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13563
... 3386.073407461787 ] ... I'd call it a point in val space, or a mapping to the reals, or a linear functional....
Gene Ward Smith
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Dec 1, 2005
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13564
... Tx. -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
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13565
... limit ... limit vs. ... OK. ... Huh? Weighted graph length? I don't get it. What do you mean?...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
9:14 pm
13566
... the ... largest ... After the scaling. ... Wow. ... by ... close ... allow ... What exactly does that mean?...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
9:20 pm
13567
... Maybe you could suggest terminology for what I was calling diameter, and the weighted version. -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
9:30 pm
13568
... The weigthed version has also been going by "isosceles" and "Hahn distance" in this thread. -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
9:32 pm
13569
... Hold on -- you seemed to imply that you could interpret Hahn distance as weighted graph length. Did I grasp your meaning correctly? If so, how do you do...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
9:56 pm
13570
... These are distinct so I have no idea how the "weighted version" can be both. Let me repeat what you yourself acknowledged: the "Hahn distance" of 9:5 is: 1...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
9:58 pm
13571
... I meant 2, not 1, there. ... I meant 1, not 2, there. Sorry!...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
10:02 pm
13572
... Here's the code... ;; Octave-equivalent, triangular version of comma-dist. (define comma-tridist (lambda (f) (let ((over (apply + (all-vals (occurrences ...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
10:43 pm
13573
... I thought you insisted on using "Hahn distance" only for the weighted version. The algorithm given by Paul gives 9:5 as 3.9068905956085187 in either the...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
10:46 pm
13574
... distance ... so, ... I don't think that helps. I meant, how do you construct the graph, and with what weights? ... So you say. However what you're...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
10:51 pm
13575
... Obviously I'm still not using the magic words. What, Paul, would you like me to call this thing we've been talking about now for 10 years? ... Didn't we...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
10:54 pm
13576
... can ... Quite the contrary. I've been quite consistent in using for the unweighted version, as I remember Paul Hahn's ideas well. ... He may have also...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
10:57 pm
13577
... Words? ... I don't care! I don't know why this is your response when I ask you how you construct the graph! ... ratio- ... positions), ... happens in ... ...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
11:01 pm
13578
... I understood and agree, but I'm simply not clear on what your preferred terminology is. I can only guess from the above that you want the unweighted...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
11:08 pm
13579
... Though it doesn't agree with 'weighted Hahn' as I would have ever understood that term: there, the 7-limit distance is just what you say, but the 9-limit...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
11:09 pm
13580
... which ... faster, ... (2) ... Maybe I have no place butting in here, but I get 1408.7 for err(j) and 0.37159 for err. This is using Octave. Just for fun,...
Paul G Hjelmstad
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Dec 1, 2005
11:09 pm
13581
... don't ... diameter ... Sure, if we can find a graph to support it! I've been putting the 'distance' in "Hahn distance" in quotes because this isn't clear ...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
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13582
... But you do care. The reason people everywhere find communicating with you so exhausting may be that every time they want to refer to something they have...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
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13583
... for ... website. ... (11)/log ... (2)]; ... log ... The (j) part should have been deleted, as we discussed. ... Which tuning did you plug in? ... For which...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
11:17 pm
13584
... you ... Maybe so, but not now, not here. ... No, because in most people's idea of a triangular lattice, 9 will have twice the distance of 3 no matter which...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
11:18 pm
13585
... Hahn's assertion was that the odd- and prime-limit distance would be the same. When did he take this back, and what code are you using to get 3.17? ... As...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
11:23 pm
13586
... If 9 has an axis, it will have length 1. If not and 3 has an axis, it will have length 2. -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
11:24 pm
13587
... version, ... favored, ... say, ... algorithms ... What exactly do you mean by this? ... As I recall, *I* made an incorrect assertion resembing this, which ...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
11:32 pm
13588
... On the graph, there will be something you get to when you take two steps in the 3 direction. What is this something? And furthermore, even if there is a...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
11:32 pm
13589
... Whoops -- adding yields 3.90689059560852, which is the number you gave. But in the 9-limit or above, 9:5 is a consonant ratio of 9, a single step of length...
Paul Erlich
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Dec 1, 2005
11:35 pm
13590
... 9, but the distance is always the shortest one (hence, geodesic). ... The same way that 7:5 is length 1. -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
11:43 pm
13591
... That 9:5 would have a the same distance in the 7- and 9-limit. ... This compares it to expressibility. Don't see anything about its value at different...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
11:45 pm
13592
... Ah, ok, 9:5 does not have the same length in the 7- and 9-limits. That's important. So the version that accepts monzos is necessary. -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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Dec 1, 2005
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