Support-Server ??? I didnt know that it exist. How can i access it ???
Andy

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Oliver Simmert [SMTP:oliver@...]
> Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 19. August 1999 10:48
> An: trimedia@onelist.com
> Betreff: Re: [trimedia] Trimedia Libraries
>
> From: Oliver Simmert <oliver@...>
>
> laurent.lebourhis@... wrote:
> >
> > From: laurent.lebourhis@...
> >
> > Hello !
> >
> > I am currently beginning to work with the Trimedia reference board.
> > The project deals with audio processing and 3-D auralisation. The main
> algorithm is based
> > on FFTs. The problem is that we don't have an optimized version of an
> FFT.
> > Has anybody some code to share ? I really hope there is still some free
> things on earth !
> > In the case I am being too naive, could you please indicate me some
> "affordable" retailers.
>
> Look at the book BK2D (nice name) from Philips. Chapter 12, Page 12-6.
> You will find that book among others in the folder SDE_2.0_Final on the
> support FTP server.
>
> Oliver
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laurent.lebourhis@... wrote:
>
> From: laurent.lebourhis@...
>
> Hello !
>
> I am currently beginning to work with the Trimedia reference board.
> The project deals with audio processing and 3-D auralisation. The main
algorithm is based
> on FFTs. The problem is that we don't have an optimized version of an FFT.
> Has anybody some code to share ? I really hope there is still some free things
on earth !
> In the case I am being too naive, could you please indicate me some
"affordable" retailers.

Look at the book BK2D (nice name) from Philips. Chapter 12, Page 12-6.
You will find that book among others in the folder SDE_2.0_Final on the
support FTP server.

Oliver

Hello !

I am currently beginning to work with the Trimedia reference board.
The project deals with audio processing and 3-D auralisation. The main algorithm
is based
on FFTs. The problem is that we don't have an optimized version of an FFT.
Has anybody some code to share ? I really hope there is still some free things
on earth !
In the case I am being too naive, could you please indicate me some "affordable"
retailers.

Regards and happy development !
Laurent Le Bourhis


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Phd Student
EPFL - DE - LSI
Lausanne - Switzerland
http://lsiwww.epfl.ch
+41 21 693 69 79
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Sylvain Gagnon wrote:
>
> From: "Sylvain Gagnon" <sgagnon@...>
>
> Hi,
>
> I wonder if you were able to get some samples of TM1300. I keep asking
> Philips for it but I get no answer!

We have not tried it until now because our boards are based on TM1000/1100.
We may do a redesign next year but may be we will wait for the 2700.

Oliver

Hi,

I wonder if you were able to get some samples of TM1300. I keep asking
Philips for it but I get no answer!

Best regards,
Sylvain Gagnon ing. stag.
System Design
Comlink Group inc.
Tel.: (450) 686-9000 ext. 424
Fax.: (450) 686-0198
E-mail: sgagnon@...

Hi,

     I need the stuff...

bye,
T.Vinod


Chris Bore wrote:

> From: "Chris Bore" <chris@...>
>
> The TriMedia TM-1300 preliminary data sheet is now available.
>
> If anyone wants a copy, please let me know and I will send it.
>
> Use private email to me: chris@... to avoid blasting everyone on this
> list with the requests.
>
> I also have a preliminary data book, which is a 27 page addendum to the
> TM-1100 data book.
>
> The TM-1300 is only out in samples at present, and so I would not advise
> anyone to hold their breath just yet.
>
> Chris
> --------------------------------------------------------------
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> BORES Signal Processing
> chris@...
> http://www.bores.com
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that lights up the soul.

The TriMedia TM-1300 preliminary data sheet is now available.

If anyone wants a copy, please let me know and I will send it.

Use private email to me: chris@... to avoid blasting everyone on this
list with the requests.

I also have a preliminary data book, which is a 27 page addendum to the
TM-1100 data book.

The TM-1300 is only out in samples at present, and so I would not advise
anyone to hold their breath just yet.

