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Fwd: Re: John Lear's comments on Area 51   Message List  
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--- In Lightfromsoundoasis@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Martin"
<kabir_75901@y...> wrote:

--- In Lightfromsoundoasis@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Martin"
<kabir_75901@y...> wrote:
> MM:
> I saw on the internet, a Brazilian website written in Portuguese,
the
> photos of the Guarapiranga human mutilation. It appears to be the
> work of the aliens. So, I think Mr. Lear's advice, if you see a
UFO
> to "run like Hell," is very good advice.
>
> Thanks for raising some very good points, Isydopen.
>
> Michael

MM:
According to my meditation, the aliens need enzymes from mammals,
cattle, mice, etc., even humans if they are hungry enough. This
planet is teeming with mammals, so it is a source of nourishment for
them. Apparently, they create a solution of body fluids, containing
these enzymes, and run it on their bodies, or they bathe in it.
Their bodies absord the enzymes through the skin.

I'm posting this, so that readers won't take any chances with the
aliens. It's possible, if you try to trust them, then might suck out
your organs through tiny incisions at the top of the skull, the
navel, or the anus. I'm sorry to have to write such gory details,
but facts are facts, and we need to be prepared. We should be at war
with the aliens, but they are superior to us in technology.

All the same, my advice is the same as Lear's. If you see one
coming, run like Hell.

