This list is to discuss ufos and ETS in all aspects of experience. Lists tend to lean in particular directions and stifle people who have experiences and/or opinions which differ from their own. This leads to arguing, anger, bickering, being kicked off or quitting. Experience is fuller than just sightings and abductions with physical examinations. We find that dreams, telepathic messages, and good relationships with certain ETs can also be valid as well as cattle mutilations, crop circles, reptilian rapes, etc. If you find yourself disagreeing with a particular thread, feel free to use your delete key and read those posts which fit into your own thought pattern which you find more palatable. Part of the point of this discussion is the hope of learning the broader picture rather than just our own personal experience. To do this, it is wiser to look at other view points than our own. History shows us that the popular viewpoint or concensus is not necessarily the true fact and is found later to be incorrect.