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#19458 From: "ingrabella" <ingrabella@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 4:01 am
Subject: Dreamland and Area 51 DVD for sell
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am selling new unopened factroy sealed DVD of Dreamland Area 51
Documetry. Great DVD. A must have for all UFO Buffs. Payment
Accepted Money Orders, Cashiers Check, Personal Checks, If you are
interested in the DVD E-mail me at ingrabella@... I am selling
it for $10.00 that includes shipping.

Product Details


Award winning documentary
Excellent must-have DVD for those interested in UFO's
Enormous 120 Minute DVD
Region: All Regions
ASIN: B000UFLPMM


Filmmaker and journalist Brucr Burgess goes deep into the heart of
the greatest secret of the 20th century: Area 51 or "Dreamland" in
this award-winning documentary. Originally a skeptic, Burgess was
converted and now he presents his findings here. Footage of UFO's
performing impossible maneuvers under cover of darkness. Multiples
aircrafts flying over the base are only the beginning of this account
of what goes on in a base that is roughly the size of
Switzerland.Learn about the unexplained deaths of Area-51 workers,
government funded black projects and the reverse engineering of
extraterrestrial technology. Dreamland goes beyonf the perimeter
wire, through the fields of motion sensorsm past the armed patrols,
jet fighters and attack helicopters to uncover the truth of the
greatest secret yet exposed! ** Winner of the E.B.E. Award For "Best
UFO Documentary" **

#19459 From: GRELET CHRISTOPHE <greletchristophe@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 4:06 pm
Subject: INFO BLOG /INTERVIEW DE DANIEL BENAROYA/GREPI/SWITZERLAND
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Hello,

You will fin an interview of Daniel Benaroya (du Groupe de Recherche et d'Etude
des Phénomènes Insolites), available on my blog :

http://www.jcgrelet.com/


Bien à vous.


JC.GRELET

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#19460 From: "stealthskaters" <stealthskaters@...>
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:39 pm
Subject: 2-time physics (Itzhak Bars)
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This is from a mainstream physicist (Stanford and USC) -- not
an "alt" person. Don't know why it made me think of those Montauk
guys and people like Tom Bearden. Perhaps wishful thinking, but I
couldn't help myself.

(1) Itzhak Bars' "layman's" article =>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?
xml=/earth/2007/10/10/scitime110.xml [also archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Time_03.doc ]


(2) more "technical" article at
http://physics1.usc.edu/~bars/research.html#2T [also archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Time_04.doc ]

There was a book entitled The Holographic Universe. Whether this was
a forerunner to any of Prof. Bars' theses, I am not sure. Nor am I
sure of any of the following which came to my mind as I read the
above.

Former electrical engineering professor Ray Kramer (father of famed
missing person Philip Taylor Kramer) had proposed his own "Theory of
Everything" in something he called "the Equation". Reportedly his son
(an expert in fractal geometry) accidentally solved it when
he "plugged" it into another problem that he was working on. It
claimed to permit instantaneous communication anywhere within the
Universe as well as -- more mysteriously -- possible biological
teleportation => http://www.stealthskater.com/Science.htm#Kramer .

Famed German rocket pioneer Hermann Oberth allegedly said that UFOs
(or perhaps more precisely, the one he allegedly examined
[Roswell?] ) appeared to function more as "time machines" of some
sort than advanced flying craft. And proponents of the "Montauk
Project" have claimed that it inadvertently accessed "timelines"
already existing => http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm .

Some theories of the "Philadelphia Experiment" said that it was based
on a discovery made by Nikola Tesla where he saw that by applying
certain magnetic and electrical fields, an object could be made to
reverse along its previously-established path on his workbench.
Supposedly this found its way into WWII minesweepers (not a destroyer)
which could regress along a history path when it was too late to
avoid a mine => http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Chica .

And there are the "intuitive communication" claims of former ELINT
Sgt. Dan Sherman with off-world aliens (Project Preserve Destiny) in
which they allegedly said that they did not travel "through" time
(that was impossible) but "evaded" time
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Sherman.htm ). Perhaps this "evasion"
was what Prof. Bars was referring to as the other time dimension?

Finally, this additional time dimension makes me remember what Tom
Bearden has been saying all along involving "unobservables" in
a "scalar time domain" => http://www.stealthskater.com/Bearden.htm ]

(I initially posted this at http://wyzwyrld.com/Forums.html -- the
successor to the former EaglesDisobey.org site)

#19461 From: "Frits Westra" <ufo-net@...>
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:02 am
Subject: Fwd: Jonathan's Space Report, No. 586
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Jonathan's Space Report
No. 586                                        2007 Oct 14, Somerville, MA
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Shuttle and Station
-------------------

Soyuz TMA-11 was launched at 1322 UTC on Oct 10. The spaceship is
production number 221, and flies the ISS 15S mission carrying both the
Expedition 16 long stay crew and the EP-13 visiting crew to the Space
Station. The Soyuz crew is commanded by Yuriy Malenchenko and includes
NASA's Peggy Whitson and Malaysia's Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor Al Masrie.
They docked with the Station's Zarya module at 1450 UTC on Oct 12.
Aboard the station, Whitson takes command as Expedition 16 commander,
with Malenchenko as flight engineer, together with second flight engineer
Clay Anderson who has been aboard since August. Expedition 15 crew
Fyodor Yurchikin and Oleg Kotov will return to Earth on Soyuz TMA-10
together with EP-13 crewmember Shukor Al Masrie.

Orbiter OV-103 Discovery is now on pad 39A at Kennedy Space Center awaiting
launch on mission STS-120.

The Progress M-60 cargo ship undocked from Zvezda at 0037 UTC on Sep 19
and was used for plasma depletion experiments before being deorbited
over the Pacific at 1901 UTC on Sep 25. Progress M-61 remains docked at
Pirs. Soyuz TMA-10 undocked from Zarya at 1920 UTC on Sep 27 and docked
with Zvezda at 1947 UTC.

Dawn
----

The Dawn space probe was launched towards the asteroid belt on Sep 27.
Congratulations to loyal reader and Dawn project engineer Marc Rayman;
I recommend his journal at http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal.asp

Dawn is the 9th NASA Discovery mission and will orbit the dwarf planet
Ceres and the large asteroid Vesta; it follows on from the successful
Deep Space 1 technology mission in using ion drive for NASA planetary
exploration. It has 3 NSTAR xenon ion thrusters, with 425 kg of xenon
propellant for interplanetary travel, and 12 0.9-Newton MR-103G
hydrazine thrusters with 46 kg of propellant for asteroid orbit
insertion. The spacecraft was built by Orbital/Dulles using a
Star-2-derived bus with a dry mass of 747 kg, and is 1.8 x 1.3m in size
with two large 19.7-meter-span solar arrays to provide power for the ion
drive. Dawn has three main instruments: the Framing Cameras, the VIR
visible/IR mapping spectrometer, and the GRaND gamma ray and neutron
spectrometer. The mission is managed by JPL and principal investigator
is Chris Russell of UCLA.

United Launch Alliance carried out the launch on a Boeing Delta 7925H at
1134 UTC on Sep 27. At 1142 UTC the Delta second stage reached a 185 x
186 km Earth parking orbit; the second burn was at 1225 UTC. After a
third, depletion, burn the second stage was in a 170 x 6776 km x 26.7
deg orbit, but I don't have the post-second-burn orbit - it was probably
about 185 x 6835 km with a velocity at perigee of 9.01 km/s.  The PAM-D
solid third stage fired at 1229 UTC to accelerate the probe to an escape
velocity of 11.50 km/s; at 1236 UTC the stage separated after releasing
two small despin weights on cables.  Dawn's hyperbolic escape orbit of
209 x -83420 km x 28.9 deg had an asymptotic velocity of 3.36 km/s
(specific energy C3 = 11.319 km**2/s**2). Dawn passed lunar orbit at
about 1430 UTC on Sep 28 and left the Earth's sphere of influence on Sep
30. Dawn is now in a 1.00 x 1.62 AU solar orbit inclined 0.5 deg to the
ecliptic; after a Mars flyby in Feb 2009 it will reach Vesta in 2011 and
Ceres in 2015. The first test burn of the ion engine on Oct 6 was
successful.


Kaguya
------

Japan's Kaguya moon probe was in a 2243 x 378132 km cislunar transfer orbit
by Sep 30; on Oct 3 at 2100 UTC it entered a 101 x 11741 km x 95 deg
lunar orbit. The probe is now lowering its orbit to 100 km circular;
the Okina (R-Star) subsatellite was ejected into a 115 x 2399 km
orbit at 0036 UTC on Oct 9, and the Ouna (VRAD) subsatellite
was ejected at 0428 UTC on Oct 12 into a 127 x 795 km orbit.


Ariane L526
-----------

Intelsat IS-11 and Optus D2 were launched by Ariane 5GS vehicle L526.
Both are Orbital Star-2 communications satellites; IS-11 provides
Atlantic region C and Ku-band comms for Intelsat, and Optus D2
is a Ku-band satellite for Australia/New Zealand region TV, internet,
telecom and data. By Oct 12 both had reached geosynchronous altitude.

WGS SV-1
--------

The USAF's first Wideband Global Satcom satellite was launched by United
Launch Alliance Atlas V model 421, serial AV-011 on Oct 11 into
a 477 x 66847 km x 20.1 deg transfer orbit. The satellite replaces the
DSCS military communications satellites and carries X-band and Ka-band
communications payloads. WGS uses a Boeing 702 bus.


Foton M-3
---------

The Foton M-3 microgravity satellite was deorbited at 0723 UTC on Sep 26
and landed at 0758 UTC in Kazakhstan, returing its Russian/European
microgravity payload to Earth.

One day earlier, on Sep 25 at 0447 UTC, the ESA YES-2 tether was
deployed from the battery pack on the front end of Foton. The tether was
then severed at the battery pack end at about 0720 UTC, after it had
reached only 8.5 km of its planned 30 km length. The tiny 5 kg Fotino
reentry capsule separated from  the attached MASS data support system
shortly afterwards. The idea was that the dynamics of space tethers let
you send a capsule back to Earth without using a heavy retro-rocket; as
the tether swings beneath the parent satellite, if you wait until the
velocity of the capsule is too low for orbit at that height and then
release it, it will reenter for free. It is not yet known what actually
happened  to the capsule; my best guess is that both MASS/tether and
Fotino did reenter sometime on Sep 25 either on their first orbit or
shortly afterwards. The next day at Foton deorbit, the battery pack and
its attached YES2 deployer was ejected into a 257 x 275 km orbit and two
retrorocket covers were ejected into higher 265 x 500 km orbits.

