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#12849 From: "Steven White" <goodforyou2012@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 10:32 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: *EXCLUSIVE* GREAT FOOTAGE BY NASA OF 2 UFOS EMERGING FROM EARTH AND V...
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Sounds like it could be Faked.......The audio used was taken from this video
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRBo15xjobk
And used in this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTs10OK5Yg actually
NASA would never have let this video out.

Steven


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Date: 12/2/2009 1:04:52 PM
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Subject: [ufos-unbound] Re: Fw: *EXCLUSIVE* GREAT FOOTAGE BY NASA OF 2 UFOS
EMERGING FROM EARTH AND V...




In a message dated 12/2/2009 9:00:54 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTs10OK5Yg

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#12848 From: dee777@...
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: *EXCLUSIVE* GREAT FOOTAGE BY NASA OF 2 UFOS EMERGING FROM EARTH AND V...
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In a message dated 12/2/2009 9:00:54 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTs10OK5Yg




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#12847 From: "Dex" <dexxxaa@...>
Date: Wed Dec 2, 2009 6:38 pm
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(Note: A good one Shady. Apparently, these secret organizations are far more
extensive than most of us realize. I appreciate immensely being informed about
them...I mostly receive these notices by my ET and non-physical
handlers...whoever they are?...What's become even more interesting with contact
over drafting all these earthly scenario's I've sensed from them is, that the
Holy Spirit of the Living Light Creation seems the Central Theme all of us
should concern ourselves' with. Whatever path we walk keep in mind the
importance for learning the way that liberate's us from these bondage's. At
least  that's impression I believe is being conveyed to me...Dex)

Neruda Interviews
Introduction

http://www.wingmakers.com/interviews.html

The interviews contained in this section of the WingMakers' website are
transcripts taken from a series of interviews between Dr. Neruda (the defected
ACIO scientist) and Sarah the journalist he contacted shortly after his
defection. These interviews provide provocative insights into the Advance
Contact Intelligence Organization (ACIO) - the secret government organization
responsible for reverse-engineering acquired extraterrestrial technologies.

The Neruda Interviews also provide remarkable insight into a wide variety of
topics, including the human genome, secret societies, new physics, cosmology,
extraterrestrial influence on earth, and the spiritual nature and purpose of
humankind. The interviews are recorded and then transcribed by Sarah exactly as
they occurred. These are the original files. It is recommended to read them in
the order they were recorded.

There are .PDF file versions of the Neruda Interviews in both standard format
and large font format available for free in the download section.

The Neruda Interviews contain a wealth of information which goes far beyond the
Ancient Arrow Project novel itself. Accessing that information is not easy. With
over 1300 entries, the Neruda Index (created by John Berges) seeks to remedy
that problem by organizing the hundreds of diverse topics discussed by Dr.
Neruda in his interviews with Sarah. You can download the Neruda Interview Index
in an Adobe Acrobat file here.


Some terms for clearification for those that are unware of the Wingmaker
material

Fifteen is Humanities representative to ETs and chairmen of the Labyrith Group
(a Majestic 12 like organization) that deals with the ET's. Fifteen is
supposedly a genius plus has been altered by surpressed techonologies to enhance
his/her intelligence. Now akin to a "Superbrain"

The Labyrinth Group is a Elitest Think Tank comprised by the top eggheads of our
Society who over see ET Human interaction and Human Development.

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NOTE THE MANY INTERESTING PARALLELS BETWEEN THE DAN BURISCH MATERIAL AND THE
WINGMAKERS MATERIAL.

AN EXCERPT FROM THE FULL INTERVIEWS IVE PUT INTO BOLD A FEW KEY POINTS
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Sarah: On to something else. You said earlier that certain technologies like
LERM and BST werent allowed to be used for personal gain by members of the
Labyrinth Group. Yet, if BST did exist, wouldnt everyone line up and ask to use
it? I know I would. Therere a lot of events in my life Id change if I could.
Once the cats out of the bag, how could BST ever be kept under wraps?

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Dr. Neruda:
Like everything, there are implications and moral and ethical considerations
that have to be weighed. One of the things that Fifteen and more generally the
Labyrinth Group is good at, is to consider these implications in the broader
scope of the social order. Fifteen, from an early age, always felt that the
technologies of BST and LERM would only be granted to those organizations that
would properly honor the ethical considerations that were required by the
technology itself.
This is one of the fundamental charters of the Labyrinth Group, and all of its
members take it very seriously. As a new technology is being developed, there
are always members of the team who are concerned with the ethical implications
of the technology and are responsible for usage guidelines and deployment rules.
This is an integral part of any projects development.

Sarah: Thats good to hear, but couldnt such a charter also be used to prevent
the spread of these technologies to a broader audience?

Dr. Neruda:
Unquestionably. A technology like BST  once developed and tested  could, in
time, become a consumer technology. But as long as the Labyrinth Group exists,
it would protect BST from any and all outside forces. Within the Labyrinth Group
there is a committee called the Technology Transfer Program or TTP Committee.
This committee has two missions, one, to assess the incoming technologies that
are assimilated from ETs, and two, theyre responsible for which technologies
and in what state of dilution theyre transferred to our private industry
partners, NSA, or the military.

The TTP Committee is in control of the pure-state technologies that are
developed by the Labyrinth Group. These pure-state technologies are virtually
never transferred to outside organizations. Even those staff members in the ACIO
who are not part of the Labyrinth Group are unaware of these pure-state
technologies, and when 

Sarah: But if I place these interview transcripts on the Internet or some media
publication picks up this story, more than just the ACIO staff members are going
to know about this stuff. Isnt this going to screw up the Labyrinth Groups
cloak of secrecy?

Dr. Neruda: No. The Labyrinth Group is more than a secret organization. For all
practical purposes, it doesnt exist. The ACIO doesnt exist. No one will be
able to trace the ACIO let alone the Labyrinth Group. Their security
technologies are so vastly superior they are completely invulnerable in this
regard. Nothing I say, or you publish, will make them more vulnerable. As I said
before, their only concern will be the precedent of my defection and how it
could create more defections over time.

Sarah: Why, why would anyone want to leave I mean I understand your case you
didnt want your memories changed or removed. But they dont commonly do that do
they?

Dr. Neruda:
Not often, but Im certainly not the first to be targeted to undergo memory
implant sessions or other forms of invasive security measures. Theyre all part
of the culture of the Labyrinth Group and the ACIO. Everyone who enters either
of those worlds understands what they must subject themselves to. Its very
clear why the paranoia must be part of the culture. But over time, certain
individuals find it suffocating. And these individuals are the ones who are most
at risk to see my defection as a reason for their own.

I may be entirely wrong about this, but I believe there are ten to twenty
individuals who would leave the ACIO or even the Labyrinth Group if they were
given the choice without repercussions.

Sarah: But I thought you said last night that these people were in love with
their jobs because of the special access to technologies and research labs that
were so advanced to anything else available? If thats the case, what would they
do in normal society?

Dr. Neruda: Ill find out. Ill be the first to experience normal society as a
normal person.

Sarah: Well, at least you wont have any problem getting a job what am I
saying, you wont even need to work. I forgot, you can make your own money out
of thin air.

Dr. Neruda: Youd be surprised to know that I live a pretty simple life. I own
a 92 Honda Accord and live in a modest three-bedroom home in a suburban
neighborhood of modest homes

Sarah:
Youre kidding?

Dr. Neruda: No.

Sarah:
You make $400,000 a year tax free and and have a money tree in your mind, and
you live like I do? If you dont mind my asking, what do you do with all your
money?

Dr. Neruda: I have blind trusts.

Sarah: Are all the Labyrinth Group members like you?

Dr. Neruda: You mean in regard to money and possessions?

Sarah: Yes.

Dr. Neruda:
Most live at a higher standard of living than I do, but it is part of our
culture to live modestly and none of the members live a pretentious lifestyle.
Fifteen pays people what theyre worth, not because he wants them to throw money
around and live flamboyantly. Hes a big believer in this, and he himself, even
more than I, lives humbly.

Sarah: I find this really hard to believe. I think of just about everything
youve told me so far, this is one of the hardest things to believe. Im totally
baffled here

Dr. Neruda:
I can appreciate that, but what Im telling you is the truth.
Initially, the way new people are recruited to join the ACIO is largely because
of the monetary incentives. These are extremely bright and capable people and
could easily secure positions in academia or private industry making $200,000
per year, and more. The ACIO lures them by at least doubling their salary and
offering them lifetime employment contracts. But those who ultimately earn the
right to enter the twelfth level are then inducted into the Labyrinth Group, and
by the time an individual has risen to this status, money has become
increasingly unimportant particularly after the Corteum intelligence
accelerator experience after the LERM experience, its diminished even more.

Youd probably find it interesting that Fifteen lives in a small, three-bedroom
home in a regular community where the average property value is about $250,000.
Thats not much of a house by West Coast standards. His automobile must have at
least 100,000 miles on it, no air conditioning, and hes perfectly content with
his situation. New ACIO recruits are always amazed at Fifteens thrift I think
bewildered is a better way of putting it. But over time, they learn to respect
him not as an eccentric, but as an extremely dedicated genius who simply likes
to live like other people and blend in.

Sarah: Okay Ive got to get personal here, and I know Ive totally betrayed my
agenda, but youve got to tell me a few things about well like, what do your
neighbors think you do?


Dr. Neruda: I dont know my neighbors very well. Ive worked seventy hours per
week since I was eighteen years old. When I socialize, its generally with my
colleagues. Theres very little time for establishing other relationships. But
to answer you question directly, I dont know for sure what they think I do
Ive only told them Im a research scientist for the government. For most people
that settles their curiosity.

Sarah: But what if you met a woman and fell in love. Shed want to know what
you did and how much money you made and so forth what would you tell her?

Dr. Neruda:
I work for a government weather research center. Im a research scientist in
applied chaos theory and I make $85,000 per year.

Sarah: So youd lie?

Dr. Neruda: Its part of the culture of the Labyrinth Group. We cant tell the
truth, and if we did, the vast majority of people would think we were crazy.
Its also why we keep to our own we can tell the truth among ourselves.