Chris
--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com
NetMeeting (video): conference@...

Hi,
I really need a complete data sheet for TM-1300 because we want to base our
design on it. On the
Philips web site there is only a marketing brochure but they say that
samples are now available!
There surely is a data sheet available too. Does anyone of you know where a
could get a copy
of this data sheet (or data book)?

Thank you very much,
Sylvain Gagnon ing. stag.
System Design
Comlink Group inc.
Tel.: (450) 686-9000 ext. 424
Fax.: (450) 686-0198
E-mail: sgagnon@...

Does anyone have timings for FFT sizes on the TriMedia, please?

Thanks
--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com
NetMeeting (video): conference@...

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sylvain Gagnon <sgagnon@...>
>To: 'TriMedia users' <trimedia@...>
>Date: 30 June 1999 20:05
>Subject: TM1300
>
>
>>Hi,
>> I wonder if one of you could send me the data sheet of the TM1300.

I will send this by private email (to avoid everyone on the list receiving
it).

If anyone else wants a copy, please let me know.

>>I would
>>also like to know if there are some libraries available such as H.263 and
>>G.729.

I think Irlam Instruments (jim@... ) have ported an H.263 codec to
the TriMedia.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com
NetMeeting (video): conference@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Sylvain Gagnon <sgagnon@...>
To: 'TriMedia users' <trimedia@...>
Date: 30 June 1999 20:05
Subject: TM1300


>Hi,
> I wonder if one of you could send me the data sheet of the TM1300. I would
>also like to know if there are some libraries available such as H.263 and
>G.729.
>
>Best regards,
>----------------------------------------------
>Sylvain Gagnon, ing. stag.
>Firmware Development
>
>Comlink Group inc.
>440-1800, Berlier St.
>Laval (Quebec)
>Canada H7L 4S4
>Tel : (450) 686-9000
>Fax : (450) 686-0198
>Email : Sgagnon@...
>

This message is being sent to subscribers to the TriMedia mailing list.

BORES Signal Processing are presenting a half day session on 'Introduction
to the TriMedia' on Tuesday 22nd June. This is designed as a basic
introduction for people who wish to know about the TriMedia and how it might
be used in their own applications - it is _not_ a programming course.

You may either know people who might benefit from attending, or possibly
wish for us to make known something your company can offer. In either case
please let me know - you can email me direct (and avoid splatting all other
subscribers with individual details) at: chris@...

Details of the presentation are at:

     http://www.bores.com/tmday.htm

Thanks,
--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Talarico <ttalarico@...>
To: trimedia@... <trimedia@...>
Date: 28 April 1999 00:27
Subject: internet access from trimedia chip


>Hello,
>
>Hope you can help. We are new to the world of TM1100, and our wondering how
>and what is available for getting high speed internet connections to a
board
>that has a philips TM1100 on it.
>
>Any Information will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>

There were some questions at the recent TriMedia training session over the
future 'roadmap' for TriMedia. I hope to be posting more detailed
information to our web site next week (section
http://www.bores.com/tech/trimedia/index.htm) but in brief here is an
update:

     TM1300 is being debugged now and expected in production late 1999
     This is essentially a faster version of TM1100 - 166/180 MHz
     It is in a ball grid package - BGA288+35

     A shrunk version of TM1300 is being discussed (this would increase
speed)

     A 64 bit version is in development, aiming for production in 2000

     Other groups in Philips are developing related products for specific
markets
     For example the TM2700 targets digital TV
--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com

Hello Desmond.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Desmond So <desmond.so@...>
>To: trimedia@... <trimedia@...>
>Date: 22 April 1999 07:30
>Subject: Correct file format for UVEPROM(in stand-alone boot mode)
>
>I am currently using a TM1000 board running in stand alone mode. I am
trying
>to generate from a .c file (the "L2" program) to a correct file format in
>order to load into a UVEPROM and eventually be running on the SDRAM but I'm
>not too sure as to whether I'm on the right track. I hence have a few
>questions and hope that someone can enlighten me.
>
>I have been trying to compile and link using the following command line but
>with not much success in creating an image file (modified from "Philips
>Trimedia SDE Ref 1 - Program Development Tools- page 2-67.)     tmcc -B
>xyz.c -tmld -mi -load 0,0x800000 -mmio_base 0xefe00000 -tm_freq 1000000 --

I think you need to add the -exec and -start switches.