CBERS-2B
--------

On Sep 21, the China-Brazil CBERS-2B remote sensing satellite raised its
orbit to an operational altitude of 773 km.

Table of Recent (orbital) Launches
----------------------------------
Date UT       Name            Launch Vehicle  Site            Mission
INTL.
                                                                            DES.
Sep  2 1250   Insat 4CR         GSLV             SDSC
Comms      37A
Sep  5 2243   JCSAT 11          Proton-M/Briz-M  Baykonur
Comms      F03
Sep 11 1305   Kosmos-2429       Kosmos-3M        Plesetsk LC132/1
Navigation 38A
Sep 14 0131   Kaguya            H-IIA 2022       Tanegashima      Moon
probe 39A
Sep 14 1100   Foton M-3  )      Soyuz-U          Baykonur
Micrograv  40A
                YES-2      )
Tech       40C
                Fotino     )
Tech       40
                MASS       )
Tech       40
Sep 18 1835   WorldView 1       Delta 7920       Vandenberg SLC2W
Imaging    41A
Sep 19 0326   CBERS-2B          Chang Zheng 4B   Taiyuan
Imaging    42A
Sep 27 1134   Dawn              Delta 7925H      Canaveral SLC17B
Probe      43A
Oct  5 2202   Intelsat IS-11 )  Ariane 5GS       Kourou ELA3
Comms      44A
                Optus D-2      )
Comms      44B
Oct 10 1322   Soyuz TMA-11      Soyuz-FG         Baykonur LC1
Spaceship  45A
Oct 11 0022   WGS SV-1          Atlas V 421      Canaveral SLC41
Comms      46A


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#19462 From: GRELET CHRISTOPHE <greletchristophe@...>
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:21 pm
Subject: INFO BLOG /INTERVIEW DE JEAN-PAUL DEBENAT
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Hello,

You will fin an interview of Jean-Paul Debenat for his book Sasquatch and the
mystery men wild,  on my blog :


http://www.jcgrelet.com/


Regards.


JC.GRELET

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#19463 From: <worldgathering@...>
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:32 pm
Subject: Concepts of SUPERSONIC ZEN
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'SUPERSONIC ZEN - SAVE US'
Music Video by Dave & Chris
The Supersonic Zen Record Company
http://www.worldgathering.net/dave.html
At GOOGLE VIDEO:
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CONCEPTS of SUPERSONIC ZEN

Concepts of Supersonic Zen - 1
Dance - Music - Song - Expression - Food
With the mind its not the capacity that’s so important –
it’s the speed. It’s the multilevel integrated speed/s of
the mind which are important. Dance, Music, Expression,
Song and what we take in for physical energy (food)
integrate the many speeds the mind is capable of –
all simultaneously. Get your central mind ‘chip’ going,
and everything will rise and fall and level into place.
 
Concepts of Supersonic Zen - 2
Dance - Music - Song - Expression - Food
Organise camps where good music (melodious, fast, slow);
all types of dance (fast, slow, gentle); expression of
hopes, dreams and ideas; and good food to give your mind
and body the vitality and energy it needs to fly the
multi-speed mind-body organism at supersonic Zen speeds.
Get a musical instrument and get to know it, interact
with it and see where you and the instrument are going.
It’s play, not work. That’s why people ‘play’ musical
instruments. Everyone can sing. Exercise the throat to
remove tension, and you will start to sing.
 
Concepts of Supersonic Zen - 3
Dance - Music - Song - Expression – Food
The mind and body need good energy intake to function well.
Energy is always needed, and listen to your body to find
out what you feel you need, and don’t need, to eat. Vitality
for the mind, energy for the soul and body. With this
formula we may even be able to start to breathe, especially
if they stop the worldwide spraying of ‘Chemtrails’. Get
into action. Get friends into action. Organise. We can find
freedom. And a vitality we have never known before.

Your Cosmic Zen Friend

'SUPERSONIC ZEN - SAVE US'
Music Video by Dave & Chris
The Supersonic Zen Record Company
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http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=469902042270567508
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#19464 From: "Marge Padgitt" <margepadgitt@...>
Date: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:26 pm
Subject: Mysteries of the Universe Conference June 7 2008 Kansas City
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The Mysteries of the Universe Conference 2008

This first annual conference will be held in Kansas City, Missouri on
June 7.  Keynote Speaker Stanton Friedman will join Bill Hamilton, Vince
White, Margie Kay, Chris Brethwaite, and Jason Offutt speaking on UFO's,
Paranormal Events, NDE's, Hauntings, and The Strange and Bizzare.  A
large trade show is included.  For more information and to register
please visit www.ufokc.4mg.com <http://www.ufokc.4mg.com> .  Register
early to assure a spot.

Please go to the website for vendor information.

Thank you,

Margie Kay
Director
Mysteries of the Universe Conference
www.ufokc.4mg.com <http://www.ufokc.4mg.com>
816-833-1602



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#19465 From: GRELET CHRISTOPHE <greletchristophe@...>
Date: Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:00 pm
Subject: INFO BLOG /INTERVIEW DE JEAN ROCHE POUR SON OUVRAGE
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Hello,

  You can find an interview with Jean Roche for his book Wilds and Hairy - Yétis,
Sasquatch, Almasty, Barmanou, Bigfoot... Survey beings that we do not want to
see, available on my blog :


http://www.jcgrelet.com/
or                                         The Chronicles OF JC



Greetings.


JC.GRELET

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#19466 From: "Giuliano Marinkovic" <giuliano.marinkovic@...>
Date: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:04 am
Subject: Uforadio International 04 - Philip Mantle - Investigation about Alien Autopsy Hoax
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Uforadio International 04 - Philip Mantle - Investigation about Alien
Autopsy Hoax

UFORADIO - INTERNATIONAL
Hosted by Giuliano Marinkovic

UFORadio Podcast Program presents:

04 -  JACQUES PATENET – INVESTIGATION ABOUT ALIEN AUTOPSY HOAX

Famous British UFO researcher Philip Mantle joins us in this episode.
We discussed the recent developments about the infamous Alien Autopsy Film,
the progress of UFO DATA magazine and recent news about the release of
british
MOD UFO documents.

You can download this Podcast episode directly at:

http://uforadio.podomatic.com/enclosure/2007-10-26T17_03_23-07_00.mp3

Or from our Website:

http://uforadio.podomatic.com

Our RSS Feed is at: http://uforadio.podomatic.com/rss2.xml

You can also send this info to your colleagues via this link:

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Best regards:

UFORADIO - INTERNATIONAL
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#19467 From: GRELET CHRISTOPHE <greletchristophe@...>
Date: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:18 pm
Subject: INFO BLOG /INTERVIEW DE CHRISTIAN LE NOEL / AFRC
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Hello,

  You can find an interview with Christian le Noël (The French Association for
Research Cryptozoologiques) , available on my blog :


http://www.jcgrelet.com/


Regards.


JC.GRELET

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#19468 From: "stealthskaters" <stealthskaters@...>
Date: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:16 am
Subject: uniting Physics with Biology
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The "holy grail" of Physics has been equated with uniting General
Relativity (GR: the Macroscopic) with Quantum Mechanics (QM: the
microscopic) into one all-encompassing "Theory of Everything (TOE)".

What seems to be missing from this endeavor is the inclusion of
Consciousness.  Unless one assumes that it resides in the QM world
and would be already covered by that theory/model.

There has been a great deal of recent interest among physicists
(both "mainstream" and "alternative") in remote-
viewing/influencing/healing, Out-of-Body Experiences (OBEs), Near-
Death Experiences (NDEs), ESP, psychokinesis (PK), and other such
things.  Some of this has been "undercover" so as to preserve careers
and livelihoods.  (I find it interesting that none other than Robert
Bigelow  --founder of the National Institute for Discovery
Science "NIDS" which investigated paranormal reports -- funded a
Chair of Consciousness Studies at a Nevada university.)

There are many theories of Consciousness.  I found the more noted at
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Consciousness_Studies/Table_of_theories
(archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Consciousness_38.doc ).  Among
those is controversial Finnish physicist Matti Pitkanen's
TopologicalGeometro Dynamics (TGD).

It is an attempt to a unified description of fundamental interactions
based on the assumption that physically allowed space-times are
representable as submanifolds of the space, which is a Cartesian
product of Minkowski space (or possibly of its lightcone) and of some
compact spaces.

It proposes a construction of the Universe based on an 8-dimensional
space geometry.  In this complex theory (i.e., many physicists
reportedly cannot follow all of his math), magnetic wormholes play a
very significant biological role.

In fact, the innovative thrust of his theory is to establish a
scientific link between Physics and Biology (the true "final
frontier"!).  It leads to a cosmology of sentient beings (and gives a
new meaning to "dark matter", "dark photons").  Contained in DNA is
much more than simply the instructions for synthesizing proteins for
the construction of living cells.  These powerful genetic
biomolecules also contain the data for the operation of magnetic
wormholes as biological communication channels.

Pitkänen has come up with a genuinely new approach of incorporating
the mental concepts of Consciousness and perception into the New
Physics.  Wormhole-Magnetic Fields (which are present as space-time
layers) are contained in the normal biological material and are
excellent candidates for a physical explanation of perception.
Magnetized wormholes can really be seen as the quintessential living
system.

Pitkänen's TGD theory demonstrates the long suspected connection
between Gravitation and Consciousness.  Namely, that Gravitation and
Consciousness represent antipoles.  It even suggests that Gravitation
is a fiction, evidenced by the fact that gravitational force can be
converted into electricity (i.e., electromagnetic vibrations
synonymous with brain waves) in vacuum domains.

Pitkänen earned his PhD while defending his TGD theory.  Since then,
he and others have been working on into its third decade.  He has
been employed at major European high-energy labs (check his "Bio").

I archived (and hopefully made a little easier-to-read) some of his
articles from his website (http://www.physics.helsinki.fi/~matpitka )
on a special page => http://www.stealthskater.com/Pitkanen.htm .  I
would suggest starting with his "PowerPoint" presentations first ("a
picture is worth a thousand words").

He points out the successes and failures of string/M-brane theories
and explains all of the latest "dualities" (e.g., Ed Witten) in TGD
terms.  Many of his .pdf files (which I did not archive)
are "standard" physics stuff relating to complex geometries of space-
time.  "Geometric-Future" and "-Past" are explained in geometrical
terms while "Geometric-" and "Experienced-Time" are distinguished.

