one moon calendar
year after that, which locks
   the pattern into moon calendar year. This pattern is not to say that
Abram/Abraham is not depicted as the
   central figure or deminishes Sarai/Sarah role.

   If you want to read another one of my esoteric work on the first chapter of
Geneis I recommend:
   THE SISTINE CHAPEL: A Study in Celestial Cartography.
   ROSE+CROIX JOURNAL
  
http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/issues/index.html<http://www.rosecroixjournal.or\
g/issues/index.html>

   I do not know whether you are Jewish or Christian - that should not matter
when it comes to works of esoterism.
   This most recent paper is an analysis of all the images in the Sistine Chapel
demonstrating the unanimity of all
   symbols and frescos under one unified system of thought. This analysis further
demonstrates Celestial Cartograpy
   This analysis demonstrates that the Sistine Chapel as the main impetus for
frescoing the chapel to teach God
   in his creative mode. The Sistine Chapel is a commentary on the first chapter
of Genesis.

   Presently, I am working on another paper, which if you read the book you know
most of it. But new insight into
   the grander scheme have come to me, which I am incorporating into this next
paper:
   THE ROAD TO ELEUSIS: The Rite of Initiation
   This paper, if published, will not come out until next June. I say if because
it will be longer than the one published in June.
   It may be too long and I can not find anyway of pearing it down to get the
full impact of the schema across.

   If you decide to read the paper on the Sistine Chapel - get back to me and let
me know what you think.
   I think you will like it.

   Cordially,

   Bill Meegan

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Magus
   To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
   Subject: [torahcosmos] Chapter 5

   Dear William Meegan,

   I am a lurker here--seems all of us are lurkers and this is my first
   post. I was a bit overwhelmed with getting a handle on the subject
   matter and that is still a problem. I have read much of your book with
   great pleasure and learning and I am wondering when the Chapter 5
   revision will be done. If it is finished in a print version, I should
   like to buy it. If not, could I get the old copy pro temp while we all
   await the revised version.

   You have a done a great job. Never have a seen a better work on the Book
   of Genesis.

   With kindest regards,

   Ken

   B R T

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   Yahoo! Groups Links

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Bill

I would like to order your book. What is the best way to order the book?  From
you directly?
Trish
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: William John Meegan<mailto:wmeegan@...>
   To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:12 PM
   Subject: Re: [torahcosmos] Chapter 5


   Dear Ken:

   I have put off revising chapter 5 of the book because other more important
projects have come up.
   The only real problem with the fifth chapter was an error is a pattern I was
trying to outline concerning the
   family of Abram/Abraham.  I did not take into account a verse in the
storyline, which proves the pattern that
   I outlined was wrong. It was an emailer that pointed it out to me.   The real
pattern if you take the time to think it out:
   (The pattern on page 173 is wrong).

   1) Abram was ten years older than Sarai
   2) Two full moon calendar years after Sarai birth Ishmael is born to Hagar
(Sarai is 76-years of age)
   3) Ishmael is 13-years of age when he and his mother are banished from Sarai's
home
      (Sarah is 89-years old - note the spelling difference in her name)
   4) That same year Isaac is born.
   5) One full moon calendar year later Sarah dies at the age of 127-years of
age.
   6) One full moon calendar year after that Abraham dies.

   Therefore, the pattern is:

   13 = 7 + 6 = 38 + 38 + ( 13 ) + 38 + 38 = 7 + 6 = 13
   This very well may be eluding to the 39-books of the Old Testament

   This pattern makes Ishmael the central figure in the Abram/Abraham story.  You
see the logic in the text states that
   Sarah dies one moon calendar year later and then Abraham one moon calendar
year after that, which locks
   the pattern into moon calendar year.  This pattern is not to say that
Abram/Abraham is not depicted as the
   central figure or deminishes Sarai/Sarah role.


   If you want to read another one of my esoteric work on the first chapter of
Geneis I recommend:
   THE SISTINE CHAPEL: A Study in Celestial Cartography.
   ROSE+CROIX JOURNAL
  
http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/issues/index.html<http://www.rosecroixjournal.or\
g/issues/index.html>

   I do not know whether you are Jewish or Christian - that should not matter
when it comes to works of esoterism.
   This most recent paper is an analysis of all the images in the Sistine Chapel
demonstrating the unanimity of all
   symbols and frescos under one unified system of thought.  This analysis
further demonstrates Celestial Cartograpy
   This analysis demonstrates that the Sistine Chapel as the main impetus for
frescoing the chapel to teach God
   in his creative mode.  The Sistine Chapel is a commentary on the first chapter
of Genesis.

   Presently, I am working on another paper, which if you read the book you know
most of it.  But new insight into
   the grander scheme have come to me, which I am incorporating into this next
paper:
   THE ROAD TO ELEUSIS: The Rite of Initiation
   This paper, if published, will not come out until next June.  I say if because
it will be longer than the one published in June.
   It may be too long and I can not find anyway of pearing it down to get the
full impact of the schema across.

   If you decide to read the paper on the Sistine Chapel - get back to me and let
me know what you think.
   I think you will like it.

   Cordially,

   Bill Meegan



     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Magus
     To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com<mailto:torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com>
     Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
     Subject: [torahcosmos] Chapter 5


     Dear William Meegan,

     I am a lurker here--seems all of us are lurkers and this is my first
     post. I was a bit overwhelmed with getting a handle on the subject
     matter and that is still a problem. I have read much of your book with
     great pleasure and learning and I am wondering when the Chapter 5
     revision will be done. If it is finished in a print version, I should
     like to buy it. If not, could I get the old copy pro temp while we all
     await the revised version.

     You have a done a great job. Never have a seen a better work on the Book
     of Genesis.