Michael
>
> --- In Lightfromsoundoasis@yahoogroups.com, "isydopen"
> <isydopen@y...> wrote:
>
> > Aliens at Area 51?
> >
> > The following statement is a "working hypothesis" written by John
> > Lear on December 29, 1987 and revised on January 14 and again in
> > March.
> >
> > This revision is dated August 25, 1988.
> >
> > John Lear is a Lockheed L-1011 captain for a major US airline and
> > has flown over 160 different types of aircraft in over 50
different
> > countries. He holds 17 world speed records in the Lear Jet and is
> > the only pilot ever to hold every airman certificate issued by
the
> > Federal Aviation Administration. Mr. Lear has flown missions
> > worldwide for the CIA and other government agencies. A former
> Nevada
> > State Senator candidate, he is the son of William P. Lear,
designer
> > of the Lear Jet, the 8-track stereo and founder of Lear Siegler
> > Corp.
> >
> > Lear became interested in UFO's in the summer of 1986 after
talking
> > with United States Air Force personnel who had witnessed a UFO
> > landing at Bentwaters AFB, near London, England, and three small
> > aliens walking up to Wing Commander Gen. Gordon Williams.
> >
> > Michael Corbin, August 25, 1988
> >
> > THE UFO COVER-UP
> > by John Lear
> >
> > The sun does not revolve around the earth.
> >
> > The United States government has been in business with little
gray
> > extraterrestrials for about 20 years.
> >
> > The first truth stated here got Giordano Bruno burned at the
stake
> > in 1600 for daring to propose that it was real. The second truth
> has
> > gotten far more people killed trying to state it publicly than
will
> > ever be known.
> >
> > But the truth must be told. The fact that the earth revolves
around
> > the sun was successfully suppressed by the church for over 200
> > years. It eventually caused major upheaval in the church,
> government
> > and thought - a realignment of social and traditional values.
That
> > was in the 1800's.
> >
> > Now about 400 years after the first truth was pronounced we must
> > again face the shocking facts. The "horrible truth" the
government
> > has been hiding from us over 40 years. Unfortunately
the "horrible
> > truth" is far more horrible than the government ever imagined.
> >
> > In its effort to protect democracy, our government sold us to the
> > aliens. And here is how it happened. But before I begin I'd like
to
> > offer a word in the defense of those who bargained us away. They
> had
> > the best of intentions.
> >
> > Germany may have recovered a flying saucer in 1939. General James
> H.
> > Doolittle went to Sweden in 1946 to investigate reports of "ghost
> > rocket" UFO's - 1000's of which had been sighted over a 7 month
> > period.
> >
> > The "horrible truth" was known by only a very few persons. They
> were
> > indeed ugly little creatures: shaped like praying mantises and
who
> > were more advanced than us by perhaps as much as a billion years.
> Of
> > the original group that were the first to learn the "horrible
> truth"
> > several committed suicide - the most prominent of which was
Defense
> > Secretary James V. Forrestal who jumped to his death from a 16th
> > story hospltal wlndow. Secretary Forrestal's medical records are
> > sealed to this day.
> >
> > President Truman qulckly put a lid on the secret and turned the
> > screws so tight that the general public still thinks that flying
> > saucers are a joke. Have I ever got a surprise for them.
> >
> > In 1947 President Truman established a group of the 12 top
military
> > and scientific personnel of their time . They were known as MJ-
12.
> > Although the group exists today, none of the original members are
> > still alive. The last one to die was Gordon Gray, former
Secretary
> > of the Army, in l984. As each member passed away, the group
itself
> > appointed a new member to fill the position. There is some
> > speculation that the group known as MJ-12 expanded to at least
> > several more members.
> >
> > There were several more saucer crashes in the late 1940's: one in
> > Roswell, New Mexico; one in Aztec, New Mexico; and one near
Loredo,
> > Texas, about 30 miles inside the Mexican border.
> >
> > Consider if you will the position of the United States government
> at
> > that time. They proudly thought of themselves as the most
powerful
> > nation on earth having recently produced the atomic bomb, an
> > achievement so stupendous that it would take Russians 4 years to
> > catch up and only with the help of traitors to democracy. They
had
> > built a jet aircraft that had exceeded the speed of sound in
> flight.
> > They had built jet bombers with intercontinental range that could
> > carry weapons of enormous destruction. The cold war had brought
> > economic prosperity and the future seemed bright. Now imagine
what
> > it was like for those same leaders, all of whom had witnessed the
> > panic of Orson Wells' radio broadcast, "The War of the Worlds,"
in
> > 1938. Thousands of Americans panicked at a realistically
presented
> > invasion of earth of beings from another planet. Imagine their
> > horror as they actually viewed the dead bodies of those
frightening
> > looking little creatures with enormous eyes, reptilian skin and
> claw-
> > like fingers. Imagine their shock as they attempted to determine
> how
> > these strange saucers were powered and could discover no part
even
> > remotely similar to components they were familiar - with no
> > cylinders or pistons, no vacuum tubes or turbines. The stories
are
> > legendary of transporting crashed saucers over long distances,
> > moving only at night, purchasing complete farms, slashing through
> > forests, blocking major highways, sometimes driving 2 and 3 lo-
boys
> > in tandem with an extraterrestrial load a hundred feet in
diameter.
> >
> > On April 25, 1964, the first official communication between these