But most fascinating -- and totally unexpected for me -- were other
topics that he applied his TGD model to.  One normally doesn't see
this with "standard" physics' TOE models.  Outside of Tom Bearden
(and I do not know if Tom and Matti have ever corresponded), I have
never seen these in any other "major" site.  (Indeed, a well-known
UFO researcher [who I now suspect to be a counter-intel agent]
complained that I had "too much" [of these topics] at my site.)
These included such "taboo" subjects as:

(a) the mythical ORMEs/ORMUS substances (Type III
semiconductor "magic" metals,);

(b) Tesla's "scalar waves"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Bearden.htm );

(c) the "arrow of Time" which could allow for "healing" by rebooting
to an earlier biological benchmark (Antoine Priore) and an
alternative explanation for the "Philadelphia Experiment" which was
reversing along a prior-established history path rather
than "teleportation" (http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Chica );

(d) a TGD-based guess as to what the alleged "orgone" energy of
Wilhelm Reich was (http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Reich );

(e) conscious-Life after biological-death;

(f) postulates of why psychokinesis, remote-viewing, etc. function;
and

(g) a TGD-based hypothesis that many "UFOs" are of a "plasmoid" type
that interact via certain conscious minds (something that Carl Jung
and others had long proposed but without any math-based theory) --
also archived as a separate article at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/TGD_01.doc .

There were other articles of his that I previously archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Science.htm#Emergent .  And some of the
topics of "Consciousness Engineering"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Consciousness.htm ) would appear to be
prime candidates for his theory.

A note of caution, however.  In this mortal life, I view
all "theories/models" as a path in the right direction toward
the "end of the tunnel" rather than 100% mathematically- and
philosophically-correct.  Meaning not to dismiss one prematurely at
finding the first "dividing-by-zero" mistake (something that Einstein
himself did in one of his papers!).

(And I still think that there is a small but highly secretive link
between nuclear detonations and what we call "UFO" sightings.  I
don't believe that it is "aliens" coming from another realm to
protest.  But it is the reason behind the worldwide moratorium on all
such atmospheric and underground tests in the late-80s and why
mass "UFO" sightings have all but ceased since then.  And it wouldn't
surprise me if it were a large part of the reason why the U.S.
government objects to other nations developing their own nuclear
arsenals.  It has more to do with just weapons of mass destruction!
A new meaning to Dan Sherman's "Project Preserve Destiny"
[http://www.stealthskater.com/Sherman.htm ] ???)

#19469 From: <worldgathering@...>
Date: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:17 am
Subject: World MUSIC - 2008 WORLD GATHERING - All Year 2008
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Please send to friends and post at your lists

2008 WORLD GATHERING for TRUTH and LIFE
http://www.worldgathering.net/2008
http://groups.google.com/group/worldgathering
http://groups.myspace.com/2008gathering
http://tribes.tribe.net/worldgathering

World Celebration of Music, Truth, Harmony - and all
the things which make life Good. Gatherings and Music
Events Around the World throughout 2008 in association
with '2008 WORLD GATHERING'.

Welcome to the Project
- A Worldwide Celebration of Music and Life in 2008

In celebration of the great hopes, life-filled ideas
and magical music which were born during 1968's 'Summer
of Love' music explosion. We propose musical events and
gatherings are held around the world during 2008 to
celebrate the 1968's 'Summer of Love' music revolution.

A suggested theme for music events and gatherings in 2008:
'2008 World Gathering for Music, Truth and Life'.

From 1968's 'Summer of Love', to 2008's 'World Gathering'
- JOIN US - David, Michael, and Friends

Send us details of YOUR 2008 music event, or holistic
gathering which includes music, and we will add your
details to our event/gathering listings for 2008.
CONTACT US: http://www.worldgathering.net/2008/contact.html

2008 'World Gathering' Music Events & Gatherings:
http://www.worldgathering.net/2008/gatherings1.html

Theme music for '2008 WORLD GATHERING' -
'Supersonic Zen' Music by Dave and Chris in Scotland:
http://www.worldgathering.net/dave.html

Concepts of Supersonic Zen:
http://www.worldgathering.net/2008/supersonic.html

Some of our 'Supersonic Zen Zoom' Music files:
http://www.worldgathering.net/2008/music.html#zoom

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2008 WORLD GATHERING at Google Groups:
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2008 WORLD GATHERING at Tribe groups:
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http://www.worldgathering.net/2008

Please send to friends and post at your lists

#19470 From: "Joan Homann" <gus-homann@...>
Date: Fri Nov 2, 2007 1:55 am
Subject: AERO Award Program
homjo
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AERO Award Program

November 1, 2007

Advanced Energy Research Organization, LLC (AERO) announces an up-
front $200,000 licensing award and minimum $5 million two year
royalty program for a qualifying new energy breakthrough.

The Charlottesville, VA energy research company is leading a world-
wide search for promising, out-of-the-box inventors and scientists
who have provable energy generation inventions that need support,
further development and widespread public exposure.

AERO CEO Steven M. Greer MD notes that, "Over the past 100 years,
many major energy breakthroughs have withered on the vine, died with
the inventor or been absorbed into secretive corporate or government
programs. It is AERO's mission to see that these new technologies are
protected, supported and massively disclosed to the public so that we
can go beyond our current addiction to oil,
gas and coal and begin a new, sustainable era in human history.

AERO is uniquely qualified to see that such technological innovations
make it to market. Our network includes 'A-list' celebrities, Nobel
Prize winners, current and former heads of State and millions of
people who follow our work. The inventor or team that has a
qualifying system for energy generation will have the full force,
support and protection of this unique, global network.


Web site for more information: http://www.aero2012.com/en/award.html


This email announcement was sent by The Disclosure Project
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#19471 From: GRELET CHRISTOPHE <greletchristophe@...>
Date: Sun Nov 4, 2007 2:29 pm
Subject: INFO BLOG /SUPPORT TO DR ROGER LEIR
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Hello,

  You can find a reproduction of the letter of Gildas Bourdais, following the
broadcast "Masters imposture", On October 12 last, about Dr. Roger Leir , on my
blog   :


http://www.jcgrelet.com/


Regards.


JC.GRELET

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#19472 From: "Joan Homann" <gus-homann@...>
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 2:47 pm
Subject: UFOs on Larry King Live on Thursday
homjo
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UFO BOMBSHELL ANNOUCEMENT! CNN TO BRING FORTH USG MILITARY OFFICIALS,
"BLACK WORLD" SUPERSTARS and GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FROM AROUND THE WORLD
TO "OUT" THE UFO/ET MATTER!

Thursday, November 8th, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT on the "Larry King LIVE!"
Show!

MARK YOUR CALENDARS NOW!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

#19473 From: "Joan Homann" <gus-homann@...>
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: UFOs on Larry King Live on Thursday
homjo
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Sorry, the show has now been rescheduled to FRIDAY. It has changed 3
times now. I hope they come through.

UFO BOMBSHELL ANNOUCEMENT! CNN TO BRING FORTH USG
M-LITARY OFFICIALS, "B-ACK WORLD" SUPERSTARS and G-VERNMENT
OFFICIALS FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO "OUT" THE UFO/ET MATTER!
Friday, November 9th, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT on the
"Larry King LIVE!" Show!
MARK YOUR CALENDARS NOW!
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/




--- In ufonet@yahoogroups.com, "Joan Homann" <gus-homann@...> wrote:
>
> UFO BOMBSHELL ANNOUCEMENT! CNN TO BRING FORTH USG MILITARY OFFICIALS,
> "BLACK WORLD" SUPERSTARS and GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FROM AROUND THE
WORLD
> TO "OUT" THE UFO/ET MATTER!
>
> Thursday, November 8th, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT on the "Larry King LIVE!"
> Show!
>
> MARK YOUR CALENDARS NOW!
>
> http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/
>

#19474 From: Tim Edwards <timedwards@...>
Date: Fri Nov 9, 2007 4:31 am
Subject: [Fwd: [FATEreader] WATCH Larry King Live on Friday, November 9th]
timledwards32
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Upcoming show on UFOs.

;-)

Tim

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [FATEreader] WATCH Larry King Live on Friday, November 9th
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:29:24 -0000
From: "Robert A. Goerman" <robert_a_goerman@...>
Reply-To: FATEreader@yahoogroups.com
To: FATEreader@yahoogroups.com

Paradigm Research Group

Media Notice - 10/7/07

Washington, DC - The full hour of Larry King Live on Friday, November
9 will be devoted to UFO/ET phenomena. There will be a number of
government witnesses of rank and station. The program airs at 9 pm
EST and is usually repeated later in the evening.

See: http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live

James Fox, the producer along with Tim Coleman, of "Out of the Blue" -
  the best documentary on the subject of UFOs and government posture
created to date - brought the program together.

See: www.outofthebluethemovie.com

This program is very significant due to its content and the timing
concordant with the controversy developing around what current
presidential candidates are saying about the subject matter.

PRG very strongly suggests that reporters, editors and publishers
watch this program in order to better understand the most profound
news story in history now close to reaching critical mass. They must
decide once and for all whether to engage this issue.

For those who are not in the media: watch the show, tape it, and get
portions up on video archive sites ASAP. Contact your local papers and
representatives in Congress and suggest they watch the program.
Spread the word to your contact lists, blog sites, Face Book, My
space, etc. There is a storm coming, and in the eye of this storm is
Disclosure.

Also, the Larry King Live program is prelude to an equally important
press conference - also assembled by James Fox - scheduled for 11 am,
Monday, November 12 at the National Press Club. More government
witnesses of rank and station will be presented at that time.

See: www.freedomofinfo.org/media/PRESS_ADVISORY.pdf

Contact: Stephen Bassett
Executive Director
PRG@...
202-215-8344

___________________________________________________

Paradigm Research Group
4938 Hampden Lane, #161, Bethesda, MD 20814
PRG@... 202-215-8344
www.paradigmresearchgroup.org

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'So much to learn, so little time!'

DreamScape - http://dreamscape.0catch.com/dreamscape.htm

#19475 From: Tim Edwards <timedwards@...>
Date: Fri Nov 9, 2007 4:34 am
Subject: [Fwd: [FATEreader] PRG Media Advisory Forward]
timledwards32
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Heads up!