     With kindest regards,

     Ken

     B R T

     [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




   Yahoo! Groups Links











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Ken:

I have put off revising chapter 5 of the book because other more important
projects have come up.
The only real problem with the fifth chapter was an error is a pattern I was
trying to outline concerning the
family of Abram/Abraham.  I did not take into account a verse in the storyline,
which proves the pattern that
I outlined was wrong. It was an emailer that pointed it out to me.   The real
pattern if you take the time to think it out:
(The pattern on page 173 is wrong).

1) Abram was ten years older than Sarai
2) Two full moon calendar years after Sarai birth Ishmael is born to Hagar
(Sarai is 76-years of age)
3) Ishmael is 13-years of age when he and his mother are banished from Sarai's
home
    (Sarah is 89-years old - note the spelling difference in her name)
4) That same year Isaac is born.
5) One full moon calendar year later Sarah dies at the age of 127-years of age.
6) One full moon calendar year after that Abraham dies.

Therefore, the pattern is:

13 = 7 + 6 = 38 + 38 + ( 13 ) + 38 + 38 = 7 + 6 = 13
This very well may be eluding to the 39-books of the Old Testament

This pattern makes Ishmael the central figure in the Abram/Abraham story.  You
see the logic in the text states that
Sarah dies one moon calendar year later and then Abraham one moon calendar year
after that, which locks
the pattern into moon calendar year.  This pattern is not to say that
Abram/Abraham is not depicted as the
central figure or deminishes Sarai/Sarah role.


If you want to read another one of my esoteric work on the first chapter of
Geneis I recommend:
THE SISTINE CHAPEL: A Study in Celestial Cartography.
ROSE+CROIX JOURNAL
http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/issues/index.html

I do not know whether you are Jewish or Christian - that should not matter when
it comes to works of esoterism.
This most recent paper is an analysis of all the images in the Sistine Chapel
demonstrating the unanimity of all
symbols and frescos under one unified system of thought.  This analysis further
demonstrates Celestial Cartograpy
This analysis demonstrates that the Sistine Chapel as the main impetus for
frescoing the chapel to teach God
in his creative mode.  The Sistine Chapel is a commentary on the first chapter
of Genesis.

Presently, I am working on another paper, which if you read the book you know
most of it.  But new insight into
the grander scheme have come to me, which I am incorporating into this next
paper:
THE ROAD TO ELEUSIS: The Rite of Initiation
This paper, if published, will not come out until next June.  I say if because
it will be longer than the one published in June.
It may be too long and I can not find anyway of pearing it down to get the full
impact of the schema across.

If you decide to read the paper on the Sistine Chapel - get back to me and let
me know what you think.
I think you will like it.

Cordially,

Bill Meegan



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Magus
   To: torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:50 PM
   Subject: [torahcosmos] Chapter 5


   Dear William Meegan,

   I am a lurker here--seems all of us are lurkers and this is my first
   post. I was a bit overwhelmed with getting a handle on the subject
   matter and that is still a problem. I have read much of your book with
   great pleasure and learning and I am wondering when the Chapter 5
   revision will be done. If it is finished in a print version, I should
   like to buy it. If not, could I get the old copy pro temp while we all
   await the revised version.

   You have a done a great job. Never have a seen a better work on the Book
   of Genesis.

   With kindest regards,

   Ken

   B R T

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear William Meegan,

I am a lurker here--seems all of us are lurkers and this is my first
post. I was a bit overwhelmed with getting a handle on the subject
matter and that is still a problem. I have read much of your book with
great pleasure and learning and I am wondering when the Chapter 5
revision will be done. If it is finished in a print version, I should
like to buy it. If not, could I get the old copy pro temp while we all
await the revised version.

You have a done a great job. Never have a seen a better work on the Book
of Genesis.

With kindest regards,

Ken

B R T




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Had to remove file from this forum because it is about to be published
in the Rose+Croix Journal.  The reason for the removal is because it
has expanded to almost twice it size.

It is too large to place on this forum but I will let you know how to
link to it as soon as it is published.

Cordially,

William John Meegan

Here is the Attachment in message form.



Gunnar



Oct 22, 10:25 pm



Gangleri - Re: Astrophil and Stella: sonnet 76




This evening I checked out the University of Virginia First Folio text of Romeo
and Juliet.



The dialogue which leads up to "...the bawdy hand of the Dyall is now vpon the
pricke of

Noone" begins at - what do you think?



Yes, that's right.



At line # 1200 - as at 12 Noon.



Hmmm?



Merits further checking out.





Oct 23, 7:52 pm



Gangleri - Let this example mooue th'insolent man.



Merits further checking out?



Indeed!



***



First, here is the dialogue from Romeo and Juliet Act II, Sc. iv which leads up
to "....the bawdy hand of the Dyall is now vpon the pricke of Noone":



Enter Nurse and her man.
Rom.
Here's goodly geare.
A sayle, a sayle.
Mer.
Two, two:  a Shirt and a Smocke.
Nur.
Peter?
Peter
Anon.
Nur.
My Fan Peter?
Mer.
Good Peter to hide her face?
For her Fans the fairer face.
Nur.
God ye good morrow Gentleman.
Mer.
God ye gooden faire Gentlewoman.
Nur.
Is it gooden?
Mer.
Tis no lesse I tell you:
for the bawdy hand of the Dyall
is now vpon the pricke of Noone.
Nur.
Out vpon you: what a man are you?
Rom.
One Gentlewoman,
That God hath made, himselfe to mar.



The Cipher Value of Stage Directions and Dialogue is 170643.



The Nurse's remark - Out vpon you - and question - what a man are you? - and
Romeo's answer - "One Gentlewoman, That God hath made, himselfe to mar - come as
close as possible (without actually doing so) to spelling out the mechanics of
"a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd" whereby Monad alias One/God makes One
Flesh of its own Male/Female attributes.