Sarah: When I first heard about the ACIO and its secret mission, and that you
were defecting and afraid for your life I thought the ACIO was an evil-minded,
control-the-world type of organization. Then I heard about the kind of money you
all made and I pictured a bunch of intellectual snobs driving bullet-proof
Mercedes Benzes and living in posh mansions and you just dismantled my image.
You completely destroyed it. So why are you so afraid?

Dr. Neruda:
The Labyrinth Group, because of its connection to the ACIO, is still very much
connected to the secret network of organizations who control a great deal of the
worlds monetary and natural resource assets. This network of organizations will
know about my defection the instant these materials Ive given you gain any
visibility in the press or on the Internet. They will know of its authenticity
by simply reading these two interviews. While theres nothing they can do to the
ACIO or the Labyrinth Group, they can make my life difficult to live.

And they will most definitely try. I know all about their technologies and how
they deploy them. I know the people behind these organizations and I know how
they operate. I have knowledge that Ive only shown you a small fraction of. And
this knowledge would make certain individuals  very powerful individuals  very
uncomfortable. Its extremely rare, but when high-level operatives defect,
theyre hunted like dogs until theyre found and disposed of, or, if they serve
an ongoing
purpose, their memories are selectively wiped clean. Its one of the unfortunate
realities of having dealt with these organizations.

Sarah: But you were just a scientist a linguist, for Gods sake. How does that
make you a threat to these secret organizations?

Dr. Neruda:
I was the one that created the underlying encryption technology for their
security system that overlays their predictive modeling software for the worlds
stock exchanges. I may be a simple scientist in your eyes, but my talents for
linguistics is not the only talent I possess. Im also gifted in the field of
encryption. And within the world of economics, Im simply the best. And this
talent was given to certain organizations to help them, and in the process of
doing so, I learned about these organizations and how they operate. It makes me
a security risk.

Sarah: Why? I mean if the ACIO and Labyrinth Group have so much money why work
with these evil groups?

Dr. Neruda: First of all, theyre not evil. These organizations consist of
well-educated elitists whore self-absorbed perhaps, but not evil. They look at
the world as a biological experience where the strong survive, the powerful
thrive, and the secretive control. They like being in control of the experience.
They are the ultimate control freaks, but not for the sake of adoration or
ego-gratification, but for the sake that they genuinely believe theyre the best
at making policy decisions that effect the worlds economy and security.

Dont confuse control with evil intent. Its not necessarily one and the same
thing. Thats the game they choose to play. The fact that they make incredible
sums of money is simply part of the game, but its not the reason they sit in
the drivers seat of the worlds economy they simply want to protect their
lifes agenda like anyone else would. Its just that theyre in the position to
actually do it. They get their security from being at the top of the economic
food-chain.

Sarah: But theyre manipulating people and keeping information from them. If
this isnt evil, what is?

Dr. Neruda:
By your definition, our national government, our local government, virtually
every business and organization, is evil. Everyone manipulates and keeps
information hidden. Governments, organizations, and individuals.

Sarah: Youre twisting my words. Its a matter of degree isnt it? I mean, its
one thing if I dont tell you my true hair color, and its another thing if, as
part of this secret network, I withhold information about how Im manipulating
the world economy. Theyre entirely different in scale. You cant compare them.
I still think its evil when organizations manipulate and control things for
their own gain.

Dr. Neruda: Believe me, I didnt set out to be the defender of these
organizations, but you need to understand this because its important and it may
effect you in the days ahead. This secret network of powerful organizations are
more aligned with the goals of the Labyrinth Group than our worlds governments,
and, in particular, our military leaders. If youre worried about anything, you
would be well advised to worry more about the administration, Congress, and the
Department of Defense not only in the United States, but in every country.

Sarah: How can you say that? Are you saying that our government and military
leaders are trying to cause us harm and these secret, manipulative organizations
are trying to help us?

Dr. Neruda: Im saying that the leadership in the worlds community of nations
is inept, and can be bought with the holy dollar. And that its not the secret
network that Ive been talking about whos manipulating our government and
military leadership to invest huge amounts of money in destructive forces like
nuclear and biological weapons. This, theyre deciding on their own. The secret
organizations that Im pointing the finger at are opposed to these military
build-ups because they interject a degree of uncertainty in their models for
controlling economic and social order.

The politicians and military leaders are the ones whore investing time,
energy, and money in weapons of mass destruction, and these, if there is such a
thing as evil, are it.

Sarah: Okay. I see your point. But you implied that these secret organizations
would try and kill us if we published and distributed all of this? I still dont
see how that makes them so noble. Dr. Neruda: I dont think you have to be
concerned about these secret organizations. You dont know enough to be
dangerous to them. Besides, theyre used to journalists snooping around and
trying to expose them. None have succeeded in any meaningful way. Dozens of
books have been written about them. So theyre not going to bother you. Their
interest will be in me and me alone. Its one of the reasons why Im careful in
what I tell you. I know theyll read these transcripts, as will the NSA, CIA,
ACIO, and the entire Labyrinth Group. Im allowing you to record these
conversations because I know who will hear these exact words, and I want them to
know precisely what I have shared with you, and through you, to others.

Im not making a value judgment as to whether these secret organizations are
noble or not. Im merely pointing out that theyre not the ones wasting huge
sums of money and intellectual capital on weapons of mass destruction. Theyre
significantly more competent to rule than our politicians and military leaders
are. And this is simply my opinion.

Sarah: I still dont get it. If the Labyrinth Group, the ACIO and this secret
network of organizations are all so noble and benevolent, why are you afraid for
your life? And why are they hiding from the public like cockroaches?

Dr. Neruda:
To answer your first question, I fear for my life because I know information
that could cause irreparable harm to a variety of secret organizations though I
have no intention to do so.

Sarah: But simply because you know these things theyll hunt you down and kill
you? Sounds like a nice group to me. Certainly not evil

[size=150]Dr. Neruda:
Remember theyre control freaks. They dont like having anyone loose who could
cause them potential harm. If I wanted to, I could bring them down. I know that
much about their computer algorithms and encryption technologies.

Sarah: But how would you get access to their system. It would seem to me that
youd be placing yourself in great jeopardy if you tried to get into their
system.

Dr. Neruda: I dont need to get into their system to cause them harm, I need to
get into their system to prevent harm. They will invite me into their system.

Sarah: I dont understand

Dr. Neruda:
When I developed the system initially, there were certain time-delayed
algorithms that were scripted to occur at specific times, and if they were not
maintained accordingly, the program would essentially self-destruct. Something
that these organizations cannot afford to happen.

Sarah: Why did they agree to this?

Dr. Neruda:
Its part of the fee that the Labyrinth Group extracts from its clients. More
importantly, it ensures that our technologies  even in their diluted states 
are operated according to our agreement and not misused. I have the access codes
for this system and the maintenance key that will prevent it from crashing. Ive
made certain that Im the only one who has this knowledge.

Sarah: Youre telling me that with all those photographic memories running
around at the Labyrinth Group, that youre the only one who knows the code?

Dr. Neruda: I didnt exactly report the right number when I did my last update
of their system so, yes, Im the only one who knows the correct code. I
designed it that way to ensure my safety

Sarah: But with all the geniuses in the Labyrinth Group, youre telling me that
they cant solve this problem themselves?

Dr. Neruda:
Not without a significant amount of time which is something Fifteen wont
agree to do. Its too wasteful and a major distraction to BST research.

Sarah: Do they already know about this?

Dr. Neruda: Oh, yes. I informed them shortly after I defected.

Sarah: They must have been pissed.

Dr. Neruda: It wasnt a pleasant conversation to put it mildly.

Sarah: I was thinking about all of this sophisticated technology that the
Labyrinth Group has, but I dont understand something. How do you manufacture
it? I assume Intel isnt doing the manufacturing. Right?

Dr. Neruda:
Correct. Theres no one on this planet that can manufacture these technologies.
Theyre all based upon the Corteum technology  which is about 150 generations
ahead of our best computer technologies here on earth. For example, the LERM
project used only one domestic technology in the total array of about 200
different technologies, and it was a relatively insignificant part of the
project

Sarah: What was it?

Dr. Neruda:
Its a derivative of a laser telemetry technology that the ACIO developed about
20 years ago, but it filled the specific needs of the LERM project because it
was based on analog protocols which were required for the application in that
specific part of the experiment.

Sarah: So the Corteum performs all the manufacturing of what the Labyrinth
Group designs. What if the Corteum decide, for whatever reason, not to share
these technologies all of sudden? Wouldnt the Labyrinth Group cease to exist?

Dr. Neruda: Perhaps. But Fifteen is shrewd and hes put certain contingencies
in place to help ensure nothing like that would ever happen. Bear in mind, that
the Corteum are at least as motivated as we are to develop this technology,
perhaps more. They have tremendous respect for Fifteen as well as the other
human contingent of the Labyrinth Group. However, when the Labyrinth Group was
first formed, Fifteen negotiated with the Corteum to share all source code for
the projects that came out of BST research. All base technologies were
replicated in two separate research labs. Theres complete redundancy right down
to the power supplies.

Sarah:
Wont the leaders of these secret organizations try and pressure Fifteen to
find you with their remote viewing technology, cant they find you easily?

Dr. Neruda:
The leaders of these secret organizations well know they have no leverage with
Fifteen. After they read this information, they will know they have even less
leverage. Fifteen and the Labyrinth Group designed and developed all of their
security systems. Every last one. They knew they had to be indebted to the
Labyrinth Group for certain technologies that made them  speaking
metaphorically  invisible. Fifteen cannot be pressured. In fact, its just the
opposite. Fifteen can pressure them, though he never would. To Fifteen, these
organizations simply represent the best alternative to letting our own
governments take control of the economic engines and social order of the world
infrastructure. Hence, he sympathizes with them and tries to help them to the
extent he can afford the time and energy.

Sarah:
So how will you hide from them?

Dr. Neruda:
As I told you before, I began to systematically disentangle myself from the
ACIOs invasive security precautions, which include electronic sensors implanted
underneath the skin in the back of the neck. I effectively stripped myself of
these devices so Id have a chance of remaining underground until a reasonable
solution could be negotiated.