-exec creates a file having no unresolved symbols - that is, it sets the
default object type to 'boot'

-start is required by objects of type 'boot' - it tells where to start
execution

The makefile in directory examples/autoboot/l1 provides an example for
loading L2- the section 'L2_MIFLAGS' is the relevant one.

Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Desmond So <desmond.so@...>
To: trimedia@... <trimedia@...>
Date: 22 April 1999 07:30
Subject: Correct file format for UVEPROM(in stand-alone boot mode)


Hello there,

I am currently using a TM1000 board running in stand alone mode. I am trying
to generate from a .c file (the "L2" program) to a correct file format in
order to load into a UVEPROM and eventually be running on the SDRAM but I'm
not too sure as to whether I'm on the right track. I hence have a few
questions and hope that someone can enlighten me.

I have been trying to compile and link using the following command line but
with not much success in creating an image file (modified from "Philips
Trimedia SDE Ref 1 - Program Development Tools- page 2-67.)     tmcc -B
xyz.c -tmld -mi -load 0,0x800000 -mmio_base 0xefe00000 -tm_freq 1000000 --

I wonder if you can give me some suggestions. Perhaps there is a missing
switch that I need.

Many thanks in Advance.

Desmond. 22-4-99.

Free places at TriMedia training course

We have two spare places at the two day 'TriMedia' training course next week
(Tuesday 20th and Wednesday 21st April 1999). The course is held at our
office in Woking, Surrey, England.

If anyone is interested to attend, we might be able to offer a place free of
charge. Please contact me by phone (+44) (0)1483 740138 or on email:
chris@... for details.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com

SAS has developed the ADSL / Glite technology using Philips
TriMedia as the reference platform. The complete code has been developed
in C language and SAS has developed the complete reference design
including full hardware and software. The operating system under which
this has been implemented is pSOS. This is an excellent platform to
develop additional applications by adding hardware elements to the base
reference design and integrating software elements using API's that have
been provided for integrating the software application to the base
platform. Utilizing the balance computational capacity of Philips
TriMedia (after implementing the Glite / ADSL)  to develop an end
product in this manner is a very cost effective means to develop
products such as  ADSL / Glite to ethernet, Home PNA, Power Line
Networking routers and ADSL / Glite Web Appliances, etc. SAS can license
the complete ADSL Glite technology for facilitating the development of
such applications / products.
         Please refer to our web site to get some more information about
our company and products. Please contact me if you have any queries
regarding the above.
         Regards
Deepak Gupta
VP PC Communications Products
Silicon Automation Systems Ltd.
4,Corporation Division #67, HAL III Stage
Jeevan Bhima Nagar, Bangalore 560075
India
91-80-5281461,5281229 ext.4029
fax 91-80-5276126,5284396,5276125
http://www.sasi.com
deepag@...

Hi,

we currently develop a new generation of MPEG-2 CCTV recorder.

We need some more developers in our team.

FAST media integrations AG

Beat Meier

http://www.fastpoint.ch

Several questions,

1. The tmprof function works in the simulator mode however, we really need to
generate the profiles in the host/target configuration.  I had it working the
the exVdecMpeg2 but I had to reduce the optimaization level from O3 to O2.  I
have been unsucccesful in getting TMAPI (Host/Target) interface to work
2. Is it possible to make the simultor work in this environment.  I tried this
with the dmatest fuction and was unsucessful.  Does anyone know if thei is
possible
3. Is it possible to run the debugger in the host/target interface?  I have
tried with the TMAPI program and have no had any success

