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Xbox console ban is 'permanent' - Don't use pirated discs   Message List  
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Re: [ttcs] Xbox console ban is 'permanent' - Don't use pirated discs

LOL!

Perhaps I'm the only person on this list that brings up the argument,
but I'm certainly not alone, nor am I in some decided minority
internationally.
World Intellectual Property laws are at a crossorads. You also have
only to look at the plethora of responses on larger message forums as
well to see
where the debate is headed.

Do you think that if this was such a non-issue as you profess that it
would continuously make the top news of Technology sites such as
Slashdot, and Blogs such as Engadget?
It is specifically because it is of great interest to the public at
large, and because there are valid views on it that it remains
uppermost in the collective consciousness of consumers.

Copyright laws,DRM included, have the potential to dismantle the
internet today as we know it, and to destroy the free flow of
information and the rapid growth and development which we have become
used to.

Witness the admission and the softening of the stance of the WIPO, the
unanimous response of citizens in Canada to altering their copyright
laws a few years ago,
and several other similar movements worldwide.

I mentioned Linux because the same arguments, or lack thereof were
argued against DeCSS, and most of the readers of this list are biased
toward the Operating System. So I thought that mentioning it may
revive some dormant memory of when DeCSS was news, and hopefully
encourage some synaptic spark on the issue, if only by reflex.

ntellectual Property rights and Copyright laws have shifted to the
extreme of the Corporations, and away from providing benefits to the
consumer.
That isn't an argument, it is fact.

The rights of the Consumer are being eroded not by directly attacking
fair use, but by using legislation and technology to sidestep it.

Ahh...but I forget where I am.
You are correct. This is all about freeness.
Mea culpa.

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/keeping-global-eye-copyright-law

;-P

2009/11/14 Peter Wimbourne <sysop@...>
> Richard,
>
> Clearly you are being tongue-in-cheek! This is such a tired argument
> that has been presented over and over on this list and rejected and
> finally ignored by more and more people. Hopefully it will eventually be
> reduced to the single poster and no replies in the near future.
>
> The bottom line is the argument mirrors our sad society; 'if I cyar buy
> dem jimboots, I go raff dem'
>
> where's my jasmine tea?
>
> - peter



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Richard, Clearly you are being tongue-in-cheek! This is such a tired argument that has been presented over and over on this list and rejected and finally...
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LOL! Perhaps I'm the only person on this list that brings up the argument, but I'm certainly not alone, nor am I in some decided minority internationally. ...
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Nov 14, 2009
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... Well, I _was_ a little surprised that Tariq agreed with him. :) And I can't really get worked up over games. Never had any time for games. Some people seem...
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I DID say it . Not that I could actually DO it though. "Maybe Linux User Groups over the world could get together and make a competitive gaming console to...
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Nov 14, 2009
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So the argument is that you want the best of both worlds: A modded XBOX for "Media Extender & other functionality" and access to XBOX live even though MS has...
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Nov 15, 2009
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Not entirely true - I think you can buy the iPhone unlocked and without a contract in France, Australia and, I was told Canada. If the unit was purchased with...
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Canadian iPhones are actually locked. However there are two providers (soon to be four) unlike just AT&T in the States. 2009/11/13 Michael Tikasingh...
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Nov 14, 2009
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Did you buy it locally or get it online/abroad?...
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Local. First gen. :P ... From: ttcs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ttcs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allan Samaroo Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:39 PM To:...
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Buy a PC with Windows. Do all the above, and MS is still happy....
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I'm sure MS has and continues to reserve their rights to do the same with Windows. Cin...
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Remember, this wasn't always so with the X-box, they waited for the opportune time to do it. Who knows what code lies in a SP or update if you using pirated...
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Heh. And not really. I hear that as of yet there are no MS remedies for some of the BIOS-fooling programme registration cracks that were used with Vista. I...
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That's a very poor analogy. When you buy an Xbox, you sign a terms of use agreement. A better analogy would be leasing a car and subsequently violating the...
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This is a tangent on the conversation but, as a coworker likes to say, "revenue != profit". In FY08 (which ended March 31 of this year), Sony's Operating...
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Point well taken, but as long as net income exceeds losses, I expect that they will stay afloat. /mike ... Point well taken, but as long as net income exceeds...
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... It doesn't though. Profit (Net Income) = Revenue - Expenses. Their Revenue in FY08 was $78b. Their Profit was -$2b. Therefore their Expenses were about...
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Apple does not have zero debt. It's also inaccurate to compare like that given the nature of their operations. Sony's consolidated debt to equity ratio is...
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