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16727
Hi All, I recently posted the following reply to Danny Wier's post on the Tuning List re: harmonicity rankings. My question is: Is there a tidy formula that...
Robin Perry
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Sep 5, 2007
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16728
The problem with Euler's function, and apparently with yours, is that they're based on factoring. While this comes into play when harmonies are generated from...
Carl Lumma
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Sep 5, 2007
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16729
Hi Carl, When you say you put 5/3 above 5/4, do you mean that 5/3 is more, or less consonant? As far as N*D goes: That would make a 7/5 more consonant than an...
Robin Perry
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16730
... More. Don't you think so? ... That's the classical counterexample / trouble spot with n*d. It's a hard judgement to make, and they're really pretty close ...
Carl Lumma
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Sep 5, 2007
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16731
... Dears Carl & Robin, ... 5*3 = 15 ... 5*4 = 20 ... Some people conclude from that for triads respectively: 3:4:5 = G:C:E with 3*4*5=60 would sound even...
Andreas Sparschuh
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16732
Well.. no, not really. I have been opening up Scala and listening to a lot of ratios of late. I hear 5/4 and 5/3 more or less equally consonant. And, I hear...
Robin Perry
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16733
Hi Andreas, ... I did leave out the notion of taking the log of the result, which according to Paul Erlich is the right way to scale the scores. I left this...
Carl Lumma
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7:42 pm
16734
Hi Andreas, Thank you. I appreciate the insight into this from the viewpoint of extrapolating the concepts into triads. I'm interested in focusing on diads...
Robin Perry
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Sep 5, 2007
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16735
Here's how they sound on my system: http://lumma.org/stuff/75.wav http://lumma.org/stuff/85.wav To me the sound of the first one *is* more consonant in a...
Carl Lumma
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Sep 5, 2007
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16736
In 1999, I thought Archimedean tilings might offer a nice way to look at tonespace. I came up with: http://lumma.org/stuff/4.8.8.png There's enough room here...
Carl Lumma
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Sep 5, 2007
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16737
Thanks, Carl, Interesting voicing on those... what is that? To my ear, 8/5 is more consonant. Robin ... listening ... equally ... think ... and ... an ... 8/5?...
Robin Perry
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Sep 6, 2007
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16738
Straightforward voicing... they both share a common root pitch. Same timbre, duration, and amplitude envelope. Before passing final judgement, you should also...
Carl Lumma
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Sep 6, 2007
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16739
... I agree that the 8/5 sounds more consonant than the 7/5 ... with that particular voicing. On listening closely, I notice that the shared harmonic of the...
Herman Miller
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Sep 7, 2007
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16740
Hi Carl, I have been thinking about the 5/4 and 5/3 and think that a food example is appropriate. Apricot jam and strawberry jam are equally sweet. They just...
Robin Perry
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Sep 7, 2007
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16741
... Actually glucose is substantially less sweet than cane sugar. And cane and beet sugar are both sucrose. Is that what you meant? Some advocate ranking...
Carl Lumma
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Sep 7, 2007
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16742
Hi, No.. I had a feeling that that comparison might not work out.. Sweetness (most to least): 2/1,3/2,4/3 Thanks, Robin ... equally ... train ... 4/3...
Robin Perry
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Sep 7, 2007
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16743
... I think a 2/1 is really pretty flavorless; at least not a sweet sort of flavor. Sweet would be a pretty good word to describe the 5-colored intervals,...
Herman Miller
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Sep 8, 2007
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16744
... Agree. -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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Sep 8, 2007
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16745
Hi Herman, Good suggestions. There are what, six categories of taste? Sweet, sour, bitter, salty, hot (spicy), and savory (umami)are the ones that come to...
Robin Perry
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Sep 8, 2007
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16746
... Simply by playing an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_horn you can taste the flavour of the: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_%28music%29 ...
Andreas Sparschuh
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Sep 8, 2007
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16747
I've mentioned scalar complexity here before but it still isn't in my errors and complexities PDF. One definition is that it's the size of the wedge product...
Graham Breed
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Sep 9, 2007
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16748
... That sounds like what Paul uses in Middle Path. ... Huh. ... Wow. -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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Sep 9, 2007
3:24 pm
16749
... According to my PDF, he used the sum-abs of the weighted wedgie. That's proportional to the Tenney harmonic distance of a single unison vector, and...
Graham Breed
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Sep 10, 2007
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16750
One more thing on this: the formula I was using before is actually a special case for the rank 2 case. The correct one is sqrt(det(MTM)/n**r) where sqrt is...
Graham Breed
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Sep 11, 2007
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16751
Here's the simplification you're after. First a recap. The Perry harmonic complexity or Perry complexity (PC) of a ratio n/d was defined by Robin Perry as the...
Dave Keenan
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Sep 11, 2007
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16752
Thank you very much, Dave. That is simple, elegant, brilliant. I'm still looking at patterns in the process to refine the definition for primes higher than...
Robin Perry
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Sep 12, 2007
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16753
... Dear Robin, try out: http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A002837 http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Prime-GeneratingPolynomial.html ...
Andreas Sparschuh
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Sep 12, 2007
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16754
Andreas, thank you very much for those links. Robin ... definition...
Robin Perry
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Sep 13, 2007
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16755
Since my 26 hexachord system uses A - Z, it could also be used as a code (a la "Enigma" for example) Since I am studying Crytography as part of my career, I...
Paul G Hjelmstad
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Sep 13, 2007
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!squiggle_clavichord.scl ! A559:600E1796:1797H448:449F#C#G#D#1702:1701b852:851F1916:1917C1436:1437G200:201A ! 12 ! 504/479 ! C# 536/479 ! D 567/479 ! D# ...
Andreas Sparschuh
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