> > aliens and the U. S. Government took place at Holloman Air Force
> > Base in New Mexico. Three saucers landed at a pre-arranged area,
> and
> > a meeting was held between the aliens and intelligence officers
of
> > the U. S. Government.
> >
> > During the late 60's or early 70's, MJ-12 representing the U. S.
> > Government made a deal with those creatures called EBE's (extra-
> > terrestrial biological entities, named by Detlev Bronk,origlnal
MJ-
> > 12 member and 6th president of Johns Hopklns University).
> The "deal"
> > was that in exchange for "technology" that they would provide to
us
> > we agreed to "ignore" the abductions that were going on and
> suppress
> > information on the cattle mutilations. The EBE's assured MJ-12
that
> > the abductions (usually lasting about 2 hours) were merely the
> > ongoing monitoring of developing civilizations.
> >
> > In fact, the purposes for the abductions turned out to be:
> >
> > 1.Insertion of a 3 mm spherical device through the nasal cavity
of
> > the abductee into the brain. The device is used for the
biological
> > monitoring, tracking and control of the abductee.
> >
> > 2.Implementation of a post hypnotic suggestion to carry out a
> > specific activity during a specific time period, the actuation of
> > which will occur within the next 2 to 5 years.
> >
> > 3.Termination of some people so that they could function as
living
> > sources for biological material and substances.
> >
> > 4.Termination of individuals who represent a threat to the
> > continuation of their activity.
> >
> > 5.Effect genetic engineering experiments.
> >
> > 6.Impregnation of human females and early termination of
> pregnancies
> > to procure the crossbred infant.
> >
> > The U. S. Government was not aware of the far reaching
consequences
> > of their deal. They were lead to believe that the abductions were
> > essentially benign, and since they figured the abductions would
> > probably go on anyway whether or not they agreed, they merely
> > insisted that a current list of abductees be submitted, on a
> > periodic basis to MJ-12 and the National Security Council. Does
> this
> > sound incredible? An actual list of abductions to the National
> > Security Council? Read on, because I have news for you.
> >
> > The EBE's have a genetic disorder in that their digestive system
is
> > atrophied and not functional. Some speculate that they were
> involved
> > in some type of accident or nuclear war, or possibly on the back
> > side of an evolutionary genetic curve. In order to sustain
> > themselves, they use an enzyme or hormonal secretion obtained
from
> > the tissue that they extract from humans and animals. (Note: cows
> > and humans are genetically similar. In the event of a national
> > disaster cow hemoglobin can be used by humans.)
> >
> > The secretions obtained are then mixed with hydrogen peroxide and
> > applied on the skin by spreading or dipping part of their bodies
in
> > the solution. The body absorbs the solution then excretes the
waste
> > back through the skin. The cattle mutilations that were prevalent
> > throughout the period from 1973 to 1983, and publicly noted
through
> > newspaper and magazine stories and included a documentary
produced
> > by Linda Howe for the Denver CBS affiliate, were for the
collection
> > of those tissues by the aliens. The mutilations included genitals
> > taken, rectums cored out to the colon, eyes, tongue and throat
all
> > surgically removed with extreme precision. In some cases the
> > incisions were made by cutting between the cells, a process we
are
> > not yet capable of performing in the field. In many of the
> > mutilations there was no blood found at all in the carcass, yet
> > there was no vascular collapse of the internal organs. This has
> been
> > also noted in the human mutilations, one of which was Sgt.
Jonathan
> > P. Louotte at the White Sands Missile Test Range in 1956 who was
> > found three days after an Air Force Major had witnessed his
> > abduction by a "disk shaped" object at 0300 while on a search for
> > missile debris downrange. His genitals had been removed, rectum
> > cored out in a surgically precise "plug" up to the colon, eyes
> > removed and all blood removed with again no vascular collapse.
From
> > some of the evidence it is apparent that this surgery is
> > accomplished in most cases while the victim, animal or human, is
> > still alive.
> >
> > The various parts of the body are taken to various underground
> > laboratories, one of which is known to be near the small New
Mexico
> > town of Dulce. This jointly occupied (CIA-alien) facility has
been
> > described as enormous with huge tiled walls that "go on forever".
> > Witnesses have reported huge vats filled with an amber liquid
with
> > parts of human bodies being stirred inside.
> >
> > After the initial agreement, Groom Lake, one of this nation's
most
> > secret test centers, was closed for a period of about a year
> > sometime between 1972 and 1974, and a huge underground facility
> > constructed for and with the help of the EBE's. The bargained for
> > technology was set in place but could only be operated by the
EBE's
> > themselves. Needless to say, the advanced technology could not be
> > used against the EBE's themselves in case of need.
> >
> > During the period between 1979 and 1983 it became increasingly
> > obvious to MJ-12 that things were not going as planned. It became
> > known that many more people (in the thousands) were being
abducted
> > than were listed on the official abduction lists. In addition it
> > became obvious that some, not all, but some of the nation's
missing
> > children had been used for secretions and other parts required by
> > the aliens.
> >
> > According to some, there was an altercation between the U. S.
> > military and the aliens at the Dulce laboratory. A special armed
