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25/24, 49/48, 50/49   Message List  
Reply Message #5136 of 20696 |
Re: 25/24, 49/48, 50/49

--- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith
<genewardsmith@j...>" <genewardsmith@j...> wrote:
> --- In tuning-math@yahoogroups.com, "Kalle Aho
<kalleaho@m...>" <kalleaho@m...> wrote:
>
> > How is complexity calculated and why?
>
> I calculated complexity using a rather complicated formula, but
>Paul tells me that Graham complexity would have been better;

actually the representation of the chromatic unison vector comes
into it too.

>evidentally you are interested only in complete tetrads. It is
easy >to compute: take the range in generator steps of the
>representations of
> {1,3,5,7,5/3,7/3,7/5} and multiply by the number of periods in an
>octave.

that's graham's complexity. but you still haven't calculated the
number of complete tetrads.

to do that, you also need to calculate the number of notes in the
scale. first calculate the cardinality per period, by determining
(from the mapping) the number of generators comprising a
49:48 if 25:24 is tempered out, a 25:24 if 49:48 is tempered out,
or either (they'll be the same) if 50:49 is tempered out. then
multiply by the number of periods in an octave.

finally, the number of tetrads will be the graham complexity
minus the number of notes in the scale -- times two (since both
otonal and utonal tetrads count).




Sun Dec 8, 2002 2:15 am

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"Standard" ets for which h(25/24)=0, h(49/48)=1 7,17 h(25/24)=1 h(49/48)=0 5,9,15,19,25,29 h(50/49)=0 h(25/24)=1 2,12,16,18,22,26,32 Linear temperaments with...
Gene Ward Smith
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Dec 6, 2002
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i don't know if the usual badness measure was appropriate in this case -- see my results and then you might get a better feel for it. the first key to...
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Dec 7, 2002
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Thank you, Gene and Paul! Great job! How is complexity calculated and why? Badness is somewhere around complexity^2*rms, what's the idea behind this? I guess...
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Dec 7, 2002
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... I calculated complexity using a rather complicated formula, but Paul tells me that Graham complexity would have been better; evidentally you are interested...
Gene Ward Smith <gene...
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Dec 7, 2002
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... actually the representation of the chromatic unison vector comes into it too. ... easy >to compute: take the range in generator steps of the ... that's...
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