;-)

Tim

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [FATEreader] PRG Media Advisory Forward
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:22:06 -0000
From: "Robert A. Goerman" <robert_a_goerman@...>
Reply-To: FATEreader@yahoogroups.com
To: FATEreader@yahoogroups.com

PRG Media Advisory Forward
____________________

NEWS ADVISORY

For immediate release:
Thursday, Nov. 1, 2007

For further information contact: Leslie Kean 415-250-9791

- UFO Close Encounters
- The Reality as Seen by Former High Level Government and Military
Officials
- Pilots to Tell Their UFO Stories for the First Time

Group to call on US Government to Re-Open its Investigation

The American public is not alone when it comes to sighting what the
US Air Force has labeled Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs). So too
have former governors, high level military and government officials,
highly trained airplane pilots and aviation experts. The phenomenon
is real. It happens worldwide. No one is sure about its nature.
Experts from seven countries will divulge what they have discovered
about UFOs at a November 12 panel discussion moderated by former
Arizona Governor Fife Symington (R) at the National Press Club.

Just one year ago, pilots, mechanics and managers from United Airlines
witnessed a metallic disc-shaped object hovering over the United
Airlines Terminal at Chicago's O'Hare Airport. The clearly observed
object shot straight up leaving a hole through the clouds. Despite
the clear aviation safety issues involved, the Federal Aviation
Administration (FAA) never investigated the incident and dismissed it
as weather. This head-in-the-clouds refusal to investigate stands in
sharp contrast to efforts by governments of other countries to
understand these incidents.

"I believe that our government should take an active role in
investigating this very real phenomenon," said Symington, who was a
witness to the famed Phoenix Lights" incident seen by hundreds in
Arizona while he was governor. "This panel consists of some of the
most qualified people in the world with direct experience in dealing
with this issue, and they will bring incredible, irrefutable
evidence, some never presented before, that we simply cannot dismiss
or ignore," he said.

The group, using previously classified documents, will discuss many
well-documented cases, including two investigated by the US
government.  The first involves a Peruvian Air Force pilot who fired
many rounds at a UFO which was not affected. The second was an
Iranian Air Force pilot's attempt to fire at a UFO, but whose control
panel became inoperable. "This case is a classic that meets all the
necessary conditions for a legitimate study of the UFO phenomenon,"
stated the US Defense Intelligence Agency document on the Tehran
incident. Both pilots will come forward to speak about these events
publicly for the first time.

WHO: Fife Symington, Former Arizona Governor, Moderator

- Ray Bowyer, Captain, Aurigny Air Services, Channel Islands
- Rodrigo Bravo, Captain and Pilot for the Aviation Army of Chile
- General Wilfried De Brouwer, former Deputy Chief of Staff, Belgian
Air Force (Ret.)
- John Callahan, Chief of Accidents and Investigations for the FAA,
1980's
(Ret.)
- Dr. Anthony Choy, founder, 2001, OIFAA, Peruvian Air Force
- Jean-Claude Duboc, Captain, Air France (Ret.)
- Charles I. Halt, Col. USAF (Ret.), Former Director, Inspections
Directorate, DOD I.G.
- General Parviz Jafari, Iranian Air Force (Ret.)
- Jim Penniston, TSgt USAF (Ret.)
- Dr. Claude Poher, Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales, founder,
French GEPAN
- Nick Pope, Ministry of Defence, UK, 1985-2006
- Dr. Jean-Claude Ribes, Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique,
France, 1963-98
- Comandante Oscar Santa Maria, Peruvian Air Force (Ret.)

WHAT: Former Arizona Governor Fife Symington will moderate a
distinguished panel of former high-ranking government, aviation, and
military officials from seven countries to discuss close encounters
with what the US Air Force describes as Unidentified Flying Objects
(UFOs). Representatives from France, England, Belgium, Chile, Peru,
Iran and the US will call for the US Government to join in an
international dialogue and re-open its investigation - which the Air
Force shut down over 30 years ago - in cooperation with other
governments currently dealing with this unusual and controversial
phenomenon. While on active duty, the panelists have either witnessed
a UFO incident or have conducted an official investigation into UFO
cases relevant to aviation safety and national security.

WHEN: Monday, November 12, 2007, 11:00 AM

WHERE: National Press Club, Ballroom

Event open to credentialed media and Congressional staff only

CONTACT:
James Fox, documentary filmmaker; director of the acclaimed film "Out
of the Blue"
jamescfox@...
415-519-9631

Leslie Kean, investigative journalist with the Coalition for Freedom
of Information
lkean@...
415-250-9791

___________________________________________________

Paradigm Research Group
4938 Hampden Lane, #161, Bethesda, MD 20814
PRG@... 202-215-8344
www.paradigmresearchgroup.org



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'So much to learn, so little time!'

DreamScape - http://dreamscape.0catch.com/dreamscape.htm

#19476 From: <worldgathering@...>
Date: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:49 am
Subject: Here comes DEATH FROM ABOVE
worldgathering
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DEATH FROM ABOVE - Global Chemtrail Discharging
http://www.worldgathering.net/2008/videos.html

Like many, for around seven years I've been fighting
the global deliberate aerial discharging of bioweapons
and toxic chemicals to control and reduce the world's
population. We often can use a new insight and new
inspiration to keep us going. A few days ago I was
amazed and astonished to see a short music video at
YouTube videos. The music video with photographs and
images is called, 'Death From Above, Smashing Pumpkins
(the name of the musicians) featuring Chemtrails':
http://www.worldgathering.net/2008/videos.html

Or, see at 'STOP CHEMTRAILS':
http://www.worldgathering.net/stop/index.html#death

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Perhaps, people in the past could see further because
they did not watch television. Here are three similar
warnings from indigenous people of North America:

"Crazy Horse saw a great darkness fall upon the people,
followed by visions of great machines flying in the air
to produce what some North American Plains Indians
refer to as the DEATH WINDS."
http://www.worldgathering.net/world/crazyhorse.html

Warning given by Hopi Nation elder Dan Evehema, USA.
Dan Evehema passed on recently at approx age of 106:
"We will see a halo of mist around the heavenly bodies
(comment: a massive, discharged aerosol would do this)
as a warning that we must reform and telling us people
of all colour must unite and arise for SURVIVAL, and
that we must UNCOVER the CAUSE of our dilemmas."
http://www.worldgathering.net/stop/hopiwarnings.html

Also from late Hopi elder, Dan Evehema:
"The time will come when from the earth will
arise a MYSTIC FOG which will dilute THE MINDS
and hearts OF ALL PEOPLE."
http://www.worldgathering.net/stop/hopiwarnings.html

Re: 'DILUTE THE MINDS ... OF ALL PEOPLE', see:
Mind-Numbing Abilities of Globally Sprayed Chemtrails
http://www.worldgathering.net/world/numbing.html
The Control of Humanity - Our Minds Are Being Numbed
http://www.worldgathering.net/world/gwen.html#mind

---------

World Gathering For Truth NEWS:
http://www.worldgathering.net/news.html

2008 World Gatherings For Truth & Music:
http://www.worldgathering.net/2008

E.F. Schumacher:
"We must do what we conceive to be the right thing
and not bother our heads or burden our souls with
whether we will be successful. Because if we don't
do the right thing, we will be doing the wrong thing
and we will just be a part of the disease and not
a part of the cure."

2008 World Gatherings For Truth
Home: http://www.worldgathering.net
MySpace: http://groups.myspace.com/2008gathering
Google: http://groups.google.com/group/worldgathering
Tribe Group: http://tribes.tribe.net/worldgathering

2008 World Gatherings For Truth
http://www.worldgathering.net

#19477 From: "kevinsmithshow" <host@...>
Date: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:39 pm
Subject: Element 115: The Rock Band With Alien Drummer
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The rock band, Element 115, has an alien drummer.  Well sort of.  "AL"
the drummer is an animated gray alien projected on a huge screen behind
the band.  His movements match the drum sounds you hear so perfectly
that you almost begin to think, "How is this possible?"  Ah, the
wonders of modern technology.

Michael Higgins, guitarist and lead singer for the band, will be the
guest on the Kevin Smith Show on Tuesday, November 13, 2007.  He will
be discussing the alien influence on the band (its name and drummer),
as well as the band's latest CD.

Catch the interview and call in to talk with Michael at
http://kevinsmithshow.com.  The show is live M-F at 7pm (PST)  9pm
(CST)  10pm (EST).

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#19478 From: "kevinsmithshow" <host@...>
Date: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:04 pm
Subject: Bosnian Pyramid Discoverer on Kevin Smith Show
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Since the day he announced to the world that there were ancient pyramids in
Bosnia, Semir Osmanagic has been the target of ridicule by some of the big name
archeologists around the world.  But, he has a couple of really big things going
for him.  First, he has spent years studying pyramids in Central and South
America.  Second, a team of Egyptian archeologists specializing in pyramids has
conducted research at the Bosnian pyramid site.  And now, their report is
public.

Semir Osmanagic will be the guest on the Kevin Smith Show on Wednesday, November
14, 2007.  The Kevin Smith Show is live M-F at 7pm (PST) 9pm (CST) and 10pm
(EST) at http://kevinsmithshow.com.

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#19479 From: GRELET CHRISTOPHE <greletchristophe@...>
Date: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:34 pm
Subject: INFO BLOG / INTERVIEW OF FRANCOIS DE SARRE / C.E.R.B.I
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Hello,

You can find an interview with François de Sarre of C.E.R.B.I ( the STUDY and
RESEARCH CENTER for INITIAL BIPEDALISM), available on my blog :
http://www.jcgrelet.com/


Regards


JC.GRELET

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#19480 From: "Joan Homann" <gus-homann@...>
Date: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:24 am
Subject: The National Press Club UFO Conference
homjo
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The entire transcript of the UFO Conference held at the National Press
Club on November 12th. is found at the URL below:

Go to www.freedomofinfo.org for transcripts of the press conference
presentations and the international declaration to the U.S. Government
requesting a re-opening of the official investigation into UFOs.  For a
DVD of the event, check www.outofthebluethemovie.com for information.