Sarah:
But you said they had RV technology that can locate you. What about this?

Dr. Neruda:
Theres little doubt that they will try this, but its not an exact science. An
RV could see this room, but not have a clue as to how to find it. They might be
able to key in on a particular object  like that clock, for example  but
unless it was the only clock of its kind and they could trace its location, it
wouldnt help them.

Sarah:
Is there anything I should be worried about, then?

Dr. Neruda:
I think we need to move around a bit, and vary our meeting time and place. We
should conduct the next interview in a new environment  perhaps outdoors.
Something generic without landmarks.

Sarah:
So they cant read my street sign and then look at my houses address  I mean
if they were doing an RV session right now?

Dr. Neruda:
They would try, and its possible theyd be successful, but not likely.

Sarah:
I suddenly got very nervous. Youre not making me feel comfortable with this.

Dr. Neruda:
I can only be honest.

Sarah:
What would they do with me and my daughter if they found us?

Dr. Neruda:
I think you could assume that theyd perform an MRP of the entire experience of
meeting me.

Sarah:
They wouldnt kill us? Page 49

Dr. Neruda:
I dont think so. Fifteen doesnt resort to violence unless its absolutely
necessary.

Sarah:
Shit. I wish I knew about this before I agreed to get my daughter and I
involved. Just tell me one thing; do you know when theyre doing an RV session?
I mean, can you feel it or anything?

Dr. Neruda:
I can sense it, but its not something thats absolute.

Sarah:
Is there any defense against it?

Dr. Neruda:
None.

Sarah:
So all we do is hope that their damn RV is incompetent?

Dr. Neruda:
Ill only stay for short periods of time, and itll be late at night when
theyre far less likely to perform an RV session. Itd be a good practice to
vary our meeting place, as I suggested before. Other than that, I dont what
more we can do.

Sarah:
I assume theres nothing the police or FBI could do to help?

Dr. Neruda:
Nothing that Im interested in.

Sarah:
But what will you do to protect yourself?

Dr. Neruda: As you can imagine,
Sarah, theres certain information I cant share with you given the nature of
these interviews. This is one instance I cant tell you more than I already
have.

Sarah: Im feeling the need to bring this session to an end. My mind is quite
literally filled to the brim. I think if you told me anything profound right
now, itd just go in one ear and out the other. Can we meet again on Tuesday and
perhaps pick-up where we left off tonight?


Dr. Neruda: Yes, thats fine with my schedule. Sarah: Okay. Signing off for
tonight.
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#12846 From: nathaniel x vance <broali4xa@...>
Date: Tue Dec 1, 2009 4:59 pm
Subject: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
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What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is portraying,
instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn scientists
alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently clamoring like a crying
3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the case? However today, their
misguided though profitable thesis is slowly screeching to an ignominious halt,
and rightly so.
Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in some contorted
way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the supposed greenhouse gas
CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all the present earth change
anomalies, then what in the heavens will be next?
Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable explanation,
albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find the real
answer to this mystery – “What is really causing so-call CLIMATE CHANGE?
Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the present earth
changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka Planet X!

From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)   <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm> 
[Questioner]  Big scandal this week called "Climategate". Thousands of
scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were rigged, have
been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the story and why are
the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
-
[Zeta Response]   Global Warming, as we have long stated, is not the cause of
the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to explain many of the
anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media and the supposed
scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming was evident and
undeniable. Since most people in power in the establishment are aware that there
is a presence in our inner solar system likely to pass at some point, and since
the establishment has the opinion that panic in the masses is the thing to fear,
they pressed all those under their control to go along with this cover-up story.
It is no secret that under Bush, scientists were told what to say, ordered to
toe the line. The media is controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial
goat to tout the line, knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now
that a leak has been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
and not sure how
  to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might be, if
excuses can suffice.
*
_________________________________________________
Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM>  Al Gore confronted on Climategate
in Chicago
-
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate Bombshell:
Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to “HIDE” the real data
on so-call manmade climate change!
-
<http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000-scienti\
sts-disagree/> Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientists disagree that
global warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
 -
<http://www.petitionproject.org>  31,486 scientists signed a petition verifying
that global warming is nothing but a hoax!




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#12845 From: nathaniel x vance <broali4xa@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:06 pm
Subject: UFOs or Hoaxes? [11-30-09]
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UFOs or Hoaxes? [11-30-09]
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXNI15zPYM&feature=player_embedded>
Nov. 19, 2009-White Pine Nevada UFO NewsVideo Report
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Monster Fireballs
(Bible: There will be signs in the sky even though the US Media is NOT reporting
them!)
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<http://www.bashewa.com/meteor-showers-21-Nov-2009.php?PHPSESSID=8371d77ff490470\
dfbca6a68f6a3defa>
 11-21-09: Monster Fireball explodes over Johannesburg South Africa
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<http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8714738> Monster terawatt meteor
11-18-09: Meteor lights up early morning sky, alarms Utah
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<http://weblogs.marylandweather.com/2009/11/western_fireball_may_have_been.html>
11-18-09: Brilliant meteor startled residents across parts of Idaho and northern
Utah
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<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeQBzTkJNhs&videos=jkRJgbXY-90>
10-08-09 : Indonesia fireballs
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<http://fireball.meteorite.free.fr/index_en.html> Fireball video
________________________________________________________________________________\
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ZetaTalk Comment 11/21/2009: When the debris from the tail of Planet X first
started arriving in ernest, in 2004, the establishment chose to call this space
junk. When the public became alarmed at the amount of space junk falling to
Earth they tried to enhance the story by claiming that two satellites had
crashed into each other, but this just made a bad story worse. Since fireballs
have not gone away, but continued apace and if anything gotten worse, a new term
has been used - asteroids. This is debris in the tail of Planet X, which is
increasingly turning toward the Earth, hosed out from the N Pole of Planet X.
This is why the wobble has gotten more violent, why electromagnetic disruption
of dams and airplanes has occurred, and why blackouts will become more frequent.
There will also be displays in the sky, some of which has already been noticed,
from the electomagnetic tides assaulting the Earth's atmosphere. Stay tuned,
more to come!
<http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue161.htm> Asteroid Blitz from Zetatalk.com

*
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You Are The Judge!
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#12844 From: nathaniel x vance <broali4xa@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:12 am
Subject: ZetaTalk: GLP Live [11-28-09]
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ZetaTalk: GLP Live [11-28-09] 
Page 1: Mushroom crop circle, Magnitogorsk, Common dream, Telekinesis, 911
exposure, STS growth, Putin's reach, Rules of Engagement, Urantia book, Implant
conflict, Technological advances, Cassiopeians, Magnetic influence, Spiritual
lessons, Mars/Moon videos, Plaxo2012.com, Priorities, Climategate, Bogota UFO,
State Dinner crashers, Council of Worlds, Superhuman strength, Oral hygiene, LA
1942 battle, 7 on 1-10 scale, Star Children, Hail storms, Hugo Chavez, Annunaki
influence, Amityville, V, 3rd Density worlds, Lanuage development
*
Excerpts:
[Questioner] Why are the republicans so against 911 trials? Are they afraid
bits of truth around 911 might leak out? Is this a possible avenue to a limited
back door disclosure?
-
[Zeta Response] 911 happened on Bush's watch, as did the errant War in Iraq
which has been proven not necessary as Iraq had nothing to do with the attack on
911. All this is extremely embarrassing to Republicans who have lost control of
the White House and the Congress, both of which they formerly controlled. Their
only hope is that the public forget who was responsible for all the missteps
done by Bush/Cheney. They want no reminders.
*
[Questioner] Big scandal this week called "Climategate". Thousands of scientist
e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were rigged, have been leaked.
They said either hacker or inside job. What's the story and why are the
mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
-
[Zeta Response] Global Warming, as we have long stated, is not the cause of
the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to explain many of the
anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media and the supposed
scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming was evident and
undeniable. Since most people in power in the establishment are aware that there
is a presence in our inner solar system likely to pass at some point, and since
the establishment has the opinion that panic in the masses is the thing to fear,
they pressed all those under their control to go along with this cover-up story.
It is no secret that under Bush, scientists were told what to say, ordered to
toe the line. The media is controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial
goat to tout the line, knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now
that a leak has been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
and not sure how
  to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might be, if
excuses can suffice.
*
[Questioner] What's the story behing the two uninvited people sneaking into the
state dinner and meeting Obama? Secret Service is very upset and embarrassed.
-
[Zeta Response] They were simply opportunists, who hoped to meet people and
further their careers, which were in show business. They in fact hoped that no
one would call them on their affront, so they could participate fully and get
away with it. In future, the Obama administration will be more careful.
*
[Questioner] I would like to ask you what things do you know about Hugo Chavez,
I mean if he is right about some things like the recent problem about the EEUU
military bases in Colombia and if he is right when he criticizes the Elite and
etc.
-
[Zeta Response] Chavez is highly Service-to-Other, and has good intelligence
not only from human sources. He is a contactee, and is right in what he purports
more often than not.
*
<http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm>
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter 
Issue161, Sunday Nov 29, 2009 Asteroid Blitz; Fireball Clouds; Weather Records
<http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue161.htm>

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in many more UFO/ET sightings]
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The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee



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#12843 From: "Dex" <dexxxaa@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:43 pm
Subject: UFO Landing In China
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for me, it looks like a Light Ship and a Light Being embarking, adjusting, and
becoming an Orb. What a dandy!

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9699897.php

Dex

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#12842 From: "Dex" <dexxxaa@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:38 pm
Subject: UFO Landing In China
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for me, it looks like a Light Ship and a Light Being embarking, adjusting, and
becoming an Orb. What a dandy!

http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9699897.php

Dex

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#12841 From: dee777@...
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:46 am
Subject: Re: [earthmountainview] You'd Better Be Ready
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Subject: [earthmountainview]  You'd Better Be Ready








Hi all: I know we can't all live together, and it wouldn't be wise in the
first place.

