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Concensus on installation of "Anti-Cable" speaker wiring   Message List  
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Re: Looking for DIY Front Corner Bass / Room Treatment

The one store I go to just has a set of of 1/4 circle rolled pices of
wood with felt covering. They are only about 5 feet high raised just
slightly off the floor. It made a massive difference and its simple!


--- In toronto-audiophiles@yahoogroups.com, "Aleksandar Matijaca"
<amatijaca@...> wrote:
>
> I have seen home-made bass traps - there are quite a few DIY videos
on
> youtube...
> a.m.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andre Nickell <infotrad@...>
wrote:
>
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas on making two front corner bass
treatment units.
> > My system is along the narrow wall of the living room (approx.
15' wide),
> > and the speakers are about 8 fee apart and three feet into the
room. There's
> > carpeting shelving and a book case along the two walls. A bay
window of
> > about 9 feet is behing the system. I want to put something to
improve the
> > sound in the corners behind and leaf and right the spekers (DIY
d'Appolito
> > design w/Scan-Speaks--whose bass is tighter than Margaret
Thatcher ever
> > was).
> >
> > Any comments welcome
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Rene Stock <rene.stock@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Rene Stock <rene.stock@...>
> > Subject: Re: [toronto-audiophiles] Re: Concensus on installation
of
> > "Anti-Cable" speaker wiring
> > To: toronto-audiophiles@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 4:55 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Andre,
> >
> > It is Magnetwire - which means it is coated! If you look at the
> > windings on any transformer you see the wires touching; there is a
> > small amount of insulating enamel coating the wire:
> >
> > http://www.mwswire. com/pdf_files/ mws_tech_ book/multifilar. pdf
> >
> > You can choose different diameters and different insulating
material.
> >
> > I still have some Anti-Cable around, but for anyone who wants to
> > experiment, get some cheap magnet wire and make your own speaker
cable.
> >
> > Rene
> >
> > On 19-Nov-08, at 7:04 PM, Andre Nickell wrote:
> >
> > > But what about the fact that this wire would not be coated.
Would
> > > you not have to put some sort of coating to prevent shorts?
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Roach, Ken (GE EntSol, Security)
<ken.roach@...
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Roach, Ken (GE EntSol, Security) <ken.roach@ge. com>
> > > Subject: RE: [toronto-audiophile s] Re: Concensus on
installation of
> > > "Anti-Cable" speaker wiring
> > > To: toronto-audiophiles @yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 7:49 AM
> > >
> > > Actually, that is a great idea Rene. A 30 meter roll of #12 awg
magnet
> > > wire as a bulk purchase is exactly what we should do - I am in,
if you
> > > want to do this. We could also buy a hockey-sock full of better
spades
> > > (gold plated instead of copper) and make up sets as required.
> > >
> > > I am glad that you mention that twisting seems to help the hf,
as that
> > > is why I chose to do this right away.
> > >
> > > Ken.
> > >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > >
> > > From: toronto-audiophiles @yahoogroups. com
> > > [mailto:toronto- audiophiles @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Rene Stock
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:28 AM
> > > To: toronto-audiophiles @yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject: Re: [toronto-audiophile s] Re: Concensus on
installation of
> > > "Anti-Cable" speaker wiring
> > >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > > I used the Anticables for while on my Abbys and tried them
parallel
> > > and twisted. Without twisting the loss of hf signal was very
> > > noticable. Twisting brought back the hf extension due to the
overall
> > > much more consistent electrical properties. The anti-cables do
many
> > > things right - it is also very instructive to switch back to a
regular
> > > wire after a few months.
> > >
> > > If you want to save on the Anticables, what about a group buy
of 100ft
> > > roll of the exact same magnet wire, it should cost about $50 for
> > > 100ft ;)
> > >
> > > I still have a bare non-terminated one in the closet, that I
haven't
> > > been using for a while. I guess I should put some Cardas spades
on and
> > > try again.
> > >
> > > Rene
> > >
> > > On 19-Nov-08, at 7:45 AM, Roach, Ken (GE EntSol, Security)
wrote:
> > >
> > > > As I said, this surprised me as much as anyone. It's just a
hunk of
> > > > magnet wire - #12 copper with an enamel-type coating. If you
had
> > > > told me
> > > > that these would make my system sound better, I would have
said that
> > > > you
> > > > were nuts. Now that I have them, I cannot deny that there was
a big
> > > > change. For the money, they do what they claim and I guess
that is
> > > all
> > > > that anyone can ask for. Paul also has a return policy, so
you can't
> > > > really lose on these.
> > > >
> > > > Ken.
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > >
> > > > From: toronto-audiophiles @yahoogroups. com
> > > <mailto:toronto- audiophiles% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > > [mailto:toronto- audiophiles @yahoogroups. com
> > > <mailto:toronto- audiophiles% 40yahoogroups. com> ] On Behalf
Of Jon
> > > Lax
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:46 PM
> > > > To: toronto-audiophiles @yahoogroups. com
> > > <mailto:toronto- audiophiles% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > > Subject: [toronto-audiophile s] Re: Concensus on installation
of
> > > > "Anti-Cable" speaker wiring
> > > >
> > > > Wow, this is a great review. I have looked at the Anti Cables
a few
> > > > times but always thought it
> > > > ws too good to be true. My Martin Logan Aeon's could benefit
from
> > > the
> > > > drop in inductance
> > > > and capacitance. This makes me think I should give them a
shot.
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Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:04 pm

