That's what is so exciting, it's almost as if the two elements(inner and outer)
are in parallel.
Jim

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry my English.
> It is double the the theoretic for a 40 cm ball. (with no feed , solid or not
but metall coverd on surface).
> I think the encreased capacitance is from all the spokes inside.
> /Sven
>
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, Sven.  Are you saying the capacitance is double what would be expected
> > for a solid sphere?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > David Thomson
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:15 AM, James <jimpat999@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Excellent Sven, this is sounding very exciting. Can't wait to hear how
> > > it's working.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > > Just for info:
> > > > I measure 51 pf 2.2m up from ground on my 40 cm ball feeded from inside.
> > > > It is about doubble pf for an ordinary sphere.
> > > >
> > > > /Sven
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

There is not much difference other than the orientation of the Aether units.

A gravitational wave is a wave of space, itself.  It is an Aether wave.
  Since the Aether is the medium for gravity, electrostatic force, and
magnetic force, a displacement of the Aether will cause a displacement in
all three forces.

Aether units have geometrical structure.  So if the force that initiates
the gravitational wave is a primarily electrostatic force, then the wave
will be an electrostatic wave.  If the force initiating the wave is a
magnetic force, then the wave will be a magnetic pulse.  No waves are
actually caused by gravitational effects, as the gravitational force is on
the order of 10^44 times weaker than the magnetic force and 10^42 times
weaker than the electrostatic force.

As we are now moving through the Milky Way magnetic plane where there is
lots of dust, we are likely to see a significant increase in electrostatic
waves.  Perhaps intense stellar activity on other stars, which also happen
to be passing through the magnetic plane, are causing ripples in the
Interstellar medium.

Dave



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On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, BeautyIsAGeek <toyotaokiec@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> This is probably a dumb question, but here goes:
>
> What is the difference between a gravitational wave and an electrostatic
> wave?
>
> TIA
>
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, Mike Gallardo <radiophiletec@...> wrote:
> >
> > electrostatic wave passed through... Hold
> > on to your wool hats....
> >
> > How about a steel wool hat???? :-) >Mike
> >
>
>
>


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Physicist: HAARP Manipulates Time

A brilliant physicist published a revolutionary paper citing 30 other
scientific papers that reveal HAARP has incredible powers far beyond
what most investigators of the high frequency energy technology
suspect. Dr. Fran De Aquino asserts a fully functional HAARP network,
activated globally, can not only affect weather and geophysical
events, but influence space and gravity…even time itself! Now the
network is almost complete with the activation of the newest HAARP
facilities at the bottom of the world: the desolate and alien
Antarctic. Will the masters of HAARP become the masters of time too?

Read more...
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/05/23/physicist-haarp-manipulates-time/

Hi Mike,

That's just a bunch of hype.  A lot of the information is flat wrong.  Time
does not dilate.  Einstein's theories along these lines are complete bunk.
  Time dilation theory is based upon outrunning or catching up to the speed
of photons (light).  A ship that outruns light moving away from Earth will
see television broadcasts from the past as they catch up to the ship.  But
when the ship returns to Earth, all the television broadcasts will be
arriving at the ship at faster than the speed of photons.  It is
the Doppler effect.  By the time the ship returns to Earth, the clocks of
the ship and the Earth will be synchronized once again.  No time dilation.

The generators on the Eldridge used rotating magnetic fields to scramble
the structure of space (and thus time).  HAARP does not generate rotating
magnetic fields.

The article is laced with photos of computer generated art and strange
cloud formations, but there is no scientific explanation showing the
relationships of the cloud photos with anything in the article.  Again,
this is just hype.