> > forces unit was called in to try and free a number of our people
> > trapped in the facility who had become aware of what was really
> > going on. According to one source 66 of the soldiers were killed
in
> > the effort and our people were not freed.
> >
> > By 1983 MJ-12 must have been in stark terror at the mistake they
> had
> > made in dealing with the EBE's. They had subtly influenced,
through
> > Dr. Hynek,(formerly with the Blue Book project, who had allegedly
> > broken ties with the Air Force in the late 60's but who in
reality
> > continued to be their informant in his cover capacity of Director
> of
> > the Center for UFO Studies) "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"
> > and "E.T." (now admitted by some members of MJ-12 to have been
> > a "drastic mistake") to get the public used to "odd looking"
aliens
> > that were compassionate, benevolent and very much our "space
> > brothers". MJ-12 had, in effect, "sold" the EBE's to the public,
> and
> > were now faced with the fact that quite the opposite was true. In
> > addition, a plan had been formulated in 1968 to make the public
> > aware of the existence of aliens on earth over the next 20 years
to
> > be culminated with several documentaries to be released during
the
> > 1985-1987 period of time. These documentaries would explain the
> > history and intentions of the EBE's. The discovery of the "Grand
> > Deception" put the entire plans, hopes and dreams of MJ-12 into
> > utter confusion and panic.
> >
> > Meeting at the "Country Club", a remote lodge with a private golf
> > course, comfortable sleeping and working quarters and its own
> > private airstrip built by and exclusively for the members of MJ-
12.
> > It was a factional fight of what to do now. Part of MJ-12, which
> had
> > now become military top-heavy, wanted to confess the whole scheme
> > and shambles it had become to the public, beg their forgiveness
and
> > ask for their support. The other part (and majority) of MJ-12
> argued
> > that there was no way they could do that - that the situation was
> > untenable and there was no use in exciting the public with
> > the "horrible truth" and that the best plan was to continue the
> > development of a weapon or plan of containment that could be used
> > against the EBE's under the guise of "SDI" (the so-called
Strategic
> > Defense Initiative which had nothing whatever to do with a
defense
> > for inbound Russian nuclear missiles). In fact, the real
definition
> > of purpose for SDI reads "the plotting, tracking and acquisition
of
> > articles in deep space." As these words are being written, Dr.
> > Edward Teller, "father" of the H-bomb, is personally in the
nuclear
> > test tunnels of the Nevada Test Site, driving his workers and
> > associates, in the words of one, "like a man possessed". And well
> he
> > should be for Dr. Teller is a member of MJ-12 along with Dr.
> > Kissinger, Admiral Bobby Inman, Lew Allen - to name a few members
> of
> > MJ-12.
> >
> > Before the "Grand Deception" was discovered and according to a
> > meticulous plan of release of information to the public, several
> > documentaries and video tapes were made. William Moore, a
Burbank,
> > California based UFO researcher who wrote "The Roswell Incident"
(a
> > book published in 1980 that detailed the crash, recovery and
> > subsequent cover-up of a UFO with 4 alien bodies) has a video
tape
> > of 2 newsmen interviewing a military officer associated with MJ-
12.
> > This military officer answers questions relating to the history
of
> > MJ-12 and the cover-up, the recovery of a number of flying
saucers
> > and the existence of a live alien (one of 3 living aliens
captured
> > and designated or named EBE-l, EBE-2 and EBE-3) being held in a
> > facility designated as YY-II at Los Alamos, New Mexico. (The only
> > other facility of this type, which is electromagnetically secure,
> is
> > at Edwards Air Force Base in Mohave, California). The officer
names
> > names as previously mentioned, plus a few others: Harold Brown,
> > Richard Helms, Gen. Vernon Walters, and Dr. Theodore von Karman -
> to
> > name a few of the current and past members of MJ-12.
> >
> > The officer also relates the fact that the EBE's claim to have
> > created Christ. The EBE's have a type of recording device that
has
> > recorded all of earth's history and can display it in the form of
a
> > hologram. This hologram can be filmed but because of the way
> > holograms work does not come out very clear on movie film or
video
> > tape. The crucifixion of Christ on the Mount of Olives has
> allegedly
> > been put on film to show the public. The EBE's claim to have
> created
> > Christ - which in view of the "Grand Deception" could be on
effort
> > to disrupt traditional values for undetermined reasons.
> >
> > Another video tape allegedly in existence is an interview with an
> > EBE. Since EBE's communicate telepathically, an Air Force colonel
> > serves as an interpreter. Just before the recent stock market
crash
> > several newsmen, including Bill Moore, had been invited to
> > Washington, D.C. to personally film the EBE in a similar type
> > interview and distribute the film to the public. Apparently,
> because
> > of the market crash, it was felt the timing was not propitious.
In
> > any case it certainly seems like an odd method to inform the
public
> > of extraterrestrials, but it would be in keeping with the actions
> of
> > a panicked organization who at this point in time didn't know
which
> > way to turn.
> >
> > Moore is also in possession of more Aquarius documents, a few
pages
> > of which leaked out several years ago and detailed the
supersecret
> > NSA project which had been denied by them until just recently. In
a
> > letter to Senator John Glenn, NSA's Director of Policy Julia B.
> > Wetzel wrote, "Apparently there is or was an Air Force project by