#19481 From: "antigray" <antigray@...>
Date: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:38 pm
Subject: National Press Club -- UFO Conference Transcript
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National Press Club -- UFO Conference Transcript

RODRIGO BRAVO GARRIDO
Since the beginning of Chilean history, there have been reports of
unidentified phenomena, sometimes called UFOs, observed in our skies.
Over the years, we have increased our capacity to explain many of the
sightings, but some continue to remain without a scientific or logical
explanation.
For that reason, in October of 1997, the Department of Civil
Aeronautics, the Chilean equivalent of the American FAA, set up the
Committee for the Study of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena, known as the
CEFAA. This agency handles the best reports of unidentified aerial
phenomena in cooperation with aeronautic specialists.
In 2000, the Aviation branch of the Army of Chile assigned me to
research anomalous aerial phenomena, which they knew were real, and
their affect on aerospace security. I then graduated to become a
military pilot, and learned that the Aviation Amy had in its files
many reports of UFO incidents from military pilots.
A link was then established between our Army office and the CEFAA, and
as a result, nine official cases have been documented. This has helped
to create awareness among the flight crews about UFOs, and they now
cooperate with flight security to report any abnormal situation.
One of our most important civil aviation cases occurred in 1988,
showing that unidentified flying objects can be a danger for air
operations. A Boeing 737 pilot, on a final approach to the runway at
?The Tepual? Airport in Puerto Montt City, suddenly encountered a
large white light surrounded by green and red. The light was moving in
the opposite direction of the airplane, coming straight at it. The
pilot had to make a steep turn to the left in order to avoid a
collision. The phenomenon was observed by the control tower personnel.
In 2000, the crew of a Chilean plane from the Aviation branch of the
Army, flying South of Santiago, observed a long cigar-shaped object, a
brilliant gray. It flew parallel to the right side of the aircraft for
two minutes and then disappeared at a very high speed. This object was
detected by the radar of the Control Center of Santiago which notified
the crew minutes before the incident.
Sadly, the UFO subject has been contaminated with false information,
out of touch with reality, provided by unqualified people to the
media. This has moved the issue away from a scientific and specialized
study where it belongs.
In light of that problem, we now make the call to all the countries
that are presently working on this issue in a serious and factual way,
to unite their efforts. We would like this to include the United
States of America.
This cooperative effort would help all of us counteract the
potentially unsafe effects of UFOs on air operations around the world.
New cases are being documented by pilots, traffic controllers,
operations staff at the world?s airports, and by many others with the
proper training to determine if a flying object is something unusual.
The true origin of these UFOs is unknown, yet they do affect aviation
all around the planet, and this must be addressed.

JOHN J. CALLAHAN
What I am about to tell you now, is about an event that never
happened. I am John Callahan, and I was Division Chief of the
Accidents, Evaluations and Investigations Division of the FAA in
Washington, for 6 years during the 980?s.
In early January of 987, I received a call from the Air Traffic
Quality Control Branch in FAA's Alaskan regional office, requesting
guidance on what to tell the media personnel who were overflowing
their office. The media was requesting information about the UFO that
chased a Japanese 747 across the Alaskan sky for some 3 minutes at
flight levels between 3 000 and 35000 ft. on November 7, 986. Somehow,
the word had got out. "What UFO; when did this take place; why wasn?t
Washington Headquarters informed?" I asked. "Hey, he replied, ?who
believes in UFO's? I just need to know what to tell the media to get
them out of here." The answer to that question was easy: "Tell them
it's under investigation. Then, collect all the data - the voice tapes
and data disc for both the facility and the military. Send then
overnight to the FAA Tech Center in Atlantic City, New Jersey."
Japan Air Lines flight 628, a cargo jet with a pilot, co-pilot and one
crew member, was just north of Anchorage, and it was about pm when the
pilot first reported the UFO. He described it as a huge ball with
lights running around it. He said it was about 4 times bigger than a
747, and he saw it with his own eyes. So did the other two crew members.
Over the course of 3 minutes, the UFO jumped miles in a few seconds,
changing places to different spots around the 747, in one sweep of the
radar scope.
After receiving the data from Alaska almost two months later, I
briefed my boss Harvey Safer and the FAA Administrator Admiral Engen,
and Safer and I went to the FAA Tech Center to observe the playback.
The FAA had developed a program capable of recreating the traffic on
the controllers' scope, or plan view display. I instructed the FAA
specialist to synchronize the voice tapes with the radar data so we
could hear everything the controller and pilot said. I video taped the
radar display. Later that day, I requested that the FAA automation
specialists plot the radar targets along the route of flight and
explain what each target was doing. I video taped the resulting chart.
The print out and radar play back displayed primary targets in the
vicinity of the 747. These target returns were displayed about the
same time and place as the pilot advised viewing the UFO. Both the
radar and manual controller observed the primary target. The military
controllers also viewed the primary target on their radar and
identified it as a "double primary." The pilot and crew viewed the
target on their radar and were able to see the huge UFO at the same
time as it approached their aircraft.
If this craft had been a leer jet or military aircraft at the wrong
altitude, that would have been clear. The FAA has procedures that
cover tracking unidentified aircraft violating another's airspace -
but it has no procedures for UFOs.
Back at FAA headquarters, I gave Administrator Engen a quick briefing
and showed him the video. He set up a briefing with President Reagan's
scientific staff, and told me my function was to give them a dog and
pony show and hand this event off to them, "since the FAA does not
deal with UFO's." I brought along a copy of the video and all the data
print outs available at the time. One of the scientists asked a number
of questions, such as, what is the range of the radar, what is the
frequency of the radar, what is the band width, what is the formula
for the height equipment, etc.
I was impressed with the response from the FAA experts. At the end,
one of the three people from the CIA said, "This event never happened;
we were never here; we?re confiscating all this data and you are all
sworn to secrecy." "What do you think it was?" I asked the CIA person.
"A UFO and now they have over 30 minutes of radar to go over," he
responded. "Well let?s get a twix out and advise the American public
that we were visited by a UFO," I suggested.
"No way, if we were to tell the American public there are UFO's they
would panic," he informed me. Some time after the briefing, the
detailed FAA report which included extensive interviews with the pilot
and crew, the chart prepared at the Tech Center; and facility voice
tapes arrived at my office and were placed on a small table waiting
for the CIA to request more data. The material stayed there until I
retired 2 years later, and I've had it ever since. Most people
including FAA controllers really aren't familiar with how the FAA
radar system works and why all aircraft traveling through our airspace
are not caught on radar or displayed on the controllers PVD. But I am.
The system and organization of the FAA is not configured to identify
and track these types of performances.

ANTHONY CHOY
I am Dr. Anthony Choy, founding member of the Office of Investigations
of Anomaluos Aereal Phenomena (OIFAA), and an investigor for this
office. This agency was established by the Peruvian Air Force in
December, 2001.
I am the author of "Project 33," the first Integral study on the UFO
phenomenon in Peru. I traveled all over my country for about three
years, speaking with witnesses, obtaining audio-visual information
such as photographs and videos, and collecting data for this study.
On October 13, 2001, in the northern city of Chulucanas, and before
hundreds of people, eight spheres of light, of an intense red-orange
color, were recorded on video. We were the first ones to obtain this
video and we gave it to the air force. These objects were suspended in
the air for over five hours, moving in an apparently intelligent
manner, and in absolute silence until they disappeared.
A few days later, on October 25th, the luminous tear-shaped object of
some 25 meters diameter (approx. 80 feet), was recorded over the
countryside near the city. Within a few minutes, the apparent
"landing" of light spheres in the woods was also recorded.
In February of 2002, the Air Force?s OIFAA ordered me to investigate
these sightings.
Taking responsibility for the so-called "Chulucanas Incident", in
February 2003 Peruvian Air Force Colonel Jose Raffo Moloche, Director
of Aereal and Space Concerns, made an open statement to the media
acknowledging that the Chulucanas Incident was the first official UFO
investigation in Peru.
The preliminary conclusion was that the sightings, although being
physically real, had no explanation. The case remains open, and the
investigation continues independently
The climax occurred on August 6 of 2004 when, in collaboration with
the American television channel of Univision, we were able to record
for 55 minutes a distant object of unknown nature and origin, moving
at great velocity in the sky, going up and down, and right and left.
I believe the Air Force in Peru has done the right thing by opening an
office to conduct these investigations. The evidence we have from
actual UFO cases and incidents that have taken place in our country
show that the UFO phenomenon remains one of the greatest challenges to
our current knowledge of science and technology.

JEAN-CHARLES DUBOC
My name is Jean-Charles DUBOC, and I am a retired Air France Captain.
During Air France Flight 3532 from Nice to London, on 28 January 1994,
I observed, with my crew, a daylight UFO near Paris. We had few
passengers on board and none of them had reported that observation to
the crew.
The time was 1:00 P.M, and the visibility was excellent with some
altocumulus clouds.
That object had been identified initially by a steward who was in the
cockpit and by the copilot as a weather balloon, but when I identified
it, it looked quite different.
In fact this UFO was in evolution and it looked like this (I shall
then show a drawing), with a bank angle of 45°.
It seemed to be a huge flying DISC.
It stabilized and stopped moving (moving horizontally the drawing).
We observed it over one minute on the LEFT on our plane, surprisingly
totally stationary in the sky, and it disappeared progressively (turn
of the drawing).
This large object was below us at the altitude of 35, 000 ft (we were
at 39 000 ft), at a distance of about 25 nautical miles.
The colour was RED BROWN with BLURRED outlines.
The apparent diameter of this object could be compared to the diameter
of the moon, or the sun. That means that it was about 1000 feet wide.
We had no idea of the structure of the UFO that seemed to be embedded
in a kind of magnetic or gravitational field, with no lights or visual
metallic structure, which gave it a really FUZZY appearance.
The most incredible aspect is that it became transparent and
disappeared in about 10 to 20 seconds.
My co-pilot, chief steward and I quickly realized that what we were
seeing did not resemble anything known to us, and we reported our
sighting to Reims traffic control.
Simultaneously, the radar of the Operational Centre of the Air Defence
(the CODA), registered a one minute spot crossing the track of our plane.
When I recorded the estimated position of the UFO on an aeronautical
map I was surprised to realize that its position was near the base of
Taverny which hosts the headquarters of the French Strategic Air Command.
This sighting has been studied by the French military COMETA group
under the direction of General Denis Letty and with the participation
of several high ranking officers of the French Defence, as well as by
GEPAN under the French National Space Centre (CNES).
The investigations determined this could not have been a weather
balloon, and estimated the approximate length of the UFO to have been
800 feet.
This sighting remains unexplained.

