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5717
Another correction. I wrote: "the consequences of mistaking a wavy flag for a straight one are not very serious musically (about 15 cents), while mistaking a...
David C Keenan
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5718
Some suggestions for a term that means a diesis larger than a half-apotome. biesis (contraction of "big diesis") diesoma (ending somewhat like "comma", ...
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5719
Now that we have all those single ASCII characters representing the most common single-shaft sagittals, it suggests we might use that for the keyboard mapping...
David C Keenan
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... hmm . . . i think we've been over this before, but for any schismina, no matter how tiny, there'll be some excellent temperament where it doesn't vanish....
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... wrote: Dave, I won't be able to reply to everything now, but I will address the comma-classification terminology that you proposed, and something about the...
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carl, here's an old message where i explained the error heuristic: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/message/1437 and you can see that gene, in his...
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... Great, thanks! I hadn't seen this, as "heuristic" doesn't appear in it. ... I do see that... you were already using the term for the complexity heuristic...
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... No, and the spreadsheet sorted by d is also sorted by n. And in that case it would have been easier to go straight to log(n*d). ... It's the first order...
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... So it could just as well be (n-d)/(d*log(n))? ... Straight to where (do you see log(n*d))? ... // ... Oh, (n/d)-1, not n/(d-1). ... The Mercator series??...
Carl Lumma <clumma@...>
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... This is approximately log(n/d)/log(n) The order will be reversed. If you can calculate it, see if it holds the ordering. With numerators it's easy as...
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... (And by the way, I thought that ... Any name for 100/99 should be part of a pair with 99/98. This is a problem with "small unidecimal comma" for 99/98; if...
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... Since the term schismina is not required in the _use_ of sagittal, but only in describing the theory behind it, I don't think it matters much whether ...
David C Keenan
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... No. I believe it doesn't matter. Take 2400:2401 (the 5^2:7^4 schismina) which, when untempered is only 0.72 cents and so cannot itself be notated in...
David C Keenan
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... I see your and Dave's notation as a complementary approach to the Scala notation. You are using lots of symbols and achieve a very accurate representation....
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... Then we have a pair now, Ptolemy's comma and small undecimal comma. 100/99 could also be called "2nd small undecimal comma" but George's idea is better. ...
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... Of course... so we're coming from log(n*d), not going to it. ... Ok, but I still don't get how the "Mercator series" shown in (8) dictates the rules for...
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... Oh, I thought you had followed that. It's usually called the Taylor series. I don't know what Mercator's got to do with it. But anyway it's ln(1+x) = x -...
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... no, gene introduced the word "heuristic". ... no. ... yes. i prefer log(odd limit) over either log(n) or log(d). ... standard taylor series approximation...
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... a very different sorting. that would be heuristic error, not heuristic complexity. of course it's a very different sorting, since knowing log(n) or log(d)...
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... what do you mean, we're coming from log(n*d)??...
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... but only ... whether ... schisma is ... paper and ... used ... vanishes in ... Okay, I just wanted you to clarify this so that we would both be using the...
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... these cutoffs are totally arbitrary and need not even be based strictly on JI cents considerations. but you guys may be interested in studying the...
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5739
... sorry -- that should be *click* through all the pages!...
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5740
... ? I was asking if the *error* heuristic could become (n-d)/(d*log(n)) if we substituted log(n) for log(d). ... Oh. How odd. -Carl...
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... In your original message, you *start from* "is proportional to log(n) + log(d)" and *arrive at* "Hence the amount of tempering implied by the unison vector...
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... K. ... Cool. ... Yeah, I thought the 1 was in the denominator. -C....
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5743
... On the mathworld page, it says "the Mercator series gives a Taylor series for the natural logarithm", and in fact makes it look like the Taylor series is...
Carl Lumma <clumma@...>
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... ...by the way the page is formatted. Turns out that the Mercator series is what we're talking about; a special case of the Taylor series. ...
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... Thanks. Those were very useful. In case anyone is wondering, the usage I gave, that is referred to on Monz's page above, was that of Scala's intnam.par...
David C Keenan
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5746
On second thoughts, 13.47 cents might be a better choice for the kleisma-comma boundary....
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