Dave



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On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Mike Gallardo <radiophiletec@...>wrote:

> Physicist: HAARP Manipulates Time
>
> A brilliant physicist published a revolutionary paper citing 30 other
> scientific papers that reveal HAARP has incredible powers far beyond
> what most investigators of the high frequency energy technology
> suspect. Dr. Fran De Aquino asserts a fully functional HAARP network,
> activated globally, can not only affect weather and geophysical
> events, but influence space and gravity…even time itself! Now the
> network is almost complete with the activation of the newest HAARP
> facilities at the bottom of the world: the desolate and alien
> Antarctic. Will the masters of HAARP become the masters of time too?
>
> Read more...
> http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/05/23/physicist-haarp-manipulates-time/
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Roger that-  THX  :-)  >Mike

On 5/28/12, David Thomson <aetherwizard@...> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That's just a bunch of hype.  A lot of the information is flat wrong.  Time
> does not dilate.  Einstein's theories along these lines are complete bunk.
>  Time dilation theory is based upon outrunning or catching up to the speed
> of photons (light).  A ship that outruns light moving away from Earth will
> see television broadcasts from the past as they catch up to the ship.  But
> when the ship returns to Earth, all the television broadcasts will be
> arriving at the ship at faster than the speed of photons.  It is
> the Doppler effect.  By the time the ship returns to Earth, the clocks of
> the ship and the Earth will be synchronized once again.  No time dilation.
>
> The generators on the Eldridge used rotating magnetic fields to scramble
> the structure of space (and thus time).  HAARP does not generate rotating
> magnetic fields.
>
> The article is laced with photos of computer generated art and strange
> cloud formations, but there is no scientific explanation showing the
> relationships of the cloud photos with anything in the article.  Again,
> this is just hype.
>
> Dave

Hi all
If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire (makes
noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann resonance
with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?

tnx /Sven

Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere.  Ground planes
don't work all that well at these frequencies.
Jim

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
> If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire (makes
noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann resonance
with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
>
> tnx /Sven
>

How were you grounding before?  If you had more than one grounding point, you
may have been experiencing one big ground loop?
Jim


--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@...> wrote:
>
> Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere.  Ground
planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> Jim
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all
> > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
(makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> >
> > tnx /Sven
> >
>

We're having our first perfect re-sets since April 5, before the two M8+ Sumatra
quakes.
Complete flat line.
Jim

... yes, but the small dipole worked without ground.
So , I thought I could do the same for the ball. But then I need two balls and
then it is not a sphere anymore , it is a dipole.
The dipole worked fine under absolute silent condition , but that is maybe 10%
of time.

Sven

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@...> wrote:
>
> Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere.  Ground
planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> Jim
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all
> > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
(makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> >
> > tnx /Sven
> >
>

Sven,

Try using the surface of the sphere as the ground plane.  Place a small
solid sphere as your antenna at the center of the spherical ground plane.
  You can use your present system of conductive spokes as ground wires to
the sphere's surface, but you may have to move them out of the way of the
inner sphere.  It is important for the inner sphere to be at the center of
the outer sphere.

This should work because the Schumann resonance is a spherical longitudinal
wave.  It is a fractal in the sense that the overall Schumann resonance is
reflected on smaller scales.

This way your ground plane is completely removed from the Earth's ground
plane and yet it is completely synchronized with the pure Schumann
resonance.

Dave

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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:19 AM, sm5le <sm5le@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi all
> If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
> (makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
> resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
>
> tnx /Sven
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks for keeping us updated.



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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:41 AM, James <jimpat999@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> We're having our first perfect re-sets since April 5, before the two M8+
> Sumatra quakes.
> Complete flat line.
> Jim
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

For the MineMaconi and fishingpole I did use "ordinary" stick in the ground. But
it was maybe a big ground loop from the feeding cable and stick-ground. When I
have fixed wireless conection (working on that) to SR frontend there will be
another thing.
Sven

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@...> wrote:
>
> How were you grounding before?  If you had more than one grounding point, you
may have been experiencing one big ground loop?
> Jim
>
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> >
> > Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere.  Ground
planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> > Jim
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
(makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> > >
> > > tnx /Sven
> > >
> >
>

Dave

Thats new , have not seen such before. Is it acting like a capacitor ?
Will the receivning pattern look scalar (no polarizattion).

Any ideea how they schould relate i size to each other ?

