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#5762 From: "Beverly Fox" <fox7772000@...>
Date: Thu Apr 1, 2004 3:28 pm
Subject: Strange creatures and UFOs
fox7772000
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#5763 From: dee777@...
Date: Fri Apr 2, 2004 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: William Bacon's Home Page/UFO/Paranormal Subsection
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/2/2004 3:45:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
GENESISOFLIGHT@... writes:
http://www.users.voicenet.com/~wbacon/ufo.html


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#5764 From: dee777@...
Date: Fri Apr 2, 2004 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: [SO] Mysterious Shaped UFO Caught Again On Film
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/2/2004 4:55:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
universal_heartbeat2012@... writes:
http://www.rense.com/general51/myst.htm


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#5765 From: dee777@...
Date: Fri Apr 2, 2004 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: [SO] UFO Photographs & Photos - UFO Evidence
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/2/2004 4:53:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, uforaport@...
writes:
new ufo photos

http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/view/newer.htm


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#5766 From: "The ARC ~ Alternate Realities Center" <Director@...>
Date: Sat Apr 3, 2004 4:56 pm
Subject: Alternate Realities Conference 2004 ~ Summary Press Release
thearcdirector
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Press Release, For immediate Dispersal

Alternate Realities Conference ~ The ARC 2004
September 24-26, 2004 ~ Johnson City, Tennessee ~ Centre at Millennium Park
Cost: Before May 1st ~ $50, after May 1st but before August 1st ~ $75, after
August 1st ~ $100
Contact: The ARC ~ Alternate Realities Center, PO Box 153, Unicoi, TN 37692 /
Conference Hotline: (423) 943-6477
Email: Director@...
Web: Www.AlternateRealities.orG
Paranormal subjects covered include UFOs, or Unidentified Flying Objects, Ghosts
and Haunted Places, Bigfoot, Alien Abduction and Extraterrestrial Contact
Encounters, as well as Spiritual and Psychic Development, Free Energy and
Government Conspiracies, Metaphysics, and much, much more. Speakers include
Kriss Stephens ~ The ARC 2004 Key Note Speaker and former host of the 'Mtv'
popular television series called "FEAR", Speaking on her intriguing
"Investigations of Ghosts and Haunted Places", as well as her brand new book
with autographed book signings; Leah Haley, returning from our first conference
event in 1994, will speak on the content of her new book "Unlocking Alien
Closets" with autographed book signings and a true homecoming for us all; Jim
Hickman, the alien abduction of Human beings as well as a history of UFO's in
the media; Donald M. Ware, LTC (USAF Retired) offering two talks entitled "UFOs
and the Spiritual Hierarchy" and "Planet X: A Philosophical Perspective"; Jason
Martell, speaking on important information from his recent books regarding
"Ancient Astronauts and the Sumerian Culture" as well as "Planet X: A Scientific
Perspective"; Chester Moore, speaking on speaking on about his research on the
illusive creature known as Bigfoot, Stacey Allen McGee, Founder and Director of
The ARC and a native of upper East Tennessee will present a preview of his
forthcoming book to be called "Time, Space, and Thought... Journeys In
Metaphysics"... There will be live music during and after the conference with a
space art display on each day and a ghost walk on Saturday evening in
Tennessee's oldest town, Jonesborough and everyone is invited! Travel, tourism,
and accommodations information can be found on our website at
Www.AlternateRealties.orG

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns... Please send all
inquiries to Director@...

Stacey Allen McGee
Founder and Director
The ARC ~ Alternate Realities Center
Www.AlternateRealities.orG

Email: Director@...
Mailing Address: PO Box 153, Unicoi, TN 37692 USA
Extraordinary Experiences & Sightings Hotline: 423-735-0848
Office Telephone and Meeting Information: 423-943-6477

"What concerns me is not the way things are, but rather the way people think
things are." -- Epictetus 55-135

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and science." -- Albert Einstein


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#5767 From: "Beverly Fox" <fox7772000@...>
Date: Sat Apr 3, 2004 5:22 pm
Subject: Re: Alternate Realities Conference 2004 ~ Summary Press Release
fox7772000
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There is a magazine called Alternate Realities. Is this in any way
connected to that? Just curious. http://uforanks.com



--- In ufos-unbound@yahoogroups.com, "The ARC ~ Alternate Realities
Center" <Director@A...> wrote:
> Press Release, For immediate Dispersal
>
> Alternate Realities Conference ~ The ARC 2004
> September 24-26, 2004 ~ Johnson City, Tennessee ~ Centre at
Millennium Park
> Cost: Before May 1st ~ $50, after May 1st but before August 1st ~
$75, after August 1st ~ $100
> Contact: The ARC ~ Alternate Realities Center, PO Box 153, Unicoi,
TN 37692 / Conference Hotline: (423) 943-6477
> Email: Director@A...
> Web: Www.AlternateRealities.orG
> Paranormal subjects covered include UFOs, or Unidentified Flying
Objects, Ghosts and Haunted Places, Bigfoot, Alien Abduction and
Extraterrestrial Contact Encounters, as well as Spiritual and Psychic
Development, Free Energy and Government Conspiracies, Metaphysics,
and much, much more. Speakers include Kriss Stephens ~ The ARC 2004
Key Note Speaker and former host of the 'Mtv' popular television
series called "FEAR", Speaking on her intriguing "Investigations of
Ghosts and Haunted Places", as well as her brand new book with
autographed book signings; Leah Haley, returning from our first
conference event in 1994, will speak on the content of her new
book "Unlocking Alien Closets" with autographed book signings and a
true homecoming for us all; Jim Hickman, the alien abduction of Human
beings as well as a history of UFO's in the media; Donald M. Ware,
LTC (USAF Retired) offering two talks entitled "UFOs and the
Spiritual Hierarchy" and "Planet X: A Philosophical Perspective";
Jason Martell, speaking on important information from his recent
books regarding "Ancient Astronauts and the Sumerian Culture" as well
as "Planet X: A Scientific Perspective"; Chester Moore, speaking on
speaking on about his research on the illusive creature known as
Bigfoot, Stacey Allen McGee, Founder and Director of The ARC and a
native of upper East Tennessee will present a preview of his
forthcoming book to be called "Time, Space, and Thought... Journeys
In Metaphysics"... There will be live music during and after the
conference with a space art display on each day and a ghost walk on
Saturday evening in Tennessee's oldest town, Jonesborough and
everyone is invited! Travel, tourism, and accommodations information
can be found on our website at Www.AlternateRealties.orG
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns... Please
send all inquiries to Director@A...
>
> Stacey Allen McGee
> Founder and Director
> The ARC ~ Alternate Realities Center
> Www.AlternateRealities.orG
>
> Email: Director@A...
> Mailing Address: PO Box 153, Unicoi, TN 37692 USA
> Extraordinary Experiences & Sightings Hotline: 423-735-0848
> Office Telephone and Meeting Information: 423-943-6477
>
> "What concerns me is not the way things are, but rather the way
people think things are." -- Epictetus 55-135
>
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It
is the
> source of all true art and science." -- Albert Einstein
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#5768 From: dee777@...
Date: Sat Apr 3, 2004 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: @@ Google's New Big Brother Email Service
dee777_1999
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I have respect for Alex Jones and have considered moving some of my e-mails to
the new Gmail from Google. I don't mind advertising at the bottom of the
e-mail like
Yahoogroups does because I don't have to read it - but I sure don't want big
pictures
at the top of the e-mail that forces me to scroll past it, and I DON'T want
some big time
computer scanning my e-mail to see what I'm writing about - even if I am
writing about
innocent topics I wouldn't be ashamed to let my kids see.

Read the site below:
http://www.infowars.com/print/bb/googlemail.htm
Dee


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#5769 From: dee777@...
Date: Sat Apr 3, 2004 10:52 pm
Subject: Government getting ready to disclose the secret of UFOs
dee777_1999
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Hi all:

For those of you who didn't hear Steven Basset on Coasttocoastam.com last
night,
he said that there is underlying movement within the government (without
coming
out into the open) to disclose the secret that UFOs exist.

He said that the Clintons and Rockefeller met some time ago, and
organizations are
being set up now and monies being gathered to fund some projects.

I didn't write down the details, but will try to get the archive downloaded
tomorrow.
For some reason, they say there is a technical glitch in the program
downloading
process which they are trying to fix.

Remind me with an "Oh yeah! Right!" sarcastic remark if they don't fix this
promptly.

If the government can disclose - George Noory and his radio company can
disclose.

See:  http://www.paradigmclock.com/Disclosure2003/www/index.html  for more
details.

Dee


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#5770 From: dee777@...
Date: Sat Apr 3, 2004 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: They Fly Newsletter
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/3/2004 5:19:33 PM Pacific Standard Time,
theyfly.newsletter@... writes:
Dear List Member,

There are a number of important new developments that I will share with
you:

Book now available!
How you can really help now.
New articles.


Regarding the book: The first copies of And Still They Fly! have
shipped. I've been reading it myself, as time permits, and it's
beautifully done. The Henoch Prophecies have been included and offer
the most compelling reason to work now to bring increased awareness to
people who are ready for it. That the prophecies are foreboding and
ominous is an understatement but it is my perspective that they have
also been given as a loud and clear wake-up call for those who would
like to...make them wrong. By that I mean that, if enough of us
recognize that these are the times and conditions in which we must make
a major course correction, we can shift the course of events to the
positive...more so than if we do nothing.

How you can help now: My own work is currently focused on bringing the
Billy Meier Contacts to public attention and now you can help, in a big
way, with very little effort. I recently called into the Los
Angeles-based, nationally syndicated, Dennis Prager radio show when the
discussion was on the possibility of extraterrestrial life. I got just
enough information mentioned, without mentioning the case itself, that
Mr. Prager asked me, on-air, to send him information about it. While
his skepticism is quite clear, and while I've actually tried to get the
information to him, and on his show, for over seven years, I made sure
that his office had a complete kit, including my DVD, the very next
day.

Here's where you come in. It is vitally important that as many people
as possible contact him and, respectfully, request that he interview me
on his show. Numbers do count in this game! All that I ask you to do is
let him know, in only a couple of lines, that you're aware of the case
and my work and that you think it's essential that his audience has a
chance to learn about the Meier contacts.

Feel free to tell him whatever's true for you, i.e. that the case is
interesting, that you are/aren't convinced it's authentic, etc. Again,
just make it short, sweet and to the point. And send me a BCC for my
own files please. Dennis Prager: dennisprager@...
Website: dennisprager.com

If you really want to splurge, please do the same thing with radio host
Michael Medved, whose producer is so intimidated by the case and me
that he has actually censored and prevented me, three times, from
simply being an ordinary caller to the show! Medved did have me as a
guest a couple of years ago and thought he was going to tar me as a
wacko and get rid of me in five minutes. Forty minutes later he had to
give me a grudging compliment and end the interview after I
successfully, factually, rebutted any and every criticism he could
throw at me. Again, just a short, sweet, to the point note about having
me on with all my new proof and information would do it. Michael
Medved: culturalcrusader@... Website: michaelmedved.com Please
remember to BCC me!

New articles: I have several new articles posted and I'm including them
for you below. You should know that the ongoing encounter with the
"professional skeptics" has them in quite a state of confusion, as
you'll be able to glean from the articles. You can read some of our
correspondence, which they masochistically keep posting, at:
http://www.iigwest.com/horn.letters.html
I think you can understand that this isn't about chasing their phony
(most likely non-existent) monetary awards but rather using the heat to
generate some light. Because they have been so pompous, inept,
unprofessional and out of integrity, they have fueled the interest of
many people and will, ultimately, bring down all sorts of well-deserved
disrepute upon themselves. Hey, I'm glad to help them along.

I do stand behind all that I've written and the "Application" below is,
as far as I can tell, impeccably logical and inescapable for anyone who
has the integrity to honor their own word. Which means I'm not exactly
counting the cash yet.

Okay, for those of you who don't yet have the book, or my DVD, now's a
good time to consider getting one/them. Well, don't just consider it,
live it up, be bold, be daring and get it for someone special...like
yourself. Ordering info at: www.theyfly.com Okay, that was the big
pitch. And, hey, help me out, send those emails! Now here are the
articles.

All the best,

Michael Horn
Authorized Media Representative
The Billy Meier Contacts
www.theyfly.com


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

"Amazing" Randi Now Retracts Claim Meier UFO Case Hoaxed! Will Have to
Pay $1,000,000!

www.theyfly.com

LOS ANGELES, CA - In an absolutely stunning reversal of position, one
that is sure to leave his skeptical cohorts in disarray and focus new
international attention on the case, noted children's magician and
professional skeptic the "Amazing" Randi, today effectively withdrew
his unsubstantiated, defamatory claims (made on Tuesday, April 15,
2003) that the Billy Meier UFO contact case is a hoax.

In correspondence received by Michael Horn, the Authorized American
Media Representative for the Billy Meier Contacts, on Sunday, March 28,
2004, Randi clearly states, "... Now, Michael has divined that I called
the Meier case a “hoax.”  His powers of perception are REMARKABLE; he
finds things where they don’t exist! Wonderful!"

The staggering implications to his credibility, and that of a whole
extended team of professional skeptics and debunkers, who have been
publicly defaming Mr. Meier for years, is astounding. At stake, in
addition to their reputations, is an award by Randi of $1,000,000 for
proof of the paranormal. Since Randi now withdraws his claim that the
Meier case isn’t paranormal, it logically (and legally) follows that
the award is now due Meier.

While conceding the truthfulness of the Meier case, and thereby
obligating himself to a rather substantial pay out, Randi may also be
attempting to avoid having even more public attention directed to the
failure of his associates at CFI-West, the Los Angeles branch of the
international professional skeptics' organization, to duplicate the
Meier photographic evidence, a challenge accepted by CFI-West in
February 2001.

Undoubtedly concerned by the international criticism generated by
CFI-West representative Mr. Vaughn Rees' public refusal, in front of
millions of listeners on the Art Bell radio show (March 7, 2004), to
submit recently produced photos from CFI-West to the same scientific
standards and testing Mr. Meier's were, Randi has effectively ended the
challenge to Mr. Meier.