WILFRIED DE BROUWER
My name is Wilfried De Brouwer. I am a retired Major General of the
Belgian Air Force and I was Chief Operations in the Air Staff when an
exceptional UFO wave took place over Belgium. Indeed, during the
evening of 29 November 1989, in a small area in Eastern Belgium,
approximately 140 UFO sightings were reported. Hundreds of people saw
a majestic triangular craft with a span of approximately 120 feet,
powerful beaming spot lights, moving very slowly without making any
significant noise but, in several cases, accelerating to very high speeds.
The following days and months, many more sightings would follow. The
UFO wave would last more than one year during which a Belgian UFO
organization conducted more than 650 investigations and recorded more
than 400 hours of audio witness reports. On one occasion, a photograph
revealed the triangular shape and four light beams of the object.
Belgium had no official focal point for reporting UFO observations.
Nevertheless, in my function of Chief Operations, I was confronted
with numerous questions about the origin and nature of these craft. In
the first instance, and in consultation with other NATO partners, I
could confirm that no flights of stealth aircraft or any other
experimental aircraft took place in the airspace of Belgium. In
addition, the Civil Aviation Authorities confirmed that no flight
plans had been introduced. This implied that the reported object(s)
committed an infraction against the existing aviation rules.
The Belgian Air Force tried to identify the alleged intruder(s) and,
on three occasions, launched F 16 aircraft. On one occasion, two F 16
registered rapid changes in speed and altitude which were well outside
of the performance envelope of existing aircraft. Nevertheless, the
pilots could not establish visual contact and the investigation
revealed that specific weather conditions may have caused
electromagnetic interferences and false returns on the radar screens.
The technical evidence was insufficient to conclude that abnormal air
activities took place during that evening.
In short, the Belgian UFO wave was exceptional and the Air Force could
not identify the nature, origin and intentions of the reported phenomena.

CHARLES I. HALT
My name is Charles I. Halt. I retired from the US Air Force in 1991 as
a Colonel. I was a base commander at two large installations and at
the time of my retirement was Director, Inspections Directorate for
the DOD IG. In that position I had inspection oversight of all
military services and defense agencies. In 1980 I was the Deputy Base
Commander of RAF Bentwaters, the large twin base complex in East
Anglia England. At the time this was the largest Tactical Fighter Wing
in the Air Force. In late December 1980 I was called upon to
investigate a strange event that was distracting our Security Police
from their primary duties. Early on the morning of December 26, 1980
our police patrolmen discovered strange lights in the forest east of
the back gate of RAF Woodbridge. Three patrolmen were dispatched into
the forest to investigate. They reported discovering a strange
triangular craft sitting on three legs. The craft was approximately 3
meters on a side. The craft had multiple lights. It rapidly maneuvered
and quickly left the area. I was not immediately aware of the details
only being told of strange lights and assumed there was a reasonable
explanation. Two nights later the family Christmas party was
interrupted by the on duty police commander. He told of strange events
and claimed "it" was back. Since my boss had to present awards I was
tasked to go out and investigate. I fully expected to find an
explanation. I took two senior Security Police, a Disaster
Preparedness expert and the reporting On Duty Police Commander. At the
site we found the three 1 ½" indentations in the ground in a
triangular pattern. [SHOW PLASTER CAST],
We discovered mild radiation, and evidence including broken branches.
We suddenly observed a bright red/orange oval object with a black
center. It reminded me of an eye and appeared as though blinking. It
maneuvered horizontally through the trees with occasionally vertical
movement. When approached it receded and silently broke into five
white lights which quickly vanished. We moved out of the forest into a
pasture and observed several objects with multiple lights in the
Northern sky. They changed in shape from elliptical to round.
Several other objects were seen to the South. One approached at high
speed and sent down a concentrated beam near our feet. Another object
sent down beams into the weapons storage area. The whole time we had
difficulty communicating with the base as all three radio frequencies
kept breaking up. This activity continued for about an hour.
During this entire event I had my pocket recorder and taped the event
as it unfolded. A copy of the tape was released without my knowledge.
This is the original recorder and tape. I have no idea what we saw but
do know whatever we saw was under intelligent control.

PARVIZ JAFARI
My name is Parviz Jafari, and I am a retired General of Iranian Air Force.
At about 11 pm on the evening of 18th September, 1976, citizens were
frightened by the circling of an unknown object over Tehran, the
Capital city of Iran, at a low altitude. It looked similar to a star,
but bigger and brighter.
They reported it to the tower and it was seen by the tower man too. He
alerted the Air Force command post and Deputy General Yousefi decided
to scramble an F-4 jet to investigate.
The pilot in the first jet lost instrumentation and communications
when he got too close to the brilliant object, so he headed back.
About 10 minutes later, they scrambled a second jet, which I was
piloting. At the time I was Squadron commander.
I approached the object, which was flashing with intense red, green,
orange and blue light so bright that I was not able to see its body.
The sequence of flashes was extremely fast, like a strobe light.
We locked on it with radar; it was at 30° left, at a range of 25
miles. The size on the radar scope was comparable to that of a 707 tanker.
Four other objects with different shapes separated from the main one,
at different times during this close encounter.
Whenever they were close to me, my weapons were jammed and my radio
communications were garbled.
One of the objects headed toward me. I thought it was a missile. I
tried to launch a heat seeking missile to it, but my missile panel
went out. Another followed me when I was descending on the way back.
One of the separated objects landed in an open area radiating a high
bright light, in which the sands on the ground were visible.
We could hear emergency squash all the way, which was reported by
other airliners flying at the time and continued for another couple of
days.
During my interview at H.Q, after the incident, an American colonel
took notes, but after it was over I could not find him to talk with.
Later, a once-classified document was released here in America through
the Freedom of information Act. The Defense Intelligence Agency
documented the event in great detail, and it was sent to NSA, The
White House and the CIA. The DIA assessment said "this case is a
classic that meets all necessary conditions for a legitimate study of
the UFO phenomenon."
I would be happy to answer questions and tell you more.
Thank you.

JAMES PENNISTON
My name is James Penniston, United States Air Force Retired.
In 1980, I was assigned to the largest Tactical Fighter Wing in the
Air Force, RAF Woodbridge in England. I was the senior security
officer in charge of base security.
At that time I held a top-secret US and NATO security clearance and
was responsible for the protection of war-making resources for that base.
Shortly after midnight on the 26th of December, 1980, Staff Sergeant
Steffens briefed me that some lights were seen in Rendlesham Forest,
just outside the base. He informed me that what ever it was didn?t
crash?it landed. I discounted what he said and reported to the control
center back at the base that we had a possible downed aircraft. I then
ordered Amn. Cabanzak, AIC Burroughs to respond with me.
When we arrived near the suspected crash site it quickly became
apparent that we were not dealing with a plane crash or anything else
we?d ever responded to. There was a bright light emanating from an
object on the forest floor. As we approached it on foot, a silhouetted
triangular craft about 9 feet long by 6.5 feet high, came into view.
The craft was fully intact sitting in a small clearing inside the woods.
As the three of us got closer to the craft we started experiencing
problems with our radios. I then asked Cabansag to relay radio
transmissions back to the control center. Burroughs and I proceeded
towards the craft.
When we came up on the triangular shaped craft there were blue and
yellow lights swirling around the exterior as though part of the
surface and the air around us was electrically charged. We could feel
it on our cloths, skin and hair. Nothing in my training prepared me
for what we were witnessing.
After ten minutes without any apparent aggression, I determined the
craft was non hostile to my team or to the base. Following security
protocol, we completed a thorough on-site investigation, including a
full physical examination of the craft. This included photographs,
notebook entries, and radio relays through airman Cabansag to the
control center as required. On one side of the craft were symbols that
measured about 3 inches high and two and a half feet across.
These symbols were pictorial in design; the largest symbol was a
triangle, which was centered in the middle of the others. These
symbols were etched into the surface of the craft, which was warm to
the touch and felt like metal.
The feeling I had during this encounter was no type of aircraft that
I?ve eve seen before.
After roughly 45 minutes the light from the craft began to intensify.
Burroughs and I then took a defensive position away from the craft as
it lifted off the ground without any noise or air disturbance. It
maneuvered through the trees and shot off at an unbelievable rate of
speed. It was gone in the blink of an eye.
In my logbook, (that I have right here) I wrote, Speed: IMPOSSIBLE.
Over 80 Air Force Personnel, all trained observers assigned to the
81st Security Police Squadron, witnessed the takeoff.
The information acquired during the investigation was reported through
military channels. The team and witnesses were told to treat the
investigation as "top secret" and no further discussion was allowed.
The photos we retrieved from the base lab (two rolls of 35 mm) were
apparently over exposed.

CLAUDE POHER
Bonjour, I am Dr Claude POHER, retired astrophysicist and space
research engineer from the National Center for Space Studies, the
French equivalent of NASA. I was the founder of the GEPAN, the Group
for the Study of Unidentified Aerospace Phenomena, which was an
official agency devoted to the study of UFO observation reports, and
which remains active today, under the name GEIPAN.
I first learned about the existence of official US UFO reports early
in the sixties, from Dr J. Allen Hynek, the well known astronomical
consultant to the US Air Force?s Project Blue Book. I then began to
investigate official French UFO reports, and to undertake scientific
analyses of the data.
I received approval from CNES to create and direct the GEPAN about 15
years later, in 1977. I trained our first investigators, teaching them
how to conduct official investigations into the different kinds of
reports, from lights in the sky to landings with physical evidence and
observations of occupants.
We had an independent scientific steering committee. This committee
recommended that we continue to pursue this work during the two years
of my direction.
For example, I trained our investigators on the case of CUSSAC, where,
in August 1967, two young witnesses were alerted by the agitation of
dozens of frightened farm animals at around noon. The witnesses then
observed a landed spherical UFO at a distance of 80 yards, with four
occupants near it.
Very high luminosity was reported after slow takeoff, leaving
physiological effects on the witnesses eyes that were confirmed by the
village mayor. The ?hiss? noise described by the two witnesses was
also heard by the hunting guard of the village. The UFO acceleration
after vertical takeoff was estimated to be about a hundred g?s by
GEPAN experts. The occupants were seen floating in the air while
entering the craft, from its top, in a hurry.
Physical traces on the ground from the craft were confirmed by the
local police, as well as a sulfur oxide odor. CNES experts in
meteorology and space debris worked in the field with the witnesses,
along with a Juge, a psychologist, an optical engineer and
aeronautical engineer. They had full measuring equipment and worked
with the police as well.
The official conclusion of GEPAN in 1979, was that about 15% of cases
remained unidentified after careful analysis by our experts. We
concluded that the objects, in most of these cases, were compatible
with flying machines whose flight physics were foreign to the experts?
knowledge.
What I have stated is about the past. Now there are some recent
experimental facts, in direct relation to my GEPAN and UFO
investigation involvement, that I believe are of great importance for
our future, and for the way you should now handle UFO observations in
the USA.
After I left the GEPAN but remained at CNES, I continued to work on
the UFO subject in the domain of theoretical physics. Last April, the
physical theory about gravitation and inertia I was working on since
1980, was successfully tested in the laboratory.
Effectively, I patented and tested devices able to reproduce, in the
laboratory, the causes of the strange effects that are described in
UFO observation reports. I am talking about such effects as tremendous
accelerations, sharp turns, sudden stops, powerful emission of light,
silent supersonic speed, etc ?
These experimental results are currently open to be demonstrated, in
my laboratory in Toulouse, for qualified scientists, scientific
journalists and industrial representatives, including those from the USA.
Thanks for your attention.