This past few weeks, I have had multiple warnings that I  have to move
farther east and uphill from where I am. I'm already packing even  though I
don't know where we are going specifically yet.

During this  same time period, I have had multiple dreams about two comets
coming - one of  which is called 'Watermark'.

I found a book titled Watermark, which I  bought immediately. It's about
the Disaster that Changed the World and  Humanity 12,000 years ago.

This comet is evidently coming through again  OR another one just like it.
This is what they are calling Planet X. But  whether you believe in Planet X
or not - the name only means we haven't named  it yet - this is it!!!!

If you aren't ready, you may not survive. Get  away from the coasts and
away from where high winds could rip the roofs off  your houses.

According to Ed Dames (Dr. Doom) the winds will be over  300 miles ph. No
house can withstand that, so you need to be underground or  behind a hill
from the prevailing winds.

On the west coast of America,  the tsunami is said to probably be 500 feet
high and will go pretty far inland  killing everyone in its way with water
and debris.

I had another dream  last night the calculations will be done by the end of
this year, and a new  program of revealing will start on January 1st 2010.

I don't usually  get upset by my dreams and visions because they didn't
affect me personally -  they are usually about 'othoer people' but this one
evidently includes me or  my Father wouldn't be yelling at me that i'm not
listening to him.

So,  this it it people. You'd better be ready for what is coming.

Here are  two pages you need to  see:

http://www.greatdreams.com/poleshift.htm
and
http://www.greatdreams.com/survival.htm

Good  luck!

Dee Finney









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#12840 From: dee777@...
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:24 am
Subject: Re: [earthmountainview] You'd Better Be Ready
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Subject: [earthmountainview]  You'd Better Be Ready








Hi all: I know we can't all live together, and it wouldn't be wise in the
first place.

This past few weeks, I have had multiple warnings that I  have to move
farther east and uphill from where I am. I'm already packing even  though I
don't know where we are going specifically yet.

During this  same time period, I have had multiple dreams about two comets
coming - one of  which is called 'Watermark'.

I found a book titled Watermark, which I  bought immediately. It's about
the Disaster that Changed the World and  Humanity 12,000 years ago.

This comet is evidently coming through again  OR another one just like it.
This is what they are calling Planet X. But  whether you believe in Planet X
or not - the name only means we haven't named  it yet - this is it!!!!

If you aren't ready, you may not survive. Get  away from the coasts and
away from where high winds could rip the roofs off  your houses.

According to Ed Dames (Dr. Doom) the winds will be over  300 miles ph. No
house can withstand that, so you need to be underground or  behind a hill
from the prevailing winds.

On the west coast of America,  the tsunami is said to probably be 500 feet
high and will go pretty far inland  killing everyone in its way with water
and debris.

I had another dream  last night the calculations will be done by the end of
this year, and a new  program of revealing will start on January 1st 2010.

I don't usually  get upset by my dreams and visions because they didn't
affect me personally -  they are usually about 'othoer people' but this one
evidently includes me or  my Father wouldn't be yelling at me that i'm not
listening to him.

So,  this it it people. You'd better be ready for what is coming.

Here are  two pages you need to  see:

http://www.greatdreams.com/poleshift.htm
and
http://www.greatdreams.com/survival.htm

Good  luck!

Dee Finney









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#12839 From: <helek05@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:56 pm
Subject: Re[2]: ZetaTalk: GLP Live [11-21-09]
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Answer to Steven:
HERE IS THE TRUTH!!!:
THE GREY ALIENS (about 1,5 m tall, according to the Betty Hill's map) are from
ARTIFICIAL ORBITAL BASES around Saturn (there are 3 such bases, disguised to
look as natural small "moons") and also around Jupiter. Simply because the
Hill's map is NOT!!! the "star map", this is INTERplanetary map of our VERY OWN
Solar system, of their routes INSIDE our Solar system!!!-to major planets,
including Earth, Mars, Mercury..., etc., and some asteroids, including asteroids
Pallas (big base inside), Interamnia, Pretoria, etc. etc., where they extract
some ores, etc.
  THAT IS THE TRUTH.
  THEY LIVE SUBSURFACE, IN NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, FOR MANY CENTURIES, THE VERY LONG
TIME, INSIDE MOONS, ASTEROIDS, ETC.

  Zeta Reticuli is LIE and NONSENSE.

Dr. Anton A. Anfalov PhD.

#12838 From: "Steven White" <goodforyou2012@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: ZetaTalk: GLP Live [11-21-09]
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So Dr Anton A. Anfalov....What is the truth? I would very much like to hear
your version.....In America we have a saying "Put Up Or Shut Up" If you
think it's a big shame tell us why. Where are grey aliens from?

Sincerely

Steven

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Subject: Re: [ufos-unbound] ZetaTalk: GLP Live [11-21-09]

Zeta Talk IS BIG SHAME TO AMERICA!!!
   This is not the talk of mythical "Zetas", that is the talk of TOTALLY
IMPUDENT AND BAREFACED Nancy "Leader" and etc.- INSANE hoaxers and blabbers
that have NOTHING to do with the Truth!!!
   Grey aliens are NOT from Zeta Reticuli, this is BIG mistake.
   Dr. Anton A. Anfalov PhD.
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#12837 From: <helek05@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: ZetaTalk: GLP Live [11-21-09]
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Zeta Talk IS BIG SHAME TO AMERICA!!!
  This is not the talk of mythical "Zetas", that is the talk of TOTALLY IMPUDENT
AND BAREFACED Nancy "Leader" and etc.- INSANE hoaxers and blabbers that have
NOTHING to do with the Truth!!!
  Grey aliens are NOT from Zeta Reticuli, this is BIG mistake.
  Dr. Anton A. Anfalov PhD.
Ukraine

#12836 From: nathaniel x vance <broali4xa@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:44 am
Subject: ZetaTalk: GLP Live [11-21-09]
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ZetaTalk: GLP Live [11-21-09]

Severe wobble, FAA outage, Asteroid threat, USGS credibility, Annunaki traces,
Symbolic numbers, Obama hatred, Zeta Face crop circle, Fox News lies, Ra
channeling, Fear antidote, Colorado ice ball, Alien cache, Pet souls, Winter
prediction, Windy weather, Simulating seasons, Book of Revelations, STS
increase, Pacific Plate shifts, Gardening, Webbot predictions, Weather wobbles,
Food shortages, The Call, Contactees, Gradual awareness, Hawaii beaches, STS
interaction, Billy Meier/Alex Collier, Obama's thoughts, CERN, Oprah's decision,
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*
Excerpts:
[Questioner] I'm continually baffled by the amount of stupidity and outright
hatred that so many are exhibiting towards the new administration and
health-care reform, as if Obama is the one that caused the mess we're in. (Yes,
some of it's frustration that we aren't seeing a faster recovery.) What's behind
the apparent amnesia, and why are people so ignorant when they have such ready
access to so much information? Are there that many people who are basically just
plain old lazy when it comes to understanding what's going on, or can they be
excused for such willful ignorance?
-
[Zeta Response] These people are the same who would not make such complaints
against the former Bush administration. The reason for all the whining is the
kindness and fairness that Obama and his administration project. These are
cowards, who expect life to be delivered to them, but who would not make such
demands of a bully such as the Bush/Cheney administration. Yes, it is true that
such mindless complaints in the face of the mess the Bush/Cheney administration
left for Obama does not reflect well on those making the complaints.

*
[Questioner] Recently Oprah Winfrey has announced that she is ending her talk
show and had a very emotional moment on her show when she announced this. I
remember that she was very vocal in her support of President Obama, so I was
very surprised when I saw Sarah Palin on her show, pushing her book. Oprah, did
not look pleased. Is there a connection? I can't imagine Oprah being happy about
having Sarah on her show. What is really going on. Is someone actually serious
about positioning Sarah Palin for president in 2012?
-
[Zeta Response] When we were asked about Palin and Oprah, our statement was
that they both wanted ratings increases. Oprah's ratings have been falling, and
to some extent she blames this on her open support for Obama, thus having Palin
on her show was a gesture she hoped would restore that element of her
viewership. Why is she announcing an end to her show? Networks live on ratings,
and she does not like being pushed around by her network. Having Palin on was
one such example of being pushed around by a network. Shows have a life cycle,
going up and being very popular and then slowly dying. The novelty wears off.
She is anticipating a slow decline and getting the network off her back by
announcing an exit date. This is not because she has learned of the pending pole
shift in any official way. This is not the crowd she runs in.
*
[Questioner] Hello star ancestors, can two or more spirits occupy a human body?
I have been told I have a Lemurian and zeta spirit within?
-
[Zeta Response] When more than one spirit incarnates into a body, a crowded
incarnation, it is normally a situation where the original spirit is weak and
cannot resist. The Spirit Guides soon arrive to straighten the situation out.
What normally happens if a weak spirit wants to leave is a walk-in or
possession, depending upon the nature of the original spirit inhabiting the
body. Crowded incarnations are a situation we have warned about, as after the
pole shift, due to the massive die-off, there will be many spirits suddenly
freed of their bodies looking for a new home.
*
<http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta547.htm> 
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue160, Sunday Nov 22, 2009 2012 Movie; Disclosure; New Video Clips
<http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue160.htm>

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in many more UFO/ET sightings]
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The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee



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#12835 From: dee777@...
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:12 am
Subject: Re: On Cabbages and Kings
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In a message dated 11/20/2009 7:13:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
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_http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/2009/11/cabbages-and-kings.html_
(http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/2009/11/cabbages-and-kings.html)

On Cabbages and Kings
By Ed Komarek
11/19/09
Copy and Distribute Freely
My blog:  _http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/_
(http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/)

I wanted to put people onto a few recent important developments that
relate to exopolitics.  All these bits and pieces add up for researchers  who
try
to put them all together into a context that is more or less  accurate.
It's flying by the seat of ones pants of course, and the more  talent and
experience one has at intelligence gathering and analysis, the  better one gets
at developing a fairly accurate model of what is going  on. Discernment is
really important as a few bad apples can  spoil the whole barrel unless they a
re identified and removed for the data  base.