It is clear now that after failing to sully Mr. Meier’s reputation
Randi has no other means of redeeming his own except by forwarding the
$1,000,000 award to Mr. Meier. There is also a $5,000 award due Mr.
Meier by CFI West since they have failed to duplicate Mr. Meier’s
photos, which they called “easily duplicated hoaxes”.

More importantly, this remarkable development is sure to open the eyes
of scientists and other interested people around the world to the
authenticity, and actual content, of the Billy Meier contacts.
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                                 Application for $1,000,000 Award from James
Randi
                                                    (And $5,000 from CFI-West)

I, Michael Horn, known to countless millions everywhere as the
unwavering (t)horn-in-the-side of pseudo-scientists, poseurs,
charlatans and frauds everywhere, do hereby make the following
predictions and submit them as proof of my paranormal abilities. In so
doing, I am applying for all financial awards offered by the James
Randi Foundation, CFI-West and any and all other affiliated or
non-affiliated individuals, groups and organizations offering such
awards for proof of paranormal abilities:

1. I PREDICT that CFI-West will not submit their photographs, that
attempt to duplicate Mr. Billy Meier's UFO photos, to the same known,
specified, rigorous, scientific standards and protocols Mr. Meier's
were.

2. I PREDICT that James Randi will not demand that CFI-West have their
pictures thusly tested in order to fulfill the challenge that CFI-West
accepted (February 2001), i.e. to duplicate Mr. Meier's "easily
duplicated hoaxes", as any objective, principled scientist would
emphatically demand.

3. I PREDICT that James Randi and CFI-West will continue to attempt to
shift the focus of the original challenge away from CFI-West's failure
to meet the challenge.

4. I PREDICT that these predictions will be fulfilled up to and
including April 15, 2004, a very taxing day in itself.

The odds against these predictions being fulfilled is actually
astronomical since no professional, reputable, credible, scientific,
honest and genuinely objective entities would ever allow, encourage or
promote such dishonest, slimy and despicable conduct, (i.e. avoidance
of fulfillment of the terms, and misdirection and obfuscation, of the
challenge they accepted), as a means to avoid meeting its obligations
to pay these awards to any parties who have demonstrated paranormal
evidence or abilities. Since there is an objective, scientific standard
for the paranormal, and since James Randi and CFI-West, among others
have offered awards for proof of such, failing to meet the challenge
that they accepted in regards to such evidence would constitute proof
in and of itself.

I will also, at my own expense, voluntarily promote, publicize and
announce the results of my challenge, unlikely as it may be that such
predictions could, or would, be fulfilled.

But, unimaginable as it may seem, should the above occur as I have
predicted, I would expect the promised sums and awards to be made
payable to me, Michael Horn, within 10 days of April 15, 2004.

Signed,

Michael Horn

Accepted for CFI-West by:__________________________________

Accepted for the James Randi Foundation:________________________________

March 29, 2004

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---------------------------------

UFO Prophet Right Again?

www.theyfly.com


LOS ANGELES, CA:  Just days after Michael Horn, the Authorized American
Media Representative for the Billy Meier Contacts, appeared on the
internationally broadcast Coast To Coast radio show with Art Bell,
relating the uncannily accurate prophecies and predictions preemptively
published by Swiss UFO contactee Billy Meier, it appears that Meier has
been proven right again, unfortunately so in one case.

While millions of listeners heard Art Bell play the role of devil’s
advocate to perfection, challenging Horn about almost every detail of
the proof that he claims authenticates the Meier case, Horn read from
prophecies allegedly given to Meier by his extraterrestrial visitors in
1987. In addition to highly disturbing information foretelling enormous
destruction to America, if its military policies and governmental
leaders are not immediately changed, Horn read the following excerpt
from a much more lengthy, and equally ominous, section dealing with
massive destruction in Europe:

“And it will be that the fanatics of Islam will rise up and cover the
lands of Europe with war, all will shake and quiver.”

Three days later, Spain was struck by terrorists who are now believed
to be linked to Osama bin Ladin’s Al-Qaeda Islamic terrorist group.

Another New Confirmation

Contrasting the gloomy forecast of worldwide turmoil, should people
everywhere not heed the warnings in time, an announcement first made on
February 24, 2004, and recently reported again on March 15, regarding
the discovery of a new planet beyond Pluto, was shown to have been
again preempted by Meier’s own foretelling, published in 1978, of the
ultimate discovery of not one but two such planets.

Bell Confirms Meier’s Amazing Accuracy

While Art Bell maintained a healthy skepticism regarding Meier’s
prophetic accuracy, he readily admitted that not only were the renowned
scientific experts who confirmed the authenticity of Meier’s physical
evidence beyond reproach in their credibility but Horn was right when
he stated that Meier’s prophetic warnings about a half-dozen specific
events, including the U.S. attack on Iraq, the increase in Islamic
terrorism, the appearance of SARS, the spread of Mad Cow Disease, the
renewed public concern over chemical warfare and the near accident at
the nuclear power plant near Lyon, France (all predicted by Meier in
1995) were all in Bell’s own possession in a book published in
2001…also years before they occurred!

Skeptic Shot Down On Air

The show had a moment of unexpected light comedy when Mr. Vaughn Rees,
Case Investigator for the professional skeptics’ organization CFI-West,
who has the dubious distinction of accepting and subsequently failing
Horn’s challenge to duplicate Meier’s photo and film evidence, tried to
claim that the photos of UFO models CFI-West finally published (after
three years) should be exempted from being subjected to the same
scientific scrutiny as Meier’s were! Bell himself made short work of
Rees and any credibility he’d hoped to establish with his attempt at
redefining scientific standards of proof.

   Anti-American Rhetoric or Wake-up Call?

While Bell, and some of his listeners, were clearly upset by the
critical tone regarding American policies in Meier’s information, Horn
tried to point out that, while these were warnings designed to wake us
up to take corrective action and, as such, are not couched in pleasant,
flattering terms inappropriate to the situation, an equally harsh tone
was also directed at numerous other nations and leaders. During this
unprecedented, four-hour, in-depth exploration of the Meier information
it was noted that, for his troubles, Meier has been the target of
unsuccessful assassins a documented 19 times, which, while it may be
consistent with the time-honored human idiocy of “shooting the
messenger”, certainly contradicts the idea that any kind of “hoaxer”
would warrant such negative attention.

Full Prophecies Now Available

In addition to the new, comprehensive, two-hour long DVD "The Meier
Contacts - The Key To Our Future Survival", Horn also announced that
the full English translation of the Henoch Prophecies from 1987, from
which the information regarding the Islamic attacks in Europe, the
forewarning of the World Trade Center destruction by terrorists and the
American-led wars to follow were culled, is now available in the new
book “And Still They Fly!” from www.theyfly.com


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#5771 From: dee777@...
Date: Sun Apr 4, 2004 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: [SO] Sonora, California - April 3, 2004
dee777_1999
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We live down the hill from Sonora, a little to the north. We were looking out
the window
at that same time, looking at the moon. We must just have missed the UFO. :-(

Dee

In a message dated 4/3/2004 11:00:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
hbccufo@... writes:
Sonora, California

Date:  April 3, 2004
Time:  7:15 pm.

Number of witnesses: 1
Number of objects: 1
Shape of objects: Large Bluish White Light
Full Description of event/sighting: I was facing east, the full moon was
above and to my right.  From my left, overhead, a large bluish-white light was
passing over me.  It was beautiful!  It moved rather sedately, and slowly seemed
to rock to the left and right as it flew over.  It passed right in front of
the full moon and kept going towards the north.  Object was in sight for over
three minutes.  Other aircraft (definitely planes with FAA mandated blinking
lights) were flying in the area just east of the object.  They definitely were
higher in the air than the object.  It seemed no more than two football
fields-length from me.  The light was very, very large.  It looked to be
dime-sized.
I can't imagine how big it would have been if it had been closer!

Thank you to the witness for their report.

Brian Vike, Director
HBCC UFO Research

Home - Phone 250 845 2189
email: hbccufo@...
Website: http://www.hbccufo.com


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#5772 From: dee777@...
Date: Sun Apr 4, 2004 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Government getting ready to disclose the secret of UFOs
dee777_1999
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More important info from a reader.

In a message dated 4/4/2004 10:24:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,
TapTen@... writes:
Yes indeed, I anxiously await the outcome of events following this
years "X-Conference" from the looks of the financial supporters and
the new ammunition they intend to deploy during this event, something
amazing must be forthcomming in way to lend much greater creedence
that we as a human species may not in fact be that uncommon at all
and  the long awaited proof of other complex & intelligent life among
the stars will be the smoking gun for sure.

Ref: Coalition for Freedom of Information
[2004 update] The CFI recently held a second press conference at the
National Press Club announcing their intentions to file law suits to
pressure the Department of Defense and National Aeronautics and Space
Administration over documents pertaining to the 1965 Kecksburg, PA
events. As usual this extraordinary emerging development is initially
ignored by the political media in Washington, DC. A powerful
Washington insider with major financial backers and contacts within
the Democratic Party, has publicly connected himself to the
UFO/ET/Disclosure issue without any apparent negative impact on his
clout. A K-Street law firm is on board filing FOIA requests. And John
Podesta's brother's powerful public relations firm, PodestaMatoon, is
representing CFI which is backed by a major cable channel. The
Washington Post; Washington Times; ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX News and the
Capitol Hill newspapers can only ignore this for so long. Something
has to give.
http://www.freedomofinfo.org

------ R&D FUNDING ---
*Center for American Progress
Just seven days after the Sci Fi Channel/CFI second NPC press
conference, a new liberal think tank headed by John Podesta, Center
for American Progress, opens it doors, since then Numerous newspaper
articles covering the opening of the Center for American Progress
mention millions of dollars of financial backing from George Soros,
founder of the Open Society Fund, the Central European University,
and President of Soros Fund Management and Chief Investment Advisor
to Quantum Fund N.V.
http://www.americanprogress.org

*Open Society Fund
Founded by International philanthropist George Soros in 1979, the
Soros Foundation-Hungary in 1984 and the Soros Foundation-Soviet
Union in 1987. He now has a network of foundations operating in 24
countries throughout Central and Eastern Europe, as well as South
Africa and the United States. Soros was born in Budapest, Hungary in
1930. He emigrated to England in 1947 and graduated from the London
School of Economics in 1952. In 1956, he moved to the United States.
[Bio details]: - http://www.soros.org.mk/osi/soros/en/biogra.htm
http://www.soros.org


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#5773 From: dee777@...
Date: Sun Apr 4, 2004 5:34 pm
Subject: Steven Basset Interview
dee777_1999
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Hi all:

I now have the Steven Basset interview downloaded in a mp3 file.

I was going to upload it onto our website directory but it would take too long
to get it there because its so large.  If anyone wants a copy of this file,
let
me know, its about a 14 minute download on a fast connection - most likely
longer if you are using dial up.

I may type it up into a text file, but won't get to that right away.

The interview is mostly about the X-conference coming, and the possibility
of public disclosure coming from the government.

I can hardly wait.  Let me know if you want this file. I am not offering it to
anyone but this list.

Dee


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#5774 From: dee777@...
Date: Sun Apr 4, 2004 7:42 pm
Subject: Re: [SO] Sonora, California - Another Encounter - Scoop Mark - Photos
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/4/2004 4:01:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
hbccufo@... writes:
Hi List

I just posted a report to everyone about a sighting that just took place in
Sonora, California. What I didn't realize is that the man who reported the
sighting, his brother also had another close encounter and received more marks
on
his body. The new photos can be viewed at: http://www.hbccufo.com/index.php at
the top of the page.

Sonora, California - Another Encounter - Scoop Mark - Photos

HBCC UFO Research just reported on a report of a gentleman who contacted me
about a scoop mark and terrible bruising he discovered on his body on March 25,
2004 Time: Approx: 9:00 p.m. (Report & Photos can be found at:
http://www.hbccufo.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1145&mode=&order
=0&thold=0
Pictures were sent to show what had taken place. Today I received a new set
of photos and short report informing me that the fellow had another encounter.
Again photos were taken which shows a mark or scar behind the man's ear. Also
more marks have showed up on his back.

One day later after the incident with the marks on the man's body another
sighting of an object was witnessed on April 3, 2004 in the same area. Report is
below:

Sonora, California

Date:  April 3, 2004
Time:  7:15 pm.

Number of witnesses: 1
Number of objects: 1
Shape of objects: Large Bluish White Light
Full Description of event/sighting: I was facing east, the full moon was
above and to my right.  From my left, overhead, a large bluish-white light was
passing over me.  It was beautiful!  It moved rather sedately, and slowly seemed
to rock to the left and right as it flew over.  It passed right in front of
the full moon and kept going towards the north.  Object was in sight for over
three minutes.  Other aircraft (definitely planes with FAA mandated blinking
lights) were flying in the area just east of the object.  They definitely were
higher in the air than the object.  It seemed no more than two football
fields-length from me.  The light was very, very large.  It looked to be
dime-sized.
I can't imagine how big it would have been if it had been closer!

Dear Brian,

I just sent a UFO report to your website.  It happened about an hour ago.

Photos of the marks on the man's body can be found at:

Also, last night my brother had new marks on his back.  Pictures attached, as
well as a mark or scar behind his left ear.  He has NO memory of getting
them.  No nausea, no pain, he was looking in the mirror when he noticed them.
They're are more on his back now.  If you compare the pictures I sent you
before,
you will see the difference.  I don't know why they would focus on my
brother's spine, but he was in a motor bike accident when he was sixteen.  He is
now
22 this month.  He swerved to avoid a dog and hit a tree.  He wasn't wearing
his helmet and ended up in a coma for two months.  He has mobility in his left
leg, but not much control over it.  His left hand still spasms.  He had nerve
damage.  He walks with a pronounced limp.  I wonder what they are doing to
him.  It is frustrating!  He says that he doesn't mind if you use his pictures.

Thanks again for your help, Brian.