Vy tnx  /Sven

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@...> wrote:
>
> Sven,
>
> Try using the surface of the sphere as the ground plane.  Place a small
> solid sphere as your antenna at the center of the spherical ground plane.
>  You can use your present system of conductive spokes as ground wires to
> the sphere's surface, but you may have to move them out of the way of the
> inner sphere.  It is important for the inner sphere to be at the center of
> the outer sphere.
>
> This should work because the Schumann resonance is a spherical longitudinal
> wave.  It is a fractal in the sense that the overall Schumann resonance is
> reflected on smaller scales.
>
> This way your ground plane is completely removed from the Earth's ground
> plane and yet it is completely synchronized with the pure Schumann
> resonance.
>
> Dave
>
> David Thomson
> Secrets of the Aether <http://www.secrets-of-the-aether.com/joomla/>
> APM Mouse
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>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:19 AM, sm5le <sm5le@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
> > (makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
> > resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> >
> > tnx /Sven
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Exciting times ahead:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ulfelf/files/Jim%27s%20Folder/\
QX2_5-20_5-30c.GIF
Jim

Where did your high value resistors go, if not to ground?
Jim

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@...> wrote:
>
> ... yes, but the small dipole worked without ground.
> So , I thought I could do the same for the ball. But then I need two balls and
then it is not a sphere anymore , it is a dipole.
> The dipole worked fine under absolute silent condition , but that is maybe 10%
of time.
>
> Sven
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> >
> > Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere.  Ground
planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> > Jim
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
(makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> > >
> > > tnx /Sven
> > >
> >
>

There has to be a ground somewhere Sven, and if you've got 2 grounds you've got
one big ground loop unless you take precautions.
A ground loop can very easily obliterate the Schumann resonance.
Jim


--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@...> wrote:
>
> For the MineMaconi and fishingpole I did use "ordinary" stick in the ground.
But it was maybe a big ground loop from the feeding cable and stick-ground. When
I have fixed wireless conection (working on that) to SR frontend there will be
another thing.
> Sven
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> >
> > How were you grounding before?  If you had more than one grounding point,
you may have been experiencing one big ground loop?
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere.  Ground
planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all
> > > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
(makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> > > >
> > > > tnx /Sven
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi Sven,

The question of sphere proportions with concentric spheres (and concentric
cylinders) has been a question for people who have used them.  However, I
have not seen any definitive evidence that size matters with two spheres.
  The waves are longitudinal, so any frequency (and thus any size
proportion) should work.  However, as far as amplitude of the signal goes,
the larger the outer sphere is, the better.  Multiple nested spheres seems
to amplify the signal, and in those cases, proportions do seem to make a
difference.

I do not know if this is used by mainstream science, or not.  However, I
believe Tesla would have used this system at some point in his life.

Dave

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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:43 AM, sm5le <sm5le@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Dave
>
> Thats new , have not seen such before. Is it acting like a capacitor ?
> Will the receivning pattern look scalar (no polarizattion).
>
> Any ideea how they schould relate i size to each other ?
>
> Vy tnx /Sven
>
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sven,
> >
> > Try using the surface of the sphere as the ground plane. Place a small
> > solid sphere as your antenna at the center of the spherical ground plane.
> > You can use your present system of conductive spokes as ground wires to
> > the sphere's surface, but you may have to move them out of the way of the
> > inner sphere. It is important for the inner sphere to be at the center of
> > the outer sphere.
> >
> > This should work because the Schumann resonance is a spherical
> longitudinal
> > wave. It is a fractal in the sense that the overall Schumann resonance is
> > reflected on smaller scales.
> >
> > This way your ground plane is completely removed from the Earth's ground
> > plane and yet it is completely synchronized with the pure Schumann
> > resonance.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > David Thomson
> > Secrets of the Aether <http://www.secrets-of-the-aether.com/joomla/>
> > APM Mouse Pad<
>
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?gl=aetherwizard&rf=238560254407912435
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:19 AM, sm5le <sm5le@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all
> > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
> > > (makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture
> Schumann
> > > resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the
> ball ?
> > >
> > > tnx /Sven
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Also, what kind of computer are you using?  If you're using a PC(non-laptop),
and a ground stake, you have what amounts to as an earth dipole between the
ground stake and the PC.  That will cause all kinds of havoc, especially with
something as weak as Schumann.
A lot of the stuff I do entails amplification factors of over 50 million,
imagine what a ground loop of as little as 2 feet would do to that.
Jim