I just watched Clay and Shawn's interview by Bill and Kerry and it was
excellent.

_http://projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html_
(http://projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html)   There is also considerable
discussion on the
disclosure process later  in the interview that is some of the best I have seen.
I am glad to  see past information as well as new information all together
in a neat  package.  Previously the information on the UFO Working Group has
been  scattered all over the threads at Open Minds Forum since the
Pickering's  went public.


This is a long interview but well work watching for the serious  UFO/ET
investigator.  For those with concerns about the discernment of  the
interviewers its important to realize that, yes some of the  whistle-blowers
being
interviewed by Project Camelot are bad  apples determined to spoil the good
apples in the Camelot  barrel, but to their credit Bill and Kerry are sincere
and they have  done good interviews with some real whistle-blowers.  As I
wrote in  a previous article let the buyer beware.
_http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/2009/11/buyer-beware.html_
(http://exopolitics.blogspot.com/2009/11/buyer-beware.html)

As usual both Clay and Shawn try to be very clear what they and their
source know and what is speculation on their part.  I have been involved  in
this case since it came out in public on the Open Minds Forum and have  written
about it.  I have communicated personally with Clay and Shawn by  email and
by phone.  As indicated in the interview the information is  very sensitive
and I try to clear what I write about them before  publishing.  I have even
received a phone call once cutting me off at the  pass not to publicize a
cognition that I had not even had yet.  :-)

Folks need to keep in mind that the Military UFO Working  Group is not a
official group but a kind of pro-disclosure insurgency  within the military.
It's strong enough to leak information but when  attacked it must pull back
and regroup.  The anti-disclosure forces watch  the UFO community very
closely so it really matters how sensitive information  gets released into the
public domain.  Some of these military folks are  putting their lives at risk
for disclosure and things can get dangerous very  quickly.  We in the public
need to understand this.

With the death of Tony Dodd, Bill and Kerry were able to recognize him as
the source for a past interview under a code name.  I was very  interested
in this short interview on government death squads who target, hunt  down,
interrogate, torture and even kill infiltrating  extraterrestrials.
_http://www.projectcamelot.org/john_robie.html_
(http://www.projectcamelot.org/john_robie.html)

There is complementary information on this subject.  Wendelle  Stevens has
had extensive pre-death interviews on tape with one of these  alleged
assassins that Bill and Kerry should get and put on the  Internet.  I seem to
remember that this alleged assassin claimed to have  killed a extraterrestrial
and that was what caused him to question what he was  being ordered to do.
This initiating a chain of events that ended in his  murder but not before
confessing to Wendelle.

A good contactee friend of mine died last year who's name was Mary Ann
Shriver.  I could not report on what follows previously while  she was alive.
Her brother told her he was a CIA assassin and  that he had met two human
extraterrestrials at the White  House.  She also was privy to a phone
conversation when her  brother was drunk.  He gave the military base the proper
codes over the  phone to gain access to a general.  He woke this general up in
the  middle of the night and proceeded to cuss him out for a long time.  (I
suspect that the military brass is not happy with this sort of behavior by
CIA  employees. :-) )

On the political front there have been some interesting new  developments.
I have learned of a pro-disclosure initiative apparently  ongoing in the
House Intelligence Committee but cannot report on what I know  because it
could interfere with this initiative.  My political source  thinks that I should
wait till around December 15 when this initiative may be  winding down
before publishing.  This is the same kind of situation I  found myself in with
the Pickerings as I don't want to blow up the work of  other pro-disclosure
advocates by prematurely releasing information.  I  don't like this any more
that my readers do but we are all in the same boat  and we have to work
together.

I found the following article by Bill Knell that seems to  confirm that
pro-disclosure political activities are much more widespread than  just in the
House Intelligence Committee and the Obama administration and  includes the
Congressional leadership.  I suspect that this sort of thing  is not just
going on in the USA but in executive branches and parliaments  around the
world.  Remember the ruckus about UFOs in the Japanese  Parliament awhile back.

I am told by my political source that Bill's source was wrong about
Shirley being Chelsea's godmother.  My source says that Shirley and  Hilliary
don't get along.  My source did say that one of Dennis  Kucinich's children had
Shirley as a godmother and this must have lead to the  confusion by Bill's
source.  My source does confirm the political  activity discussed below.  I
have excerpted the relevant passages from  Bill's article.
_http://parabook.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/an-alien-captured-on-video-democra
ts-and-ufos-and-glowing-little-people/_
(http://parabook.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/an-alien-captured-on-video-democrats-a\
nd-ufos-and-glowing-little-peopl
e/)



Bill says, "I Got DEM old Kosmic Blues Again Mama. It’s the title of an
album by the late Janis  Joplin, but it may also describe an amazing
discussion that is going on  within the Democratic Party in the USA. Their
Cosmic
blues were  first brought to light by Shirley MacLaine’s revelation that
former U.S. Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich had a UFO  sighting while he
was visiting her home in Graham, Washington,  about fifteen years ago.

Dem blues continued after the news media mentioned that the Bill Clinton
Presidential Library released a number of documents related to UFOs from his
administration. That occurred because Shirley MacLaine happened to be
Chelsea Clinton’s godmother  and because Hillary Clinton, another U.S.
Presidential Candidate,  mentioned the threat of an Alien Invasion during one of
her
speeches.


Bill continues, "According to a Democratic Insider and UFO buff that sent
me an email recently, high ranking members of the Democratic Party are
concerned about how their party members and candidates will handle the UFO
question. “If something happens like the Kucinich thing or aliens are in the
news, they don’t want pundits and politicians verbally stumbling around,” he
said.


He also claims that the Democrats agree changes need to be made in the  way
the subject is handled and the changes had better come fast. “They expect
big UFO news on the horizon. They won’t say what that might be. My guess is
some kind of announcement or major sightings after the busy year we’ve had
(for sightings) so far… They are trying to come up with a kind of policy
statement…something that everyone can  accept.”"








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#12834 From: nathaniel x vance <broali4xa@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:20 am
Subject: 2012: One Movies You’ve got to see!
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Dear Group,
I wanted to say more about the new 2012 movie, but I can do no better job than
what you will find here below in this post. The update is taken from Mrs. Nancy
Zetatalk.com website.
Please, do yourselves a unique favor by taking the time watch these two videos,
as there will explain in greater detail concerning the imminent Judgment Day
Poleshift circa 2012 or even before!

New ZT videos:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTDFD4tR2s> Zeta Report Last Weeks
*
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CUrO3M7jqg&feature=sub>   Magnetic Storm


The earthly  ENDTIME  of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
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#12833 From: dee777@...
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:01 am
Subject: My first lecture UFO in Tempe, AZ
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In a message dated 11/17/2009 10:02:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
maurizio.baiata@... writes:

Hi  everybody,
I am very pleased to announce my first US lecture, organized by  the
Phoenix UFO Group 2012 and hostyed by Cathy Rakoci, that will be  held
next Friday, November 20th, at 6:00 pm at the Mesa Fire Station 201  -
Community Room 360, E 1st St Mesa, AZ 85201.
I’m very honored for this  invitation and I’d like to extend it to my
Exopolitics  and UFO  friends in Phoenix.
The topics I will cover during my presentation will be  based on
everything I’ve learned trough my numerous contacts and  interviews
with the most important personalities in the UFO field in the  last 20
years.
More info:http://ufos.meetup.com/187/
Best to  All
Maurizio Baiata
Open Minds  Magazine
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#12832 From: dee777@...
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: [exopolitics_institute] News Release - Documentary Screening of James Fox...
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In a message dated 11/17/2009 5:37:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
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A puzzle  here:  we watched a lengthy presentation on TV a few weeks ago of
James'  ffilm under that title.  Was that the entire film or were we only
seeing  a long trailer?  It was an excellent piece in itself  and I took it
to be the whole film.

Zlandcommunications wrote:



NEWS  RELEASE
For Immediate  Release
Documentary  Screening  of New
James  Fox Film “I KNOW WHAT I  SAW”
Toronto Film Event -  November 22
  (http://iknowwhatisawthemovie.com/index.html)
Toronto,  Ontario, Canada, November 17, 2009  – The Toronto film crowd
appears  to be eagerly awaiting the controversial screening of the latest James
Fox film documentary “I KNOW WHAT I SAW” in which Fox  divulges – chapter
and verse - how the American government has  single-handedly manipulated and
concealed all information about official  NASA, USAF and international
military interactions with craft of unknown  origin. One film critic observed,
“
The  film tells it all. How much longer can they keep this thing under-wraps?
It  seems that no other film maker or researcher has got it right like
James  Fox.”
During an interview on the  _Richard Syrett Show_
(http://www.richardsyrett.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid\
=1)  Nov 15 Fox
reiterated, “Who is piloting these craft  with no identifiable method of
propulsion or wings, travelling in our  atmosphere at incredible speeds with no
sonic boom...what kind of  technologies are at work here?”
The film follows James Fox as he assails the government  UFO cover-up
through press  conferences at the _National Press Club in Washington DC_
(http://iknowwhatisawthemovie.com/video2.html)   to his three provoking
appearances
with military witnesses on CNN’s _Larry King Live_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvJAs2NoyJc)  and _Anderson Cooper_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fqFNqQ121M) .
Astronaut Gordon Cooper, who witnessed an actual  landing of a UFO, states
in the film: “It landed on the dry  lake-bed.”
_Exopolitics  Canada_ (http://www.exopoliticscanada.ca/) , is holding the
first Canadian screening of this controversial  UFO film documentary.
THIS  IS A MUST COVERAGE FOR ALL CANADIAN MEDIA.
FILM  SCREEENING DETAILS
Date: Sunday  November 22
Time: 1:00 pm  (Doors open at 12:30 pm) The film will  be followed by
discussion and questions.
Location: De La  Salle Oaklands College - Auditorium Theatre (south
entrance)
131 Farnham  Avenue in  in
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Watch the film trailer at: _http://iknowwhatisahttp://iknhttp://iknowhttp_
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_The National Press Club in Washington DC_
(http://freedomofinfo.org/national_press.htm) . There,  Air Force Generals,
astronauts, military and
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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9ttSXYwZsg&feature=related)  and _FAA
officials_
(http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=disclosure+project+john+callahan+video&doci\
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F2BF593383CB6737B124F2BF59&FORM=VIVR3)  from seven countries tell their
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#12831 From: dee777@...
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: "UFO HUNTERS Museum of the Unexplained" Bob White
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I have updated Bob White's page with the following e-mail.