My many thanks to the person for sending along the report and photos.

Brian Vike, Director
HBCC UFO Research

Phone 1 250 845 2189
email: hbccufo@...
Website: http://www.hbccufo.com


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#5775 From: dee777@...
Date: Sun Apr 4, 2004 7:49 pm
Subject: Re: [SO] In A Whirl Over Crop Circle
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/4/2004 4:01:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
universal_heartbeat2012@... writes:

"Both crop circle enthusiasts said they had nothing to do with making the
circles, which are generally associated with UFOs." Click the link if you don't
receive the image.

http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,9177996%5E2765,0
0.html


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#5776 From: dee777@...
Date: Mon Apr 5, 2004 1:27 am
Subject: Re: FW: Requiem For America On Line AOL
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/4/2004 7:14:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rainlyre5@... writes:

  http://www.rense.com/general51/req.htm
AOL is just like Google's G-mail coming.

Dee


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#5777 From: dee777@...
Date: Mon Apr 5, 2004 1:30 am
Subject: Re: [SO] Dulce
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/4/2004 4:04:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
dexxxaa@... writes:
I'd like to add something I think hasn't been talked about or
mentioned concerning the girl abducted by the Dulce group. While her
brief stay in their underground laboratory and witnessing those large
vats of blue swirl with human parts floating about, she also told
Paul Bennewitz and Maj. Edwards, upon her return, the alien in charge
pointed out to her a vat that contained an intact body form of a
different type of alien, probably belonging to another ET group, had
said to her this one was a personal enemy of his. Paul was repulsed
by the ghoulishness of these aliens and wanted to rid the world of
them. Paul's experiences with these aliens haven't surfaced
completely in the public domain. I haven't told everything I know
about Paul sorry to say, But his is a remarkable story. I'm sorry
that because of his eventual breakdown and of his recent passing,
excluding those who personally knew him, most researchers are now
more inclined to think he was crazy all along. Discrediting an
impressive individual who's exposure of the violating groups kicked
off awareness of the siege mind set of these off world intelligence.
Dex


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#5778 From: dee777@...
Date: Mon Apr 5, 2004 11:43 am
Subject: Website of greatdreams.com and earthmountainview.com
dee777_1999
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Hi all:

Our server has just e-mailed us and told us he was going to have to remove
our website
from his server. It most likely has to do with too many people visiting our
site and that
is costly.

If the greatdreams.com site or the earthmountainview.com site disappears
suddenly,
we WILL be back from another server.

We will work as fast as possible to do this so nobody misses out on anything
new
coming up.  In the meantime, if there is any particular pages you want to
follow,
that get updated, I would suggest you print them out today or save them to
your
harddrive - just in case we get yanked suddenly.

Dee


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#5779 From: dee777@...
Date: Tue Apr 6, 2004 11:26 am
Subject: Re: [SO] UFO ROUNDUP, Volume 9 Number 14
dee777_1999
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UFO ROUNDUP
Volume 9, Number 14
April 7, 2004
Editor: Joseph Trainor

E-mail: Masinaigan@...
Website: http://www.ufoinfo.com/roundup/


CANADA'S PRIME MINISTER
ENCOUNTERS A UFO

       "What fate the stars hold for Paul Martin," Canada's
prime minister, "may be unknown.  But one thing's
certain."  Martin "recently had a high-flying encounter
with a UFO."
       "Martin and his entourage were circling above Alberta
(province) when their Challenger jet came within an
otherworldly whisker of a luminous object streaking across
the night sky."
       "In a report to Edmonton air traffic controllers, the
pilot of Martin's plane noted seeing 'a very bright light
falling' through the air, with smoke trailing, while the
aircraft passed over Suffield, Alta. on Sunday, March 21,
2004."
       "People on two other planes saw the plummeting
object, which was travelling 'at a very fast rate of
speed' from a high altitude, says the report."
       "A copy of the one-page form, entitled UFO
Procedures, was provided to Canadian Press by Chris
Rutkowski of the Winnipeg-based group, Ufology Research of
Manitoba (UROM)."
       "Rutkowski, a longtime tracker of UFO sightings,
obtained the report from the (Canadian) federal Transport
Department, which routinely forwards him data on
unidentified flying objects."
       "So was an extraterrestrial envoy trying to convey a
message to Canada's new leader?"
       "Unlikely, says Rutkowski.  What those on Martin's
plane saw that night was almost certainly a chunk of a
comet or an asteroid that entered Earth's atmosphere and
burned up."
       "An amateur astronomer in Calgary captured the
blazing streak in a video.  And it appears one or more
such fireballs were seen by people across the Prairies and
as far east as Quebec."
       "In any event, it's unclear if Martin or his aides
even glimpsed the object that crossed the plane's path.  A
spokesperson for the Prime Minister's Office said he had
no additional information."
       "Ufology Research of Manitoba publishes an annual
study of UFO sightings in Canada, including many cases
involving meteors.  The group's 2003 survey found a record
673 reports of unidentified flying objects made to various
organizations and investigators in Canada."  (See the
Canadian Press of March 20, 2004, "Martin has close
encounter with UFO."  Many thanks to Jim Hickman for this
newspaper article.  Be sure to visit Jim's Web site at
http://www.thehickmanreport.com)


THOUSANDS SEE FIREBALL
CROSS QUEENSLAND SKIES

       "Residents of the Outback town of Winton," in
Australia's Queensland state, "saw a flash 'like 50,000
floodlights' as a large fireball crashed to Earth
somewhere in central Queensland late yesterday (Wednesday,
March 31, 2004)."
       "Authorities are trying to track down the source of a
large fireball seen in the sky over the state's north and
central west."
       "Speculation has ranged from space junk to a
satellite."
       "'We only know it wasn't an aircraft,' a spokesman
for the Australian Parks and Reserves Organization said."
       "But, in Winton, Elsa Nelms and her partner, Graeme
East, had front row seats for the spectacular light show,
sitting on their verandah at dusk, talking business with a
friend."
       "'Suddenly, there was this flash, it's the only way I
can describe it--it was so bright it was a white flash and
it lit everything up,' Ms. Nelms said."
       "'It was like somebody had turned on 50,000
spotlights.'"
       "'We all looked up in the sky, and there was a white
smoke trail coming from the northeast--like a familiar
smoke trail but it was too high to ever be an aircraft.'"
       "Ms. Nelms said she had gone into her backyard to
lock her dog in when the house shook."
       Winton, Qlnd. is located about 600 kilometers (360
miles) northwest of Brisbane.  (See The Age of Melbourne
for April 1, 2004, "Fireball crashes to Earth in
Queensland."  Many thanks to Trevor Griffett for this
newspaper article.)


UFO BUZZES MOTORISTS
NEAR GAWLER, S.A.

       On Saturday, March 27, 2004, at 8:15 p.m., eyewitness
T.B.W. reported, "I was driving north in my car and was
probably around half a kilometer (0.3 miles) from the
intersection" with Main North Road in Templers, a small
town near Gawler, South Australia.  "The object flashed
across the intersection at the top of a small rise from
east to west.  It lit up the top of the trees, but the
glow from it did not reach the road.  The object appeared
to be 20 meters (66 feet) off the ground, judging by the
height of the trees."
       "The road is straight.  A truck was travelling ahead
of me, and the object caused him to brake suddenly,
although he drove off quickly and didn't stop.  I pulled
over and got out.  Other people who were in their garden
came out and stood with me in the road, while it flew off
to the west over farmland, keeping level with the ground
as far as I can tell.  There was no sound from the
object."
       "It seemed to be round like a ball, glowing white
like phosphorescence.  There was a crescent moon in the
sky, and the object seemed to be about the size of a
newly-risen full moon."
       Gawler, S.A. is about 70 kilometers (42 miles) north
of Adelaide, the state capital.  (Email Form Report)


UFO FLOTILLA SIGHTED
IN TABIO, COLOMBIA

       On Wednesday, March 24, 2004, at 9 p.m., twenty
orange UFOs suddenly appeared over Tabio, a town located
30 kilometers (18 miles) northeast of Bogota, the capital
of Colombia.
       "Residents of the town observed the objects for 30
minutes," reported William Chavez, director of Bogota's
Contacto OVNI research group.  "The UFOs were described as
'bright lights, orange in color, and approximately 20 of
them.'"
       "Eyewitness Esteban Montenegro contacted our group
and said he had successfully videotaped the UFOs as they
maneuvered in the night sky over Tabio.  He also sent us a
close-up image of a large, powerful orange light, with
smaller white lights circling its middle like a belt.  The
video has been turned over to Contacto OVNI and the
Engineering Department of the University of the Andes in
Bogota for more detailed analysis."
       "Our group has received other videos which showed
similar UFOs hovering over the peak of Cerro de Huaika
(mountain) in northern Colombia."  (Muchas gracias a
William Chavez del grupo Contacto OVNI para esto informe.)


THREE ORANGE UFOs SEEN
IN KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA

       On Wednesday, February 25, 2004, at 11 p.m.,
eyewitness Abdullah S. "was sitting at a coffee shop in
Kuala Lumpur," the capital of Malaysia "when I saw three
orange lights flying in unison.  Two broke away and flew
all over the sky.  They travelled at a very high speed.
Then one joined the other, and they broke away again.
Then they both flew upward, becoming smaller and smaller
until they disappeared.  I would say I had them in view
for about 20 minutes.  I think they were at the same
flight level that airliners fly (35,000 feet or 10,500
meters--J.T.).
We have had UFOs in Malaysia before, but these were quite
striking.  They departed to the west over Kelang."  (Email
Form Report)


TWO NIGHT SAUCERS SEEN
IN BRADENTON, FLORIDA

       On Friday, March 26, 2004, eyewitness Jill E.
reported, "At approximately 7:50 p.m., while trying the
five-planet alignment over the moon, my 13-year-old son
and I noticed two saucer-like shapes heading towards us,"
as they were facing Palma Sola Bay in Bradenton, Florida
(population 49,504), located 20 miles (32 kilometers)
south of St. Petersburg.
       "They were appearing to be racing one another but
side by side, sometimes crossing each other's path," Jill
reported, "They were quite large, no blinking lights, no
sound at all, greyish in color."
       "When they were positioned just under the moon, they
turned sharply and headed south.  It looked like they
briefly slowed down over the baseball park (the park
lights were on--J.E.) and then rapidly headed southbound,
remaining next to one another but occasionally crossing
paths."
       "While they were side by side, they were in identical
formation and going at the same speeds.  One or twice,
when they crossed, it seemed that they got out of sync but
quickly went side by side again.  We watched them head
south until we could see them no longer from our balcony."
       "The sky was quite clear, some small, light clouds,
the temperature approximately 73 degrees (Fahrenheit), a
light breeze coming off the bay."
       "The shape of the crafts was almost almond, with some
type of haze surrounding them, moving very, very rapidly.
There were some distant planes in the sky, but none were
moving at any rate close to the speed these two crafts
were going."
       "I had a small map of the planet alignment that I was
holding up and trying to relate Jupiter and Saturn to the
left of the moon.  My son first saw the objects and yelled
at me to put the paper down.  They approached from the
west directly towards us but underneath the moon and
definitely closer to us than the planets and the stars.  I
would say that they were much larger than a plane that's
far away, and in the width especially.  I would venture a
guess that they were maybe around an altitude of 40,000
feet (12,000 meters).  They darted up and down and
horizontally in front of us for less than a minute and
then darted towards the baseball park, where they didn't
go directly over but more to the north side.  Almost as if
they hovered and then sharply flew north for a moment and
then took a serious turn and headed south very quickly."
       Jill described the saucers as "greyish, illuminated
from inside, with no lights or trails, just surrounded by
a brownish haze of sorts."  (Email Form Report)


BLACK HELICOPTERS STALK
TWO UFOs IN ELK, WASH.

       On Sunday, March 28, 2004, Holly McGrath reported,
"Beginning around 9 p.m., me and my boyfriend noticed two
low-flying objects moving north on the horizon" in Elk,
Washington state.  "The objects were lights, and they
appeared to be red and white.  They spun circles, ying and
yang type formations, as well as covering enormous
distances vertically.  The animals in the woods were going
nuts."
       "We began to experiment by flashing our front
floodlights at the object and, to our amazement, they
responded."
       "Two black helicopters were present and circling the
area on (March) 28th.  They also appeared to witness our
communication as their flight pattern abruptly changed.
The helicopters were not seen yesterday (Thursday, April
1, 2004)."
       "We were not home on (March) 29th but last night
(April 1, 2004) they were present and responding without
fail, although they continue to grow distant and appear as
yellowish stars now until they move."
       "We called friends to witness the phenomenon, and now
the witness tally is four.  Their (UFO) movements are
becoming harder to observe as their maneuvers appear
smaller the further away they get."
       Holly advises ufologists in the USA's Pacific
Northwest to "look to the Big Dipper (constellation Ursa
Major--J.T.) due north above the horizon and to the left
of the moon for yellowish stars that perform tight circles
in the sky.  There was a third object behind our home, but
it is no longer visible."  (Email Form Report)
(Editor's Comment:  Holly's sighting of the UFOs in the
vicinity of Ursa Major is very interesting.  UFOs have
been seen consistently disappearing in the region of space
between the stars of "the Big Dipper's handle."  This has
led some ufologists to speculate that there is an alien
stargate in a geosynchronous orbit above Earth in that
location, where the UFOs enter hyperspace on their way
home.)