NICK POPE
My name is Nick Pope, formerly with the British Ministry of Defence.
Since 1950 the British Government has received over 10,000 UFO
reports. Responsibility for this subject rests with the Ministry of
Defense, whose remit is to look for evidence of any potential threat
to the UK, or anything else of any "defense significance". From 1991
to 1994 I was the desk officer responsible for these investigations.
Most UFO sightings turned out to be misidentifications of things such
as aircraft, satellites and meteors, but in around 5 per cent of cases
no explanation could be found. These cases include incidents where
reliable witnesses such as police officers and pilots reported
structured craft performing speeds and maneuvers significantly in
excess of anything they had seen military jet aircraft perform. Other
cases included in this category involved UFOs tracked on radar and
incidents where photos or videos were produced and where the MoD's
technical experts found no evidence of fakery.
The MoD takes no position on the nature of the UFO phenomenon but I
and some of my colleagues were privately convinced that whatever was
going on, there were important defense, national security and flight
safety issues involved.
In March 1993 I investigated a case where a UFO was seen by about 60
witnesses, including military personnel at two air force bases.
Witnesses included a patrol of air force police, together with a
meteorological officer with 8 years experience. This latter witness
described a triangular-shaped craft midway in size between a C-130 and
a Boeing 747. He said that it was emitting a low frequency humming
sound and he said it moved slowly at first, before accelerating away
many times faster than a military jet. My Head of Division's brief to
the Assistant Chief of the Air Staff concluded "In summary, there
would seem to be some evidence on this occasion that an unidentified
object (or objects) of unknown origin was operating over the UK". The
case file - published on the MoD website - also mentions related
enquiries from the US authorities, asking if the UK had a black
programme that might explain some UFO sightings involving large
triangular-shaped craft. That's interesting, given the US government's
public position that UFOs are no longer investigated.
Britain's best known UFO sighting occurred in 1980 and involved USAF
personnel from two military bases in the UK. There were multiple
witnesses and an object was seen to land in a place called Rendlesham
Forest. A Geiger counter was used to take radiation readings at the
landing site and the assessment undertaken by the MoD's Defence
Intelligence Staff stated that the levels recorded seemed
"significantly higher than the average background". We are fortunate
to have two of the witnesses to these events here today and I should
like to hand over to one of them now, so that he can give you the
specifics.
Thank you.

RAY BOWER
Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen and thank you for coming today. My
name is Ray Bowyer and I fly a civilian airliner as Captain. I have
been invited here due to my sighting last April of multiple as yet
unidentified objects over the Channel Islands region of the English
Channel. This encounter lasted for 15 minutes with the first object
being visible from 55 miles distant.
On nearing the object a second identical shape appeared beyond the
first. Both objects were of a flattened disk shape with a dark area to
the right side. They were brilliant yellow with light emanating from
them. I estimated them to be up to a mile across.
I found myself astounded but curious. But at 12 miles distant these
objects were becoming uncomfortably large, and I was glad to descend
and land the aircraft.
Many of my passengers saw the objects as did the pilot of another
aircraft 25 miles further south. There is also possible radar
information still being investigated.
A team headed by Dr. David Clarke looking at this case will shortly
publish a report but I understand that at this time no definitive
solution has been discovered to explain the sighting.
I have taken note of the differences between the British and U.S.
reporting system. It appears that attitudes on opposite sides of the
Atlantic Ocean are very different when it comes to the required
reporting and recording of this type of event.
Air Law stipulates quite clearly that if an operating crew of an
aircraft see another aircraft in a place that it should not be, then
at the earliest opportunity the whole scenario is to be reported to
the relevant authority. In my case the British Civil Aviation
Authority knew within 20 minutes of the sighting what was seen, as
described in the flight log faxed directly to the relevant CAA office.
The military were informed by Jersey Air Traffic Control at the same
time. This is not an option; it is an obligation that crews react in
this manner.
In my experience, having reported the incident as required has had no
negative effect. And there was no problem with me talking about it on
British television. Indeed, my company Aurigny Air Services have
offered every support to date. The assistance of Jersey ATC in
releasing recorded information to myself and the investigating team
has been a great benefit. I did not feel that I was in any danger of
being ridiculed, because all I did was report what actually happened,
as was my duty.
I heard about the multiple witness sighting at Chicago O?Hare Airport
? a year ago, on November 7, 2006. I was surprised to hear how this
was handled. Despite many pilots and airport personnel witnessing the
object hovering over the terminal, there was no investigation by the
FAA. It appears that pressure may have been applied to crew members by
their company not to discuss this incident.
These witnesses were afraid to talk about what they saw, due to
concerns about job security. The FAA told the witnesses that what they
saw was actually not what they saw ? but that it was simply weather.
I would have been shocked if I was told that the CAA would obstruct an
investigation, or if the CAA told me that what I had seen was
something entirely different. But it seems that pilots in America are
used to this kind of thing, as far as I can tell.
I would urge all aircrew to report whatever they see as soon as
possible, and to stand up and be counted. It is only when crucial
witnesses such as professional pilots make reports that the
authorities will be kick-started into a broader investigation of these
phenomena.

JEAN-CLAUDE RIBES
My name is Jean-Claude Ribes and I am an astronomer, working for the
French Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique from 1963 to 1998.
I contributed to the French COMETA report, a three year military study
on UFOs and National Security released in 1999, and more recently to
the book ?Phenomenes aerospatiaux non identifies,? under the direction
of Yves Sillard, chairman of the Steering Committee of GEIPAN. He
asked me to represent him and GEIPAN here today. General Denis Letty,
chairman of the COMETA group, also asked me to represent him here,
because he was unable to attend.
The COMETA report was written mainly by high ranking military people
from the French High Studies Institute for National Defence. It
analyzes the possible explanations for UFOs and their implications in
terms of Defence, with the extraterrestrial hypothesis presented as
the most logical one, even if not formally proven. Some
recommendations are made, including that all managers of the Army,
Police, Politics, and pilots be informed about UFOs; that detection
systems be modified to take UFOs into account; and that the French
government contact the United States and other allied countries to
initiate cooperative action on the subject. So far, these
recommendations have not been implemented.
However, last March, my country took a big step forward. Jacques
Patenet, current director of GEIPAN, released the French UFO files to
the public. They were posted on a website - more than 1,600 sightings
spanning five decades. Some cases involved multiple sightings and
physical evidence such as burn marks and radar trackings. Others
documented UFOs with flight patterns or accelerations defying the laws
of physics. M. Patenet told the press at the time that "We do not have
any proof at all that extra-terrestrials are behind the unexplained
phenomena. Nor do we have any proof at all that they aren't.?
GEIPAN?s Steering Committee plays an important role, with
representatives from the Army, Police, Civil Aviation, Meteorology and
the scientific community. This Committee insures the best conditions
for gathering reports by instructing the agencies involved in
investigations, and by protecting any witnesses who request anonymity
for fear of ridicule.
My personal opinion is that UFOs should be taken seriously and studied
without prejudice. There may be several possible explanations, such as
rare atmospheric phenomena, but some cases strongly suggest actual
flying machines with characteristics well beyond our terrestrial
capacities. If these cases could be completely proven as such, then
the extraterrestrial hypothesis would probably be the most likely
explanation for these advanced craft. Admittedly, it is a fantastic
possibility, but not an irrational one, given the data that we have.

OSCAR SANTA MARÍA HUERTAS
I am Oscar Santa Maria Huertas, official pilot of the Peruvian Air
Force, currently retired.
On April 11, 1980, at 7:15 in the morning, 1800 men were in formation
at the Air Base of La Joya, Arequipa.
They all observed a stationary object in the sky which looked like a
balloon, at about three miles distance, and approximately 1,800 feet
altitude. It was luminous because it reflected the sun.
My unit commander ordered me to takeoff in my Sukoi -22 jet to shoot
down the spherical object. It was in restricted airspace, without
clearance, and we were concerned about espionage.
I approached the object and strafed sixty-four 30mm shells at it. Some
projectiles went towards the ground, and others hit the object fully,
but they had no effect at all. The projectiles didn?t bounce off;
probably they were absorbed. The cone-shaped ?wall of fire? that I
sent out would normally obliterate anything in its path .
The object then began to ascend, and move farther away from the base.
When I was at about 36,000 ft., it made a sudden stop, forcing me to
veer to the side since I was only 1500 feet away. I flew up higher to
attack it from above, but just as I had locked on to the target and
was ready to shoot, the object made a straight vertical climb evading
the attack.
Two more times I had the object on target, when the object was
stationary. Each time, it moved away at the very last minute, when I
was just about to fire, always eluding my attack.
I decided to climb at full thrust to get above the object, but it
began to ascend almost parallel to my plane, and when I reached 63,000
ft., it stopped.
At this point, I came to within about 300 feet of the UFO. It was
about 30 feet in diameter. It was an enamelled, cream-colored dome,
with a wide, circular, metallic base. It had no engines, no exhausts,
no windows, no wings or antennae. It lacked all the typical aircraft
components, with no visible propulsion system.
It was at that moment that I realized this it was not a spying device,
but that it was a UFO, something totally unknown. I was almost out of
fuel, so I couldn?t attack or maneuver my plane, or make a high speed
escape. I was afraid. I thought I might be finished.
When I had calmed own, I radioed for another plane to come and have a
look, trying to hide my fear. They said no, it?s too high, just come
back. I had to glide part way down due to lack of fuel, zigzagging to
make my plane harder to hit, always with my eyes on the rearview
mirrors hoping it wouldn?t chase me. It didn?t.
I had spent 22 minutes maneuvering with this object. After I landed,
the object remained stationary in the sky for two hours, for everyone
at the base to see.
A US Department of Defense document titled ?UFO Sighted in Peru?
described the incident, stating that the vehicle?s origin remains unknown.
It still gives me chills to think about it.
Oscar Alfonso Santa María Huertas
DNI: 40315515