--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@...> wrote:
>
> There has to be a ground somewhere Sven, and if you've got 2 grounds you've
got one big ground loop unless you take precautions.
> A ground loop can very easily obliterate the Schumann resonance.
> Jim
>
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> >
> > For the MineMaconi and fishingpole I did use "ordinary" stick in the ground.
But it was maybe a big ground loop from the feeding cable and stick-ground. When
I have fixed wireless conection (working on that) to SR frontend there will be
another thing.
> > Sven
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > >
> > > How were you grounding before?  If you had more than one grounding point,
you may have been experiencing one big ground loop?
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere. 
Ground planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all
> > > > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
(makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> > > > >
> > > > > tnx /Sven
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Sven,

I'm no expert on the subject but agree with Jim the Ball shouldn't
be considered a antenna but a probe or stylus that samples the electric
field between the sky and earth. I use RG62 coax cable (because of lower
capacitance) to bring the signal to the detector. The shield is not
grounded on the tower the center conductor is the only connection.
In the house I only use as Jim suggested on ground from the same mains ground as
the PC. Another ground loop can be caused by the sound card
input shield against any ground if that's what you use. Take a look at
the  site below for a converter that will isolate the sound card.

http://www.techlib.com/newprojects.htm

Joe


--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@...> wrote:
>
> Also, what kind of computer are you using?  If you're using a PC(non-laptop),
and a ground stake, you have what amounts to as an earth dipole between the
ground stake and the PC.  That will cause all kinds of havoc, especially with
something as weak as Schumann.
> A lot of the stuff I do entails amplification factors of over 50 million,
imagine what a ground loop of as little as 2 feet would do to that.
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> >
> > There has to be a ground somewhere Sven, and if you've got 2 grounds you've
got one big ground loop unless you take precautions.
> > A ground loop can very easily obliterate the Schumann resonance.
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > >
> > > For the MineMaconi and fishingpole I did use "ordinary" stick in the
ground. But it was maybe a big ground loop from the feeding cable and
stick-ground. When I have fixed wireless conection (working on that) to SR
frontend there will be another thing.
> > > Sven
> > >
> > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How were you grounding before?  If you had more than one grounding
point, you may have been experiencing one big ground loop?
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere. 
Ground planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground
wire (makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tnx /Sven
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Dave, are you seeing anything in the data you follow that jives with the burst
re-set?
Starting at 0052 5-30, which also brings up the issue of the notorious 0000
hour.,
Thanks.
Jim


--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for keeping us updated.
>
>
>
> David Thomson
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> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:41 AM, James <jimpat999@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > We're having our first perfect re-sets since April 5, before the two M8+
> > Sumatra quakes.
> > Complete flat line.
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Yes, to minus on battery and to sourse of FET. That is a close cirquit but also
need to close the cirquit from "space" to reciever.
( I am not sure what I am talking about :)

Sven

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@...> wrote:
>
> Where did your high value resistors go, if not to ground?
> Jim
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> >
> > ... yes, but the small dipole worked without ground.
> > So , I thought I could do the same for the ball. But then I need two balls
and then it is not a sphere anymore , it is a dipole.
> > The dipole worked fine under absolute silent condition , but that is maybe
10% of time.
> >
> > Sven
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere.  Ground
planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all
> > > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
(makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> > > >
> > > > tnx /Sven
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Joe
I have an extreme situation, with many currents going into the ground and can
not use it (the ground) for Schumann reception. I have to go above the house
ceilings to get over the man made noise fog (floor). A floating ball with no
contact with the earth ground would be best.
And wireless conection.

