Hello transLuciders,

I wanted to let everyone here know that we have started previewing
transLucidonline - the hosted solution of
transLucid.! This final phase, before making it available to everyone
else, is to solicit more feedback on what we've created and to ensure
it's the most useful product for people looking for an easy way to
create and maintain website content.

I invite you to sign up for the preview under this URL
http://www.translucidonline.com/preview-signup/

With transLucidonline, we take care of the hosting for you and
upgrading to new transLucid versions. More features and layouts will
automatically be available with every new release to your site. We
also allow hosting of your domain name which you can link with your
transLucidonline site.

We will continue to release open-source versions of transLucid for
people who are able to run their own servers. In fact, the next
release v1.75 is now on Sandbox (http://www.pantha.net/sandbox/) and
will soon move onto transLucidonline. We are currently toying with the
idea of making some features exclusive to transLucidonline - even if
only for a certain period of time - to encourage joining the site and
supporting our development efforts although we haven't agreed on a
definite plan of action for this yet.

All the best,
Bjoern

> So instead of this
> > http://www.millepiani.net/translucid/index.php?NodeID=6
> > you will be able to write
> > http://www.millepiani.net/translucid/millepiani
> > to display the page.

Yes, yes, yes! Waiting patiently for this feature will be difficult <grin>

Thanks!

I await for....

emilio

--- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, "bjoern_schliebitz" <bjoern@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Emilio,

>
> Over the last 3 weeks we developed a more user-friendly way of
writing
> out the URLs of transLucid sites which will make it easy to read and
> write them out.
>
> So instead of this
> http://www.millepiani.net/translucid/index.php?NodeID=6
> you will be able to write
> http://www.millepiani.net/translucid/millepiani filosofici
> to display the page.
>
> The old way of referencing the pages with NodeID will still work so
> that already existing sites and link into those will not break.
>

Hi Glen,

> I certainly hope that transLucid is continuing development. It is
> excellent software and I'd like to see both the transLucidOnline and
> the downloadable 1.65 system updated for release.

And which will happen very soon in fact if all goes according to plan.
The next release will feature amongst other things a further improved
editing-mode that will allow faster modifications of the page
structure and a user- and search-engine friendly way of writing out
the URLs.

> My issue is: I would like to see some additional presentation
> templates. The ones that are included have some display problems (most
> flash during re-draw when changing topics, which gets to be unpleasant
> after awhile.) Also, I'm not at the level of being able to edit these
> templates myself, so I'm at the mercy of the individuals who do this
> and then release them to the community. Any assistance would be
> appreciated.

Thank you for your observations. This fits in well with our current
work this month as we are re-doing some of the layouts as well. In
fact we'll discuss this in our weekly call tonight. Also have a look
at some of the website layouts (tab and vertical) which keep a steady
display rather than adapting in any way to the content or window height.
For transLucidonline, we will definitely further increase the number
of different layouts to suit our small and medium business customers
as well.

> Glen

All the Best,
Bjoern

Hi Emilio,

I just saw that there's not been a reply to your question; sorry for
the delay.! Answer below.

> I utilise translucid 1.60 for a rizhomatic blog with GUI  (thanks Ton
> Haarmans!!!!!!) and centralize comments system.
Thank you.

> It's possible to change the number's node in 'name node' in
> translucid 1.60 or 1.65?

The number of the node is assigned automatically by transLucid and can
not be changed. It is used internally in the programming to reference
the nodes/ pages.

Over the last 3 weeks we developed a more user-friendly way of writing
out the URLs of transLucid sites which will make it easy to read and
write them out.

So instead of this
http://www.millepiani.net/translucid/index.php?NodeID=6
you will be able to write
http://www.millepiani.net/translucid/millepiani filosofici
to display the page.

The old way of referencing the pages with NodeID will still work so
that already existing sites and link into those will not break.

> thanks
>
> emilio
>
> lucidified site:
>
> http://www.millepiani.net/translucid/


All the Best,
Bjoern

Hi there,

I certainly hope that transLucid is continuing development. It is
excellent software and I'd like to see both the transLucidOnline and
the downloadable 1.65 system updated for release.

My issue is: I would like to see some additional presentation
templates. The ones that are included have some display problems (most
flash during re-draw when changing topics, which gets to be unpleasant
after awhile.) Also, I'm not at the level of being able to edit these
templates myself, so I'm at the mercy of the individuals who do this
and then release them to the community. Any assistance would be
appreciated.

Glen

Hi!