Bob's page is here:  _http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/ufo_metal.htm_
(http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/ufo_metal.htm)

_UFO METAL - THIS  ISN'T THE SMOKING GUN - THIS IS THE BULLET!!!_
(http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/ufo_metal.htm)

Dee


In a message dated 11/17/2009 8:25:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
notification+ygq5agn@... writes:

Larry  Cekander sent a message to the members of UFO HUNTERS Museum of the
Unexplained.

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Subject: bob white

ROBERT  LEE (“Bob”) WHITE


Robert Lee (“Bob”) White died  at 6:55 am November 16 from heart-related
problems and from injuries suffered  in a recent one-car accident. Bob was
born March 26, 1931 in Jackson County,  MO into a family of eight. When he was
twelve, his father died and Bob was  considered old enough to work. He has
been a musical entertainer most of his  life under the stage name of Frank
James. Bob has recorded three albums, a  number of singles and cassette
tapes.  He has appeared in a number of  feature films and television shows,
including the movie Butterfly with Stacy  Keach and Pia Zadora.
In 1985, Bob’s life  changed forever. While traveling from Denver, CO to
Las Vegas, NV, Bob and his  companion had a UFO encounter near the
Colorado-Utah border where he recovered  a metallic “object” he said fell
from the
UFO.  Since he was an active  entertainer, he didn’t tell anyone his UFO story
until after his retirement in  1996.

Bob was referred to the National Institute  of Discovery Science (N.I.D.S.)
by the UFO organization MUFON’s researcher Dr.  John Carpenter after
attending a UFO Conference in Eureka Springs, AR.   In 1996, Bob sent a piece of
his UFO “object” to N.I.D.S. who hired the lab at  New Mexico Tech to
conduct a metallurgical analysis.  The scope of this  analysis was limited, as
explained to Bob by the New Mexico Tech scientist  following its completion.

Cosgrove-Meurer Inc.,  producers of the popular 1990s television show “
Unsolved Mysteries”, flew Bob  to the Los Alamos National Laboratory in late
1996 for more testing of Bob’s  object. This analysis is controversial because
Bob claimed that one of the  scientists told Bob his UFO object was
extraterrestrial  and that Los  Alamos kept a piece of his object.  Differences
in
the Los Alamos and New  Mexico Tech analyses prompted additional scientific
testing in the late 1990s.

Bob White made a sworn statement about the events  of his UFO encounter and
passed a conclusive polygraph test given by a police  polygrapher in 1998.
In 2000, Bob was invited to present his story to  the Rocky Mountain UFO
Conference in Wyoming. He was made aware of a  recently-declassified Top
Secret Army document that appeared to show an object  identical to Bob’s in a
1940s Counter Intelligence Corps file named “Flying  Saucer from Denmark”.
Bob received media recognition from newspapers,  paranormal radio shows, and
national entertainment news shows.  In  September, 2000, Bob and his partner
Larry Cekander opened the Museum of the  Unexplained in Reeds Spring, MO
with Bob as its director.

The Museum and Bob were featured in nationwide media following  Bob’s
announcement that he would sell his UFO object for $10,000,000. Bob and  the
Museum research team continued to perform tests on Bob’s UFO object and  found
that the object exposed dental x-ray film and was emitting an
electro-magnetic field.  An announcement was made in 2003 that isotope 
abundance ratio
tests for the element strontium fell within the range of two  established
Martian meteorites.

In 2004, Bob’s  story was the season opener for the UK television show “
Jane Goldman  Investigates”. The show hired a polygraph operator who was a
member of the  Grand Junction police department to administer another battery
of polygraph  tests and detected no deception by Bob. Bob and his team of
researchers have  revisited the area of Bob’s UFO encounter several times and
have produced a  book and DVD documentary of Bob’s experiences.   The 2005
History  Channel program “UFO Hunters” opened with a recreation of Bob’s
encounter and  a focus on the Army documents and Bob’s visit inside the Los
Alamos National  Laboratory.  This was the first time the documents and video
inside Los  Alamos was aired on national television.  Tests performed in 2007
showed  Bob’s object emitted low level gamma rays and neutrons.

Bob’s story was covered in greater depth in a 2008 episode of “UFO
Hunters”
.  Two scientists came forward and described the unique qualities of Bob’s
UFO  object, and footage of the object’s strange behavior in Laughlin, NV
was  shown.

The research team plans to carry on the research  into the origin of Bob’s
UFO object in Bob’s memory. They promised Bob before  he died that they
would continue the search for the truth.  Bob is  survived by his wife Dixie of
the home, and by his son Mark in California.

I have lost my best friend and partner and the world has lost a true
searher of the truth. He will be deeply missed by all who new  him.

Larry Cekander
VP Museum of the Unexplained
Reeds Spring,  Missouri
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#12830 From: Lori Casey <lkcasey10@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:39 am
Subject: Fw: Yahoo! News Story - Strong Leonid Meteor Shower Peaks Early Tuesday Morning - Yahoo! News
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from Lori :)



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Subject: Yahoo! News Story - Strong Leonid Meteor Shower Peaks Early Tuesday
Morning - Yahoo! News

Lori Mom Casey (lkcasey10@...) has sent you a news article.
(Email address has not been verified.)
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Strong Leonid Meteor Shower Peaks Early Tuesday Morning - Yahoo! News

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20091116/sc_space/strongleonidmeteorshowerpeaksear\
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#12829 From: nathaniel x vance <broali4xa@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:20 pm
Subject: ZetaTalk: GLP Live [11-14-09]
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ZetaTalk: GLP Live [11-14-09]
PAGE 1: ZetaTalk: Brazil Blackout written Nov. 11, 2009
< http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta545.htm>
PAGE 2: Brazil Blackout, 2012 movie, Ukraine/WHO deception, NASA agenda,
Russian time zones, Asteroid swarms, Pole shift winds, 7 week visibility, Fort
Hood, Abductions, Google cover-up, Gitmo, Joe Lieberman, Actions as proof, Moon
stability, Aftertime assistance, Annunaki slaves, Show cancelations, Pet
telepathy, Wobble weather, Annunaki footprints, Africa crevasse, Tail debris,
Farm confiscations, Death, New Zealand elevation, Seed viability, Pace of
change, Mind control, Contacee adjustments, Chickens, 2012 timeline-
-
*
Excerpts:
[Questioner] In an earlier chat, the Zetas stated one of the effects of PX's
presence in the solar system is the disturbance of particle flows with one
symptom of that disruption being changes in asteroid trajectory. According to
this article, our scientists were caught off guard again by another renegade
asteroid. Is this latest event another product of PX?
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=7956
-
[Zeta Response] Yes, and this trend will continue to increase. Earlier such
debris was called space junk, until this excuse was overused and the public
beginning to raise a suspicious eyebrow. Then the increase in fireballs was
noted by the public. We have often stated that the debris in Planet X, the moon
swirls, are likely to be called an asteroid swarm when they become noticed. They
are getting the public ready for such an excuse.
*
[Questioner] Can the zetas comment on the Fort Hood shooter? Motivation
reasoning etc. Was it considered a revenge killing or a Service to Self planet
audition?
-
[Zeta Response] Despite Fox News speculation, he was not an arm of some
terrorist organization, nor was he a Manchurian Candidate. He was repressed all
his life, by his religion and the military life, and had many resentments. He
was unmarried, though an attractive and educated man earning a good living. Why
was this? Thus, teased about his heritage, he became a boiling cauldron, without
outlets of any kind, and finally, as they say, went postal.

*

[Questioner] Can the zetas please comment on Obama's closing of Gitmo and
moving the prisoners to an Illinois prison? Is this a good step and a promise
from his campaign that he is keeping?
_
[Zeta Response] This was a campaign promise. He and his administration have
tried to get other countries to accept ex-prisoners, with some success, but not
all are welcome elsewhere.

*

[Questioner] Why has 'Traitor Joe' Lieberman become such a curmudgeon, going
against an honest health-care reform when in the past he was very outspoken for
it? Has he just become bitter since losing the Democratic primary in 2006, or is
there more to it? The Zetas have said in the past he knows of the coming
passage, yet he is acting more STS with every passing day.
-
[Zeta Response] We have stated that a person's orientation can be determined
by their actions, when the chips are down. Now that he is becoming fearful of
losing his place in the Senate, he wants to collect promises from those he think
can save him when the last weeks arrive. This has nothing to do with right or
wrong and certainly shows a lack of courage. It is self focused.

*
[Questioner] Will objects from Nibiru's tail fall at terminal velocity or will
there be some arriving at the surface of the planet at greater than terminal
velocity. This would greatly influence the construction of our safe locations.
_
[Zeta Response] Assume debris in the tail of Planet X to drop through the
atmosphere as fireballs and meteors do today. The atmosphere slows the fall of
objects, and even though the atmosphere will be reduced to some extent by being
ripped away by the whipping tail of Planet X, it will still be in place to slow
the fall of objects.

<http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta546.htm> 
*
*
The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 159, Sunday, Nov. 15, 2009
<http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue159.htm>

****************************************
[According to the STO ZetaTalk space angels, planet earth can expect an increase
in many more UFO/ET sightings]
<http://www.zetatalk.com/index/blog0928.htm>





The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee



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#12828 From: Lori Casey <lkcasey10@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:49 am
Subject: Re: Home Plate Plateau - Mars
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Thanks for passing this on, Dee.
Lori :)




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Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 1:02:38 PM
Subject: [ufos-unbound] Home Plate Plateau - Mars


This page goes with the Darpa page from yesterday.  This is where the
anomaly 'rocks' are located.
There are a few of them shown on this page.  Most of the fuzzy photos  from
NASA are on Basiago's
pdf file on exopolitics web site.  I tried printing that out  yesterday, it
not only wore out my printer,
half of the text turned to gibberish half way through.