CROP CIRCLES FOUND
ON NAMIBIA'S COAST

       "South African botanists say they have failed to
explain the mysterious round patches of bare sandy soil
found in grassland on Namibia's coastal fringe."
       "They looked at possible causes of the 'fairy
circles'--radioactive soil, toxic proteins left by
poisonous plants, and termites eating the seeds."
       "But tests failed to support any of these theories
for the 'rings,' which measure 2 to 10 metres (6.6 to 66
feet) in diameter."
       "For now, they say, they are left with 'fairies' to
explain the phenomenon."
       "Lead scientist Gretel van Rooyen is now exploring
the theory that, somehow, toxic elements are deposited in
the shape of a circle, making it impossible for plant life
to get established there, Agence France Presse reported."
       "'But even if we find them, how came they there is
the next problem--for the moment, we're left with the
fairies,' Ms. van Rooyen, a botanist at the University of
Pretoria, said."
       "Tests of soil samples taken from 'fairy circles'
found all to be negative for radioactivity, and desert
plants were successfully grown in the lab on soil on which
only milk bushes had grown."
       "As for termites, the team dug trenches up to 2
metres deep in and around the circles, but found no sign
of these insects or their nests."
       "'Fairy circles' occur in a broken belt in the pro-
Namib region, from southern Angola to the Orange River in
South Africa and have become so famous that they are
included in various (African) tours."  (See the Agence
France Presse report for March 31, 2004.  Many thanks to
Robert Fischer for this news story.)


WWII MEMORIAL COULD
BE AN AL-QAEDA TARGET

       "A construction fence stands sentry at the nearby
National World War II Memorial" in Washington, D.C.  The
memorial is located midway between Constitution Avenue and
the Tidal Basin, about a quarter-mile west of the
Washington Monument.
       "It's due to be dedicated on Memorial Day weekend
(2004) when up to one million visitors are expected."
       "The National World War II Memorial opens to the
public next month, although it will not be dedicated until
(Saturday) May 29 (2004), just before Memorial Day."
       "Prominently situated on the National Mall between
the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument, the
handsome memorial honors the 16 million veterans and more
than 400,000 members of the (USA's) armed forces who died
in World War II.  It also pays homage to those supporting
the war effort on the home front."
       "A plaza, paved in granite and flanked by two arches
representing the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, the two
sides of the (North American) continent, is the central
element of the 7.4-acre site, complemented by fountains
and pools."
       "Fifty-six granite pillars representing the 1940s-era
states, territories and the District of Columbia are
connected by a bronze rope that symbolizes the bonding of
their citizens."
       "Two dozen bronze bas-relief panels along the
ceremonial entrance depict domestic and foreign scenes
from the war years."
       However, like its neighbor on the Mall, the
Washington Monument, the new memorial is fraught with
Masonic symbolism, which might make it a target for
Islamic extremists or the Al-Qaeda terrorist group.
       "In the original blueprints for Washington D.C.,
French architect Pierre L'Enfant, who was also a Mason,
envisioned today's Mall as a 'Grand Avenue,' shooting east
and west from the Washington Monument, intended to be the
heart of the capital," UFO Roundup editor Joseph Trainor
explained.  "From the air, the National World War II
Memorial resembles a solar temple of ancient times.  A
kind of Stonehenge on the Potomac."
       "The two arches are positioned north and south of the
reflecting pool," Trainor added.  "The choice of arches is
interesting.  In his book, The Secret Architecture of Our
Nation's Capital, David Ovason points out that the Royal
Arch in Freemasonry is symbolic of the 'arch' of the
Zodiac.  The layout looks like a direct lift from the
ancient Greek religion."
       According to Ovason, "One of the most influential
arcane texts from ancient times is the short essay, On the
Cave of the Nymphs by the Third Century A.D. Neoplatonist,
Porphyry.  It is a commentary on the mysterious cave on
the island of Ithaca (in Greece--J.T.), mentioned by the
Greek poet Homer in his Odyssey."
       "Porphyry recalls that the ancient philosophers
insist that in the heavens are two gates, one of which is
the Gate of Cancer, the other the Gate of Capricorn.
Cancer is the gate through which souls descend into
earthly birth, while Capricorn is the one through which
they ascend in the postmortem return to the spiritual
realm."
       The North/South arches in the National World War II
Memorial are reminiscent of the Greek heavenly gates,
Trainor said.
       "Another mystery is the number of pillars circling
the pool," he added, "It's supposed to represent the then-
48 states of the USA, its territories and possessions, as
they existed in 1941.  When I did that, I came up with a
count of 58, and that doesn't include the Marianas and the
Gilbert Islands.  So what does the number 56 stand for?"
       "In numerology, if you add 5 plus 6, you get the
number 11.  This number could be a symbol for the two
pillars, Boaz and Jachin, which stands in every lodge and
represent Solomon's lost temple.  The number 11 could also
be a symbol for the Twin Towers of New York City's World
Trade Center, which were destroyed on September 11, 2001."
       "The bronze rope encircling the memorial symbolizes
the Bronze Serpent, one of the rites of Freemasonry that
leads the initiate to the coveted 33rd degree."
       "Finally, there is the peculiar date of the
dedication--May 29, 2004," Trainor said, "Why that day?
Why don't they dedicate the memorial on May 8, 2005 or
September 2, 2005, which will be, respectively, the
sixtieth anniversaries of VE-Day and VJ-Day.  Or even June
6, 2004, the sixtieth anniversary of D-Day.  It's not even
Memorial Day, which falls on May 31 this year."
       In his book, Ovason points out that, at certain times
of the year, the Mall lies directly beneath Spica, the
brightest star in the constellation Virgo.  Occultists
consider Virgo one of the ruling astrological signs of the
USA.  Masons laid the cornerstone of the Washington
Monument at just such an auspicious time, on July 4, 1848.
       "This may explain why completion of the World War II
memorial was held up for almost six decades," Trainor
added.  "It's another case of Masonic stellar magic, just
like the Washington Monument.  They couldn't build it
right after 1945.  They had to wait six decades until 'the
stars were right.'"
       "Friedrich St. Florian, a Rhode Island architect,
designed the memorial, underwritten primarily by private
donations."
       "The Memorial Day weekend celebration will include
events across the city" beginning on Thursday, May 27,
2004.
       "Jim Deutsch, curator of the World War II Reunion
that will be staged on the National Mall, expects up to
800,000 people.  While tickets for the dedication ceremony
on May 29 are sold out, giant screens will be set up
between the Washington Monument and Seventh Street for up
to 30,000 people."
       "Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, Al-Qaeda's second-in-command,
was born in Egypt, is a nephew of the Grand Mufti of
Cairo, and joined the Muslim Brotherhood in the late
1960s," Trainor added, "I am pretty sure Dr. Zawahiri is
an initiate of the Egyptian mysteries.  As such, he is
probably hostile to anything that smacks of Scottish Rite
Masonry.  It would be just like him to try to disrupt some
Masonic hoodoo hootenanny.  Maybe set off a few bombs or
something.  It's no problem for Dr. Zawahiri to figure out
the exact moment to strike.  He has plenty of Sufi
astrologers at his beck and call." (See the Duluth, Minn.
News-Tribune for March 28, 2004, "Monument rises on the
mall," page 10D, and USA Today for April 2, 2004,
"Visitors to USA's capital find construction projects in
bloom," page 1D.)


FAYETTE FACTOR GOES
WILD IN PENNSYLVANIA

       Two more outlandish incidents erupted in Fayette
County, Pennsylvania last week, causing paranormal
researchers to puzzle over the sudden surge in weird
events in this predominantly rural area south of
Pittsburgh, Pa.
       The Fayette Factor is a little-understood phenomena
in which strange and bizarre incidents repeatedly break
out in areas named for Marie-Joseph de Motier, the Marquis
de Lafayette, one of the USA's Founding Fathers and a
prominent Freemason.
       In the first incident, a mysterious fire broke out at
an animal shelter in Fayette County's North Union
Township.
       "Crews rushed to battle a fire at the SPCA (Society
for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals--J.T.) Humane
Shelter in Fayette County, Pa."
       "Chopper 11 was live over the scene of the blaze in
North Union Township at 3 p.m. on Wednesday," March 31,
2004.
       "Dispatched crews received the call for help, saying
that the roof of the building was on fire and animals were
trapped inside."
       "Two people, an employee and a customer, were inside
the building when they were informed of the blaze and told
to get out."
       "After running out of the building, the two realized
that the doors had locked behind them.  They reportedly
broke glass to regain entry into the building and were
able to rescue some of the animals."
       "Shelter officials said 37 dogs were inside; 23 died
and 14 survived the blaze.  All four cats that were in the
building died.  Officials said all of the animals who
perished had died of smoke inhalation."
       "The surviving dogs were taken to local animal
hospitals for treatment."
       "A nearby shelter said it would assist in housing the
animals after they recover."
       "Flames destroyed part of the building, leaving a
large hole in the roof."
       In other news, "Police say one of three suspects
wanted for murdering a Fayette County man last week killed
himself when officials knocked on his door to arrest him."
       "Authorities have been looking for three men from
Cleveland for strangling Eric Thomas, 30, and stuffing his
body in a closet last Wednesday," March 24, 2004, "at a
house in South Union Township."
       "Authorities say Timothy Atwater, 25, tried to hide
in a Cleveland apartment building; but, as U.S. Marshals
closed in, he shot himself in the head."
       "Pennsylvania State Police last week issued arrest
warrants for Atwater and two other men in the March 24th
strangulation death."
       "State Police say Thomas was tied up, strangled and
then shoved in a closet.  Thomas' body was found by
another man that police say was lured to the house by
Atwater and the other two men and then beaten, bound,
robbed and shoved in a closet."
       "Authorities say they don't know where the two
suspects are."
       Cryptozoologist Loren Coleman commented, "It appears
that even in the most petty of crimes, media attention
comes to those, some of the strangest ones, that just
happen to have the link to the Fayette Factor, as for
example, this one here on Fayetteville Road in Durham,"
North Carolina.
       "A Durham man was arrested Thursday afternoon," April
1, 2004, "after he allegedly crashed his car into another
man's car and then allegedly ran the man over with his car
on Fayetteville Road near Woodcroft Parkway, police said."
       "According to a preliminary investigation, Jason
Green, 24, of 612 Martha Street saw his girlfriend and two
children in a car driven by another man around 12:03 p.m.,
police said."
       "Green allegedly chased the car on Fayetteville Road
and crashed into it several times, causing the other
driver to lose control of his car, police said.  The
Herald-Sun does not routinely identify victims of crime."
       "The victim's car then spun into a water-filled
ravine on the side of the road near a construction site,
police said."
       "When the victim got out of the car and started to
run across the street, Green turned his car around, drove
towards the other man and struck him, according to
investigators."
       "Police said Green then allegedly grabbed a 4-year-
old child out of the car and took a 1-year-old child after
a struggle with his girlfriend.  According to police,
Green then took the children to a relative's house and
returned to the scene, where he surrendered to police."
       "The victim was taken to the hospital for treatment
of leg injuries.  No one else was injured."
       "Police charged Green with assault with a deadly
weapon with intent to kill, inflicting serious injury and
four counts of assault with a deadly weapon.  He was taken
to the Durham County Jail on a $50,000 secured bond."
(See the WPXI-TV of Pittsburgh news broadcast for March
31, 2004, "Animal shelter catches fire;" the KDKA-TV of
Pittsburgh news broadcast for March 31, 2004, "Fayette
murder suspect shoots self in Ohio;" and the Durham, N.C.
Herald-Sun for April 1, 2004, "Man allegedly runs over
rival."  Many thanks to Loren Coleman for these news
stories.)
(Editor's Comment:  Last week, when I asked UFO Roundup
readers to "keep an eye on" Fayette County, Pennsylvania,
and asked rhetorically, "What's next?" I never, ever
counted upon such immediate and dramatic answers.  No
question about it--the Fayette Factor jinx is running red-
hot in that corner of Pennsylvania.  But why?  There's the
real mystery.)


THE PASSION BREAKS BOX-
OFFICE RECORDS IN THE
MIDDLE EAST

       Mel Gibson's controversial movie, The Passion of the
Christ, is breaking box-office records in the Arab
countries of the Middle East, winning raves from Muslim
religious leaders and stirring both Christians and Muslims
alike.
       In Kuwait, "a top Shiite cleric on Saturday," March
27, 2004, "urged Kuwait to let Mel Gibson's controversial
film, The Passion of the Christ, to be shown in this
predominantly Muslim state because 'it reveals crimes
committed by the Jews against Jesus Christ.'"
       "'We have called upon the (Kuwaiti) information
minister to release the movie,' the Ayatollah Mohammed
Baqer al-Mehri said in a press statement."
       "The ayatollah heads the congregation of Shiite
(Muslim) imams in Kuwait.  Cinemas in this small, oil-rich
nation in the Persian Gulf are owned by a state company,
and the Information Ministry has to censor and approve
films before they are screened."
       "The Ayatollah al-Mehri said Sunni Muslims, who
control Kuwaiti politics, do not approve of" actors
portraying "prophets in movies, but many Shiite senior
clerics have no objection.  It was not immediately clear
if the Kuwaiti government had banned the movie from
Kuwaiti cinemas" as a favor to the State of Israel.
(Editor's Note:  Muslims believe that Jesus is a Last Days
prophet of Allah, who will announce the return of the
Prophet Mohammed--peace be upon him--to Jerusalem right
before the end of the world.)
       "The Ayatollah al-Mehri said he has seen the movie
and believes that 'it is good, and there is nothing wrong
with it.'"
       "Jewish organizations, however, have described the
film as anti-Semitic and expressed fears that it would
cause attacks on Jews."
       In Syria, "The Passion of the Christ, accused by some
Jewish organizations of encouraging anti-Semitism, is
drawing a sizable audience while apparently touching an
emotional nerve in the Syrian capital, Damascus."
       "'Coming out of the theatre, I saw a lot of people in
tears,' reported Fayez Wehbe, who saw the film--with
Arabic subtitles--in Damascus."
       "Many scenes are in Aramaic, the language that was
dominant in the Holy Land at the time of Jesus," circa 30
A.D.
       "Moviegoers in Maalula and Saadnay, outside of
Damascus, were delighted," reported Ayesha al-Khatabi, UFO
Roundup's Middle East correspondent.  "Aramaic is their
native language.  They had no need of the subtitles."
       "Some members of the audience could not conceal their
astonishment on hearing expressions such as Ya Illah