I utilise translucid 1.60 for a rizhomatic blog with GUI  (thanks Ton
Haarmans!!!!!!) and centralize comments system.

It's possible to change the number's node in 'name node' in
translucid 1.60 or 1.65?

thanks

emilio

lucidified site:

http://www.millepiani.net/translucid/

Hi Guillem,

> I am trying to develop a bilingual website (Catalan/English) with
> Translucid.
> The question is that Catalan is not in the default list of languages
> and  I don't know how to add it.
> I've tried to modify the 'ConfigVars.class.php' by adding
> 'ca'=>'Catalan' in the 'aLanguageList' array, but the language doesn't
> appear in Admin>Language>Select default language. What should I do?

You did the right thing. It should have worked. I tried the same in my
local environment and was successful. I'll paste in the array into
this message at the bottom. Replace it with what you have currently in
your local ConfigVars.class.php . Let me know if this works for you.

> Also, I've tried to translate messages.xml to Spanish by duplicating
> the default folder 'en_EN' and renaming it to 'es_ES'(and then
> translating the file messages.xml inside this last folder). But
> doesn't seem to work.
> What I'm doing wrong?

I don't know... yet. Could you send the messages.xml file to bjoern at
pantha.net? We have some people who use localised versions and intend
to add these to the standard package in the future. If you send it to
me, I'll have a look at what might be the problem.

> Thank you very much,

Most welcome, thank you for using transLucid.!

> Guillem

All the Best,
Bjoern

PS: Here the contents of the array in ConfigVars.class.php that you
need to replace;

		 $this->m_aVars['aLanguageList']= array(
'ar'=>'Arabic',
'bs'=>'Bosnian',
'bg'=>'Bulgarian',
'km'=>'Cambodian',
'ca'=>'Cathalan',
'hr'=>'Croatian',
'cs'=>'Czech',
'da'=>'Danish',
'nl'=>'Dutch',
'en'=>'English',
'et'=>'Estonian',
'fi'=>'Finnish',
'fr'=>'French',
'de'=>'German',
'el'=>'Greek',
'iw'=>'Hebrew',
'hi'=>'Hindi',
'hu'=>'Hungarian',
'is'=>'Icelandic',
'id'=>'Indonesian',
'it_IT'=>'Italian',
'ja'=>'Japanese',
'lv'=>'Latvian',
'lt'=>'Lithuanian',
'ms'=>'Malay',
'no'=>'Norwegian',
'pl'=>'Polish',
'pt'=>'Portuguese',
'ro'=>'Romanian',
'ru'=>'Russian',
'sl'=>'Slovenian',
'es'=>'Spanish',
'sv'=>'Swedish',
'ta'=>'Tamil',
'th'=>'Thai',
'tr'=>'Turkish',
'vi'=>'Vietnamese',
'zu'=>'Zulu');
 	 }

Hello,
I am trying to develop a bilingual website (Catalan/English) with
Translucid.
The question is that Catalan is not in the default list of languages
and  I don't know how to add it.
I've tried to modify the 'ConfigVars.class.php' by adding
'ca'=>'Catalan' in the 'aLanguageList' array, but the language doesn't
appear in Admin>Language>Select default language. What should I do?

Also, I've tried to translate messages.xml to Spanish by duplicating
the default folder 'en_EN' and renaming it to 'es_ES'(and then
translating the file messages.xml inside this last folder). But
doesn't seem to work.
What I'm doing wrong?

Thank you very much,
Guillem

Very interesting to hear Chris. Honestly, only Ton our designer has
found the time to closely look at PB4 and i think he might have also
bought a license.

If the notes are indeed stored within the PBA file itself (are they?)
it should not be too difficult to retrieve them from the file. I am
smelling a potential low-hanging fruit here.? But then again, it would
be great to have a look at the format.

Could you send us (info@... or bjoern@...) an example
brain-file that you created with PB4 and exported to PBA format?

Thanks for thinking of this.

All the Best,
Bjoern

--- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, Chris Case <chris@...> wrote:
>
> Now that PersonalBrain 4 has the capability to export in PBA format, I
> wonder if it is possible to import the PBA file into TransLucid.
> Reading the file at http://www.pantha.net/index.php?NodeID=15  I see
> mention of the need to convert RTF files to HTML,  but since PB4 now
> saves notes as HTML, is it now possible to import without that
> conversion? If so, what would be the procedure?
>
> --
> __________________________________
> now weaving.....
> http://FloatingWorldWeb.com
> __________________________________
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Now that PersonalBrain 4 has the capability to export in PBA format, I
wonder if it is possible to import the PBA file into TransLucid.
Reading the file at http://www.pantha.net/index.php?NodeID=15  I see
mention of the need to convert RTF files to HTML,  but since PB4 now
saves notes as HTML, is it now possible to import without that
conversion? If so, what would be the procedure?