So here is the plateau.  Lots of the rocks are turqoise colored.   Really
pretty.

_http://www.greatdreams.com/mars/home_plate_plateau.htm_
(http://www.greatdreams.com/mars/home_plate_plateau.htm)

Enjoy

Dee Finney

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#12827 From: dee777@...
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:02 pm
Subject: Home Plate Plateau - Mars
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This page goes with the Darpa page from yesterday.  This is where the
anomaly 'rocks' are located.
There are a few of them shown on this page.  Most of the fuzzy photos  from
NASA are on Basiago's
pdf file on exopolitics web site.  I tried printing that out  yesterday, it
not only wore out my printer,
half of the text turned to gibberish half way through.

So here is the plateau.  Lots of the rocks are turqoise colored.   Really
pretty.

_http://www.greatdreams.com/mars/home_plate_plateau.htm_
(http://www.greatdreams.com/mars/home_plate_plateau.htm)

Enjoy

Dee Finney


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#12826 From: nathaniel x vance <broali4xa@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:48 am
Subject: 2012: One Movies You’ve got to see!
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Dear Group,
If you haven’t already heard about this movie, may I humbly recommend that we
take the time to go see it, as it portrays some mighty truths which will no
doubt come upon our world in the very near future, if not before the ominous
date of December 21, 2012 AD!
Through the movie is not exactly accurate in every detail, it does depict
however some real soon coming catastrophes which are prophetic concerning the
EndTime. <http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810045661/video/15978850> 2012 Movie
trailer
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<http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue008.htm>  Zetas on 2012 EndTime date.

The earthly  ENDTIME  of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
salaam  akwaaba  jambo  ashogee



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#12825 From: dee777@...
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:00 pm
Subject: DARPA - PROJECT PEGASUS
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This is one of the most exciting Disclosure Events I've heard in a long
time.
It's rather disturbing that they used little children to do this, but they
say that adults suffocated while doing this, so they had to use smaller
bodies  that needed less oxygen.

They originally used Mexican children who were street urchins to test out
this equipment, and when it was more perfected, they used intelligent
children  of CIA agents and then branched out to find the most intelligent
children and  psychic children in the country to participate.

I'm sure I would have been scared to have one of my kids do it, and I found
  out yesterday that a friend of mine was kidnapped by the CIA when she was
14,  promised wealth and fame if she cooperated, but since she was a life
long  abductee and her little 'grey' doctor monitored her continuosly, he kept
telling  her to resist even though she was heavily drugged and she resisted
the best she  could.  They finally told her she was too stupid to
participate and took  her home.  (She has an IQ of 176)  But she managed to get
out
of the  program they wanted her for.  When she got home, her parents punished
her  for running away from home because they didn't believe she was
kidnapped.   That's the kind of justice you get sometimes.

Any way -  here you go:  _http://www.greatdreams.com/darpa-pegasus.htm_
(http://www.greatdreams.com/darpa-pegasus.htm)

Listen to all the audios, you won't be sorry -  they are  incredible.

Plus there is a group anyone can join on facebook.com  if you are
interested in it.

Enjoy

Dee


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#12824 From: Lori Casey <lkcasey10@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:53 am
Subject: Re: 2012 will come and go with some positive changes....it all depends on us
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Thank you for your words.
They are the most touching, Light-filled, all inclusive words of hope -  and no
matter where we all might be on that day, we can all be united.  How wonderful!
In Light and with Love, Lori :)




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Subject: [ufos-unbound] 2012 will come and go with some positive changes....it
all depends on us


2012 will come and go with some positive changes..... it all depends on
us!!

by Norio Hayakawa
November 13, 2009

The topic of 2012 will continue to be a hot topic among some people as
we approach that year and date.
But realistically everybody knows that 2012 is not about the end of the
world.
The hype about 2012 being the end of the world has been brought about
largely by those who have to thrive on such hype, such as movie
producers, survival kit business owners and writers who depend on
selling books.
To many, 2012 is a business opportunity.
There is nothing wrong with business enterprises per se. It's as human
as it can be.

We all know and seem to believe that the world will go on and on. Even
the Bible seems to indicate that it will go on.
The system of things may change drastically in the future but the world
itself will go on.
The hype about 2012 is also based upon humanity's feeling of insecurity,
especially during these difficult and uncertain times, whether from
worsening economic downturns or fears and threats of wars and terrorism
or from speculations that our environment will deteriorate and will
cause global destruction.

To begin with, 2012 is not about the year itself of 2012.
It's only about one particular day, i.e., December 21 of 2012.
There will probably be nothing earth-shaking at all in the year 2012.
The Olympic Games will be taking place. U.S. Presidential election will
be going on.
Life will go on as usual.
Of course, among a segment of the population the hype about December 21,
2012 will continue to accelerate until that date arrives.
However, December 21, 2012 will come and go.

The only thing unique about December 21, 2012 (or in some calculations,
December 23) is that it marks the end of a calendar cycle used by the
ancient Mayan civilization.
In this sense, December 21, 2012 will be just like a New Year's Eve to
those who are very much into the Mayan calendar.

So I don't see why we should not join them and have a celebration, since
another cycle will begin immediately after that date (or in some
calculations, December 23, 2012).
In fact I suggest that humanity, as individuals, or as individual family
units or in various groups, should gather together on that day all over
the world and have a celebration of life and a time of personal
meditation.
It could be held on a mountaintop or in the desert or in any location of
natural beauty where one could feel good vibrations.
It could be held in any of the so-called sacred sites around the world.
Or it could be held in homes, backyards, places of worship or in
community centers or just about anyplace. The important thing is that
people gather together to celebrate and meditate.

We all make New Year's resolutions, don't we? Or, at least we try to.
The same with December 21, 2012.
It's the beginning of a new cycle, and we all want to transform
ourselves for the better.
2012 is all about personal transformation, not about catastrophic earth
changes (although we cannot rule our anything!! LOL!!).
Real changes come from within.
The world will change for the better if we all make an effort to shift
our attitudes, thoughts and actions.
This paradigm shift will not happen suddenly, although some say that it
will be brought about supernaturally.
I personally believe that it will be a gradual shift.
This world will change for the better if each of us could change in some
ways, for example, if we:

1) begin to abandon our self-centered attitudes (i.e., the "I, I, I" and
"me, me, me" worldview) and begin to think of others more and understand
others' feelings. Ethnocentricity should be de-emphasized. National
boundaries and national identities should still be important but we
should first consider ourselves as citizens of the earth (or even better
yet, Citizens of Heaven) more than just being citizens of a particular
nation. Global consciousness must become the dominant consciousness.
Or, even going further, cosmic consciousness, that we are all one and
part of the human and cosmic family.

2) begin to de-emphasize our linear method of thinking and look beyond
the physical and begin to acknowledge that this wonderful world is
filled with mysteries and that there are things and even entities (the
bulk of whom are benovolent to us) unseen in this world that co-exist
with us. In a larger scale, we must acknowledge that there are countless
number of intelligent entities whether in physical or non-physical forms
(the bulk of whom we believe are benevolent to us) in the entire cosmos
and that eventual contacts with them may be inevitable.

3) begin to make our spiritual health a priority while we do our best to
keep ourselves in good health. Material pursuit (beyond what is
necessary for our basic survival) must be decreased, if not totally
abandoned.

4) begin to de-emphasize our denominational religious structures. We
must move away from religiosity and seek for true spirituality.

5) begin to acknowledge that this entire universe was intelligently
designed by a Creator (or Creators) whether we call the creator a God
(or Gods), and that each of us is a unique creation and that we are not
here by coincidence.
We must begin to re-appreciate and enjoy every moment of our precious
lives and begin to thank everyday for our breathe of life. We must
believe that our physical death is not the end of everything. In fact we
must believe that there is an afterlife and that physical death is
simply the beginning of a new life.

6) begin to think that now is the most important moment in our life, not
yesterday, not tomorrow, but NOW.

If more than 50% of the world will begin to have a personal
transformation based on some of these outlook on life, perhaps we will
then be ready for a real global Disclosure of Truth, whatever that
Disclosure may be that will be coming.

Therefore let us all look forward to December 21, 2012 as the beginning
of a new day.
By the way, we do not have to wait for December 21, 2012 to begin to
make our personal transformation.
In fact, we should start it right now.
http://www.myspace. com/noriohayakaw a
<http://www.myspace. com/noriohayakaw a>

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#12823 From: "noriohayakawa2000" <noriohayakawa@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:34 am
Subject: 2012 will come and go with some positive changes....it all depends on us
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2012 will come and go with some positive changes.....it all depends on
us!!

by Norio Hayakawa
November 13, 2009


The topic of 2012 will continue to be a hot topic among some people as
we approach that year and date.
But realistically everybody knows that 2012 is not about the end of the
world.
The hype about 2012 being the end of the world has been brought about
largely by those who have to thrive on such hype, such as movie
producers, survival kit business owners and writers who depend on
selling books.
To many, 2012 is a business opportunity.
There is nothing wrong with business enterprises per se. It's as human
as it can be.

We all know and seem to believe that the world will go on and on. Even
the Bible seems to indicate that it will go on.
The system of things may change drastically in the future but the world
itself will go on.
The hype about 2012 is also based upon humanity's feeling of insecurity,
especially during these difficult and uncertain times, whether from
worsening economic downturns or fears and threats of wars and terrorism
or from speculations that our environment will deteriorate and will
cause global destruction.

To begin with, 2012 is not about the year itself of 2012.
It's only about one particular day, i.e., December 21 of 2012.
There will probably be nothing earth-shaking at all in the year 2012.
The Olympic Games will be taking place. U.S. Presidential election will
be going on.
Life will go on as usual.
Of course, among a segment of the population the hype about December 21,
2012 will continue to accelerate until that date arrives.
However, December 21, 2012 will come and go.

The only thing unique about December 21, 2012 (or in some calculations,
December 23) is that it marks the end of a calendar cycle used by the
ancient Mayan civilization.
In this sense, December 21, 2012 will be just like a New Year's Eve to
those who are very much into the Mayan calendar.