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: rlt@... <rlt@...>
To: trimedia@onelist.com <trimedia@onelist.com>
Date: 22 March 1999 15:58
Subject: [trimedia] tmprof function


>From: rlt@...
>
>Has anyone used the tmprof function.  I am trying to use this tool with the
TMAPI >code in the trimedia/examples/misc/tmapi directory.  I am using
the -ptm option >but a MON.OUT file is not being generated.  Any suggestions

tmprof works OK when using the simulator to generate the statistics. A
simple example uses the 'fir1.c' program in examples\tcs directory. The
following commands illustrate:

     tmcc -p fir1.c -o fir1
     tmsim -statfile fir1.stat fir1
     tmprof fir1.stat

I have only used tmprof in this way: but when I used the -ptm option:

     tmcc -ptm fir1.c

as in your case, this did not generate the expected 'mon.out' file with
profiling information. I don't know why this is so, but will check.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com

Has anyone used the tmprof function.  I am trying to use this tool with the
TMAPI code in the trimedia/examples/misc/tmapi directory.  I am using the -ptm
option but a MON.OUT file is not being generated.  Any suggestions

Thanks

A user asked what are the differences between the TM1000 and the TM1100.
Here is a comparison between the features of the TM1000, TM1100 and TM1300:

                             TM1000           TM1100         TM1300
Clock (MHz)         100                 120                 166-180
Bus width             32 b                 32 b             32 b
MIPS                     500                 600                 830-900
Voltage                 3.3                 3.3                 2.5/ 3.3
Power (Typ)             4                 5.4                 3.5
MIPS/ watt         125                 110                 237- 257
MIPS/ ($)             8.3                 11.1             16.6- 18
Price (10K)         $ 60             $ 54                 $ 50
Host Bus         PCI                 PCI/68K         PC/68K
Memory         16Mb                 16- 64Mb         16- 64Mb
Package         QFP240         QFP240             BGA288+35
Others         Video I/O             DVD                 4 Audio Out
                     Audio I/O                                 SPDIF
                     SSI

I will post a note to our web site at:

     http://www.bores.com/tech/trimedia/tmcomp.htm

and update this as necessary.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com

A user recently noted that the public domain 'make' utility provided on our
web site:

     http://www.bores.com/tech/trimedia/tmmake.htm

gives a message: 'no targets near...' when used with certain text make
files.

This is due to the files not using a UNIX convention for the end of line
character. Windows notepad does not format correctly - WordPad does, but
insists on adding a .txt extension so that the make file then has to be
renamed.

The excellent (and free) public domain 'Programmer's File Editor' creates
text files with the required UNIX line separator to work with the 'make'
utility. It also happens to be a very useful program editor, with many
features designed speciaifcally to help editing of program files (rather
than plain old text files). You can download it free from the Lancaster
University web site at:

     http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/

--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com

Philips have changed the specification of the TM1100 - this means the
TM1X-JTAG boards now need a small modification to work properly with the
TM1100. The change is straightforward (removing a capacitor) but should be
done with proper antistatic precautions.

A note and circuit diagram are available detailing the required changes -
send email to me direct- chris@... - if you would like me to send
these.

This change affects only the JTAG boards - not the IREF board provided with
the TriMedia Development Kit.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com

To: trimedia@onelist.com <trimedia@onelist.com>
Date: 16 March 1999 15:04
Subject: [trimedia] Makefiles
>I have tried to compile a very simple program (cfr. hello.c in the SDE
cookbook)
>using the public domain make utility you provide on your web site.
>Unfortunately, I can't make it work, I keep getting following error:
>
> make: No targets provided near line 6

The problem seems to be related to the way the make file is formatted. I
write these files using Microsoft Visual C++ editor, or WordPad - they then
work fine. But when I entered your make file using DOS 'edit.com', I found
the same behaviour as you mentioned. I suspect line separators may not be
the same in both cases. I will send a copy of the make file which works (and
looks to me exactly like yours) by private email.