--
__________________________________
now weaving.....
http://FloatingWorldWeb.com
__________________________________



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Glen,

Yes, we will definitely add the ability to attach multiple file per
page. In fact, we identified a couple of other features that we feel
are currently "missing" in the core offering of transLucid. The new
core features will be:
* Plugin framework with a comments and voting plugin to be created first
* Enhancement to the transLucid RSS/Atom feeds so that you can see
latest changes as well as changes made to the whole site
* Ability for multiple editors to edit a site with different logins
* Adding multiple attachments as i already said
* Some user-interface improvements to our support of multi-language
site content
* Easy-to-read and type URLs
(http://www.yourdomain.com/view/homepagecontent/ instead of
http://www.yourdomain.com/index.php?nodeid=1)
* Being able to search not only the names of nodes and their content
but also the content of your attached files

All of the above features will be open-sourced.

You may add the type of files transLucid accepts as valid in the admin
panel under the "System" tab and "acceptable file formats". Add in the
file-type transLucid tells you is not acceptable after an attempted
upload, hit save and it should work.

What this reminded me of is that we need to add more common file-types
to the ones we already have in there and will add this into our
bug-database. Funny though that PPT is not accepted because it is in
there as "application/mspowerpoint". If you could send me as which
file-type your browsers views the PPT files that would help.


All the Best,
Bjoern

--- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, "gcoulthard99" <gcoulthard@...> wrote:
>
> Will it be possible to add multiple links and file attachments per
> node. Also, I am searching for a list of "acceptable" file
> attachments. For example, I can upload PDFs, but not PPTs.
>
> Thanks for your efforts on this -- great software!
>
> Glen
>

Will it be possible to add multiple links and file attachments per
node. Also, I am searching for a list of "acceptable" file
attachments. For example, I can upload PDFs, but not PPTs.

Thanks for your efforts on this -- great software!

Glen

We are getting ready to open the doors to translucidonline.com as we
are currently at a function complete stage of the project. While we
are bringing in the rest of the website content, we would love to
receive early feedback on the hosted transLucid version. We will open
for private beta within June and would like to extend an invitation to
you. Our private beta participants will receive the chance to sign-up
at outrageous discounts and more (!) as a thank-you for being on board
with us early on. Your valuable feedback will help us make
translucidonline.com an even better place for people to publish and
share their content on.

If you would like to be part of the upcoming closed + private beta
test, please sign-up here
http://www.translucidonline.com/private-beta-signup/ . We will send
you a confirmation by e-mail soon after your sign-up.

Who is translucidonline.com for?
We developed transLucid for the sole practitioners, freelancers and
small companies amongst us that do not have their own IT resources and
want to publish their content onto the web as quickly and easily as
possible. transLucid is much more than a wiki, it's a full-blown
website generator tool.

What does it allow you to do?
Create real websites including the possibility to host your own domain
with the ease-of-use of a CMS but at the speed-of-light of a wiki
system. Choose from a pre-defined set of templates that is ever
expanding. Customise these website layouts yourself (in the future) or
request a personal template from one of our designers. And publish
your knowledge to the web with PersonalBrain 3 now and MindManager in
a future release. The ability to import & export content into and out
of transLucid is an important differentiator to other wiki's and CMS
which we will build on in the future.

At what price?
For as much as it would cost you to go to the movies. :)


We are looking forward to getting one step closer to our vision (see
www.pantha.net) to "create a platform that people will be able to
access with any device & OS of their choosing, from wherever they may
be, having the same interface and access to their content & data at
any given place. We will provide an alternative solution to the
current metaphor of the desktop and will consequently have a tight
integration with your application and device(s)."

Ever onwards..!

All the Best,
Bjoern
--
PR Director of the transLucid team

http://www.pantha.net/translucid/
"your easy to install & use publishing system"

Yes, it is true. We are releasing transLucid v1.65 today..!

Intro
This is exactly 222 days after we released the previous version and
about 192 days too late for which we want to greatly apologise. But
then again, this should also show that we are in it for the long run
and committed to the continuation of the project. No promises but we
are working hard on getting back to a monthly (!) release-cycle.