> > that name (Aquarius) which dealt with UFO's. Coincidentally,
there
> > is also an NSA project by that name." NSA's Project Aquarius
deals
> > specifically with the "communications with aliens" (the EBE's).
> > Within the Aquarius program was Project "Snowbird", a project to
> > test fly a recovered alien aircraft at Groom Lake, Nevada. This
> > project continues today at that location. In the words of an
> > individual who works at Groom Lake "our people are much better at
> > taking things apart than they are at putting them back together."
> > Another saw a saucer being trucked into the Nevada Test Site in
> > March of 1988. Still another informant witnessed a saucer being
> > buried at that location (for God knows whatever reason) during
the
> > second week of August 1988.
> >
> > If the government felt they were being forced to acknowledge the
> > existence of aliens on earth because of the overwhelming evidence
> > such as the Hudson Valley sightings during the past 4 years, the
> > Wythevllle, Virginia sightings in October and November of 1987,
the
> > Gulf Breeze, Florlda sightings in which documentary evidence in
the
> > form of stereoscopic photographs and video tape were taken
between
> > November of 1987 and May of l988, the Lake Superior sightings of
> > 1987 and the sightings in and around Las Vegas, Nevada and the
> > Nevada Test Site, and taking into consideration the "Grand
> > Deception" and obviously hostile intent of the EBE's - it might
be
> > expedient for MJ-12 to admit to the EBE's but conceal the
> > information on the mutilations and abductions of humans and
> animals.
> >
> > The enormity of the problem must be driving more than a few "at
the
> > top" to drink. But what about the rest of us? Most of those
> > reporting sightings are being viciously ridiculed by government
> > sponsored "debunkers" such as Philip Klass, former Avionics
editor
> > for Aviation Week and Space Technology, NASA scientist James
Oberg
> > and a host of others. When the truth does emerge, if it ever
does,
> > how is this shabby, dishonest treatment of totally sane, normal
and
> > patriotic citizens going to be justified?
> >
> > Now you ask, "Why haven't I heard about any of this?" Who do you
> > think you would hear it from? Dan Rather? Tom Brokaw? Sam
> Donaldson?
> > Wrong. These people just read the news. They don't find lt. They
> > have ladies that call and interview witnesses and verify
statements
> > on stories coming over the wire either AP or UPI. It's not like
Dan
> > Rather would go down to Wytheville, Virginia and dig into why
there
> > were 4000 reports of sightings in October and November of 1987.
> > Better that Tom Brokaw or someone else should risk their
> credibility
> > on this type of story. Tom Brokaw? Tom wants Sam Donaldson to
risk
> > his credibility. No one - but no one is going to risk their
> > reputation on such outlandish ideas regardless of how many people
> > report sightings of 900 foot objects running them off the road.
In
> > the case of the Wythevllle, Virginia sightings, dozens of vans
with
> > NASA lettered on the side failed to interest newsmen. And those
> that
> > asked questions were informed that NASA was doing a weather
survey.
> >
> > Well then, you ask, what about our scientists - what about Carl
> > Sagan? Isaac Asimov? Arthur C. Clarke? Wouldn't they have known?
If
> > Carl Sagan knows, then he is committing a great fraud through the
> > solicitation of memberships in the Planetary Society "to search
for
> > extraterrestrial intelligence." Another charade into which the U.
> S.
> > Government dumps millions of dollars every year is the
> > radiotelescope in Arecibo, Puerto Rico operated by Cornell
> > University with, guess who, Carl Sagan. Cornell University is
> > ostensibly searching for signals from outer space, a sign maybe,
> > that somebody is out there. Its hard to believe that relatively
> > intelligent astronomers like Sagan could be so stupid.
> >
> > What about Isaac Asimov? Surely the most prolific science fiction
> > writer of all time would have guessed by now that there must be
an
> > enormous cover-up. One current hypothesis is that, on the
available
> > evidence, it appears that the EBE's are trying to regenerate
their
> > own species at our expense. They have apparently suffered either
> > some kind of nuclear holocaust or they may be on the back side of
a
> > bell-shaped evolutionary curve where in essence they
> are "devolving"
> > instead of evolving. In any case, according to several autopsies
of
> > aliens that have leaked out, the EBE's have an atrophied
digestive
> > system and other physical problems. This would account for their
> > attempts to cross-breed with us as outlined in "Intruders" by
Budd
> > Hopkins (a detailed study of an Indianapolis woman who, over
> several
> > years produced 7 cross-breed alien children, none of whom she was
> > allowed to keep - not that she wanted to).
> >
> > Whatever the answer, these facts are indisputable. The extent and
> > number of persons reported missing every year is a closely
guarded
> > government secret. Since 1980, at least 20,000 children have been
> > reported missing each year. Cattle mutilations (over 14,000 since
> > 1973) are regarded officially by the government as a "hoax".
Human
> > abductions are officially regarded by the government as a "hoax".
> > The latest polls show that 88% of all Americans believe that
> > intelligent life on other planets is probable and that over 20
> > million Americans have seen what they believed to be a UFO. But
the
> > U. S. Government officially dismisses "flying saucers" as
a "hoax".
> > What do you think?
> >
> > The best advice I can give you is next time you see a flying
saucer
> > and are awed by its obvious display of technology and gorgeous
> > lights of pure color:
> >
> > RUN LIKE HELL!