As in 345 + 2487 + 216 + 1 = 3049, where



345 = Triangle 3:4:5 alias Foundation of Man-Beast's Psyche;



2487 = Anus alias Seat of Man-Beast's Lower Emotions; with Nurse's Out! command
signaling the Psyche's 'exit' from Man-Beast's Second Best Bed; through



216 = Resurrection [3:4:5 raised to the third power as in 27 + 64 + 125 = 216],
to "a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd" in Man-Beast's Best Bed alias Well on
Virgin's Mons Veneris, where Monad's Male and Female attributes are re-united as



1 = Monad.



***



And what's the moral of the story?



Ben Jonson spells it out as follows in Terentivi's final speech in the second of
the play's in which Will Shake-speare/Shakespeare is said to have acted,
'Seianus His Fall' - its Cipher Value is 116618:



Let this example mooue th'insolent man,
Not to grow proud, and carelesse of the gods:
It is an odious wisedome, to blaspheme,
Much more to slighten, or denie their powers.
For whom the morning saw so great, and high,
Thus low, and little, fore the 'euen doth lie.



***



The Cipher Value of "this example" - one designed to "mooue th'insolent man Not
to grow proud, and careless of the gods" - 170643 + 3049 + 116618 = 290310,
mirrors that of Prospero's Epilogue to William Shakespeare's last play, 'The
Tempest':



Now my charmes are all ore-throwne,
And what strength I have's mine owne.
Which is most faint: now 'tis true
I must be heere confinde by you,
Or sent to Naples, let me not
Since I have my Dukedome got,
And pardon'd the deceiver, dwell
In this bare Island, by your spell,
But release me from my bands
With the helpe of your good hands:
Gentle breath of yours, my Sailes
Must fill, or else my proiect failes,
Which was to please: now I want
Spirits to enforce: art to inchant,
And my ending is despaire,
Vnlesse I be relieu'd by praier
Which pierces  so, that it assaults
Mercy it selfe, and frees all faults.
As you from crimes would pardon'd be,
Let your Indulgence set me free.        Exit.



***



Forumites who wish to check out these Cipher Values for themselves will find a
Cipher Calculator posted at
http://www.light-of-truth.com/gunnartomasson/ciphers.htm



P.S.  For those interested in the Truth of the matter, I will be posting
additional material tomorrow showing how the Cipher Value of Prospero's Epilogue
serves as benchmark value for relating Shakespeare Myth to foundations laid by
Horace and Virgil in the 1st century B.C.



For those, who have grown insolent and proud to the point of becoming carelesse
of the gods, the Cipher Language of the gods will be as water off a duck's back
- the proud legions, whose ancestors came in with Richard the Conqueror - there
is a moral to be learned in the disappearance without a trace of Christophero
Sly in Shakespeares's 'The Taming of the Shrew'.





Oct 24, 3:18 pm



Gangleri - Re: Let this example mooue th'insolent man.



Follow-up # 1.



At first glance, the reference to "the gods" in Ben Jonson's lines -



Let this example mooue th'insolent man,
Not to grow proud, and carelesse of the gods:



- has a distinctly pagan air about it.



Yet, an entirely different meaning of "the gods" is conveyed in The Gods' Cipher
Language through the Brave New World scene in The Tempest Act V (First Folio,
Cipher Value 274545) -



Here Prospero discouers Ferdinand and Miranda, playing at Chesse.

  Miranda
Sweet Lord, you play me false.

Ferdinand
No my dearest love, I would not for the world.

Miranda
Yes, for a score of Kingdomes, you should wrangle, And I would call it faire
play.

Alonso
If this proue A vision of the Island, one deere Sonne Shall I twice loose.

Sebastian
A most high miracle.

Ferdinand
Though the Seas threaten they are mercifull, I have curs'd them without cause.

  Alonso
Now all the blessings Of a glad father, compasse thee about: Arise, and say how
thou cam'st heere.

  Miranda
O wonder!  How many goodly creatures are there heere?  How beauteous mankinde
is?  O brave new world That has such people in't.

  Prospero
'Tis new to thee.



- with the Cipher Value of the Stage Directions and Dialogue being anchored to
that of Prospero's Epilogue through the sum 274545 + 1 + 5452 + 3635 + 6677 =
290310.



For in Shakespeare's Brave New World, "the gods" denote Tri-Unite Cosmic
Creative Power or Monad, 1, become Prospero, 5452, of The Tempest and Emmanuel,
3635, and God With Us, 6677 of Matt. 1:23.



***

Behold, a Virgin shall be with childe, and shall bring foorth a sonne, and they
shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted, is, God with us.

***



In Shakespeare Myth, Jesus Christ, 7284,  is the Shipmaster of the 'miraculous
ship' of Grail legend (Faith) on a tempestuous voyage through the Darkness, -
1000, of Ignorance into safe harbour - Brave New World/The Holy City, New
Jerusalem of Rev. 21:22-27 (KJB, 1611; Cipher Value 284026) -



21:22
And I saw no Temple therein:  for the Lord God Almightie, and the Lambe, are the
Temple of it.

  21:23
And the citie had no need of the Sunne, neither of the Moone to shine in it: for
the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lambe is the light thereof.

21:24
And the nations of them which are saued, shall walke in the light of it: and the
kings of the earth doe bring their glory and honour into it.

21:25
And the gates of it shall not bee shut at all by day: for there shall bee no
night there.
21:26
And they shall bring the glorie and honour of the nations into it.

  21:27
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither
whatsoeuer worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in
the Lambes booke of life.



- as in 7284 - 1000 + 284026 = 290310.





Oct 24, 5:10 pm

Gangleri - Re: Let this example mooue th'insolent man.

Follow-up # 2.