In the last 6 months, the core team (Agnes, Ton and myself) has been
mainly focused on the specification and development (thanks to our
outsourcing team NextGen Solutions) of the hosted transLucid solution
available under www.translucidonline.com; more details on that in
another mail. The project is also now governed by Pantha Software Ltd.
so that there is a clear responsibility and ownership of the
transLucid project. Additionally, given that we are still a small team
with limited budget we simply had to ensure that we would financially
survive while continuing our efforts in regards to transLucid.

Download & Try out
You may download version 1.65 of transLucid from:
http://www.pantha.net/download/

Our sandbox has the latest version installed as well:
http://www.pantha.net/sandbox/

Changes over previous version
* Greatly expanded documentation available under
http://www.pantha.net/documentation/
* Many new templates to choose from with more in the pipeline
* Fixed bugs (such as integration of logo) and cross-browser
compatibility issues in templates
* Multiple sub-sites can run independently on 1 server
* Core-libraries and templates can now be shared across multiple
instances of transLucid sites
* Siblings - that is pages on the same hierarchical level as the
current page - are now displayed in editing mode
* PersonalBrain V3 importing/exporting now works even when there is no
MySQL database (bugfix)
* Notice in PHP (4+) bug that "only variables should be assigned by
reference" fixed

Known issues
* When using file-based storage (RSS) instead of MySQL, you can not
use fulltext search
* No other critical issues known at this point (all that we rated as
non-critical can be accessed here http://pantha.net/team/bugtracking/ )

A look into the coming weeks
First of all, i would like to re-iterate that the core of transLucid
is going to remain open-source. It can be downloaded under sourceforge
by anyone and we are *now* accepting new designers and developers to
join the team!
With the introduction of translucidonline.com we will invest further
into the development of a new plugin-architecture and an extended
importing & exporting capability. Some of this functionality will move
to being proprietary although we will be looking for ways to
transition them into public space as we go.

Most importantly, we have an expanded and larger team of developers
that will support us going forward in the continuation of this
transLucid journey. This will hopefully translate into shortened
release-cycles and many more innovations down the road for the greater
benefit of our growing user-base. We look forward to supporting you
and making transLucid the best publishing system ever!

Outro
As always, we look forward to hear your thoughts on transLucid and the
things you would like us to improve on in our 'transLucid yahoogroup'
or by writing us under info@... .


All the Best,
Bjoern
--
PR Director of the transLucid team

http://www.pantha.net/translucid/
"your easy to install & use publishing system"

Hi Chris,

Personally, i love the visual look the new export of PB4 has.
Touchgraph (http://touchgraph.com) has by the way recently released a
new version of their visual browser in which they might have solved
issues we experienced with very large brains (and therefore removed
support for Touchgraph for the time being) previously.

What we will not be able to do for PersonalBrain users for the
foreseeable future is an integration into PersonalBrain itself.
TheBrain does not support 3rd parties from developing plugins/
extensions to their software. Mindjet with their product MindManager
does.

We will certainly do our best to support PB4 format and a member of
the transLucid team will purchase one of their versions now that it's
out so that we can study the XML format. Users of PB and tL will
always have to go through the steps of export PB, import tL, export tL
to achieve a "round-trip" though. The lack of integration with the
desktop application itself means that we believe there to be much
lesser enthusiasm (and willingness to pay) for a product that simply
does not seem to reach its potential. Again; we certainly want to get
to it but do have to carefully evaluate where we place our resources
given the small team that we are. We need to work on things where we
can add lots of real value.

translucidonline.com has been making good progress in recent weeks and
we are now working on content, rather than functional aspects of the
site by the way. We will invite users for private beta testing after
completing the content. The biggest pain that we'll remove for
transLucid users is the installation and compatibility issues current
users experience from time to time with their environments. And we
will also offer domain hosting so that people will be able to host
their complete website with transLucid. More on all of this to follow
in connection with our next release v1.65 of transLucid.