FIFE SYMINGTON
In 1997, during my second term as Governor of Arizona, I saw something
that defied logic and challenged my reality. I witnessed a massive
delta-shaped craft silently navigating over the Squaw Peak, Mountain
Preserve in Phoenix, Arizona. It was truly breathtaking.
To my astonishment this apparition appeared, and it was a solid
structure; dramatically large with a very distinctive leading edge
including embedded lights. It was traveling through the Arizona sky. I
still don?t know what it was. As a pilot and a former Air Force
Officer, I can definitively say that this craft did not resemble any
man made object I'd ever seen. And it was certainly not high-altitude
flares because flares don't fly in formation. The incident was
witnessed by hundreds, if not thousands of people in Arizona and my
office was besieged with phone calls from very concerned Arizonians.
The growing hysteria intensified when the story broke nationally. I
decided to lighten the mood of the state by calling a press conference
where my chief of staff arrived in an alien costume. We managed to
lessen the sense of panic but at the same time, upset many of my
constituents. I would now like to set the record straight. I never
meant to ridicule anyone. My office did make inquiries as to the
origin of the craft, but to this day, they remain unanswered.
Eventually the Air National Guard claimed responsibility stating that
their pilots were dropping flares. This is indicative of the attitude
from official channels. We get explanations that fly in the face of
the facts. Explanations like weather balloons, swamp gas and military
flares. I was never happy with this silly explanation. There might
very well have been military flares in the sky later that evening, but
what I and hundreds of others saw had nothing to do with that.
I now know that I am not alone in witnessing something extraordinary.
There are many high ranking military, aviation and government
officials who share my concerns; some of them have joined me here
today. There is absolutely no doubt as to the veracity of what these
men have told you. They have fought in wars, guarded top secret
weapons arsenals and flown countless passengers throughout the world?s
skies.
Incidents like these are not going away. One year ago, Chicago's
O'Hare airport experienced a UFO event that made national and
international headlines. Pilots and many other airline employees
observed a metallic disc hovering over the United Airlines terminal
for several minutes. It then shot straight up and cut a hole in the
clouds. The FAA did not investigate, dismissing the sighting as ?weather.?
We want the US government to stop perpetuating the myth that ALL UFOs
can be explained away in down-to-earth, conventional terms. Instead,
our country needs to re-open its official investigation that it shut
down in 1969. The US government can no longer shun an international
dialogue about this, and we invite the government to work in
cooperation with the countries represented at this table.
When it comes to events of this nature dealing with the great unknown,
we deserve more openness and a serious pursuit of the facts by our
government.

International Declaration to the United States Government
Facilitated by the Coalition for Freedom of Information
November 12, 2007
Preamble:
We, the signatories below, with backgrounds and careers in government,
aviation, or the military, hereby present this declaration as a result
of our common experience and purpose. While on active duty, each of us
has either been a witness to an incident involving an unidentified
flying object or has conducted an official investigation into UFO
cases relevant to aviation safety, national security, or for the
benefit of science.
We use the term ?unidentified flying objects? (UFOs) simply to mean
any airborne phenomena that cannot be identified or explained, a
definition first used by the U.S. Air Force in the 1950?s. We make no
claim as to the nature or origin of these objects.
While most UFO sightings can be explained as misidentifications of
known objects or natural phenomena, those governments that have
studied them, including some with which these signatories have been on
staff, have consistently found that a small percentage of sightings
defy conventional explanation. Reports of these incidents often
involve credible witnesses such as police officers, military
personnel, pilots and air traffic controllers, and include solid,
official documentation.
Therefore:
We believe that for reasons of both national security and flight
safety, every country should make an effort to identify any object in
its airspace. Especially after the attacks of 9/11 it is no longer
satisfactory to ignore radar returns for which no transponder data are
available and/or which cannot be associated with performances of
existing aircraft and helicopters. While civil aviation radars and air
traffic controllers mainly rely on secondary radar, military air
defense radars should be configured such as to detect and track any
object in the air, even when static or operating at very slow or very
high speeds.
In this regard, we refer to the incident that occurred at O?Hare
International Airport in November, 2006 when a metallic disc was
observed hovering over the United Airlines terminal for several
minutes. Since it was not detected on radar, the Federal Aviation
Administration declined to investigate. The FAA also did not accept
the many corroborating reports from United Airlines pilots and other
personnel at face value, dismissing the sighting as ?weather.? We
suggest that prejudice against the term 'UFO' and against reports of
unknowns could lead officials to dismiss sightings that involve
unconventional aircraft or unmanned aerial vehicles engaged in
espionage or terrorist activity, especially when radar returns are not
available.
However, important sightings have also been ignored when radar is not
a factor. Even though hundreds of citizens witnessed a massive
triangular object traveling over Arizona in 1997, the U.S. government
ignored inquiries from state officials about the incident, and never
offered the public any explanation about this invasion of US airspace
by a strange, unknown flying machine. We believe this kind of
disengagement represents both a missed opportunity and a potential risk.
We maintain that a restive, concerned public has the right to be
informed of the facts about UFO incidents that are well-documented and
involve multiple witnesses. In addition, science lacks potentially
important knowledge that may be gained by the study of these events
involving objects demonstrating speeds, maneuvers or other
characteristics that challenge our current scientific paradigm.
Call-to-Action:
We, the undersigned, ask the United States to join in cooperation with
those governments which, recognizing the reality of unidentified
flying objects and related aviation safety concerns, have already set
up their own investigative agencies. Following in the footsteps of its
now defunct Project Blue Book, we propose that the United States Air
Force reopen its research effort, or that the National Aeronautics and
Space Administration initiate such a research effort, to address the
international concerns stated herein, provide needed reassurance and
increase scientific understanding.
We call on the United States of America to engage with us and with
currently active officials around the world to address this problem in
an ongoing dialogue, beginning with the gathering of some of the
signatories below in Washington, DC on this 12th of November, 2007.
Signed,
Vasily Alexeyev - Major General, Russian Air Force, Space
Communications Center in Russia
Ricardo Bermudez S. - General, Brigada Aérea (Ret.); Former President
of the CEFAA, Chile
Ray Bowyer - Captain, Aurigny Air Services, Channel Islands, UK
Wilfried De Brouwer - Major General, Deputy Chief of Staff Operations
and Planning (Ret.)
Belgian Air Force
John Callahan - Division Chief of Accidents, Evaluations and
Investigations, FAA (Ret.)
Don C. Donderi, Ph.D. - McGill University; Contract Researcher, Dept.
of National Defence, Canada
Julio Cesar Chamorro Flores - Comandante Peruvian Air Force (Ret.);
Founder of the OIFAA, 2001
Rodrigo Bravo Garrido - Officer Chilean Army, Military Pilot,
Associate with CEFAA
Richard F. Haines, Ph.D. - Sr. NASA Research Scientist (Ret.)
Charles I. Halt - Col. USAF (Ret.), Former Director, Inspections
Directorate, DOD I.G.
Parviz Jafari ? General, Iranian Air Force (Ret)
Denis Letty - Major General, French Air Force (Ret.); Chairman of COMETA
Oscar Santa Maria - Commander and Fighter Pilot of the Peruvian Air
Force (Ret).
Anthony Choy Montes - Lawyer, researcher with the OIFAA, Peruvian Air
Force, 2001-2003
James Penniston ? TSgt, US Air Force (Ret.)
Nick Pope - Ministry of Defence, UK, 1985-2006
Jean-Claude Ribes - Astronomer, Centre National de la Recherche
Scientifique, France, 1963-1998
Yves Sillard - Chair of the Steering Committee, GEIPAN in France
Fife Symington III - Governor of Arizona, 1991-1997
Contact: Leslie Kean
www.freedomofinfo.org
======================
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#19484 From: etinvestigator1984@...
Date: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:06 pm
Subject: Thoughts On Aliens
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Thoughts on Aliens

Our frustration with..."now we see Them... now we don't" is seated in
human reasoning simply because we are human.

To perhaps better understand alien behavior one must try to think as
aliens think..not easy, but it can be done to some extent as one gathers
evidence and gradually puts the pieces of the puzzle together through
reflection, deduction, and ultimately conclusion.

As far as the Human Race is concerned this planet is owned and operated
by aliens..and why not..top dog always runs the show...that's just the
way things are.

For example: I suspect that the entire matter of Christ from conception
to resurrection was alien orchestrated and see how effective that has
been. Aliens do things for reasons because they know what the results
will be.

Evidence clearly shows that the manipulation of humans is child's play
for them.  I suspect that they are old hands at this and do it elsewhere
within the galaxy as well.  The mere presence of "examination rooms" as
described so often by abductees surely suggests that this is the case.

The Dulce Book is very thought prevoking and should be taken seriously
and carefully considered.

Thoughtfull input regarding any of the above would be welcome.

Submitted by Fred Dennis



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#19487 From: "margaretshrt" <margaretshrt@...>
Date: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: Thoughts On Aliens
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Fred -

Good to see you posting on this list again!  Perhaps we can get some
lively discussions going!!

Peggi

--- In ufonet@yahoogroups.com, etinvestigator1984@... wrote:
>
> Thoughts on Aliens
>
> Our frustration with..."now we see Them... now we don't" is seated
in
> human reasoning simply because we are human.
>
> To perhaps better understand alien behavior one must try to think as
> aliens think..not easy, but it can be done to some extent as one
gathers
> evidence and gradually puts the pieces of the puzzle together
through
> reflection, deduction, and ultimately conclusion.
>
> As far as the Human Race is concerned this planet is owned and
operated
> by aliens..and why not..top dog always runs the show...that's just
the
> way things are.
>
> For example: I suspect that the entire matter of Christ from
conception
> to resurrection was alien orchestrated and see how effective that
has
> been. Aliens do things for reasons because they know what the
results
> will be.
>
> Evidence clearly shows that the manipulation of humans is child's
play
> for them.  I suspect that they are old hands at this and do it
elsewhere
> within the galaxy as well.  The mere presence of "examination
rooms" as
> described so often by abductees surely suggests that this is the
case.
>
> The Dulce Book is very thought prevoking and should be taken
seriously
> and carefully considered.
>
> Thoughtfull input regarding any of the above would be welcome.
>
> Submitted by Fred Dennis
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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