As already noted, the Cipher Value, 290310, of Prospero's Epilogue to The
Tempest in the First Folio -



Now my charmes are all ore-throwne,
And what strength I have's mine owne.
Which is most faint: now 'tis true
I must be heere confinde by you,
Or sent to Naples, let me not
Since I have my Dukedome got,
And pardon'd the deceiver, dwell
In this bare Island, by your spell,
But release me from my bands
With the helpe of your good hands:
Gentle breath of yours, my Sailes
Must fill, or else my proiect failes,
Which was to please: now I want
Spirits to enforce: art to inchant,
And my ending is despaire,
Vnlesse I be relieu'd by praier
Which pierces  so, that it assaults
Mercy it selfe, and frees all faults.
As you from crimes would pardon'd be,
Let your Indulgence set me free.        Exit.



- serves as benchmark or reference value for the unveiling of the Shakespeare
Mystery, whose foundations were laid in the 1st century B.C. by Horace in
'Horace's Monument' (Cipher Value 262982) -



Exegi monumentum aere perennius
regalique situ pyramidum altius,
quod non imber edax, non Aquilo impotens
possit diruere aut innumerabilis
annorum series et fuga temporum.
Non omnis moriar multaque pars mei
vitabit Libitinam; usque ego postera
crescam laude recens.  Dum Capitolium
scandet cum tacita virgine pontifex,
dicar, qua violens obstrepit Aufidus
et qua pauper aquae Daunus agrestium
regnavit populorum, ex humili potens,
princeps Aeolium carmen ad Italos
deduxisse modos.  Sume superbiam
quaesitam meritis et mihi Delphica
lauro cinge volens, Melpomene, comam.*



***
*  I have created a monument more lasting than bronze and loftier than the royal
pyramids, a monument which neither the biting rain nor the raging North Wind can
destroy, nor can the countless years and the passing of the seasons.  I will not
entirely die and a great part of me will avoid Libitina, the goddess of Death; I
will grow greater and greater in times to come, kept fresh by praise.  So long
as the high priest climbs the stairs of the Capitolium, accompanied by the
silent Vestal Virgin, I, now powerful but from humble origins, will be said to
be the first to have brought Aeolian song to Latin meter where the raging
Aufidius roars and where parched Daunus ruled over the country folk. Embrace my
pride, deservedly earned, Muse, and willingly crown me with Apollo's laurel.

***



- and Virgil through a line in his Fourth Eclogue (Cipher Value 20087) -



Magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo*



***
* Alternative translations: Voici Qui Recommence Le Grand Ordre Des Siècles; 
The mighty March of Time resumes from nil;  The great roll-call of the centuries
is born anew.
***



- which medieval scholars construed as a prophecy of the Coming of Christ as
Light of the World, 1000, en route to World-Ending transformation into Flaming
Sword, 4000 as in 20087 + 1000 + 4000 = 25087.



In the Shakespeare Opus, this imagery is mirrored in the Cipher Sum 1 + 5452 +
3635 + 6677 + 9322 = 25087, where William Shakespeare, 9322, denotes the Flaming
Sword attribute of Tri-Unite Cosmic Creative Power or Monad, 1, become Prospero,
5452, of The Tempest and Emmanuel, 3635, and God With Us, 6677 of Matt. 1:23.



Also, Stratfordian Gulielmus, 5322, is Microcosmic MAN-Beast alias The
World/Globe as Creation in Time and Space.  As such, the Stratfordian is Cosmic
Creative Power's procreative tool or Brownswerd, - 4000, en route to its
World-Ending transformation into Flaming Sword or William Shakespeare, 9322 as
in 9322 - 4000 = 5322.



As transient mask for William Shakespeare, the Stratfordian is Shake-Speare,
4951, alias 'a poore player' whose 'houre vpon the stage' is associated in
ancient creation myth with the number symbol, 1728, of a "whole age, perfect in
duration." *



***
*1728 And Age Perfect In Duration:



The parallels between Noah's Flood and the Fire at Bergþórshvoll are thrown into
startling relief when we consider the Babylonian Ark of Utnapishtim.  According
to Peake's the size of that ship is given in B as 120x120x120; 7 stories; 9
divisions. [...]



Instantly it becomes clear that Utnapishtim's ship is a cube.  Its
three-dimensional size is 1728 M.  This is no small news.  Let us consider the
circumstances: the Flood comes after 10 kings have ruled for 432,000 years.  At
that time a ship is built 1728 M in size. The ground becomes dry for Noah on Mt.
Ararat on the 27th day of the second month; if the 8 in the Ark and the number
27 belong together as a symbol, they correspond to the Primeval Hill in Iceland
and the Icelandic measuring tree of the universe as 8x27=216 M. In Iceland that
symbolic number stands for the spherical universe; it is firmly bound up with
the line 432,000 (feet) of which Þingvellir, our seat of "kingship" is centre. 
The number of the years of the first 10 kings of Babylon is the same as the
number of years in the Indo-European Kalpha; the same number of Einherjar
("Singulares") fight with Óðinn in Valhöll at the end of time.  Clearly all
these symbolic values are part of one great web that stretches across the
civilized world of ancient times. [...]  We are dealing with a whole age,
perfect in duration. [...]



The size of Utnapishtim's ship, 1728 M, makes it equivalent in size to the
Heavenly Jerusalem in the Book of Revelation.  That great city was a Cube,
12x12x12=1728 M in size (Rev. 21:16).  (Einar Pálsson, Allegory in Njáls Saga
and its Basis in Pythagorean Thought, Mímir, Reykjavík, 1998, pp. 154-156)

  ***



Augustan-Saga-Shakespeare Myth is a psychological drama relating to Microcosmic
MAN-Beast's 'race through life', with Triangle 3:4:5 denoting the 'foundation'
at Alpha of MAN-Beast's Psyche, whose Resurrection, 216*, at Omega concludes the
Seventh Day of Creation.