(Aramaic for My God--A.K.) that are close to Arabic,' said
Wehbe."
       "Many Muslims enjoyed the scenes with Bibi Miraim
(the Virgin Mary, Jesus' mother--birth name: Miriam bat-
Joachim--J.T.).  In al-Quran (the Koran--J.T.), she is
described as a great prophetess of Allah, and an entire
chapter is devoted to her," Ayesha added.
       "Given its popularity in Damascus, a fourth showing
has been added to the three that had initially been
offered, with people buying tickets first thing in the
morning to be sure of getting a seat.  The film has
sparked reams of controversy because of its unflinchingly
graphic portrayal of Christ's crucifixion.  In some
quarters, it has been seen as promoting anti-Semitism by a
repulsive depiction of Christ's fellow Jews, while that
view has been strongly rejected by others."
       In neighboring Lebanon, the movie broke box-office
records in Beirut, the national capital.  "The film has
been warmly received.  Lebanon's Maronite Christian Church
has described it as 'impressive' and found it not to be
anti-Semitic."
       "'It is very sad, extremely impressive,' commented
Cardinal Nasrallah Sfeir, the spiritual leader of the
Maronite Church.  'We don't see any anti-Semitism there.'"
       "North of Beirut, in the predominantly Christian
region of Junieh, the film is selling well, although it is
off-limits to youth under the age of 15."
       In the West Bank, "Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat
watched the film at his headquarters in Ramallah and
pronounced it 'moving.'"
       On Sunday, March 28, 2004, The Passion "premiered in
the Persian Gulf nation of Qatar."
       "'We submitted The Passion of the Christ to the
(Qatari) Censorship Committee which has no objection to
its screening,' said Abdul Rahman Mohsen, the director-
general of a privately-owned Qatari film distribution
company.  'The committee usually censors scenes or images
depicting prophets from the holy books.  The film is being
shown three times a day in Doha and will be screened for
at least one month.
       "The film opened in Egypt and the United Arab
Emirates on Wednesday (March 31, 2004)," Ayesha noted,
"Thus far, there has been no political agitation against
the Jews, at least not in Islamic lands.  This is as it
should be, for it is written in al-Quran that should any
believer maliciously harm a Jew 'he will not even smell
the fragrances of Allah's Gardens of Bliss.'"  (See the
Arab news sources Al-Ahram and Al-Jazeera for March 29,
March 30, March 31 and April 1, 2004.  Many thanks to
Ayesha al-Khatabi for these news stories.)


SOUTH AFRICAN JEWS
WANT MEL'S SCALP

       "Mel Gibson's controversial film, The Passion of the
Christ, drew large audiences across the country" of South
Africa "this weekend (Sunday, March 28, 2004) and sharply
divided religious leaders."
       The Passion had the biggest opening since 1980's
Breaker Morant, an Australian film about the Boer War
(1899-1903).
       "The film, which opened in the U.S. last month
(Wednesday, February 25, 2004), was the highest-grossing
film for three weeks, raking in more than $300 million
around the world.  It is expected to become one of the
most profitable films of all time, a maximum payoff for
the Catholic Gibson, who gambled $30 million of his own
money to make it."
       "Diki van Zyl, marketing director for Nu Metro film
distribution, said the takings on opening weekend were
'beyond expectations.'  He said, although exact figures
are not yet available, Nu Metro cinemas throughout the
country teemed with moviegoers on Friday and Saturday,"
March 26 and 27, 2004.
       "George Strong, the manager of Cinema Nouveau in
Rosebeck," a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa's
largest city, "said the film had created a buzz the like
of which was last seen 'a very long time ago.'"
       "Madjie Jappie, an usher at Nu Metro Century City in
Cape Town, said: 'Some people cry when they walk out of
here.  Others, even if they're not physically crying, you
can see they are sad.'"
       "Cinemas in Krugersdorp, Polokwane and Bloemfontein
said churches were driving demand by making block
bookings."
       "'This is the first time we see church folk filling
up theatres to see a movie,' said John Ramatlama of
Bloemfontein's Ster-Kinekor (theatre)."
       "The film has sparked controversy because it appears
to blame Jews for the crucifixion and includes harrowing
scenes of violence."
       "South Africa's Chief Rabbi Cyril Harris and
Methodist leader Bishop Ivan Abrahams have spoken out
strongly against the film.  But the president of the South
African Catholic Bishops' Conference, Cardinal Wilfred
Napier, Port Elizabeth's Anglican Bishop Bethlehem Nopece,
Shembe church spokesman Enoch Mthembu and Pastor Ray
McCauley of Rhema (evangelical Christian) Ministries have
defended it as 'historically accurate.'"
       "Rabbi Harris said the film was 'very
disappointing.'"
       "'This film is so physical and brutal and so covered
in blood and gore that it smothers all the vestiges of
spirituality,' he said, 'Resurrecting this kind of thing
could be the spark for even more anti-Semitism.  I'm very
anxious that this again pins the blame on the Jews...for
killing Jesus,' he said."
       "Rabbi Harris said he would advise Jewish schools to
provide background to the movie so that Jewish children do
not 'get the wrong end of the stick.'"
       "The head of the Methodist Church in South Africa,
Bishop Abrahams, shared Harris's concerns, saying The
Passion of the Christ 'borders on heresy' and that he was
not advising anyone to go and watch it."
       "'We've worked so hard in this country to build
religious tolerance,' Abrahams said, 'In my view, the
movie unequivocably has an anti-Semitic slant.'"
       "But Cardinal Napier insisted the film did not
portray Jews in a bad light.  'The ones expressing
brutality are the Romans.  The Jewish priests were there,
but this is what the Gospels say, and we mustn't be
politically correct and try to change the historical
version of the Gospels,' said Napier."  (See The Argus of
Cape Town for March 30, 2004.  Many thanks to John
Gadsbury for this newspaper article.)
(Editor's Comment:  Hmmmm, this might be a good time to
watch one of my favorite movies on TV tonight...Napimosis:
Traitor to Pharoah...Ooops!  I mean, The Ten
Commandments.)


VIGILANTES HUNT VAMPIRES
IN SOUTHERN ROMANIA

       "Before Toma Petre's relatives pulled his body from
the grave, ripped out his heart, burned it to ashes, mixed
it with water and drank it, he hadn't been in the news
much."
       "That's the way with vampires.  Quiet lives, active
deaths."
       Villagers in Marotina de Sus, Romania "aren't up in
arms about the undead--they're pretty common--but they are
outraged that the police are involved in a simple vampire
slaying.  After all, vampire slaying is an accepted,
though hidden, bit of national heritage, even if illegal."
       "'What did we do?' pleaded Flora Marinescu, Petre's
sister and the wife of the man accused of rekilling him.
'If they're right, he was already dead.  If we're right,
we killed a vampire and saved three lives...Is that so
wrong?'"
       "Yes, according to the Romanian national police.  Its
view expressed by Constantin Ghindeano, the chief agent
for the region, is that vampires aren't real, and dead
bodies in graves aren't to be dug out and killed again,
even by relatives."
       "He doesn't really have much more to say on this
case, other than noting that Petre had been removed from
his grave, his heart cut out, and it was presumed to have
been consumed by his relatives.  Ghindeano added that
police were expanding the investigation, which began in
mid-January (2004) to include the after-deaths of others
in the area."
       "'The investigation is ongoing, and we expect to file
charges later,' he said, referring to possible charges of
disturbing the peace of the dead, which could carry a
three-year jail term.  'We are determining whether this
was an isolated case or whether there is a pattern in the
village.'"
       "Romania has been filled with news of the vampire-
slaying investigation, and villagers admit there's a
pattern, but they argue that that's the reason these
matters shouldn't make it to court.  There's too much of
it going on, and too few complain about the practice."
       "Vampire slaying is a custom that's been passed down
from mother to daughter, father to son, for generations
beyond memory, not just in this tiny village of 300 huts
astride a dirt cart path about 160 kilometers (100 miles)
southwest of Bucharest," the national capital, "but in
scores of villages throughout southern Romania."
       "Little has changed since the days that Turkish
invaders rolled through 500 years ago, seeking the mineral
riches of Transylvania just to the north.  By day, the
people are Roman Catholics.  At night, they fear the
strigoi or vampires."
       "On a recent afternoon, the village's single store,
which also serves as its lone bar, was filled with men
drinking hard as they explained the vampire facts.  Most
had at least one vampire in their family histories, and
many were related to vampire victims.  Most had learned to
kill a vampire while still children."
       "Theirs is not a Hollywood tale, and they laugh at
Hollywood conventions: that vampires can be warded off by
crosses or cloves of garlic, or that they can't be seen in
mirrors."
       "Utter nonsense!  Vampires were once Catholics, were
they not?  And if a vampire can be seen, the mirror can
see him.  And why would you wear garlic around your neck?
Are you adding taste?"
(Editor's Comment:  It might have helped if Abraham Stoker
had learned Romanian before he went on his railroad tour
of the Carpathian Mountains.)
       "No, vampires are humans who have died, commonly
babies before baptism or people unfortunate enough to have
black cats jump over their coffins.  Vampires occur
everywhere, but in busy cities, no one notices, the men
said."
       "Vampires are obvious when dug up because while they
have been laid to rest on their backs, arms folded neatly
across their chests, they will be found on their sides or
even their stomachs.  They will not have decomposed.
Beards will have continued to grow.  Their arms will be at
their sides, as if they are clawing out of their coffins.
And they will have blood--sometimes dried, sometimes
fresh--around their mouths."
       "But the biggest tipoff that a vampire is near is his
or her family, for vampires always prey on their families.
If family members fall ill after a death, odds are a
vampire is draining their blood at night, looking for
company."
       "'That's the problem with vampires,' said Doru
Morinescu, a 30-year-old shepherd who, like many in the
village, has a family connection to the current case.
'They'd be all right if you could set them after your
enemies.  But they only kill loved ones.  I can understand
why, but they have to be stopped.'"
       "Ion Balasa, 64, explained that there are two ways to
stop a vampire, but only one after he or she has risen to
feed."
       "'Before the burial, you can insert a long sewing
needle just into the belly button,' he said, 'That will
stop them from becoming a vampire.'"
       "But once they've become vampires, all that's left is
to dig them up, use a curved haying sickle to remove the
heart, burn the heart to ashes on an iron plate, and then
have the ill relatives drink the ashes mixed with water."
(Editor's Note:  Believe it or not, this actually happened
once in the USA.  In 1892, Mercy L. Bowen (1874-1892) died
of tuberculosis at the family farm on Nooseneck Hill in
Coventry, Rhode Island.  When Mercy's younger siblings
began seeing her prowling the farmyard after dark, weeks
after her death, and residents claimed that "something"
was sucking their blood in the night, angry farmers dug up
Mercy's remains, cut out her heart and burned it on a flat
pasture stone.  H.P. Lovecraft makes a brief mention of
Mercy in his story The Shunned House.)
       "'The heart of a vampire, while you burn it, will
squeak like a mouse and try to escape,' Balasa said, 'It's
best to take a wooden stake and pin it to the pan, so it
won't get away.'"
       "Which is exactly what happened with Petre, according
to Gheorghe Marinescu, a cheery, aging vampire slayer who
was Petre's brother-in-law."
       "Marinescu's story goes like this: After Petre died,

Marinescu's son, daughter-in-law and granddaughter fell
ill.  Marinescu knew the cause was his dead brother-in-
law.  So he had to go out to the cemetery."
       "Marinescu said he found Petre on his side, his mouth
bloody.  His heart squeaked and jumped as it was burned.
When it was mixed with water and taken to those who were
sick, it worked."
       "His wife, Petre's sister, interrupted his story with
a broom, swinging it at him.  She was worried that he
would incur the wrath of the police, who would jail him."
       "But then his son Costel called.  What happened next
was a miracle.  After weeks in bed, Costel got up to walk.
His head wasn't pounding.  His chest wasn't aching.  His
stomach felt fine."
       "'We were all saved,' he said, 'We had been saved
from a vampire.'"
       "But how could he be sure his illness came from a
vampire?"
       "'What other explanation is possible?' he asked."
(See the Duluth, Minn. News-Tribune for March 28, 2004,
"For Romanians, slaying vampires is in the blood," pages
1A and 9A.)


SPIRIT FINDS EVIDENCE OF
WATER ON MARS

       "NASA reported more signs of ancient underground
water on Mars" last week.
       "The rover Spirit found fractures filled with
waterborne salt sediments in volcanic rock at its Gusev
Crater landing site.  Spirit is one half of an $820
million mission to look for geologic evidence of water on
Mars" and the first of the two rovers to safely land on
the Red Planet in January 2004.
       Her sister rover "Opportunity found signs of an
ancient salty sea on the opposite side of Mars" two weeks
ago.  (See USA Today for April 2, 2004, "More evidence of
past water on Mars," page 3A.)


From the UFO Files...