All the Best,
Bjoern

--- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, Chris Case <chris@...> wrote:
>
>
> If we look back in time to the origins of TransLucid, I think we find
> that the idea and motivation for it came from the desire of many people
> on the Personal Brain Yahoo list to find a way to export a brain to a
> website.  Copyright issues seemed to rule out the use of anything
> resembling the Brain's plex, despite various musings about TouchGraph.
>
> But now that Personal Brain 4 is in Beta, and provides the
capability of
> creating a SiteBrain with a plex interface,  I wonder if it might
not be
> a good idea to consider how TransLucid can integrate with rather
than be
> an alternative to the PB SiteBrain.
>
> To oversimplify a bit, the primary advantages of TransLucid over an
> ordinary website with sidebar menu are
> a. Its preserving the Jump feature of PB.
> b. Its online editability
>
> The SiteBrain export  can produce either the animated version or a
> simple HTML export which superficially resembles the TYransLucid
> layout.  But neither export is editable by users,  which seems to rule
> out collaborative Brainwork.
>
> But it is perfectly possible to have a link in a SiteBrain which
> displays, in the content window below, a TransLucid  page, which could
> be the TL version of the same original brain.  Thus editing capacity
> would be immediately available within a SiteBrain, and one would have
> the best of both worlds.  You can get an idea of how this would look at
> this page, which displays a SimpleHTML export in a window of a
> SiteBrain. Imagine replacing that with a TransLucid page.
> http://floatingworldweb.com/plex/#-2507
>
> For this to work, it would have to be easy to transfer the edited TL
> database back to PB4 for integration with the original and re-export to
> the SiteBrain.
>
> I would suggest that the programming team give siome consideration to
> this notion, which implies that the  synchronisation-with-PB4
> capabilities might move higher on the list of priorities.  It seems to
> me at least as important as MindManager compatibility,  and that if by
> the time PB4 is out of Beta it is done,  TransLucid will be seen as
> extending PB's capabilities, rather than as lacking some of them....
>
> Please excuse any apparent presumption in my proposing policy that may
> be very different from current thinking...
>
> --
> __________________________________
> CASE by CASE: http://chriscase.net
> __________________________________
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

If we look back in time to the origins of TransLucid, I think we find
that the idea and motivation for it came from the desire of many people
on the Personal Brain Yahoo list to find a way to export a brain to a
website.  Copyright issues seemed to rule out the use of anything
resembling the Brain's plex, despite various musings about TouchGraph.

But now that Personal Brain 4 is in Beta, and provides the capability of
creating a SiteBrain with a plex interface,  I wonder if it might not be
a good idea to consider how TransLucid can integrate with rather than be
an alternative to the PB SiteBrain.

To oversimplify a bit, the primary advantages of TransLucid over an
ordinary website with sidebar menu are
a. Its preserving the Jump feature of PB.
b. Its online editability

The SiteBrain export  can produce either the animated version or a
simple HTML export which superficially resembles the TYransLucid
layout.  But neither export is editable by users,  which seems to rule
out collaborative Brainwork.

But it is perfectly possible to have a link in a SiteBrain which
displays, in the content window below, a TransLucid  page, which could
be the TL version of the same original brain.  Thus editing capacity
would be immediately available within a SiteBrain, and one would have
the best of both worlds.  You can get an idea of how this would look at
this page, which displays a SimpleHTML export in a window of a
SiteBrain. Imagine replacing that with a TransLucid page.
http://floatingworldweb.com/plex/#-2507

For this to work, it would have to be easy to transfer the edited TL
database back to PB4 for integration with the original and re-export to
the SiteBrain.

I would suggest that the programming team give siome consideration to
this notion, which implies that the  synchronisation-with-PB4
capabilities might move higher on the list of priorities.  It seems to
me at least as important as MindManager compatibility,  and that if by
the time PB4 is out of Beta it is done,  TransLucid will be seen as
extending PB's capabilities, rather than as lacking some of them....

Please excuse any apparent presumption in my proposing policy that may
be very different from current thinking...

--
__________________________________
CASE by CASE: http://chriscase.net
__________________________________



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Hi Emilio,

Yes it will be possible to download the GUI. Our team has had to deal
with one or two too many things in recent months and thus we've been
unable to deliver the next version 1.65 of transLucid so far.

We have however completed testing and are now moving into fixing
outstanding bugs on it. The GUI is one of the new themes we are
introducing with v1.65 of transLucid.

All the Best,
Bjoern

--- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, "emilioraimondi" <millepiani@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, "bjoern_schliebitz" <bjoern@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> >
>
> >
> > Our design-guru Ton has just finished a new theme for transLucid we
> > call the bookmarks-theme. Have a look at the GUI interface and let
> us
> > know what you think of it http://pantha.net/bookmarks/ .
> >
> > All the Best,
> > Bjoern
> >
>
>
> It is possible download the GUI interface?
> I work in my website (www.millepiani.net/translucid/index.php) with
> translucid, and i would like work with gui.
>
> thanks
>
> Emilio
>

--- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, "bjoern_schliebitz" <bjoern@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>

>
> Our design-guru Ton has just finished a new theme for transLucid we
> call the bookmarks-theme. Have a look at the GUI interface and let
us
> know what you think of it http://pantha.net/bookmarks/ .
>
> All the Best,
> Bjoern
>


It is possible download the GUI interface?
I work in my website (www.millepiani.net/translucid/index.php) with
translucid, and i would like work with gui.

thanks

Emilio

Hi Chris,

We are sharing your opinion that PB4 - while a solid improvement of
the product itself (have only installed the Beta once yet myself) - it
is not fully web-enabled.