***
* The sides of Triangle 3:4:5 raised to the third power, 27 + 64 + 125 = 216.
***



As in 1 + 262982 + 20087 + 345 + 4951 + 1728 + 216 = 290310.





Oct 25, 5:18 pm



Art Neuendorffer - Re: "But where is Francis Bacon?"



> >  some years ago when Prince Philip was being
> > shown the list of contemporaries' names carved in the
> > Shakespeare Centre at Stratford he turned round
> > in surprise and asked, "But where is Francis Bacon?"


Elizabeth wrote:
> That's a question the Oxfordians need to answer.
> If Looney and the Ogburns had divulged that Bacon
> was also a ward of Polonius and lived in the same
> household with Oxford, there would be no Oxfordian
> theory.

--------------------------------------------------------
  I don't recall Polonius actually having any wards
(In any event, I doubt that Bacon was his BEST WARD.)
--------------------------------------------------------
             Love's Labour's Lost   Act 3, Scene 1

ADRIANO DE ARMADO:   [Giving a letter]

   to the country maid Jaquenetta:
  there is remuneration; for the BEST WARD of mine
  honour is reWARDing my dependents. Moth, follow.
------------------------------------------------------


            The Winter's Tale  Act 1, Scene 2



HERMIONE:  I had thought, sir, to have held my peace until
  You have drawn oaths from him not to stay. You, sir,
  Charge him too coldly. Tell him, you are sure
  All in Bohemia's well; this satisfaction
  The by-gone day proclaim'd: say this to him,
  He's beat from his BEST WARD.



[.]







Oct 25, 6:04 pm



Gangleri - Re: "But where is Francis Bacon?"



Best Ward?



For what it's worth - and I just did the math - the Cipher Value of Best Ward,
5180, plus that of Francis Bacon, 5385, or 5180 + 5385 = 10565.



And THAT mirrors the Hebrew Gematria value of JHWH (10-5-6-5).



In Hebrew Myth, the Holy Name of JHWH is held to split into two parts at Seventh
Day's dawn, and "the purpose of our world" for the Holy Name to arise in
creation anew.

Man of Seventh Day' s assigned mission is to bring that about.



In 'Ode to the Royal Society', Abraham Cowley likened Francis Bacon's mission in
life to that of Moses.



Perhaps that is part of the Answer to the Question, "But where is Francis
Bacon?"







Oct 25, 7:34 pm



Gangleri - Re: "But where is Francis Bacon?"



Perhaps?



Clearly, it's a MASSIVE stretch for anyone's imagination to liken Sir Francis
Bacon, Knight, to Moses - yet Abraham Cowley did so in his 'Ode to the Royal
Society'.



Just as clearly, Cowley MUST have known that the imagery would NOT strike the
Royal Society's fellows as the rantings of a deluded crank.



So what's up?



Here are three clues which suggest that something important was up in Cowley's
lines.



1.  In Shakespeare's play, The Winters Tale, Hermione, 3849, appears to be
playcast as Wisdom, 4646, whose voice goes unheeded by her rival, Ignorance,
worth zilch.



2.  In the vocabulary of myth, Monad, 1, become Light of the World, 1000, is
manifested as Beast, 666, and Right Measure of Man, 432, with Sir Francis Bacon,
Knight, 10594, playing both sides of the street, as in 1 + 1000 + 3849 + 4646 +
666 + 432 = 10594.



3.  The Cipher Value of 'The Winters Tale', 9015, mirrors that of Prince
Hamlet's mission-concluded statement, 'The rest is silence', 9015.



OK - so how might all this relate to Francis Bacon as Best Ward, 10565?



Here's how - not that it will impress Hermione's Stratfordian oppressors -
beginning with the exchange between Leontes and Hermione in Act I, Sc. ii of
'The Winters Tale':



Leontes:
Tongue-ty'd our Queene?  speake you.
Hermione:
I had thought (Sir) to haue held my peace, vntill
You had drawne Oathes from him, not to stay: you (Sir)
Charge him too coldly.  Tell him, you are sure
All in Bohemia's well: this satisfaction,
The by-gone-day proclaym'd, say this to him,
He's beat from his best ward.
Leontes:
Well said. Hermione.



Well said?



The Cipher Value of the exchange, 130035, is mirrored in the Cipher Sum 4646 +
345 + 35662 + 216 + 89166 = 130035.



Well said, indeed!



For Wisdom, 4646, does not beat around the Bush!



Alias Triangle 345 as 'foundation' of MAN-Beast's Psyche, for whose
Resurrection, 216, from the pits of Ignorance Abraham Cowley thanked Francis
Bacon playcast as Moses of Shakespeare Myth (Cipher Value 89166) -



Bacon, like Moses, led us forth at last,
The barren wilderness he past,
Did on the very border stand
Of the blest promis'd land,
And from the mountain's top of his exalted wit,
Saw it himself, and shew'd us it.



Us?



In Shakespeare Myth, the Stratfordian is Everyman - you, me, and all the other
ignorant but arrogant worldly Yahoos - whose appearance on the Stage of the
World is recorded as the 'baptism' of Gulielmus, filius Johannes Shakspere,
17252, on April 26, 1564, and whose exit is recorded at The End, 100, as the
'burial' of Will Shakspere gent, 10026, on April 25, 1616.



As in 17252 + 2602 +1564 + 100 + 10026 + 2502 + 1616 = 35662.



P.S.  There are two kinds of folks in the world - the know-it-alls and the
know-it-alls, with the difference between the two residing in the "all" both
profess to know.



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: judson chambers
   To: gunnar.tomasson@...
   Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:55 PM
   Subject: Well wishing...


