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torsion

Torsion describes a condition wherein an independent set of n unison vectors
(<uvector.htm>) fails to define a periodicity block of dimension n, because of
the existence of torsion elements, meaning intervals which are not products of
the proposed set of unison vectors, but some power of which are.

Torsion may be tested by forming the n by n+1 matrix whose rows correspond to
the unison vectors, and calculating the
gcd(<http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GreatestCommonDivisor.html>) of the minors
(<http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Minor.html>)
of the matrix. If the rows are linearly independent but the gcd is not one, we
have torsion.

The term comes from mathematical usage, see
<http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TorsionGroup.html>.





Wed Jan 23, 2002 10:11 pm

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torsion Torsion describes a condition wherein an independent set of n unison vectors (<uvector.htm>) fails to define a periodicity block of dimension n,...
genewardsmith Offline Send Email Jan 23, 2002
10:11 pm

... unison vectors (<uvector.htm>) fails to define a periodicity block of dimension n, because of the existence of torsion elements, meaning intervals which...
paulerlich Offline Send Email Jan 23, 2002
10:33 pm

... You could say "group generated by the unison vectors", but I thought I made it clear with "set" that I was talking about a basis for the kernel, not the...
genewardsmith Offline Send Email Jan 23, 2002
10:51 pm

... vectors" ... Well then your definition doesn't seem to work, because if the basis is the diesis and the schisma, the syntonic comma squared is in the ...
paulerlich Offline Send Email Jan 23, 2002
11:00 pm

... That's why I said "not products of the proposed set of unison vectors" instead of "not members of the proposed set of unision vectors"....
genewardsmith Offline Send Email Jan 23, 2002
11:07 pm

... basis ... the ... Oops! I read it wrong, somehow. But "products" might still fail to capture a case like a^2/b where a and b are in the basis. Can't we ...
paulerlich Offline Send Email Jan 24, 2002
12:05 am

... No agreement has been reached on what peridicity block means, so this could also read "defines an anomalous periodicity block". Properties which might or...
genewardsmith Offline Send Email Jan 23, 2002
11:04 pm

... unison vectors (<uvector.htm>) fails to define a periodicity block of dimension n... ... this could also read "defines an anomalous periodicity block". ...
paulerlich Offline Send Email Jan 24, 2002
12:04 am

Hi Gene, Two things. 1) I love your new definition of "torsion". What exactly should I replace in my old definition? Everything? Please be as specific as...
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Jan 25, 2002
6:30 pm

torsion Torsion describes a condition wherein an independent set of n unison vectors {u1, u2, ..., un} (<uvector.htm>) defines a non-epimophic...
genewardsmith Offline Send Email Jan 25, 2002
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Hi Gene, > From: genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...> > To: <tuning-math@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:46 AM > Subject:...
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Jan 26, 2002
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... I wanted an example, and I cooked this one up, that's all. The only advantage of it I can see is that it uses simpler commas....
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Hey Gene, > From: genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...> > To: <tuning-math@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 8:04 PM > Subject:...
monz
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... What happened to the really nice definition Gene gave?????????????? This should be _at the top_, rather than omitted entirely!!!!!!!!!!!...
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Hi Gene, > From: monz <joemonz@...> > To: <tuning-math@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [tuning-math] Re:...
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... (revised) ... gave?????????????? ... entirely!!!!!!!!!!! ... Who is going to understand that definition? You, Monz? I meant the definition in ...
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... Yes -- try the 24-tone {diesis, schisma} case. ... No -- it depends which UVs you use to construct the parellelepiped. For example, you could restate your...
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