1954: A MYSTERIOUS HUM AT
            CHALFONT ST. GILES

       "At Chalfont St. Giles, and at Leigh-on-Sea, Essex,
and possibly at other sites in Great Britain...there have
been unexplained noises which seem to come from
underground."
       "These noises were first heard in September, 1953.
They became very audible around Christmas, 1953.  The
sound was described as a persistent humming of deep
vibration and regular pulsation.  On occasion, it kept
people awake at night when the sounds intensified to a
noise like a plane 'revving up' its engines, or a motor
truck climbing a hill."
       So wrote Harold T. Wilkins in his book, Flying
Saucers Uncensored.  Fifty years ago, during April of
1954, one of Wilkins' correspondents visited Chalfont St.
Giles, Bovingdon and Hemel Hempstead to further look into
those mysterious reports.  This is what he found:
       "I can say with fair certainty that I do hear the
sound, but only faintly.  I hear a sound in various parts
of that area which I certainly do not hear elsewhere, and
it is always the same sound, and distinguishable from
other sounds."
       "It sounds to me like a very heavy machine working a
long way off, and it has a regular pulse of vibration,
which suggests that the machine passes through a regular
phase of vibration, or else there is a regular periodic
build-up of sound waves.  The unchanging pitch indicates
that the machine always runs at the same speed.  I know of
no normal machine which could do this, day and night for
months."
       "One cannot tell the direction of the sound.  It is
simply there.  One may lose it by moving a short distance
from a point where it is audible.  Go back to that point,
and the sound is still there."
       "Another odd feature is that Mrs. Craig, in
particular, and several other folk have searched for miles
in every direction, on foot and by car, no one has ever
succeeded to getting close to the cause of it."
       "It seems completely elusive.  One can go away from
it, but not apparently approach it beyond a certain limit.
Either it must be very deep below the surface or else--a
wild surmise--it might be located in a fourth dimension!
As a matter of fact, I do not get the impression that it
is subterranean in origin.  More like an effect of 'over
the hills and faraway.'  It is an oddly disturbing sound.
It is harsh, daunting and chilling."
       "I have listened for it at Bovingdon, near Hemel
Hempstead, in the still of night, but definitely it is not
there.  There must be some reason for it being heard in
the Chalfont area."
       "Near the bungalows are two large dells, close to a
lane.  I managed to enter one, but saw nothing very much.
And the sound did not appear any louder there.  I could
not enter the other dell, because of the perpendicular
sides bordering on the lane.  Also, both dells are on
private ground (private property in the USA--J.T.),
limiting one's movement."
       "This lane itself is one of the points where the
mysterious sound is audible.  It is in a small valley.
Going over a footpath up the slope, I lost the sound at
the top.  Returning down the slope, I got it again."
       "Mrs. Craig sometimes hears it very loudly, as if,
she says: 'It was going up and down the walls of the
room,' but even then, the sound always appears to come
from outside...from over there."
       Like the more recent cases at Round Knob, Illinois
and Kokomo, Indiana, here in the USA, the source of the
mysterious hum at Chalfont St. Giles in 1954 was never
found.  (See Flying Saucers Uncensored by Harold T.
Wilkins, Citadel Press, New York, N.Y., 1955, pages 161 to
167.)

       Well, that's it for this week.  Join us next time for
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#5780 From: "Beverly Fox" <fox7772000@...>
Date: Tue Apr 6, 2004 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: [SO] Dulce
fox7772000
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Aren't they saying the same about Phil Schneider who was tortured and
killed...ie.."he was crazy." Good way to discredit anything he
discovered or said. Did Paul know that Commander X do you think? He
hasn't been heard from in quite a while or are he and Paul one and
the same? Does anyone know? http://uforanks.com



--- In ufos-unbound@yahoogroups.com, dee777@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 4/4/2004 4:04:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> dexxxaa@e... writes:
> I'd like to add something I think hasn't been talked about or
> mentioned concerning the girl abducted by the Dulce group. While
her
> brief stay in their underground laboratory and witnessing those
large
> vats of blue swirl with human parts floating about, she also told
> Paul Bennewitz and Maj. Edwards, upon her return, the alien in
charge
> pointed out to her a vat that contained an intact body form of a
> different type of alien, probably belonging to another ET group,
had
> said to her this one was a personal enemy of his. Paul was repulsed
> by the ghoulishness of these aliens and wanted to rid the world of
> them. Paul's experiences with these aliens haven't surfaced
> completely in the public domain. I haven't told everything I know
> about Paul sorry to say, But his is a remarkable story. I'm sorry
> that because of his eventual breakdown and of his recent passing,
> excluding those who personally knew him, most researchers are now
> more inclined to think he was crazy all along. Discrediting an
> impressive individual who's exposure of the violating groups kicked
> off awareness of the siege mind set of these off world intelligence.
> Dex
>
>
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#5781 From: dee777@...
Date: Wed Apr 7, 2004 10:22 am
Subject: Re: [SO] Professor Chris French On Abduction Phenomenon
dee777_1999
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This is the kind of crap that is still being published. They just keep trying
to ask so-called
experts about stuff they have no knowledge of. When are they going to ask the
abductees directly?

Dee

In a message dated 4/7/2004 6:11:36 AM Pacific Standard Time,
skywatcher22@... writes:
Cross-posted from UFO Updates from Nick Pope...

From: Nick Pope <nick@...>
To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@...>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:26:19 +0100
Subject: Professor Chris French On Abduction Phenomenon


List,

As promised, here's the text of the interview that I conducted
with Professor Chris French, concerning the scientific study
into the alien abduction phenomenon. The study's being carried
out by psychologists from Goldsmiths College, University of
London. This interview was first published in the January 2004
issue of UFO Magazine.

Best wishes,

Nick Pope

-----

Much has been written about the alien abduction phenomenon, but
little scientific research has been done on the subject. Some
work has been undertaken in the USA, but little has been done in
the UK. All this is set to change in 2004, as a project to
investigate the phenomenon gets under way. Psychologists at
Goldsmiths College, University of London, are to look into this
controversial area. The study is to be undertaken by Professor
Chris French, Head of the Anomalistic Psychology Research Unit
at Goldsmiths Psychology Department. UFO Magazine caught up with
Chris French, and asked him about this work.

UFO Magazine: How did you first become interested in the alien
abduction phenomenon?

Chris French: My main area of psychological research is in what
has become known as "anomalistic psychology". This is the area
of psychology that attempts to investigate the kinds of bizarre
experiences that many people have reported throughout history
and in all known cultures but which have, until recently,
received scant attention from academic psychology. The
Anomalistic Psychology Research Unit
(http://www.gold.ac.uk/apru) was set up to focus research in
precisely that area. I have always had an interest in psychic
and related phenomena and used to read books on UFOs and stuff
from an early age. Although I started off as a firm believer in
the paranormal, it is no secret that I have become much more
sceptical over the years. Indeed, I currently co-edit The
Skeptic, the UK's longest running sceptical publication. By the
time the abduction phenomenon really took off in the 1980s, I
was no longer convinced that UFOs represented anything to do
with extraterrestrial intelligence - but still fascinated by
this multifaceted phenomenon which clearly requires an
explanation.

UFO Magazine: What are your current views on abductions?

Chris French: Although I am a "sceptic", I am open-minded enough
to admit that I could be wrong. So it is possible that some,
perhaps all, of these experiences really do reflect contact with
some type of extraterrestrial or transdimensional intelligence.
The problem is that none of the evidence put forward in support
of the ET hypothesis is compelling - there are always
alternative explanations. This does not, of course, prove that
the alternative explanations are the correct ones, but it does
make it legitimate to ask if we might gain some real insight
into the phenomenon by searching for other kinds of explanation.
I am a psychologist and it is natural for me to think in terms
of possible psychological explanations. Let me make it very
clear, however, that I certainly do not share the views of
uninformed sceptics who dismiss the whole phenomenon by assuming
that anyone who reports such experiences is either "stupid, mad,
or a liar." The evidence to date clearly refutes such a crude
approach as a general explanation. Whatever is going on in these
cases, it is much more interesting from a psychological point of
view than this dismissive approach would suggest.

UFO Magazine: What made you decide to undertake this study?

Chris French: Essentially, because there are still so many
unanswered questions. I do not think that either "believers" in
the ET hypothesis or "sceptics" could honestly claim that they
have definitively proven their case. There are lots of
interesting psychological factors that people have discussed as
being possibly relevant to explaining the phenomenon but
relatively few attempts to gather relevant empirical data. We
intend to help in rectifying that situation.

UFO Magazine: Can you give our readers an overview of the study?

Chris French: There are essentially three main aspects to the
study. First, we aim to administer various questionnaires and so
on that will provide data relating to the various psychological
factors that have been put forward as being relevant. In each
case, we will collect data from both a sample of abductees and a
control sample matched on such factors as gender and age. This
part of the study will basically attempt to follow up previous
studies that have often produced somewhat conflicting findings.
The second and third aspects of the study are completely novel
and follow up the findings of a recent Australian study. It was
reported that abductees report a much higher level of
experiences of a wide range of paranormal phenomena than the
general population. So the second strand of our project is to
administer some basic tests of psychic ability. If we actually
managed to show higher levels of psychic ability in abductees
than matched control participants, this would represent a major
challenge to any kind of explanation in terms of conventional
psychological approaches! But even if we do not find any
evidence of psychic ability with the tests we use, we accept
that this may just reflect a poor choice of test on our part. So
the third strand is a detailed interview with our participants
regarding their abduction experience itself along with any other
paranormal experiences they may have had. This will give a us
lots of useful information in itself, but will also inform us in
producing other tests of psychic ability in follow up studies. I
should emphasise that we very much see this study as exploratory
and we do expect to produce a definitive explanation on the
basis of the data we will collect. We intend to follow up this
phase of the research with further investigations in the future.

UFO Magazine: What are your timescales? When do you start, when
do you finish, and when will you publish your results?

Chris French: We have already started setting up the project.
Since October 2003, Rachel Fox has been assisting me in
preparing materials, setting up equipment, publicising the
project, and recruiting participants. In January 2004, Julia
Santomauro will begin actually collecting data. We will
hopefully have enough data within a few months to allow us to
carry out our analyses and draw some initial conclusions by the
end of July 2004. We then hope to present our findings at
relevant conferences and submit the results for publication.

UFO Magazine: Have you consulted with UFO researchers in drawing
up your plans for this study?

Chris French: We have indeed. We are really grateful to many
people for their support and input on this project, especially
James Basil, Nick Pope, Judith Jaafar, and Malcolm Robinson.
Needless to say, these people may not share my own view on the
most likely explanation for this phenomenon but what I think we
all share is a genuine desire to gain a better understanding of
what is really going on.

UFO Magazine: We understand that you're still looking for more
abductees to take part in the study. How should they get in
touch with you?

Chris French: Yes, we are still looking for more abductees to
take part. Any of your readers who have had such experiences and
want to discuss the possibility of taking part should contact
Julia Santomauro on 020 7919 7171, extension 4389, or email us
at apru@....

UFO Magazine: Will abductees be able to take part using
pseudonyms, and can you give some assurances about
confidentiality?

Chris French: It is absolutely fine by us if people would prefer
to use pseudonyms but we can assure all participants that, even
if they choose to give us their real names, confidentiality is
absolutely guaranteed.

UFO Magazine: Some abductees will be understandably nervous
about getting involved, especially given your reputation as a
sceptic. What would you say to such people?

Chris French: I fully appreciate why some abductees might feel
that way. There would be no point in me pretending that I am not
a sceptic regarding the ET hypothesis as my views on the subject
are quite widely known. Having said that, I am always ready to
admit that I might be wrong. I have deliberately taken steps to
guard against the possibility of my own views biasing the
outcome of this study in any way. For example, I am
collaborating with people who do not share my views - including
some experiencers, whose input on the project has been
invaluable. Dr Michael Thalbourne, a leading parapsychologist
from the University of Adelaide, is also involved. If the
results of our study show, for example, that abductees have
psychic abilities, then that is what we will report. I can
assure any readers who are considering taking part but feel
nervous about doing so that it is most emphatically not our
intention to belittle the experiences of those taking part.
Whatever the ultimate explanation of the alien abduction
experience, it is clearly a very profound and meaningful
experience to those who have it and we respect that.

UFO Magazine: Is there anything else that you'd like to say
about the study?

Chris French: I would like to thank the Bial Foundation of
Portugal for providing funding to support this project. As you
might imagine, raising funds for such an investigation has not
been easy given the generally dismissive attitude of the wider
scientific community towards such phenomena.

UFO Magazine: We wish you and your team every success in this
work. Once you've published the results of this study, will you
give another interview or write an article for UFO Magazine, so
as to brief our readers on your findings?

Chris French: Thanks for your interest and support. I'll be
happy to keep your readers informed of the outcome of our study.


Bill Hamilton
Executive Director
Skywatch International, Inc.
Website:
http://www.skywatch-research.org
Fiat Lux et Veritas


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#5782 From: dee777@...
Date: Wed Apr 7, 2004 12:07 pm
Subject: : NICAP website
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/7/2004 7:32:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, AlienWatcher777
writes:
The National Investigations Committee On Aerial Phenomena

The NICAP Mission Statement

The NICAP UFO web site is designed to be a primary internet UFO
evidence depository for special evidence and other important
information regarding serious UFO research. With the use of simple
directories the files are listed by Group or Category, in most cases
using a comprehensive list of events. This gives us a "work list" of
things we've accomplished and things we have yet to do. We ask that
anyone who has information regarding cases listed, but not found on
the site page, to contact us.

The search engine found on the Home Page is an awesome tool for the
researcher. Anything on the site server can be found, using this
great tool. And since we desire that all the important information be
found using this tool, we have decided to copy quality external sites
at least in text form, linking to the original site for comparison.
In the past we have seen very good UFO web sites go down for one
reason or another with all the work and graphics lost. Therefore the
NICAP plans to offer security in this area.

We encourage everyone to work towards both quantitative and
qualitative entries. . By filing the evidence into several
directories we have made it very easy to locate what we have or don't
yet have.

Case Book - Simply pick the year and click on the sighting link.
Anything not linked is work to be accomplished.

http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/casebook.htm
Categories - Looking for a sighting involving radar? Use this link,
then go to Cat/Group 9:

http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/special.htm
Researchers can quickly locate the topic of their choice. The
evidence selected is not only time-tested, but it is also qualitated
by keeping it isolated from the lights- in-the-sky" and other
candidates for IFO's. Rather than explain what else NICAP has to
offer, simply take a look.

Suggestions, comments, criticisms, are welcome.

Francis L. Ridge
NICAP Site Coordinator
Email me at: slk@...


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#5783 From: Conrad350@...
Date: Wed Apr 7, 2004 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: Re: [SO] Professor Chris French On Abduction Phenomenon
Conrad350@...
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It's quite evident why they won't ask abductees about their
experiences: they might (probably?) say something contrary to Official
Policy on UFO and might actually do it in a believable, sane adult, way.
I have no idea what Professor French said, whatever it was was probably
not relevant to reality. Official talking heads tend to be like that,
whatever the subject.

#5784 From: dee777@...
Date: Thu Apr 8, 2004 12:05 pm
Subject: Change the world : a worldwide referendum !
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/8/2004 1:52:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
alexlaugham@... writes:
Hello,

Let me present you something that you don't use to talk about :
the ET presence.

THOUSANDS OF WITNESSES CONFIRM THEIR EXISTENCE.