We are going to support PB4, there is no doubt. We haven't been able
to set any dates for it yet though. Furiously working on
translucidonline.com. Also, we would really like the MindManager
Import/Export to come first although the possibility exists to do both
in parallel given that we now have a small development-team working
with us on transLucid.

The PersonalBrain (3) notes can already be imported and displayed in
transLucid. If you would like to i can provide you access to a
transLucid site where you can try that out.
To display URls is something that we would like very much but due to
many websites "breaking out" of frames/iframes with scripting, it is
really best implemented by opening a new browser window.

Our design-guru Ton has just finished a new theme for transLucid we
call the bookmarks-theme. Have a look at the GUI interface and let us
know what you think of it http://pantha.net/bookmarks/ .

All the Best,
Bjoern

--- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, Chris Case <chris@...> wrote:
>
> I mentioned before that,while Personal Brain 4 may appear to be
stealing
> some of Translucid's thunder, in fact it is partly the collaborative
> potential of Translucid that keeps it from being redundant.
>
> I myself am currently participating in the PB4 Beta project, and
foresee
> using both PB4 and Translucid in future.  I would like to use
Translucid
> as a way to work with other people to create new content,  and PB4 to
> publish non-user-editable sites.
>
> To do this, of course, it will be necessary to be able to transfer
> information back and forth between both programs, but I gather that as
> yet Translucid is only able to do this with PB3 files.  Is this correct?
>
> PB4 provides 2 types of site export:  one with a plex, and one that
> resembles the Translucid layout,  but neither of these is
> user-editable.  One feature of the animated version is that if a
thought
> has only one attachment, e.g. a link to a URL,  that URL page is
> displayed below the plex.  This is not the case with the simple HTML
export.
>
> I made the suggestion some time ago that it would be good if Translucid
> offered the option of displaying in the main pane either the Note
> content or the attached URL.  If this could be added to Translucid,  it
> would become even more useful as a portal site.  Is this possible?
>
> __________________________________
> CASE by CASE: http://chriscase.net
> __________________________________
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I mentioned before that,while Personal Brain 4 may appear to be stealing
some of Translucid's thunder, in fact it is partly the collaborative
potential of Translucid that keeps it from being redundant.

I myself am currently participating in the PB4 Beta project, and foresee
using both PB4 and Translucid in future.  I would like to use Translucid
as a way to work with other people to create new content,  and PB4 to
publish non-user-editable sites.

To do this, of course, it will be necessary to be able to transfer
information back and forth between both programs, but I gather that as
yet Translucid is only able to do this with PB3 files.  Is this correct?

PB4 provides 2 types of site export:  one with a plex, and one that
resembles the Translucid layout,  but neither of these is
user-editable.  One feature of the animated version is that if a thought
has only one attachment, e.g. a link to a URL,  that URL page is
displayed below the plex.  This is not the case with the simple HTML export.

I made the suggestion some time ago that it would be good if Translucid
offered the option of displaying in the main pane either the Note
content or the attached URL.  If this could be added to Translucid,  it
would become even more useful as a portal site.  Is this possible?

__________________________________
CASE by CASE: http://chriscase.net
__________________________________



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Thank you, Agnes,

Removing and re-creating the DB in MySQL worked beautifully.

I appreciate your responsiveness.
Glen

Hi Glen,

This notice means that for some reason there is an attribute missing
("creationtime") in your current data set (maybe an older db from a previous
version?)
This does not prevent translucid to run but generates this notice.

If you want to get rid of this notice (that won't resolve the missing index)
you could edit the index.php file which is under your translucid root and
replace the line that reads:
*error_reporting(E_ALL);
*by
*error_reporting(**E_ERROR);*
This will lower the level of error reporting for PHP errors and the notice
wont be displayed any longer.