tnx /Sven


--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "JOS C" <joeprice@...> wrote:
>
> Sven,
>
> I'm no expert on the subject but agree with Jim the Ball shouldn't
> be considered a antenna but a probe or stylus that samples the electric
> field between the sky and earth. I use RG62 coax cable (because of lower
> capacitance) to bring the signal to the detector. The shield is not
> grounded on the tower the center conductor is the only connection.
> In the house I only use as Jim suggested on ground from the same mains ground
as the PC. Another ground loop can be caused by the sound card
> input shield against any ground if that's what you use. Take a look at
> the  site below for a converter that will isolate the sound card.
>
> http://www.techlib.com/newprojects.htm
>
> Joe
>
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> >
> > Also, what kind of computer are you using?  If you're using a
PC(non-laptop), and a ground stake, you have what amounts to as an earth dipole
between the ground stake and the PC.  That will cause all kinds of havoc,
especially with something as weak as Schumann.
> > A lot of the stuff I do entails amplification factors of over 50 million,
imagine what a ground loop of as little as 2 feet would do to that.
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There has to be a ground somewhere Sven, and if you've got 2 grounds
you've got one big ground loop unless you take precautions.
> > > A ground loop can very easily obliterate the Schumann resonance.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For the MineMaconi and fishingpole I did use "ordinary" stick in the
ground. But it was maybe a big ground loop from the feeding cable and
stick-ground. When I have fixed wireless conection (working on that) to SR
frontend there will be another thing.
> > > > Sven
> > > >
> > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How were you grounding before?  If you had more than one grounding
point, you may have been experiencing one big ground loop?
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere. 
Ground planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground
wire (makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tnx /Sven
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Understand.
Sven

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Sven,
>
> The question of sphere proportions with concentric spheres (and concentric
> cylinders) has been a question for people who have used them.  However, I
> have not seen any definitive evidence that size matters with two spheres.
>  The waves are longitudinal, so any frequency (and thus any size
> proportion) should work.  However, as far as amplitude of the signal goes,
> the larger the outer sphere is, the better.  Multiple nested spheres seems
> to amplify the signal, and in those cases, proportions do seem to make a
> difference.
>
> I do not know if this is used by mainstream science, or not.  However, I
> believe Tesla would have used this system at some point in his life.
>
> Dave
>
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> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:43 AM, sm5le <sm5le@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > Thats new , have not seen such before. Is it acting like a capacitor ?
> > Will the receivning pattern look scalar (no polarizattion).
> >
> > Any ideea how they schould relate i size to each other ?
> >
> > Vy tnx /Sven
> >
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sven,
> > >
> > > Try using the surface of the sphere as the ground plane. Place a small
> > > solid sphere as your antenna at the center of the spherical ground plane.
> > > You can use your present system of conductive spokes as ground wires to
> > > the sphere's surface, but you may have to move them out of the way of the
> > > inner sphere. It is important for the inner sphere to be at the center of
> > > the outer sphere.
> > >
> > > This should work because the Schumann resonance is a spherical
> > longitudinal
> > > wave. It is a fractal in the sense that the overall Schumann resonance is
> > > reflected on smaller scales.
> > >
> > > This way your ground plane is completely removed from the Earth's ground
> > > plane and yet it is completely synchronized with the pure Schumann
> > > resonance.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > David Thomson
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:19 AM, sm5le <sm5le@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all
> > > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
> > > > (makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture
> > Schumann
> > > > resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the
> > ball ?
> > > >
> > > > tnx /Sven
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
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I thought you were using something similar to this:
http://www.vlf.it/immagine/_fig8.gif
The only thing I can think of is you've got ground loops, and if you don't
eliminate them, it won't matter what you do.
Jim