It is so important for yourselves and the people around you that I
dare today to introduce a WORLDWIDE REFERENDUM. It is not my nature
to bore someone else, and I hope I don't, but after the reading of
the message below (short version) you will understand what can occur
in our near future.

Whatever your interests are, don't underestimate the consequences of
your own choice for your own life. Everyone is directly concerned because
EVERYBODY IS HUMAN. THAT IS WHY YOU RECEIVE IT HERE AND NOW.
It is not a simple message, not only an other one among thousands
you have already received. This is a worldwide phenomenon ! The ET's
question is very simple :
DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?

A message has been telepathically received from ETs by a French jet
pilot, air traffic controller and airport manager, master in
economic sciences in new technologies. He actually works with
scientists (physicists) on the 3D time theory he has also
telepathically received from ETs. This theory is going to be a
scientific revolution. He uses a pseudonymous not to get publicity.
Hundreds of thousands people have reacted.

Just see all the available message translations (original long version : 11
pages) here :

http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/

The ET's deal is simple : "you don't have enough ET evidences, ask
us to give them to you, but be ready to change or abandon radically
your beliefs and points of view in order to become a real self-
empowered human fraternity able to get dangers far away".

Please, give you the time to read and read again this message.

Writers, analysts and reporters have already seriously considered
this ET message as a new turn for Humanity.
If you desire to discover dozens of links (websites, forums and
initiatives in more than twelve languages) speaking about the
message go to the above url second page :

http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/links.html

In addition, a discussion group has been created for those who have
requested to participate actively to the spreading of this historical
extraterrestrial communication :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meetetnow01/?yguid=171003091


Please, circulate this extraordinary message.

Sincerely,

A reader among others.

PS1 : Here is the list of the 57 countries where the message has
already been read for the moment :
France , Denmark , Brazil , Canada , Italy , Australia , United
States , Austria , Mexico , United Kingdom , Netherlands , Belgium ,
Germany , Argentina , Switzerland , New Zealand , Japan , Spain,
Sweden, Finland, Israel , Norway , Turkey , Estonia , Czech
Republic, Greece , Malta , Peru , Croatia , Uruguay , Poland ,
Chile , Romania , South Africa , Indonesia , Hong Kong , Hungary ,
Venezuela, Colombia , Bulgaria , Luxembourg , Saudi Arabia ,
Lithuania , Portugal , Singapore , Paraguay , Guatemala,
Philippines , Thailand , Malaysia , Costa Rica , SIovenia ,
Dominica , Lebanon , Dominican Republic , United Arab Emirates,
Russia.

PS2 : The ET's message (short version = selection of sentences from
the original version : 11 pages) :

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?" (short version)

Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And your answer as
a ballot!

Who are we ?

What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often
become possible, then realised, in particular in the last fifty
years. We are conscious creatures that some name "extra-
terrestrials", even though reality is subtler.
There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the
experience of certain stages of evolution. Like most of you, we are
in the quest of the Supreme Being. We have no human representative
on Earth who could guide your decision.

Why aren't we visible ?

Structured DEMATERIALISATION and materialisation are part of new
forms of science beyond the apparent control of matter. That you
call `UFOs, there are essentially multidimensional manufactured
spaceships that apply these capacities.
For negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the
exercise of power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is
motivated by their will to keep their existence and seizure unknown.
For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free
will that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that
they can reach technical and spiritual maturity on their own.
Humankind's entrance into the family of galactic civilisations is
greatly expected.
We can appear in broad daylight and help you attain this union. We
haven't done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it,
because of ignorance, indifference or fear, and because the
emergency of the situation did not justify it.
Who are you ?
You are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have
been mutually enriched by each others' contributions. The appearance
of your cultures seems to keep you separated because you substitute
it to your deeper being. Shape is now more important than the
essence of your subtle nature.
For the powers in place, this prevalence of the shape constitutes
the ramparts against any form of jeopardy.
You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it
for its richness and beauty. Peace does not mean not making war, it
consists in becoming what you are in reality: a same Fraternity.

What is your situation ?

Your history has never ceased to be marked by encounters between
peoples who had to discover one another in conditions that were
often conflictual. Earth has now become a village where everyone
knows everyone else but still conflicts persist and threats of all
kinds get worse in duration and intensity.
Your thoughts and beliefs are modelled after partisan interests to
turn you into slaves while at the same time giving you the feeling
that you are in total control of your destiny, which in essence is
the reality.
Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits.
The scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution - resources
which entry price will rise day after day - will bring about
fratricide fights at a large scale, but also at the very heart of
your cities and countrysides.
Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you
confident in your ability to find solutions. But the critical mass
is insufficient and a sabotage work is cleverly being carried out.
Tribes, populations and human nations have always encountered and
interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon
the human family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction
occurred.

Who are the "third party" ?

There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another
civilisation: via its standing representatives or directly with
individuals without distinction. The first way entails fights of
interests, the second way brings awareness.
The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping
mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene
pool and human emotional energy.
The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause
of the Spirit of service.
That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves
without any representative interfering. Peace and reunification of
your peoples would be a first step toward the harmony with
civilisations other than yours.
That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scenes
want to avoid at all cost because, by dividing, they reign! They
also reign over those who govern you. Their strength comes from
their capacity to distillate mistrust and fear into you. This
considerably harms your very cosmic nature.
Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you
to an alternative.

What can we offer ?

WE CAN offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life,
constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal
relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradiction of
suffering, controlled exercise of individual powers, the access to
new forms of energy and, finally, a better comprehension of
CONSCIOUSNESS.

WE CANNOT help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or
bring you laws that you would not have chosen, work on your own
selves, individual and collective effort to build the world you
desire, the spirit of quest to new skies.

What would we receive ?

Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice
over the safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the
universe, fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy of
knowing that you are united to accomplish what you are capable of.
The feeling of JOY is strongly sought in the universe for its energy
is divine.

What is the question we ask you ?

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"

How to can you answer this question ?

The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. This is why you should
calmly think about it, in all conscience. Do not rush to answer.
Breathe and let all the power of your own free will penetrate you.
You only need to give your answer, YES or NO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER
ASKING THE QUESTION !
In your own private polling booth of your secret will, you will
determine the future.

What is the lever effect ?

This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even
though it might seem like a minority. This request is one of the
most intimate that can be asked to you.
If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which is something that
we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what to choose, do
not say YES because of mere curiosity.
Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women
were able to influence the thread of events in spite of their small
number. Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on
Earth and influence the future of the majority, a small number of
you can radically change your fate as an answer to the impotence in
face of so much inertia and hurdles ! You can ease the mankind's
birth to Brotherhood.

What would be the consequences of a positive decision ?

For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favourable
decision would be the materialisation of many ships, in your sky and
on Earth.
For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many
certitudes and beliefs. Concretely, you would change the scale of
your values !
Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible
if such is your wish. For now, he who is hungry cannot smile, he who
is fearful cannot welcome us. We are sad to see men, women and
children suffering to such a degree in their flesh and in their
hearts when they bear such an inner light.
The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a
strictly spiritual nature and your current decision is extremely
simple :
we are technically equipped to materialise!

Why such a historical dilemma ?

We know that "foreigners" are considered as enemies as long as they
embody the "unknown". In a first stage, the emotion that our
appearance will generate will strengthen your relationships on a
worldwide scale.

How could you know whether our arrival is the consequence of your
collective choice ? For the simple reason that we would have
otherwise been already there for a long time at your level of
existence ! If we are not there yet, it is because you have not made
such a decision explicitely.
How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle
manoeuvre of the "third party" to better enslave you ? Because one
always more efficiently fights something that is identified than the
contrary.
Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul ! Do you
want to see us with your own eyes, or simply believe what your
thinkers say ? That is the real question!

You are still the architects of your own fate...

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"

Complete original message on www.geocities.com/meetetnow/

IF YOU WISH THEM TO SHOW UP :

You have to know that an increasing number of persons from
everywhere, from all religions, workers and doctors, poors and
richs, every one agreeing the ET proposal, participate to a
worldwide Global First Contact Experiment which will involve a
series of weekly visualizations details of the first of which are as
follows:
(Go to : http://www.exopolitics.org/First-Contact.htm )

Visualization:

Imagine yourself being asked by benevolent extraterrestrials the
question: "Do You Wish That We Show Up?" Say 'yes'! Then instantly
imagine luminous extraterrestrial ships appearing high over every
city of the planet for a period lasting seven days and nights. The
ships perform light displays that indicate universal greetings of
peace, joy and fraternity Š


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#5785 From: dee777@...
Date: Fri Apr 9, 2004 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [The W-Files] Change the world : a worldwide referendum !
dee777_1999
Send Email Send Email
 
In a message dated 4/9/2004 5:05:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
laughampeter@... writes:
Hello,

Let me present you something that you don't use to talk about :
the ET presence.

THOUSANDS OF WITNESSES CONFIRM THEIR EXISTENCE.

It is so important for yourselves and the people around you that I
dare today to introduce a WORLDWIDE REFERENDUM. It is not my nature
to bore someone else, and I hope I don't, but after the reading of
the message below (short version) you will understand what can occur
in our near future.

Whatever your interests are, don't underestimate the consequences of
your own choice for your own life. Everyone is directly concerned because
EVERYBODY IS HUMAN. THAT IS WHY YOU RECEIVE IT HERE AND NOW.
It is not a simple message, not only an other one among thousands
you have already received. This is a worldwide phenomenon ! The ET's
question is very simple :
DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?

A message has been telepathically received from ETs by a French jet
pilot, air traffic controller and airport manager, master in
economic sciences in new technologies. He actually works with
scientists (physicists) on the 3D time theory he has also
telepathically received from ETs. This theory is going to be a
scientific revolution. He uses a pseudonymous not to get publicity.
Hundreds of thousands people have reacted.

Just see all the available message translations (original long version : 11
pages) here :

http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/

The ET's deal is simple : "you don't have enough ET evidences, ask
us to give them to you, but be ready to change or abandon radically
your beliefs and points of view in order to become a real self-
empowered human fraternity able to get dangers far away".

Please, give you the time to read and read again this message.

Writers, analysts and reporters have already seriously considered
this ET message as a new turn for Humanity.
If you desire to discover dozens of links (websites, forums and
initiatives in more than twelve languages) speaking about the
message go to the above url second page :

http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/links.html

In addition, a discussion group has been created for those who have
requested to participate actively to the spreading of this historical
extraterrestrial communication :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meetetnow01/?yguid=171003091


Please, circulate this extraordinary message.

Sincerely,

A reader among others.

PS1 : Here is the list of the 57 countries where the message has
already been read for the moment :
France , Denmark , Brazil , Canada , Italy , Australia , United
States , Austria , Mexico , United Kingdom , Netherlands , Belgium ,
Germany , Argentina , Switzerland , New Zealand , Japan , Spain,
Sweden, Finland, Israel , Norway , Turkey , Estonia , Czech
Republic, Greece , Malta , Peru , Croatia , Uruguay , Poland ,
Chile , Romania , South Africa , Indonesia , Hong Kong , Hungary ,
Venezuela, Colombia , Bulgaria , Luxembourg , Saudi Arabia ,
Lithuania , Portugal , Singapore , Paraguay , Guatemala,
Philippines , Thailand , Malaysia , Costa Rica , SIovenia ,
Dominica , Lebanon , Dominican Republic , United Arab Emirates,
Russia.

PS2 : The ET's message (short version = selection of sentences from
the original version : 11 pages) :

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?" (short version)

Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And your answer as
a ballot!

Who are we ?

What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often
become possible, then realised, in particular in the last fifty
years. We are conscious creatures that some name "extra-
terrestrials", even though reality is subtler.
There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the
experience of certain stages of evolution. Like most of you, we are
in the quest of the Supreme Being. We have no human representative
on Earth who could guide your decision.

Why aren't we visible ?

Structured DEMATERIALISATION and materialisation are part of new
forms of science beyond the apparent control of matter. That you
call `UFOs, there are essentially multidimensional manufactured
spaceships that apply these capacities.
For negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the
exercise of power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is
motivated by their will to keep their existence and seizure unknown.
For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free
will that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that
they can reach technical and spiritual maturity on their own.
Humankind's entrance into the family of galactic civilisations is
greatly expected.
We can appear in broad daylight and help you attain this union. We
haven't done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it,
because of ignorance, indifference or fear, and because the
emergency of the situation did not justify it.
Who are you ?
You are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have
been mutually enriched by each others' contributions. The appearance
of your cultures seems to keep you separated because you substitute
it to your deeper being. Shape is now more important than the
essence of your subtle nature.
For the powers in place, this prevalence of the shape constitutes
the ramparts against any form of jeopardy.
You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it
for its richness and beauty. Peace does not mean not making war, it
consists in becoming what you are in reality: a same Fraternity.

What is your situation ?

Your history has never ceased to be marked by encounters between
peoples who had to discover one another in conditions that were
often conflictual. Earth has now become a village where everyone
knows everyone else but still conflicts persist and threats of all
kinds get worse in duration and intensity.
Your thoughts and beliefs are modelled after partisan interests to
turn you into slaves while at the same time giving you the feeling
that you are in total control of your destiny, which in essence is
the reality.
Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits.
The scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution - resources
which entry price will rise day after day - will bring about
fratricide fights at a large scale, but also at the very heart of
your cities and countrysides.
Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you
confident in your ability to find solutions. But the critical mass
is insufficient and a sabotage work is cleverly being carried out.
Tribes, populations and human nations have always encountered and
interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon
the human family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction
occurred.

Who are the "third party" ?

There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another
civilisation: via its standing representatives or directly with
individuals without distinction. The first way entails fights of
interests, the second way brings awareness.
The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping
mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene
pool and human emotional energy.
The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause
of the Spirit of service.
That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves
without any representative interfering. Peace and reunification of
your peoples would be a first step toward the harmony with
civilisations other than yours.
That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scenes
want to avoid at all cost because, by dividing, they reign! They
also reign over those who govern you. Their strength comes from
their capacity to distillate mistrust and fear into you. This
considerably harms your very cosmic nature.
Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you
to an alternative.