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Nov 30, 2005
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... watching! ... a "bad" one? ... extracts? ... MM: They are not necessarily bad, but we can't take chances, can we? If we do, we are liable to end up as...
Michael Martin
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Nov 30, 2005
7:03 pm

... Mmm, aren't the Pancake Eaters in ferocious interstellar war with the WafflePeople over control of this portion of the galaxy--something along the lines...
costello@... Send Email Nov 30, 2005
6:02 pm

... the ... along ... to the ... to block ... MM: There are more than one species of aliens out there. Some are fearful of us. Others, I would say, we need...
Michael Martin
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Nov 30, 2005
7:05 pm

Group, Please excuse me being rational for a moment. Although the pancake and waffle theory is pretty funny! Has John Lear published anything recently? To my...
DAVID LACROIX
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Nov 30, 2005
7:41 pm

Ah, then, is humanity the syrup that will unite the pancake and the waffle races? Peace. Linette ... From: <costello@...> To:...
Linette Sukup
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Nov 30, 2005
7:00 pm

... From: "Stuart Miller" <Stuart.Miller4@...> To: <ufonet@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [UFOnet] Fwd:...
geoff@...
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Nov 30, 2005
7:54 pm

Hi Folks, thanks for the various replies. My last post to Michael (claiming to be the re-incarnation of a witch, etc) was intended to demonstrate how easy it...
Joe McGonagle
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Nov 30, 2005
11:08 pm

... MM: Joe, my advice to you is, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. ... MM: Whenever anyone claims access to transcendental planes of consciousness,...
Michael Martin
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Dec 1, 2005
7:39 pm

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:38:53 -0000, Michael Martin wrote ... wrote: <snip my text relating to motivation for claims of "contact" etc> ... Unfortunately, it is...
Joe McGonagle
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Dec 1, 2005
11:35 pm

MM: ... MM: I just posted an account of a UFO sighting that my wife and I experienced. You write with a big "IF." My wife and I know what we saw, and this is...
Michael Martin
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Dec 2, 2005
6:43 pm

... From: Joe (uk-ufo) McGonagle To: ufonet@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [UFOnet] Fwd: Re: John Lear's comments on...
Geoff Richardson
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Nov 30, 2005
9:11 pm

... the ... Y'know, that might be the Missing Link in my theory, in that both the Pancake Eaters and the WafflePeople are in combat over Humanity. I wonder, ...
costello@... Send Email Dec 1, 2005
12:31 am

Joe, or shall I say Lizzie, I know yyou for what or rather whom you are. You did a number on my garden when I wouldn't give you the oatcake recipe that we...
Linette Sukup
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Dec 2, 2005
5:42 am

... MM: I don't know if Joe is out of line, or not, but he seems closed minded to all the sightings, simply due to a lack of proof. Michael ... ...
Michael Martin
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Dec 2, 2005
6:45 pm

Joe, It depends on what you define as a "New World Order". And if you use it, you should at least be prepared to define it. Don't forget that it was Henry...
Geoff Richardson
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Dec 2, 2005
7:35 pm

Hi Geoff, ... From: "Geoff Richardson" <Geoffrich@...> To: <ufonet@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: Re:...
Joe (uk-ufo) McGonagle
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Dec 4, 2005
4:42 pm

Hello Michael, List, It's impractical to maintain all of the original text in a form that would be easy to read, so I am addressing the points which I think...
Joe (uk-ufo) McGonagle
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Dec 4, 2005
4:45 pm

MM: Dear Joe and Members, ... MM: It takes some unmitigated gall to even ask such a personal question, IMHO. ... MM: This is also personal. As I said, in the...
Michael Martin
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Dec 5, 2005
9:46 pm
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