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, to minus on battery and to sourse of FET. That is a close cirquit but
also need to close the cirquit from "space" to reciever.
> ( I am not sure what I am talking about :)
>
> Sven
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> >
> > Where did your high value resistors go, if not to ground?
> > Jim
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ... yes, but the small dipole worked without ground.
> > > So , I thought I could do the same for the ball. But then I need two balls
and then it is not a sphere anymore , it is a dipole.
> > > The dipole worked fine under absolute silent condition , but that is maybe
10% of time.
> > >
> > > Sven
> > >
> > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere. 
Ground planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all
> > > > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no ground wire
(makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture Schumann
resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the ball ?
> > > > >
> > > > > tnx /Sven
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Sven, I am using the power ground on the electrical socket, how noisy is that? 
It shouldn't make any difference what your ground is as long as you have one. 
One, not two, unless you use some type of ground loop elimination scheme.
Jim

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@...> wrote:
>
> Joe
> I have an extreme situation, with many currents going into the ground and can
not use it (the ground) for Schumann reception. I have to go above the house
ceilings to get over the man made noise fog (floor). A floating ball with no
contact with the earth ground would be best.
> And wireless conection.
>
> tnx /Sven
>
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "JOS C" <joeprice@> wrote:
> >
> > Sven,
> >
> > I'm no expert on the subject but agree with Jim the Ball shouldn't
> > be considered a antenna but a probe or stylus that samples the electric
> > field between the sky and earth. I use RG62 coax cable (because of lower
> > capacitance) to bring the signal to the detector. The shield is not
> > grounded on the tower the center conductor is the only connection.
> > In the house I only use as Jim suggested on ground from the same mains
ground as the PC. Another ground loop can be caused by the sound card
> > input shield against any ground if that's what you use. Take a look at
> > the  site below for a converter that will isolate the sound card.
> >
> > http://www.techlib.com/newprojects.htm
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Also, what kind of computer are you using?  If you're using a
PC(non-laptop), and a ground stake, you have what amounts to as an earth dipole
between the ground stake and the PC.  That will cause all kinds of havoc,
especially with something as weak as Schumann.
> > > A lot of the stuff I do entails amplification factors of over 50 million,
imagine what a ground loop of as little as 2 feet would do to that.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There has to be a ground somewhere Sven, and if you've got 2 grounds
you've got one big ground loop unless you take precautions.
> > > > A ground loop can very easily obliterate the Schumann resonance.
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > For the MineMaconi and fishingpole I did use "ordinary" stick in the
ground. But it was maybe a big ground loop from the feeding cable and
stick-ground. When I have fixed wireless conection (working on that) to SR
frontend there will be another thing.
> > > > > Sven
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How were you grounding before?  If you had more than one grounding
point, you may have been experiencing one big ground loop?
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sven, you're going to have to have some kind of ground somewhere. 
Ground planes don't work all that well at these frequencies.
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "sm5le" <sm5le@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > > If I have a ball probe high up in the air (7m) and want no
ground wire (makes noise), how do you get a "return"? Can the sphere capture
Schumann resonance with only one line? Do I need a ground plane close to the
ball ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > tnx /Sven
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

The only thing that remotely coincides is a reduction in the buzz in the
Earth.  The buzz has actually been quite strong for the most of last week,
but it did quiet down, today.

I was spot checking seismometers around the planet and the buzz now seems
to be fairly constant and everywhere.  I noticed most of the USGS sites
have heavy filtering to try to hide it, but it is still very clear to me.
  Fortunately, there is still one network that does not filter the buzz, and
it is quite extensive.

http://rev.seis.sc.edu/stations.html

Dave



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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM, James <jimpat999@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Dave, are you seeing anything in the data you follow that jives with the
> burst re-set?
> Starting at 0052 5-30, which also brings up the issue of the notorious
> 0000 hour.,
> Thanks.
> Jim
>
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for keeping us updated.
> >
> >
> >
> > David Thomson
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:41 AM, James <jimpat999@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > We're having our first perfect re-sets since April 5, before the two
> M8+
> > > Sumatra quakes.
> > > Complete flat line.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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Ok, thanks Dave.  I know you follow a lot of things much more closely than I,
and I couldn't find anything looking out of the ordinary.
The flatline continues so I guess we're going to have some type of major burst
in the near future, with possibly quite large quakes to follow.
Thanks.
Jim