If you wish to fix your current data set probably the best way would be to :
1/ export your current data in translucid format (go to admin > export )
2/ delete all the tables in your mysql DB (using phpmyadmin would be the
easiest)
3/ go back to your translucid which will prompt you for a new install
(however all your configuration info will be preserved)
4/ at the end of the install go to admin > import and import your data (the
zip you just exported in step 1/ ). This should populate a brand new DB with
your existing data and should fix this "missing index" issue.

Hope this helps . If you experience issue with the latter procedure, send me
your exported data set (zip) and I'll see what I can do.


Cheers
Agnes
Chief Architect
Pantha Team


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Would anyone be able to help me decipher this line that appears at the
top of each page?

Notice: Undefined index: creationtime in c:\program
files\easyphp\www\translucid_16\classes\net\pantha\translucid\core\storage\db\DB\
NodeRequester.class.php
on line 117

Thanks for any assistance,
Glen

Hi
Tillman Bielefeld, one of our main programmers, has found a way to
display the node structure and contents of a transLucid site in a
graphical way similar to Personal Brain. You can have a look at a demo
of JS TreeGraph at http://www.wideopenwin.com/graph/graph. Nodes and
contents are extracted from the Database that is used by the main
site. Mind you, the GUI is in alpha phase, does not show jumps and is
not yet a 'theme' that can be used in the latest version of
transLucid, but we are working on it!
PS: IE/Mac is not supported.

bjoern_schliebitz wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Ease of installation has improved dramatically since we added the
> ability to install transLucid without a MySQL database. Now, the only
> issue we are discovering can be file-permissions although that can be
> easily remedied (see also http://www.pantha.net/documentation/
> <http://www.pantha.net/documentation/> ). Feel
> free to contact me directly for assistance if needed be, we are happy
> of each and ever user joining the tL community.
>










/Well, this bit from the README file could well stop some people in
their tracks:

/1) on your local machine, extract all the files into a directory *that your
webserver has full access rights (770 or 775) to*

/(how many people know what this means or where and how to determine or
modify it?)/

and then visit
*localhost://directory/to/translucid/* and follow the install instructions
(see below for more details).

/(how many people know what they are supposed to substitute for this path?)/

2) on your hosted website, extract all the files into a directory on your
computer and upload them with any FTP software to your website* in afolder
that has the following permissions: 770 OR 775.

*/(how about a bit of info on how to determine and set permissions for
people who are using Dreamweaver, for example, to upload?)/*


*Then visit
http://www.yourdomain.com/directory/to/translucid/ and follow the install
instructions (see below for more details).

2. Installing transLucid
------------------------------------------------------
a) New installation
Before starting the install, Please write down the user/password for admin
and editing (if you choose restricted), you'll have to enter these
infomation on the 1st page of the installation.
*Please write down the a) address to your MySQL database host

*/(this seems at odds with the statement that MySQL databases are not
necessary./*


*(often :
localhost), b) username/ password used to access that database c) the name
of the database you will use for you translucid site. You will have to type
this in on the 2nd page of the installation process.





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Hi Chris,

Ease of installation has improved dramatically since we added the
ability to install transLucid without a MySQL database. Now, the only
issue we are discovering can be file-permissions although that can be
easily remedied (see also http://www.pantha.net/documentation/ ). Feel
free to contact me directly for assistance if needed be, we are happy
of each and ever user joining the tL community.

Certainly, the easiest way to install transLucid will be via our
hosted service under www.translucidonline.com . We've been busy for
the last weeks getting designs and development going for it (which I
hope will explain our unusual silence).

The Fantastico automatic installations sound really good even though I
have not tried to go through any setup pipeline myself yet with it. If
we could only be included... :) As they are installing with admin
access to the machine, I am sure that file-permission issues would be
a thing of the past.

Best,
Bjoern

--- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, Chris Case <chris@...> wrote:
>
> I've not yet installed a working version of TransLucid, mainly because
> as my webhosting package has expired, I have been shopping around for a
> webhosting service to replace 1and1.com,  whom I did not find very
> satisfactory.  Getting support responses from them was a lot like
trying
> to get an answer from Yahoo or Microsoft.
>
> Now I'm opting for HostGator, which I note has a wide variety of
scripts
> available for installing all manner of applications.  See:
> http://netenberg.com/fantastico_scripts.php
>
> Wouldn't it be possible to create a script for installing
TransLucid?  I
> must say that I did not enjoy struggling to install TL the last time I
> tried.....perhaps with my new hosting service it will be easier,  but
> given that all sorts of complex packages such as Zen-Cart can be
> installed with a few clicks, it would seem essential to be as easy for
> the amateur as possible...
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________
> CASE by CASE: http://chriscase.net
> __________________________________
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I've not yet installed a working version of TransLucid, mainly because
as my webhosting package has expired, I have been shopping around for a
webhosting service to replace 1and1.com,  whom I did not find very
satisfactory.  Getting support responses from them was a lot like trying
to get an answer from Yahoo or Microsoft.

