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14222
... The tuning is part of the temperament. We want temperaments with a low error. The generator does determine the position on the scale tree, and so the...
Graham Breed
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Feb 1, 2006
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14223
I notice the previous discussion on the meaning of "unison vector" has dwindled out for the second time. We still don't agree on the meaning, or on a term to...
Graham Breed
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14224
... If you say so. But it doesn't tell you what the temperament is; is 19/72 a generator for keemun or for cataclysmic? We want temperaments with a low ... and...
Gene Ward Smith
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Feb 1, 2006
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14225
Macintosh, it seems uses 3072-edo for music. This therefore joins 768, 49152 (pitch bend) and 196608 (MIDI tuning standard) as a tuning system chosen for...
Gene Ward Smith
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Feb 2, 2006
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14226
... Please don't break up my paragraphs. ... No, but if you know what temperament it is it tells you the error. Like I said. This is a formula to predict the...
Graham Breed
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Feb 2, 2006
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14227
... That's so ridiculous. I love it. I can't believe there are names for all these things. BTW my Yamaha SY77 uses 1024-edo, which has very good fifths but ...
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14228
... That's getting into the slightly cheesy range, I think. The most salient tuning fact seems to be that the parakleismic comma, |8 -14 13>, gets tempered...
Gene Ward Smith
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Feb 2, 2006
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14229
... 1024-edo should join those as well. It was used not only on the SY-77, but on a whole slew of other Yamaha instrumnets as well. I have an entry for it in...
monz
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Feb 2, 2006
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14230
... What does 5/29 have to do with it? That's 10/58, of course, but how does that connect with a generator of 5/58? ... Indeed it is. It's 46&58 in terms of...
Gene Ward Smith
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Feb 3, 2006
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14231
... It's the generator/period ratio. ... I think the one I posted came from a pair of ETs, so that you'd get both of them to identify. Presumably 46&12 if the...
Graham Breed
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Feb 4, 2006
2:48 pm
14232
... What do you do to avoid redundancies in the final output (ie, two different meantone mappings)? -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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Feb 4, 2006
7:40 pm
14233
... Keep a dictionary indexed by a standard form of the generator mapping (including the period division). Graham...
Graham Breed
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Feb 5, 2006
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14234
... I figured that out, but what I was asking is what you did with it. ... both ... In terms of rounded vals, it's 46&58, which is the obvious way of getting...
Gene Ward Smith
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Feb 5, 2006
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14235
... I don't do anything with it. The generator and octave division are calculated in the initialization, so the generator and period can be displayed in the...
Graham Breed
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Feb 5, 2006
12:17 pm
14236
... What does that mean? ... This could be called 26&72 (rounded vals), and like the rest of this list it isn't something I am ever likely to use. The tuning...
Gene Ward Smith
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Feb 5, 2006
11:03 pm
14237
... If you can't see anything wrong with the generator, don't worry about it. ... That's a harder search. Maybe the initial badness needs to be tweaked. This...
Graham Breed
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Feb 6, 2006
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14238
... Right; that one is 121&311 rather than 94&311. Either one could be used as an entre to the mysterious world of 311, but 94&311 seems like a better place to...
Gene Ward Smith
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Feb 6, 2006
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14239
... 311 keeps coming up because it's a good equal temperament, You generally find good R2 temperaments relate to good equal temperaments. That's why a search...
Graham Breed
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14240
... <keenanpepper@g...> ... =P ... You mean sorry to *not* bother everyone else with it? I'm mystified, but maybe I'll actually *see* your question as I catch ...
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Feb 6, 2006
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14241
... isn't ... I'm glad we agree on that! But I was sure you were calling it a "unison vector" in some applications where it was anything but . . . ... lattice ...
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14242
... the ... is 3 ... the ... this ... ranks ... Do I what? ... How do I get what? ... as ... Exactly. ... Good think you want to do away with wedgies, then :) ...
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Feb 6, 2006
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14243
... at ... I'll ... unison ... commas ... You get a "null wedgie", not an equal temperament, if you wedge together linearly dependent commas. I don't see how...
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Feb 6, 2006
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14244
... still ... different ... once ... As you often do, you've snipped out too much for me to remember what this was about. Right now I have no idea in what...
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Feb 6, 2006
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14245
... results, ... from ... is ... original ... cases ... theoretical ... Pass. ... why ... bit of ... you ... weighted ... In the tuning which minimizes this...
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Feb 6, 2006
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14246
... additional ... I still don't know how you define this for a particular R2 temperament or why you'd even need to. ... much ... That's two sentences...
wallyesterpaulrus
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Feb 6, 2006
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14247
... complexity. ... between ... divided by ... Why not use the latter for all ranks?...
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Feb 6, 2006
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14248
Monz, you've run into the "classical" or "mathematical" uncertainty principle. There's absolutely no way around it, by the very definition of "frequency" and...
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14249
... They're not being compared with each other because they're on different graphs. Only on a given graph are different things being compared, not between one...
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Feb 6, 2006
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14250
... this ... Still, I don't recall this consensus you speak of. ... just ... need ... the ... Doesn't seem fundamentally different than trivial things like ...
wallyesterpaulrus
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14251
... number ... generators, ... get ... That you can? ... You must have misunderstood what I said. Repeat it and I'll try to clarify for you. There's no...
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