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12240
The 11-limit version of the breed temperament takes the same generators, a 49/40 neutral third and 10/7, and tempers them according to the {243/242, 441/440}...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jun 1, 2005
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12241
... moments ... just ... step ... two ... another size ... keep ... of the ... small ... old ... B1. ... column ... C1 and ... pseudocode ... Very nice,...
Kalle Aho
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12242
... Thanks! Here http://web.syr.edu/~rsholmes/music/xen/scale_nonlinear.html you tell us: "One thing I initially found bothersome about Erlich's scales is ...
Kalle Aho
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12243
... get ... What I would like to do, if possible, is take two commas in 7-limit space, which I believe act as planes, find their intersection, which I believe...
Paul G Hjelmstad
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Jun 1, 2005
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12244
... Your problem is that there isn't a unique solution. Finding the line you should know -- it comes down to finding the 2-D temperament. For finding the...
Graham Breed
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12245
... line ... Could you give an example? ... commas ... three ... pair, ... Thanks. How do you fill out a square matrix with only two 7-limit temperaments in...
Paul G Hjelmstad
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12246
... Here's another interesting quote from the same page: "Note carefully he is saying 22-equal gives consonant harmony but out of tune scales -- the important...
Gene Ward Smith
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12247
... 12, 19, 26, 31, 43 and 55-equal are all meantones. So if you temper out 81:80, you need some other information to determine which two equal temperaments...
Graham Breed
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12248
... I call on another black box function--Hermite reduction--in the case of finding vals, which in this instance means period and generator. However, these...
Gene Ward Smith
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12249
... The problem with the comma finding is that the initial commas had torsion, and TM reduction couldn't remove it. I suspect LLL wouldn't either, so it must...
Graham Breed
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12250
... I'm not sure what example you are talking about; I was speaking in general. However, neither LLL nor TM reduction will remove torsion; it is, however,...
Gene Ward Smith
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12251
... The ... 1 ... temperament. ... I've been real busy at work, but thanks for your response. I'll try this out tomorrow...
Paul G Hjelmstad
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12252
In 12-Et there are 35 pentachord/septachords, after reducing for direction (reversibility of necklaces) and Z-relation (There are three Z-related...
Paul G Hjelmstad
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Jun 2, 2005
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... <paul.hjelmstad@m...> wrote: Some added thoughts: Add 8 to (0,1,3,5,6) (That "strangely-Z-related impassible weakly-related seven-five set complex") and...
Paul G Hjelmstad
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Jun 2, 2005
5:36 pm
12254
... Using this method with miracle, I get the following commas: (0, 3, 4, -5), (15, 0, 2, -7), (10, -1, 0, -3), (25, -7, -6, 0) which are all genuine commas....
Graham Breed
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Jun 2, 2005
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12255
... What I do is feed it to my favorite black boxes: first hermite reduction to get the basic answer, and then LLL to clean up the result in preparation to TM...
Gene Ward Smith
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12256
http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/daniele/papers/HNFalg.html www.scg.uwaterloo.ca/~glabahn/Papers/arne2.pdf Probably implementing one of these is more work than...
Gene Ward Smith
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12257
... The ... 1 ... temperament. ... This is very interesting. I've been playing with this in Excel. What troubles me though, is the fact that I obtain different...
Paul G Hjelmstad
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Jun 2, 2005
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... Why do you think you get different temperaments? The easiest way to determine if you get the same temperament is to take the wedge product, which Excel...
Gene Ward Smith
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12259
... What ... temperaments, ... I'll have to figure out a way to do wedgies in Excel. What I have done: Using 49/49 and 15/14 as chromatic unison vectors and...
Paul G Hjelmstad
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Jun 2, 2005
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12260
Here is what I think to be an interesting marvel-tempered scale I'll call "stellar". It is formed by first taking the stellated hexany, aka the 2x2x2 chord...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jun 3, 2005
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12261
... Presumably you mean 126/125&1029/1024. These give <<9 5 -3 -13 -30 -21||, which is the valentine temperament. You don't really get things such as "17" or...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jun 3, 2005
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12262
Dear Gene divde the syntonic-comma in 4 different superparticular subfactors 81:80 = (324:323) * (323:322) * (322:321) * (321:320) 21.5062..C = 5.3848..C +...
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... 126/125&1029/1028 ... don't ... Hmm when I take the adjoint I do get <17 26 39 48| and <15 24 35 42| as vals in the first two columns (!?) ... 2 ... ...
Paul G Hjelmstad
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12264
... I've got this: def hermite(m): result = [list(row) for row in m] for i in range(len(m)-1): for j in range(i, len(m)): if result[j][i] != 0: result[i],...
Graham Breed
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12265
These are seven limit temperaments from a single comma, thus rank 3, and the ones considered here are planar in the strict sense--the octave is not divided...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jun 3, 2005
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12266
Many of Ervs papers includes an actual formula which is quite simple. if you look at page 3 of http://anaphoria.com/meantone-mavila.PDF one starts with the log...
Kraig Grady
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Jun 4, 2005
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12267
A simple yet effective way to get scales with a lot of some particular structure in them is to take the structure, dilate it by an integer factor N, and take...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jun 4, 2005
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Of the dilation scales, if we exclude chains of generators such as DE/MOS, the simplest examples will be planar--that is, the note classes can be arranged in a...
Gene Ward Smith
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12269
These are isosceles triangles in the breed plane, with b(n) = 2n^2+2n+1 notes, b(n-1) otonal tetrads, b(n-2) utonal tetrads, for a total of 4n^2-8n+6 tetrads,...
Gene Ward Smith
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