What can we offer ?

WE CAN offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life,
constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal
relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradiction of
suffering, controlled exercise of individual powers, the access to
new forms of energy and, finally, a better comprehension of
CONSCIOUSNESS.

WE CANNOT help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or
bring you laws that you would not have chosen, work on your own
selves, individual and collective effort to build the world you
desire, the spirit of quest to new skies.

What would we receive ?

Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice
over the safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the
universe, fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy of
knowing that you are united to accomplish what you are capable of.
The feeling of JOY is strongly sought in the universe for its energy
is divine.

What is the question we ask you ?

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"

How to can you answer this question ?

The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. This is why you should
calmly think about it, in all conscience. Do not rush to answer.
Breathe and let all the power of your own free will penetrate you.
You only need to give your answer, YES or NO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER
ASKING THE QUESTION !
In your own private polling booth of your secret will, you will
determine the future.

What is the lever effect ?

This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even
though it might seem like a minority. This request is one of the
most intimate that can be asked to you.
If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which is something that
we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what to choose, do
not say YES because of mere curiosity.
Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women
were able to influence the thread of events in spite of their small
number. Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on
Earth and influence the future of the majority, a small number of
you can radically change your fate as an answer to the impotence in
face of so much inertia and hurdles ! You can ease the mankind's
birth to Brotherhood.

What would be the consequences of a positive decision ?

For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favourable
decision would be the materialisation of many ships, in your sky and
on Earth.
For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many
certitudes and beliefs. Concretely, you would change the scale of
your values !
Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible
if such is your wish. For now, he who is hungry cannot smile, he who
is fearful cannot welcome us. We are sad to see men, women and
children suffering to such a degree in their flesh and in their
hearts when they bear such an inner light.
The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a
strictly spiritual nature and your current decision is extremely
simple :
we are technically equipped to materialise!

Why such a historical dilemma ?

We know that "foreigners" are considered as enemies as long as they
embody the "unknown". In a first stage, the emotion that our
appearance will generate will strengthen your relationships on a
worldwide scale.

How could you know whether our arrival is the consequence of your
collective choice ? For the simple reason that we would have
otherwise been already there for a long time at your level of
existence ! If we are not there yet, it is because you have not made
such a decision explicitely.
How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle
manoeuvre of the "third party" to better enslave you ? Because one
always more efficiently fights something that is identified than the
contrary.
Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul ! Do you
want to see us with your own eyes, or simply believe what your
thinkers say ? That is the real question!

You are still the architects of your own fate...

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"

Complete original message on www.geocities.com/meetetnow/

IF YOU WISH THEM TO SHOW UP :

You have to know that an increasing number of persons from
everywhere, from all religions, workers and doctors, poors and
richs, every one agreeing the ET proposal, participate to a
worldwide Global First Contact Experiment which will involve a
series of weekly visualizations details of the first of which are as
follows:
(Go to : http://www.exopolitics.org/First-Contact.htm )

Visualization:

Imagine yourself being asked by benevolent extraterrestrials the
question: "Do You Wish That We Show Up?" Say 'yes'! Then instantly
imagine luminous extraterrestrial ships appearing high over every
city of the planet for a period lasting seven days and nights. The
ships perform light displays that indicate universal greetings of
peace, joy and fraternity Š


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#5786 From: dee777@...
Date: Fri Apr 9, 2004 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: Area 51 Microbiologist Ready to Talk
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/9/2004 1:53:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ranger116@... writes:
Area 51 Microbiologist Ready to Talk -- About race specific man made
diseases, Aliens at Area 51 & Humans experimented on against their will
at Area 51  !

Address:http://www.greaterthings.com/News/ET/DanBurisch/PR040407/index.html

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/ET/DanBurisch/PR040407/index.html
Update on Dan Burisch
http://ufoconspiracy.com/news/dan_burisch_update.htm


Mystery S-4 Scientist Dr. Dan Burisch Is Alive!
http://rense.com/general34/alive.htm


BurischInternetSites
http://www.ufowijzer.nl/tekstpagina/BurischInternetSites.html


http://solder.ath.cx/Burisch/eagles/vol6.html


Bursich's Ganesh Particle Acknowledged By Caltech
http://www.rense.com/general33/searcasdh.htm


J-Rod And The Convergent Timeline Paradox
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_244.shtml


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#5787 From: dee777@...
Date: Fri Apr 9, 2004 9:42 pm
Subject: Re: [SO] Crop Circles - Unfakeable? Natural ? or ?
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/9/2004 6:11:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
auforn@... writes:
Hi Bill

Keeping you all informed
___________________

Crop Circles - Unfakeable? Natural ? or ?

After a three hour drive to the location and with the help of a
view local people in the area I was able to track down the crop
formation.  While there I meet and talked to many and listened
eagerly  to all kinds of stories. I found many had drawn their own
conclusion  as to what could have caused or created the crop
circles.

More of my report and new pictures at
http://www.hypermax.net.au/~auforn/Sunshine-Crop_Circle.html

Enjoy
--

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#5788 From: dee777@...
Date: Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:10 am
Subject: Re: On the matter of chemtrails
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/10/2004 5:11:57 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Sid_pennington@... writes:
All youse wonnerful friends and co-conspirators:
I'm by passing Yahoo egroups (specially re chemmies) and sending this
individually. My feelings about "Star Seed Kids" to say the least, mixed.  None
the
less, this is an important addition to our search for truth.
Bless us all,
Sib


From: "john g" <focus27jg@...>
To: <UFOFacts@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [UFOFacts] Digest Number 1053


> Dr. Boylan,
> Though this may be a bit off target, I was wondering if
you might be so kind as to give us your thoughts on the
'chemtrail' phenomenon. I have witnessed, with a strong
pair of binoculars, these unmarked tanker aircraft, flying
at high altitude, dispersing something from each side of the
tail. The engines are mounted on the wings, ruling out
contrails. AS well, I have seen craft emit normal contrails,
which dissolve, simultaneously observing other craft lay
down these things. I have watched a clear blue sky turn
completely gray in a matter of hours from this activity. I
have even accessed satellite photos showing this phenomenon.
> thank you.
> john

John, (and everyone),

Yes, you are right: "Chemtrails" normally is off-topic
for UFOFacts (and DrRichBoylanReports). But I have recently
come across information that places a new perspective on
Chemtrails that, in my view, bears a direct relationship to
UFOFacts' topics. Let me explain.
Although at first ambiguous, the evidence for an actual,
concerted, clandestine campaign by governmental or
paragovernmental aircraft systematically spraying aerosol
chemicals into the high atmosphere in regional criss-cross
patterns ("chemtrails") has now grown to undeniable.
While "chemtrails" are the fodder of the
conspiratorial-oriented e-lists on the Internet, it is
important not to throw the baby out with the bath water.
As some on this List will recall, I last year posted a
response I got about chemtrails from a "retired" Air Force
Colonel friendly to Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
interests. Colonel Ware blandly acknowledged that large
airplanes (some of them apparently Air National Guard
tankers) have indeed been spewing a chemical soup into the
upper atmosphere. He stated that far from"conspiratorial"
motives, the covert project had as its intention to reduce
the amount and intensity of the sunlight penetrating to
Earth, as a way of combatting global warming.
I will not go into a tirade here (unless requested)
about the stupidity of this proposed solution, as well as
its toxicity. Suffice to say, that if Project Chemtrails is
a sample of the genius coming out of the CFR, Bilderbergers,
and Trilateral Commission global "planners", then we all
have reason to "be afraid, be very afraid" about what other
"magic cures" they have in store for us.
But let me get to the connection with experiencers, Star
Kids and Star Seeds and other humans developing their higher
consciousness. Working with a Star Seed yesterday, I got
information about an even darker motive behind the
chemtrails.
As you may well be aware, many folks are working to help
balance and restore the energy ("ley") lines which
criss-cross the Earth and create a balanced energetic grid
that vitalizes and sustains all living things here.
As Earth and the people on it heads towards a Transition
largely accomplished by 2012, that the Mayans called "the
end of historical time" (as we have known it), and which
involves Earth shifting to a degree into an adjacent
dimension, less dense, more energetic, larger consciousness
"coefficient", where the calendar of human history will have
to start anew, there are many people now (2004),
"light-workers" if you will, who are working to promote both
the well-being and the "ascension" (raising of energetic and
consciousness levels) of Earth and its people. They are thus
helping accelerate Earth for the phase-shift Transition. In
the new "Fifth" World, there will be no more ecocidal
chemicals being used, like plutonium, uranium, petroleum
fuels, coal, or even natural gas as a fuel. The New Society
will not be based on competition, endess acquisition
(greed), vertical power concentrations, and segregation of
groups into "us" and "them" or "good" and "bad". The New
Society will be based on extended-family dynamics.
Oddly enough, there are some people who do not want this
Transition to occur. And some of these are extremely
powerful and enormously-wealthy persons, who form a
coordinated Cabal, who are desperately seeking to slow down
this Transition, and even stop it if possible. One of their
tools is sabotage. If they can sabotage the bodies and
consciousness of the Transition-helpers, the
"light-workers", then the Cabal can buy time, and even hope
to keep Earth anchored in its current third-dimensional
existence, with all the cruder attributes that currently go
along with that existence. In other words, more time to rule
over and expand their global "empire" (their hold on Earth).
Thus, the Chemtrails Project. The toxic stew that spews
out of those sprayer nozzles on the back of the aerial
tankers reportedly contains (highly-toxic) barium compounds,
ethlyene dibromide, blood cells and bacteria, aluminum,
(which crosses the blood/brain barrier, and has been linked
with Alzheimer's Disease,) titanium (a lung irritant), and
other substances. While the entire composition of
"Chemtrails" is not known, and in some reports varies some
from location to another, it seems clear that the wholesale
spraying of such massive aerosols above the Earth,
especially in populated regions, is an environmental
challenge, as well as a medical hazxard especially to
highly-susceptible populations, including young children,
the elderly, and those predisposed to respiratory problems.
Further, this Chemtrails spraying affects the Earth and
those who do beneficial consciousness work for the Earth.
The Star Seed I worked with noted that the Chemtrails serve
to disrupt the energy lines/grid of Earth, and impair the
ability of "light-workers" to utilize their full
consciousness in Earth-healing work.
The disruption of Earth's energy (ley) lines may be
related to the electroconductive properties of the Chemtrail
aerosols. Or the Chemtrails' chemicals may serve as an
energy-reflective barrier to help shape and intensify
weaponized energetic beams from HAARP and other scalar
weapons engineering systems, which may be being used to
disrupt Earth's natural flow-lines of energy, and at any
rarte clearly do so when powered up..
The affect of Chemtrail poisons on "light-workers" may
not be much different than on other persons - lung
irritation or infection, reduced energy, malaise, etc. It is
safe to say that light-workers cannot work as effectively or
as consistently under such chemical bombardment. And a
number of these chemicals accumulate in human tissue with
repeated exposure.
And as the Earth is impaired in its ability to recover
and reequilibrate from the insults of human activity, and as
the light-workers are impaired in their ability, health and
focus to aid Mother Gaia, so more "precious" time is bought
for the geoplutocrats to continue their power grasp of Earth
and its societies, and to prolong the unsustainable status
quo.

Richard Boylan, Ph.D.


Richard Boylan, Ph.D., LLC
P.O. Box 22310, Sacramento, CA 95822, USA


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#5789 From: dee777@...
Date: Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:17 am
Subject: Re: Mentally disturbed people?
dee777_1999
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In a message dated 4/9/2004 7:31:04 PM Pacific Standard Time,
snowlion8@... writes:
http://www.qedcorp.com/pcr/pcr/ufo.html

> After Effects:
>
> a. Burned areas or animals
>
> b. depressed or flattened areas
>
> c. Dead or "missing animals"
>
> d. Mentally disturbed people
>
> e. Missing items


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#5790 From: Sstoth0@...
Date: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:28 pm
Subject: Re: Re: On the matter of chemtrails
sheiladreami...
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The toxic stew that spews
out of those sprayer nozzles on the back of the aerial
tankers reportedly contains (highly-toxic) barium compounds,
ethlyene dibromide, blood cells and bacteria, aluminum,
(which crosses the blood/brain barrier, and has been linked
with Alzheimer's Disease,) titanium (a lung irritant), and
other substances.

Hi,  on Saturday, April 9, 2004 -- I started out to go to Safeway to get some
groceries and looked up at the sky and there were such unusual jet trails
that I went back inside to get my husband to look at them.  He doesn't want to
believe in them and didn't this time either.

But the shape of them was one trail curved in a huge *U* with a straight line
down the center of that.  The shape looked therefore sort of like a huge
trident.  I thought maybe skywriters had been writing something but this town
has
9,000 people and is not Los Angeles where there WERE skywriters....

We live directly under the approach of the small jets to the airport on the
edge of town and I see them fly over at low altitude when I'm out hanging
clothes on the clothesline in the morning a lot.  But what plane makes a U-turn?
The U was big -- filled the whole center part of the sky over our street.  It
looked vaguely like a swastika but the fourth leg was missing when you really
looked at it - the ends of the three legs curved slightly down.

It reminded me of those Supermen that Hitler was talking about.  But then I
looked at it more closely and it looked more like a Trident -- like the God of
the sea, Neptune would have.  This town is right on the West Coast of
California with ocean on both the west and south sides.  There's a giant trident
petroglyph on a cliff in England.

Sheila



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#5791 From: Sstoth0@...
Date: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:38 pm
Subject: chemtrails and alzheimers
sheiladreami...
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with Alzheimer's Disease,) titanium (a lung irritant), and
other substances.

Oh, I forgot my other point -- when we moved up here six months ago from Los
Angeles we were talking to the neighbors and found out that the people on both
sides of us had alzheimers!   Elmer on the east side's wife moved him to
Sacramento and the woman on the west side died of it.   This is the redwood
forest
area so makes you wonder what chemicals they might be spraying to keep the
sun from coming thru like Dr. Boylan said......



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