So I don't see why we should not join them and have a celebration, since
another cycle will begin immediately after that date (or in some
calculations, December 23, 2012).
In fact I suggest that humanity, as individuals, or as individual family
units or in various groups, should gather together on that day all over
the world and have a celebration of life and a time of personal
meditation.
It could be held on a mountaintop or in the desert or in any location of
natural beauty where one could feel good vibrations.
It could be held in any of the so-called sacred sites around the world.
Or it could be held in homes, backyards, places of worship or in
community centers or just about anyplace. The important thing is that
people gather together to celebrate and meditate.

We all make New Year's resolutions, don't we? Or, at least we try to.
The same with December 21, 2012.
It's the beginning of a new cycle, and we all want to transform
ourselves for the better.
2012 is all about personal transformation, not about catastrophic earth
changes (although we cannot rule our anything!! LOL!!).
Real changes come from within.
The world will change for the better if we all make an effort to shift
our attitudes, thoughts and actions.
This paradigm shift will not happen suddenly, although some say that it
will be brought about supernaturally.
I personally believe that it will be a gradual shift.
This world will change for the better if each of us could change in some
ways, for example, if we:

1) begin to abandon our self-centered attitudes (i.e., the "I, I, I" and
"me, me, me" worldview) and begin to think of others more and understand
others' feelings. Ethnocentricity should be de-emphasized. National
boundaries and national identities should still be important but we
should first consider ourselves as citizens of the earth (or even better
yet, Citizens of Heaven) more than just being citizens of a particular
nation. Global consciousness must become the dominant consciousness.
Or, even going further, cosmic consciousness, that we are all one and
part of the human and cosmic family.

2) begin to de-emphasize our linear method of thinking and look beyond
the physical and begin to acknowledge that this wonderful world is
filled with mysteries and that there are things and even entities (the
bulk of whom are benovolent to us) unseen in this world that co-exist
with us. In a larger scale, we must acknowledge that there are countless
number of intelligent entities whether in physical or non-physical forms
(the bulk of whom we believe are benevolent to us) in the entire cosmos
and that eventual contacts with them may be inevitable.

3) begin to make our spiritual health a priority while we do our best to
keep ourselves in good health. Material pursuit (beyond what is
necessary for our basic survival) must be decreased, if not totally
abandoned.

4) begin to de-emphasize our denominational religious structures. We
must move away from religiosity and seek for true spirituality.

5) begin to acknowledge that this entire universe was intelligently
designed by a Creator (or Creators) whether we call the creator a God
(or Gods), and that each of us is a unique creation and that we are not
here by coincidence.
We must begin to re-appreciate and enjoy every moment of our precious
lives and begin to thank everyday for our breathe of life. We must
believe that our physical death is not the end of everything. In fact we
must believe that there is an afterlife and that physical death is
simply the beginning of a new life.

6) begin to think that now is the most important moment in our life, not
yesterday, not tomorrow, but NOW.

If more than 50% of the world will begin to have a personal
transformation based on some of these outlook on life, perhaps we will
then be ready for a real global Disclosure of Truth, whatever that
Disclosure may be that will be coming.

Therefore let us all look forward to December 21, 2012 as the beginning
of a new day.
By the way, we do not have to wait for December 21, 2012 to begin to
make our personal transformation.
In fact, we should start it right now.
http://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa
<http://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa>


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#12822 From: nathaniel x vance <broali4xa@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:01 am
Subject: Massive blackout leaves Brazil in Darkness
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ZetaTalk: Brazil Blackout
written November 11, 2009
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 The failure of the hydroelectric plant at the Itaipu dam situated on the
border of Brazil and Paraguay was of course caused by an electromagnetic storm
caused by the near presence of Planet X and the wafting of its charged tail. The
Brazilian Energy Minister was honest about the cause, stating it was a failure
at the dam caused by an unknown "atmospheric phenomena". Many blackouts are
caused by the equipment shutting down to protect it from surge or brownout
damage. Often when there is high demand for electricity, brownouts can occur due
to lack of power available to serve the demand. This can cause a domino effect,
as one substation after another shuts down due to overload, forcing the demand
onto a neighboring substation. This was not the case in the Brazil/Paraguay
blackout, which stemmed from the dam itself. The blackout was sudden, affecting
the whole area serviced by the power station, showing that the outage stemmed
from the dam itself.
*
…We have warned of increasing outages, such as the Earth experienced in 2003
when the massive tail of Planet X wafted the Earth. These times are now upon
mankind.
<http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta545.htm>  


The earthly  ENDTIME  of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
salaam  akwaaba  jambo  ashogee



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#12821 From: nathaniel x vance <broali4xa@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:52 pm
Subject: Massive blackout leaves Brazil in Darkness
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Massive blackout leaves Brazil on edge
SAO PAULO, Brazil (AFP) – A massive blackout plunged tens of millions in
Brazil's largest cities into darkness, sparking major disruptions, fears of
crime and energy supply concerns Wednesday for the newly named Olympic hosts.The
outage across much of southern Brazil started at 10:15 pm Tuesday (0015 GMT) and
lasted some four hours. Neighboring Paraguay also suffered a 30-minute
nationwide blackout.
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091111/wl_afp/brazilenergyblackout>
<http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=16583626&ch=4226714\
&src=news> video of Brazil blackout  Nov. 10, 2009


The earthly  ENDTIME  of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
salaam  akwaaba  jambo  ashogee



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#12820 From: dee777@...
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:26 am
Subject: Re: Fw: THE FOURTH KIND A MOVIE TO AVOID By Budd Hopkins
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--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Kyle Jones <kjemal@...>  wrote:

> From: Kyle Jones <kjemal@...>
> Subject:  THE FOURTH KIND A MOVIE TO AVOID By Budd Hopkins
> To:
> Date:  Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 11:03 AM
> THE FOURTH KIND
>
>                 A MOVIE  TO
> AVOID
>
>
>
>             By Budd  Hopkins
>
> On Tuesday,  Nov. 3, as I sat in a theater being bombarded
> with
> soundtrack  noise - screams – many screams – and
> melodramatic,
>  over-the-top music, I was watching the new, self-described
> UFO  abuction
> film, The Fourth Kind, and wondering how the
>  screenwriters
> could get so many things wrong.   Ostensibly  set in Nome,
> Alaska –
> which, by the way, looks ravishingly  pretty in the film’s
> many
> elaborate aerial views - the plot is  focused on a therapist
> and her
> clients who have apparently  suffered UFO abductions, and at
> least one
> of these  “abductees,” the therapist’s little
> daughter, seems to have
>  been taken for good.  The film moves along, more or less
>  propelled by
> fake hypnosis sessions in which virtually every  subject
> screams bloody
> murder.  One man, grotesquely  unhinged by what he
> remembers during one
> such session,  actually commits murder, blowing away his
> innocent wife,
> his  two children and himself.  And in this and every other
> case  shown
> in the movie, apart from an owl at the window no one has
>  previously
> remembered anything about his or her abduction
>  experiences
> until hypnosis finally unlocks the ghastly,  unbearable
> truth and the
> screaming starts.
>                  Underlying all of
> this fictional, never before  reported malarky, the film’s
> pseudo-documentary style strains to  convince us that
> everything
> depicted is “supported by actual  case material.”
> Well, after
> thirty-three years of  working with hundreds upon hundreds
> people
> reporting UFO  abduction experiences, I can say, first, that
> in no case
> has  anyone ever reported the permanent disappearance of a
> friend,  a
> family member or anyone even vaguely connected with my huge
>  pool of
> subjects.  The sort of final,  “taken-by-the-aliens
> disappearance” that
> the film suggests  simply doesn’t happen - though,
> unfortunately, this
> tragic  turn in the screenplay could disturb many uninformed
> people in  a
> real-world audience.
>
>
>      Second, the  hyper-emotional
> reactions mimed by the actors are almost non-existent  in
> competently
> conducted hypnosis sessions.  I’ve  observed actual
> screams in perhaps
> six or seven of the nearly  two thousand hypnosis sessions
> I’ve been
> present for, or  carried out myself, over three decades, and
> have never
> seen  the kind of mindless terror, vomiting and crashing
> about  that  the
> movie graphically, and shamelessly, forces upon the
>  audience.
>
>
>
>  In a third bizarre invention, the screenwriters have
>  entangled an
> ancient Sumerian language with the abduction phenomenon,  so
> in this
> movie the aliens apparently speak Sumerian.   Why is that,
> especially
> when communication in abduction  experiences is almost
> inevitably
> telepathic?  Is it  because this tasty bit of fiction
> allows the camera
> to pan  over a museum full of scary-looking ancient
> artifacts?
>
> I  could go on and on with the issues of fact, taste and
> simple  plotting
> that I have with this movie, but I haven’t the heart  or
> the patience to
> do so.  The bottom line is this: save  your $12.50 or
> whatever a ticket
> costs at your local theater,  and if you should suspect that
> you may
> have had an abduction  experience, absolutely stay
> away.
> Such a viewer  could be deeply unsettled by this noisy,
> fictional
> mishmash,  which, as I’ve said, involves murder, gunfire
> and suicide, as
>  well as seemingly endless minutes of blurred, fake video
> imagery  which
> the filmmakers insist is “real.”  (Mercifully, no
>  special-effects
> aliens or UFOs are actually depicted.)
>
> Despite the “unbearable terrors” of hypnotic  recall
> that this movie
> claims to demonstrate, if a person  should undergo hypnotic
> exploration
> of partially recalled  abduction experiences, that
> individual will not
> pick up a  pistol afterwards and shoot somebody, none of her
> family
>  members will be permanently abducted, and he probably
> won’t do  very
> much helpless screaming.  Those things seem to happen  only
> in certain
> kinds of lurid sci-fi or horror movies, of  which The
> Fourth Kind is an extremely unfortunate  mixture.
>
>
>
>
>
>                    Copyright © 1999-2009 Intruders Foundation.  All
> rights  reserved.
>
>
> --
> ~
> Kyle
>
>






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