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I purchased two pairs of Anti-Cable speaker cables (1.5 meters - 2 sets as the Paradigm P-40 speakers are bi-wired) from Paul Speltz. I received same last...
Roach, Ken (GE EntSol...
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Nov 18, 2008
1:06 pm

Ken: It's nice to read a success story. The Morrow cables had pretty much the same affect on my system. These cables are NOT twisted...just bunched at regular...
Jennifer Lobo
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Nov 18, 2008
2:37 pm

What I find interesting is that in this month's issue of the British Hi Fi magazine, there's an article on calbles, and the Anti-Cables are included i it. The...
Andre Nickell
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Nov 18, 2008
5:54 pm

I find that the problem with a lot of reviews when they are comparing others with whatever they are reviewing. One needs to find an independent review that...
Roach, Ken (GE EntSol...
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Nov 18, 2008
6:11 pm

Wow, this is a great review. I have looked at the Anti Cables a few times but always thought it ws too good to be true. My Martin Logan Aeon's could benefit...
Jon Lax
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Nov 19, 2008
2:45 am

As I said, this surprised me as much as anyone. It's just a hunk of magnet wire - #12 copper with an enamel-type coating. If you had told me that these would...
Roach, Ken (GE EntSol...
mamodbasher
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Nov 19, 2008
12:45 pm

Ken, I used the Anticables for while on my Abbys and tried them parallel and twisted. Without twisting the loss of hf signal was very noticable. Twisting...
Rene Stock
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Nov 19, 2008
3:28 pm

Actually, that is a great idea Rene. A 30 meter roll of #12 awg magnet wire as a bulk purchase is exactly what we should do - I am in, if you want to do this....
Roach, Ken (GE EntSol...
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Nov 19, 2008
3:49 pm

But what about the fact that this wire would not be coated. Would you not have to put some sort of coating to prevent shorts? ... From: Roach, Ken (GE EntSol,...
Andre Nickell
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Nov 20, 2008
12:37 am

Andre, It is Magnetwire - which means it is coated! If you look at the windings on any transformer you see the wires touching; there is a small amount of...
Rene Stock
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Nov 20, 2008
12:55 am

Does anyone have any ideas on making two front corner bass treatment units. My system is along the narrow wall of the living room (approx. 15' wide), and the...
Andre Nickell
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Nov 20, 2008
4:40 pm

I have seen home-made bass traps - there are quite a few DIY videos on youtube... a.m. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Aleksandar Matijaca
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Nov 20, 2008
6:25 pm

The one store I go to just has a set of of 1/4 circle rolled pices of wood with felt covering. They are only about 5 feet high raised just slightly off the...
kentheguitarguy
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Nov 20, 2008
7:04 pm

I own a pair of 5 foot runs of the anti-cables and have them without any twists but straight runs. they sound great and are dirt cheap. The downside of course...
Grant Robinson
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Nov 19, 2008
5:34 am

Hi Grant - I did not do a comparison on straight vs. twisted, I just went for the twisted from the start. If you read the little sheet that Paul includes with...
Roach, Ken (GE EntSol...
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Nov 19, 2008
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Hmm. I bought the cables used so never received Paul's included instruction sheet. I will have to try and hunt it down. Certainly I'v never seen a drop off...
Grant Robinson
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Nov 20, 2008
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