   Hello Gunnar,



   I haven't seen any recent writings from your good self recently. I'm trusting
you are sufficiently well, but that you are writing in other forums.



   I've been quite busy myself. I'm undergoing an overhaul in home furnishing and
in a new computer network system, so that I haven't interacted very much in the
last several months.



   I should be able to present some useful offerings in the near future however.



   In the meantime be well and advise me.



   Regards, Jud


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello Gunnar,
Unfortunately the attachments you mentioned weren't there.
Please try again.
Regards, Jud

--- In torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com, Gunnar Tómasson
<gunnar.tomasson@v...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jud.
>
> Good to hear from you!
>
> Yes, I have been hard at work on putting the Shakespeare Mystery
in perspective, including posting some messages on hlas as Gangleri.
>
> See Attachment for the most recent ones.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Gunnar
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: judson chambers
>   To: gunnar.tomasson@v...
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:55 PM
>   Subject: Well wishing...
>
>
>   Hello Gunnar,
>
>
>
>   I haven't seen any recent writings from your good self recently.
I'm trusting you are sufficiently well, but that you are writing in
other forums.
>
>
>
>   I've been quite busy myself. I'm undergoing an overhaul in home
furnishing and in a new computer network system, so that I haven't
interacted very much in the last several months.
>
>
>
>   I should be able to present some useful offerings in the near
future however.
>
>
>
>   In the meantime be well and advise me.
>
>
>
>   Regards, Jud
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Jud.

Good to hear from you!

Yes, I have been hard at work on putting the Shakespeare Mystery in perspective,
including posting some messages on hlas as Gangleri.

See Attachment for the most recent ones.

Kind regards,

Gunnar

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: judson chambers
   To: gunnar.tomasson@...
   Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:55 PM
   Subject: Well wishing...


   Hello Gunnar,



   I haven't seen any recent writings from your good self recently. I'm trusting
you are sufficiently well, but that you are writing in other forums.



   I've been quite busy myself. I'm undergoing an overhaul in home furnishing and
in a new computer network system, so that I haven't interacted very much in the
last several months.



   I should be able to present some useful offerings in the near future however.



   In the meantime be well and advise me.



   Regards, Jud


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

You can find the news and new pictures right through the project
website: http://www.discoveryofatlantis.com/

the relation between atlantis and the torah cosmos is, that the time
master system starts at 9600 bc, the last year of atlantis by plato:
http://www.majorchaos.de/adsystem.gif

Thanks Jud.

Here is a summing up which I posted today on HLAS.

Gunnar

****

Sun,Jul 17 2005 7:47 pm
Subject: Augustan-Saga-Shakespeare Myth

Prologue

Now that the defenders of Stratfordian Orthodoxy have been exposed for
what they are and what they are not, it occurred to me this morning
that the time had come to move on to the next phase in what, for me,
has been a thirty-year effort to clear my own mind of nonsense and
stuff.

I recognize, of course, that the very concept of gematria as a means
of conveying the essence of the world-view of the ancients across
millennia must strike modern minds as lunacy.  But, at one time, the
same was true of the notion that Earth was not the center of the
Universe.

The magical powers of modern technology make it appear that our
scientific savants are smarter than those who laid the foundations of
western civilization over the past few millennia.  Yet, it is still
the case that we cannot possibly know what we don't know.

A point addressed by Hamlet in response to Horatio's exclamation:
"O day and night, but this is wondrous strange!"  To which the
Prince replied: "And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.  There
are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in
your philosophy."

With that, I apologize for the sharp language of some of my earlier
messages - their object was not the individuals addressed but such
aspects of their modus operandi which, in my view, were not conducive
to clarification and eventual resolution of that greatest of all great
mysteries:

The Shakespeare Puzzle.

****

The Platonic Aspect

According to the late Saga scholar Einar Pálsson (d. 1996), the
title character of the 13th century Icelandic Saga masterpiece
'Brennu-Njálssaga' ('Saga of Burnt Njáll') personified
Pythagorean Monad.  As such, Njáll is introduced as a Heathen, who
converts to Christianity on its enactment by the Icelandic Althing
(Parliament) as law of the land in the year 1000 A.D.

In the saga, Njáll's heathen aspects are reflected in the
personification of the Platonic solids and time - Air, Water, Earth,
Fire, Time or, in Icelandic Loft-Vatn-Jörð-Eldr-Tími, 11110
- as three sons of Njáll, plus his son-in-law (Time) and Evil
(Earth) personified as Grímr-Helgi-Mörðr-
Skarpheðinn-Kári, 14943,
with a Platonic Great Year of 25920 calendar years rounding out the
pre-Christian mythical background against which the saga unfolds in
time.

The imagery concerns Microcosmic MAN-Beast as Creation in Time and
Space, with an island off Iceland's south coast, Þrídrangr,
5003, ('Triple Rock') symbolizing the locus of the world´s creation
aligned with three landmarks, whose location mirrors Triangle 3:4:5 -
Bergþórshváll, 7196, Miðeyjarhólmr, 6067, and Helgafell,
3027, as in 5003 + 7196 + 6067 + 3027 = 21293.

Einar Pálsson, who wrote a book in English ('The Sacred Triangle of
Pagan Iceland', 1993) on the multi-faceted symbolism associated with
Triangle 3:4:5 in the context, summarized therein the idea behind its
identification with Microcosmic MAN-Beast as Creation in Time and
Space ('The Cosmos of Rangárhverfi') as follows:

"The triangle 3:4:5 was a part thereof.  Icelandic symbolism
indicates that this Cosmos was an earthly sanctuary (216,000 feet in
diameter) devoted to the gods and representing a projection on the
ground of the sacred area of the heavens." (p. 20)

The associated myth concerned Microcosmic MAN-Beast's 'race through
life', as symbolized in ancient Greece by the Heraean Games - now
known as the Olympic Games.  In the context of Saga Myth, the object
of the 'race through life' was for MAN-Beast to 'shuffle off' its
'mortal coil' alias the fetters of Time and Space or Tími, 2315,
and Rúm, 2312, with a World Age held to be concluded at the end of
a Platonic Great Year, as in 25920 - 2315 - 2312 = 21293.