--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@...> wrote:
>
> The only thing that remotely coincides is a reduction in the buzz in the
> Earth.  The buzz has actually been quite strong for the most of last week,
> but it did quiet down, today.
>
> I was spot checking seismometers around the planet and the buzz now seems
> to be fairly constant and everywhere.  I noticed most of the USGS sites
> have heavy filtering to try to hide it, but it is still very clear to me.
>  Fortunately, there is still one network that does not filter the buzz, and
> it is quite extensive.
>
> http://rev.seis.sc.edu/stations.html
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> David Thomson
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>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM, James <jimpat999@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Dave, are you seeing anything in the data you follow that jives with the
> > burst re-set?
> > Starting at 0052 5-30, which also brings up the issue of the notorious
> > 0000 hour.,
> > Thanks.
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for keeping us updated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David Thomson
> > > Secrets of the Aether <http://www.secrets-of-the-aether.com/joomla/>
> > > APM Mouse Pad<
> >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:41 AM, James <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We're having our first perfect re-sets since April 5, before the two
> > M8+
> > > > Sumatra quakes.
> > > > Complete flat line.
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

This is interesting Dave.  I think we are going to want to keep a close eye on
the riometer.  The major burst of 4-6 was preceded by some pretty good riometer
activity.
Jim

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@...> wrote:
>
> The only thing that remotely coincides is a reduction in the buzz in the
> Earth.  The buzz has actually been quite strong for the most of last week,
> but it did quiet down, today.
>
> I was spot checking seismometers around the planet and the buzz now seems
> to be fairly constant and everywhere.  I noticed most of the USGS sites
> have heavy filtering to try to hide it, but it is still very clear to me.
>  Fortunately, there is still one network that does not filter the buzz, and
> it is quite extensive.
>
> http://rev.seis.sc.edu/stations.html
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> David Thomson
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>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM, James <jimpat999@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Dave, are you seeing anything in the data you follow that jives with the
> > burst re-set?
> > Starting at 0052 5-30, which also brings up the issue of the notorious
> > 0000 hour.,
> > Thanks.
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for keeping us updated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David Thomson
> > > Secrets of the Aether <http://www.secrets-of-the-aether.com/joomla/>
> > > APM Mouse Pad<
> >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:41 AM, James <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We're having our first perfect re-sets since April 5, before the two
> > M8+
> > > > Sumatra quakes.
> > > > Complete flat line.
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hmm, electron flux may also be worth looking at.
Trending low.
Jim

--- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jimpat999@...> wrote:
>
> This is interesting Dave.  I think we are going to want to keep a close eye on
the riometer.  The major burst of 4-6 was preceded by some pretty good riometer
activity.
> Jim
>
> --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@> wrote:
> >
> > The only thing that remotely coincides is a reduction in the buzz in the
> > Earth.  The buzz has actually been quite strong for the most of last week,
> > but it did quiet down, today.
> >
> > I was spot checking seismometers around the planet and the buzz now seems
> > to be fairly constant and everywhere.  I noticed most of the USGS sites
> > have heavy filtering to try to hide it, but it is still very clear to me.
> >  Fortunately, there is still one network that does not filter the buzz, and
> > it is quite extensive.
> >
> > http://rev.seis.sc.edu/stations.html
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > David Thomson
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM, James <jimpat999@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave, are you seeing anything in the data you follow that jives with the
> > > burst re-set?
> > > Starting at 0052 5-30, which also brings up the issue of the notorious
> > > 0000 hour.,
> > > Thanks.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In ulfelf@yahoogroups.com, David Thomson <aetherwizard@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for keeping us updated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David Thomson
> > > > Secrets of the Aether <http://www.secrets-of-the-aether.com/joomla/>
> > > > APM Mouse Pad<
> > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:41 AM, James <jimpat999@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We're having our first perfect re-sets since April 5, before the two
> > > M8+
> > > > > Sumatra quakes.
> > > > > Complete flat line.
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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