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8335
This is a kind of generic tuning to apply to large enough (and 12 seems to be large enough) 5-limit JI scales, since they always seem to have these relations....
Gene Ward Smith
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Jan 1, 2004
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8336
... the ... note ... the ... Gene -- you keep saying Pajara but don't you mean Diaschismic?...
Paul Erlich
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Jan 1, 2004
8:55 pm
8337
... don't ... I'm assuming that in 22-equal, it is more correctly called Pajara....
Gene Ward Smith
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Jan 1, 2004
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8338
If we consider 262144/253125 to be a third of a tone or a tertiatone, these may be named TERTIAtone DIEesis scales. ! tertiadie1.scl First Tertiadie...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jan 1, 2004
9:04 pm
8339
... are ... to ... No, Pajara is simply the 7-limit extension of Diaschsimic that you do get in 22-equal (and pretty much in no other ET): ...
Paul Erlich
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8340
... We are tuning Diaschismic so that the 7-limit works well, whether we want to acknowledge that fact or not. It's a Pajara tuning of Diaschismic, in other...
Gene Ward Smith
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8341
When tuning 225/224-planar (which used to be called both Byzantine and Pauline until people objected) there is no payoff in not having minor thirds pure (the...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jan 1, 2004
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8342
... you do ... bring ... You mean in the particular case of 22-equal? ... By "It" you mean 22-equal? ... My method?...
Paul Erlich
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Jan 1, 2004
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8343
... we ... Or any other tuning where the fifth is quite sharp. You'd have us call it "Diaschismic" even if the tuning was the pure 9/7's tuning! ... called ......
Gene Ward Smith
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Jan 1, 2004
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8344
... whether ... But this is nonsense. Why would you use 22-equal or any good Pajara tuning when there are far better Diaschismic tunings for doing what you...
Paul Erlich
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Jan 2, 2004
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8345
... tuning! ... Because I want higher than 5-limit harmonies, of course. All ... Not if you read carefully. I mentioned the various approximate higher limit...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jan 2, 2004
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8346
The classification effort staggers on. ! majraj1.scl Majraj 648/625 6561/6250 scale 12 ! 27/25 125/108 729/625 5/4 27/20 25/18 3/2 81/50 5/3 9/5 243/125 2 !...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jan 2, 2004
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8347
... us ... Pajara ... what ... I do read carefully. Actually, my brain is beginning to deteriorate, I should join a gym. ... I saw no mention of those in...
Paul Erlich
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Jan 2, 2004
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8348
... It was in the same posting as the rest of them. What did you think I meant by saying it was a good candidate for 22-et tempering?...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jan 3, 2004
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8349
... I've searched and found tuning post #50759, and tuning-math post #8332, and in both of them Pajara seems like a leap since you make no mention of anything...
Paul Erlich
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Jan 3, 2004
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8350
... no ... I hope you don't assume that I always mean 5-limit when I say "meantone". :) ... of ... I'm planning to see how many distinct scales one obtains in...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jan 3, 2004
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8351
... make ... so ... Since the PBs were 5-limit to begin with, it was by far the most natural assumption in this case....
Paul Erlich
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Jan 3, 2004
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8352
By the way, Gene, you never got back to me about 9-limit tunings. For any 7-limit scale, can't we produce a 9-limit tuning simply by using a multiplier of 3 on...
Carl Lumma
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Jan 3, 2004
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8353
... No. I don't know why you would use a multiplier of 3, and you'd obviously be ignoring 9:5, 9:7, and 9:8. Unless you're assuming a particular error...
Paul Erlich
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Jan 3, 2004
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8354
... Sorry, you're right of course. -C....
Carl Lumma
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8355
No one commented on the graphs I posted around Christmas, but I'll keep going, if only for myself . . . The syntonic comma = 81/80 (21.506 cents) has a length...
Paul Erlich
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Jan 3, 2004
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8356
In order to quantify straightness, I tried to come up with a formula that would give the 'area' of a bivector regardless of which basis vectors are chosen to...
Paul Erlich
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Jan 3, 2004
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8357
Is there a name for the 5-limit interval [-30 13], or the temperament which removes it? -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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Jan 3, 2004
12:35 pm
8358
Looks like this approach optimizes according to (Tenney) weighted minimax over ALL intervals. IS THIS RIGHT?? No need to specify a consonance limit? -- wow...
Paul Erlich
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Jan 3, 2004
8:51 pm
8359
... I doubt it. The interval in question is either 160000000000000 ... 205891132094649 or 320000000000000 ... 205891132094649 . . ....
Paul Erlich
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8360
... Gene and you had an exchange. Gene suggested what I was thinking, you said that each band represented only a denominator, not a comma. Or are you talking...
Carl Lumma
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Jan 3, 2004
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8361
... That's funny, it's supposed to be 222 cents. Crap, so sorry, it should have been [-30 0 13]. -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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8362
... I'll ... Yes, a later pair of graphs. ... No, no consonance limit (aka odd-limit) is implicity in the dimensionality of the Tenney lattice you're using --...
Paul Erlich
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Jan 3, 2004
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8363
... Well, then I still doubt it. ... Oh so you're thinking about 13-equal....
Paul Erlich
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Jan 3, 2004
11:09 pm
8364
... Yup. And I think only multiples of 13 do the job? -Carl...
Carl Lumma
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