In Shakespeare Myth, Saga Monad, 1, and its association with the
Platonic solids and time in the context of a Platonic Great Year, as
in 1 11110 + 14943 + 25920 = 51974, were mirrored in 'Sir Francis
Bacon, Knight', 10594, as Saga Triangle 3:4:5 alias Microcosmic
MAN-Beast become Microcosmic Son of Man upon 'shuffling off' his
'mortal coil' of Time and Space, 21293.

In the Middle Ages, a line from Virgil's Fourth Eclogue, "magnus ab
integro saeclorum nascitur ordo", 20087 (Voici Qui Recommence Le Grand
Ordre Des Siècles/The mighty March of Time resumes from nil/The
great succession of centuries is born afresh.) was construed as
prophesying the Coming of Christ.

Thus was the unitary vision of the Augustan-Saga-Shakespeare Authors
'documented' through 'hidden poetry' on the grand themes of
Pagan/Christian Creation Myth to be brought to light in due course
through application of the Saga-Shakespeare Cipher Key which the
Icelandic sage and literary master Snorri Sturluson placed on record
some 750 years ago, embedded in a single sentence in the oldest extant
Icelandic skin manuscript.

Where I discovered and extracted it thirty years ago, as in 10594 +
21293 + 20087 = 51974.

The Augustan Reference Texts

Two Augustan texts - the Alpha lines of Virgil's Fourth Eclogue,
Cipher Value 329540, and the Omega lines of Ovid's Metamorphoses,
Cipher Value 181408) - provided a benchmark Cipher Value (329540 +
181408 = 510948) for salient 'hidden poetry' aspects of the
Shakespeare Opus.

The two Augustan texts plus translations thereof are as follows.

Virgil - Alpha:
Sicelides Musae, paulo maiora canamus!
non omnis arbusta iuvant humilesque myricae;
si canimus silvas, silvae sint consule dignae.
Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis aetas;
magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo.
iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna,
iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto.
tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget gens aurea mundo,
casta fave Lucina: tuus iam regnat Apollo.
teque adeo decus hoc aevi te consule, inibit,
Pollio, et incipient magni procedere menses;
te duce, si qua manent sceleris vestigia nostri,
inrita perpetua solvent formidine terras.
ille deum vitam accipiet divisque videbit
permixtos heroas et ipse videbitur illis,
pacatumque reget patriis virtutibus orbem.*

****
*  Now the last age of Cumae's prophecy has come;  The great
succession of centuries is born afresh.  Now too returns the Virgin,
Saturn's rule returns;  A new begetting now descends from heaven's
height.  O chaste Lucina, look with blessing on the boy Whose birth
will end the iron race at last and raise A golden through the world:
now your Apollo rules. And, Pollio, this glory enters time with you;
Your consulship begins the march of the great months; With you to
guide, if traces of our sin remain, They, nullified, will free the
lands from lasting fear. He will receive the life divine, and see the
gods Mingling with heroes, and himself be seen of them, And rule a
world made peaceful by his father's virtues.
****

Ovid - Omega:
Iamque opus exegi, quod nec Iovis ira nec ignis
nec poterit ferrum nec edax abolere vetustas.
Cum volet, illa dies, quae nil nisi corporis huius
ius habet, incerti spatium mihi finiat aevi:
parte tamen meliore mei super alta perennis
astra ferar, nomenque erit indelebile nostrum,
quaque patet domitis Romana potentia terris,
ore legar populi, perque omnia saecula fama,
si quid habent veri vatum praesagia, vivam.*

****
* And now the measure of my song is done:  The work has reached its
end; the book is mine, None shall unwrite these words: nor angry Jove,
Nor war, nor fire, nor flood, Nor venomous time that eats our lives
away.  Then let that morning come, as come it will, When this disguise
I carry shall be no more, And all the treacherous years of life
undone, And yet my name shall rise to heavenly music, The deathless
music of the circling stars. As long as Rome is the Eternal City These
lines shall echo from the lips of men, As long as poetry speaks truth
on earth, That immortality is mine to wear.
****

The Boy - King of the Jews

In the King James Bible, "the boy whose birth will end the iron race
at last" and who "will receive the life divine", alias The Crucified
King of the Jews, is identified in Matt. 27:37, Mark 15:26, Luke
23:38, and John 19:19 as follows:  THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS,
Cipher Value 16549, THE KING OF THE JEWS, 9214, THIS IS THE KING OF
THE JEWS, 13155, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS, 17710 as in
16549 + 9214 + 13155 + 17710 = 56628.

The Boy is the Once and Future King of Arthurian Myth alias Cosmic
Creative Power, which in Saga Myth is at once Creator of, and one
with, Microcosmic MAN-Beast alias Creation in Time and Space.  The Boy
is Crucified Light of the World, 1000, whose mission is to "free the
lands from lasting fear [...]  And rule a world made peaceful by his
father's virtues" at the end of a World Age which Hindu and Icelandic
Myth identify with the number 432,000.*

****
* One explanation that has been proposed to account for the appearance
of homologous structures and often even identical motifs in the myths
and rites of widely separate cultures is psychological: namely, to
cite a formula of James G. Frazer in The Golden Bough, that such
occurrences are most likely "the effect of similar causes acting alike
on the similar constitution of the human mind in different countries
and under different skies."