Now I'm opting for HostGator, which I note has a wide variety of scripts
available for installing all manner of applications.  See:
http://netenberg.com/fantastico_scripts.php

Wouldn't it be possible to create a script for installing TransLucid?  I
must say that I did not enjoy struggling to install TL the last time I
tried.....perhaps with my new hosting service it will be easier,  but
given that all sorts of complex packages such as Zen-Cart can be
installed with a few clicks, it would seem essential to be as easy for
the amateur as possible...

Chris



--
__________________________________
CASE by CASE: http://chriscase.net
__________________________________



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Good to hear!

If the site is available from the web, send us the URL and we'll add
it to the websites using transLucid.

All the Best,
Bjoern

--- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, "traill5185" <traill5185@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for offering - just discovered why - I missed this:
>
> Set permissions: Ensure that the sub-directory userdata/ and all its
> sub-directories (userdata/ exchange, userdata/themes_compile, etc.),
> except for userdata/themes/, have their read & write permissions set
> to 775 or 777.
>
> It wasn't very happy with 775 actually, but with permissions to
> those folders as 777 it works great. Thank you!
>
> T.
>
>
> --- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, "Agnes Ponthus" <agnessp@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Trail,
> >
> > Let me try to understand better your environment first. Which
> version of PHP is installed on your webserver?
> >
> > It is not installed on your local machine, right?
> >
> > Agnes
> >
> > On 12/14/06, traill5185 <traill5185@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there everyone
> > > I've uploaded all the content via FTP into a folder
> > > called "translucid" on my webspace, but when I go to
> > > www.mysitesname.com/translucid/index.php
> > >
> > > my browser thinks for a second then displays the white "Page
> cannot be
> > > displayed" page. The about.html file works ok, but not the
> index.php
> > > or testrunner.php from the main folder where I uploaded
> everything...
> > > so I cannot install! I have set the permissions to 755 for
> absolutely
> > > everything I uploaded.....
> > >
> > > If anyone has any suggestions I'd be so grateful.
> > > Many thanks!
> > > traill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Agnes@
> > -----------------CONTACT-------------------
> > Skype ID: aschliebitzponthus
> > Business Email: agnes@
> > -----------------WEB------------------------
> > Business: Http://theandb.biz
> > Private: Http://theandb.com
> > -----------------PHONE--------------------
> > Home: +61 2 9944 6663
> > Mobile:  +61 423  275 399
> > Fax: +61 2 8221 9607
> > -------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Thanks for offering - just discovered why - I missed this:

Set permissions: Ensure that the sub-directory userdata/ and all its
sub-directories (userdata/ exchange, userdata/themes_compile, etc.),
except for userdata/themes/, have their read & write permissions set
to 775 or 777.

It wasn't very happy with 775 actually, but with permissions to
those folders as 777 it works great. Thank you!

T.


--- In translucid@yahoogroups.com, "Agnes Ponthus" <agnessp@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Trail,
>
> Let me try to understand better your environment first. Which
version of PHP is installed on your webserver?
>
> It is not installed on your local machine, right?
>
> Agnes
>
> On 12/14/06, traill5185 <traill5185@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there everyone
> > I've uploaded all the content via FTP into a folder
> > called "translucid" on my webspace, but when I go to
> > www.mysitesname.com/translucid/index.php
> >
> > my browser thinks for a second then displays the white "Page
cannot be
> > displayed" page. The about.html file works ok, but not the
index.php
> > or testrunner.php from the main folder where I uploaded
everything...
> > so I cannot install! I have set the permissions to 755 for
absolutely
> > everything I uploaded.....
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions I'd be so grateful.
> > Many thanks!
> > traill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Agnes@...
> -----------------CONTACT-------------------
> Skype ID: aschliebitzponthus
> Business Email: agnes@...
> -----------------WEB------------------------
> Business: Http://theandb.biz
> Private: Http://theandb.com
> -----------------PHONE--------------------
> Home: +61 2 9944 6663
> Mobile:  +61 423  275 399
> Fax: +61 2 8221 9607
> -------------------------------------------------
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>