Chris Bore
------------------------------
>
>The make file looks like this
>
>1 CC=tmcc or CC=$(TCS)/bin/tmcc
>2 CFLAGS=-host Win95
>3
>4
>5 hello.out:      hello.o
>6               $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -o $@  hello.o
>7
>8 hello.o:        hello.c
>9               $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c -o $@ hello.c
>
>Can someone help me on this?  Thank you!
>
>Best regards,
>
>Reinout Verburgh
>
>
>
>
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Hello,

I have tried to compile a very simple program (cfr. hello.c in the SDE cookbook)
using the public domain make utility you provide on your web site.
Unfortunately, I can't make it work, I keep getting following error:

  make: No targets provided near line 6

The make file looks like this

1 CC=tmcc or CC=$(TCS)/bin/tmcc
2 CFLAGS=-host Win95
3
4
5 hello.out:      hello.o
6               $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -o $@  hello.o
7
8 hello.o:        hello.c
9               $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c -o $@ hello.c

Can someone help me on this?  Thank you!

Best regards,

Reinout Verburgh

-----Original Message-----
To: TriMedia mailing list <trimedia@onelist.com>
Date: 15 March 1999 11:49
Subject: [trimedia] Fw: make files?

>We installed the SDE together with the example files.
>
>Each example is provided with a makefile (for Unix).
>Since we would like to compile on a Windows 95 host and don't have the
nmake
>utility, we converted some of the makefiles in a batchfile.  This works
fine
>on most of the examples but not on all of them.
>
>Can someone provide me some kind of generic batchfile to compile, or do you
>advise us to buy the nmake utility anyway?

I think nmake.exe is a Microsoft utility - part of Visual C++. It needs some
other files (such as nmake.386) to be installed before it will work, and you
have to edit the make files provided with the SDE because their slash
convention is UNIX like ('/') instead of DOS like ('\').

I have posted a public domain UNIX like make utility for DOS to our web
site:

     http://www.bores.com/tech/trimedia/tmmake.htm

To use nmake, edit the make files so all the directory separator slashes are
backwards ('\') instead of forwards ('/').

Your problem with the examples may be that the command lines are too long,
if you are using Windows 95 which only accepts 128 characters per line. For
example the makefile for 'avio.c' (in 'examples\peripherals' directory)
produces a command line on my system that is longer than 28 characters. This
is irritating and I have not yet found a good solution - but there are some
things you can do to improve matters:

1) set the PATH to include the TriMedia executable and include directories
2) omit full directory names in the command line where possible

For example the batch file command for the 'avio.c' program can be shortened
to the following:

tmcc -IWin95 -host Win95 -Id:\TriMedia\examples\help
d:\TriMedia\examples\help\el\tmHelp.o -o avio.out avio.c -ldev_g

which just about fits.

You might also try using the 'tmconfig' file - this sets defaults for
various command line options and can be used to shorten the command line.
The generic 'tmconfig' file is in directory $TCS, but you can specify a
specific file using the command line option: -tmconfig=<filename>


Chris Bore
--------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Bore
BORES Signal Processing
chris@...
http://www.bores.com

Hello,

We installed the SDE together with the example files.

Each example is provided with a makefile (for Unix).
Since we would like to compile on a Windows 95 host and don't have the nmake
utility, we converted some of the makefiles in a batchfile.  This works fine
on
most of the examples but not on all of them.

Can someone provide me some kind of generic batchfile to compile, or do you
advise us to buy the nmake utility anyway?

Thank you in advance!

Kind regards,

Reinout Verburgh
Philips Brugge
Belgium

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Irlam <Jim@...>
To: trimedia@... <trimedia@...>
Date: 11 March 1999 12:16
Subject: Image compression performance


>I'm interested in comparing typical performance figures
>(image size, frame rate and bit rate) that other users have
>achieved using DCT based compression techniques like JPEG.
>
>We've written a 384 x 288 x 25Hz JPEG CODEC without too much
>trouble.  Making it work full-size at 50Hz on a single chip
>looks hard!
>
>--
>Jim Irlam
>