There are, however, instances that cannot be accounted for in this
way, and they suggest the need for another interpretation: for
example, in India the number of years assigned to an eon is 4,320,000;
whereas in the Icelandic Poetic Edda it is declared that in Othin's
warrior hall, Valhall, there are 540 doors, through each of which, on
the "day of the war of the wolf", 800 battle-ready warriors will pass
to engage the antigods in combat.  But 540 times 800 equals 432,000!
Moreover, a Chaldean priest, Berossos, writing in Greek ca. 289 B.C.,
reported that according to Mesopotamian belief 432,000 years elapsed
between the crowning of the first earthly king and the coming of the
deluge.  No one, I should think, would wish to argue that these
figures could have arisen independently in India, Iceland, and
Babylon. (Joseph Campbell, The Mythic Image, Bollingen Paperbacks,
Princeton University Press, 1973, p. 72)
****

The Man - Will I Am!  Shake Speare!

Creation in Time and Space is generated by Monad/Cosmic Creative
Power's division into Male and Female aspects - Penis, 2801, and
Vagina, 2414 - whose World-Ending re-union on Mons Veneris, 6783,
"is a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd" (Prince Hamlet in Act
III, Sc. i).*

In Shakespeare Myth, The Boy - Robin Hood's Little John - is
transformed into  'Man' (which stands for the concepts of 'hand',
'beam', and 'penis' in Saga Myth, according to Einar Pálsson) - on
Cosmic Creative Power's command, Will I Am! Shake Speare!, 9322.

As in 56628 + 1000 + 432000 + 9322 + 2801 + 2414 + 6783 = 510948,
closing a two-thousand year circle of 'hidden'
Augustan-Saga-Shakespeare 'poetry'.

****
* This is meant to be only an essay.  It is a first reconnaissance of
a realm well-nigh unexplored and uncharted.  From whichever way one
enters it, one is caught in the same bewildering circular complexity,
as in a labyrinth, for it has no deductive order in the abstract
sense, but instead resembles an organism tightly closed in itself, or
even better, a monumental "Art of the Fugue."

The figure of Hamlet as a favorable starting point came by chance.
Many other avenues offered themselves, rich in strange symbols and
beckoning with great images, but the choice went to Hamlet because he
led the mind on a truly inductive quest through a familiar landscape -
and one which has the merit of its literary setting.  Here is a
character deeply present to our awareness, in whom ambiguities and
uncertainties, tormented self-questioning and dispassionate insight
give a presentiment of the modern mind.  His personal drama was that
he had to be a hero, but still try to avoid the role Destiny assigned
him.  His lucid intellect remained above the conflict of motives - in
other words, his was and is a truly contemporary consciousness.  And
yet this character whom the poet made one of us, the first unhappy
intellectual, concealed a past as a legendary being, his features
predetermined, preshaped by long-standing myth.  There was a numinous
aura around him, and many clues led up to him.  But it was a surprise
to find behind the mask an ancient and all-embracing cosmic power -
the original master of the dreamed-of first age of the world.

Yet in all his guises he remained strangely himself.  The original
Amlóði, as his name was in Icelandic legend, shows the same
characteristics of melancholy and high intellect.  He, too, is a son
dedicated to avenge his father, a speaker of cryptic but inescapable
truths, an elusive carrier of Fate who must yield once his mission is
accomplished and sink once more into concealment in the depths of time
to which he belongs:  Lord of the Golden Age, the Once and Future
King.

This essay will follow the figure farther and farther afield, from the
Northland to Rome, from there to Finland, Iran, and India; he will
appear again unmistakably in Polynesian legend.  Many other Dominions
and Powers will materialize to frame him within the proper order.

Amlóði was identified, in the crude and vivid imagery of the Norse,
by the ownership of a fabled mill which, in his own time, ground out
peace and plenty.  Later, in decaying times, it ground out salt; and
now finally, having landed at the bottom of the sea, it is grinding
rock and sand, creating a vast whirlpool, the Maelstrom (i.e. the
grinding stream, from the [Icelandic] verb mala, "to grind"), which is
supposed to be a way to the land of the dead.  This imagery stands, as
the evidence develops, for an astronomical process, the secular
shifting of the sun through the signs of the zodiac which determines
world-ages, each numbering thousands of years.  Each age brings a
World Era, a Twilight of the Gods.  Great structures collapse; pillars
topple which supported the great fabric; floods and cataclysms herald
the shaping of a new world. (Giorgio de Santillana, Hamlet's Mill - An
Essay on Myth and the Frame of Time, 1969; Second Paperback Edition,
David R. Godine, Publisher, Boston, 1983, pp. 1-2.)

****
The Saga-Shakespeare Cipher Key and Calculator are posted on the
Internet at http://www.light-of-truth.com/ gunnartomasson/ciphers.htm

--- In torahcosmos@yahoogroups.com, "nuchamber" <nuchamber@y...>
wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I want to take this opportunity to say "Thank You" to 2 special
> contributors to this forum; Gunnar Tomasson and William Meegan.
>
> William's article concerning the "Sistine Chapel" is full of key
> insights.
>
> Gunnar's works are a magnificent contribution to greater and
greater
> understanding of the ways of the spirit in human evolution.
>
> Though I haven't contribute much to the forum lately, I assure you
that
> the contributions of these 2 members have not been for nought.
>
> Thanks again, Jud (nuchamber@y...)

Greetings,

I want to take this opportunity to say "Thank You" to 2 special
contributors to this forum; Gunnar Tomasson and William Meegan.

William's article concerning the "Sistine Chapel" is full of key
insights.

Gunnar's works are a magnificent contribution to greater and greater
understanding of the ways of the spirit in human evolution.

Though I haven't contribute much to the forum lately, I assure you that
the contributions of these 2 members have not been for nought.

Thanks again, Jud (nuchamber@...)

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