Glenn C. Flamik
Urban Forester
California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection
P.O. Box 944246
Sacramento, CA 94244-2460
916-651-6423

Terrific editorial from the Sacramento Bee!

Shades of Global Warming Fix
To hear techies tell it, the solution to global warming rests in fancy gizmos. That's why some venture capitalists are getting very excited about wind turbines, photovoltaic batteries, methane recovery systems and hydrogen-powered cars.

That's all fine, yet there's a more low-tech way to combat global warming -- by planting trees.

For the rest of the story, see
http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/14296592p-15149798c.html
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Glenn C. Flamik
Urban Forester
California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection
P.O. Box 944246
Sacramento, CA 94244-2460
916-651-6423

Glenn C. Flamik
Urban Forester
California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection
P.O. Box 944246
Sacramento, CA 94244-2460
916-651-6423

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----- Original Message -----

From: Melvin, John

To: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:31 AM

Subject: RE: [urbanforest] Aspen damage

Could it be a combination of very cold temperatures and the fire pit in a short time span?  My guess would be temperature extremes.

John Melvin, Forester I, Urban Forester

CA Dept. of Forestry & Fire Protection

5800 Chiles Road (USPS), 5950 Chiles Road (UPS, FedEx)

Davis, CA 95618

(916) 508-2767

(530) 758-3401 fax

RPF #2817, CUF #101, ISA #WE-5889A

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From: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:urbanforest@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Will Caplinger, City Planner
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:27 AM
To: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [urbanforest] Aspen damage

The attached photo shows Populus tremuloides growing near Mt. Shasta, CA. The entire grove consists of about 30 trees, but only 5 or 6 are exhibiting vertical cracks & bark separation--these are at the exposed edge of the grove--owner thinks it may be reaction to extremely cold downdraft last winter. Looks like it could either be frost cracks or a virulent canker? The trees are also near a burn pit, but owner believes that no fires have been large or hot enough to damage the trees. Any opinions will be greatly appreciated.

Will Caplinger
City Planner/Economic Development Specialist
City of Crescent City
377 J Street
Crescent City, CA 95531
707-464-9506
707-465-4405 fax

>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:45:15 -0700
>Subject: News: Grape Extract Used to Evict Roosting Starlings In Urban Settings
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/05/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/06njtrees.html

Environment
No Trees Were Harmed in Evicting These Birds

By JENNIFER WEISS
Published: August 5, 2006

ON a Monday evening late last month, a group gathered in the parking lot next to
the Hillsdale firehouse to see if three men armed with chemicals could solve a
conflict that for years pitted firefighters against birds and neighbors against
neighbors.

Starlings and sparrows, perhaps hundreds of them, roosted in the pear trees in
the parking lot. There they had annoyed the borough's volunteer firefighters,
who parked their clean cars in the lot only to drive them home covered with bird
droppings. The firefighters' concerns had been brought before the Borough
Council more than once.

"It's been a nightmare," said Fred Winkler, who after 59 years with the Fire
Department is its longest-serving member. "You get done with a meeting and you
come out and your car is covered. And if you don't wash it off that night, to
get it off the next day is quite a job."

Several years ago, the trees were pruned in an effort to unseat the birds. But
that did not work for long, said Fire Chief Max Arnowitz, who is also a
councilman; the birds returned with the new growth.

In October, Chief Arnowitz suggested at a council meeting that the trees be cut
down. Despite opposition from a number of residents, the council voted in
December to remove the trees and plant something else in their place.

But some residents continued to oppose the plan, phoning and e-mailing the
council to express their disapproval. Grace Behringer suggested that not all 18
of the trees be cut down, saying they helped maintain the small-town charm of
this Bergen County borough. "I like flora and fauna and appreciate what nature
gives us, and it always looks better than a paved parking lot," she said. Jack
Stubbs, the chairman of the borough's Environmental Commission, suggested that
the trees be pruned again, not removed.

"They are beautiful trees," Chief Arnowitz said. "It's just that it's very
frustrating."

So Chief Arnowitz said he was relieved when Hillsdale got an offer of free help
from Stuart Aust, the president of Bug Doctor Termite and Pest Control in
Paramus, which has a Bird Doctor division.

Mr. Aust said he called the borough after reading an article in The Record of
Bergen County about the conflict. He uses a product with methyl anthranilate, a
naturally occurring compound found in grapes, to repel starlings, sparrows,
geese and crows. (The manufacturer of the repellent, which is permitted in New
Jersey and Connecticut, intends to try to get it registered for use as an
aerosol in New York as well.)  Mr. Aust said he had used methyl anthranilate
with success at hospitals, refineries and homes, and even to drive geese from
his in-laws' backyard in Westwood.

That Monday evening, Jake Dickenman of Bird Doctor sent plumes of a methyl
anthranilate fog into the pear trees. A faint odor of grape juice turned stale
as the minutes passed. Birds darted from the trees individually and in small
groups. Bird Doctor came back to spray again the next night.

Salvatore Santamaria Jr. of Bird Doctor said the fog caused the birds to feel a
brief mild pain, the avian equivalent of a toothache. "The initial pain is
enough to get the birds to realize the area is no longer a desirable habitat,"
he said.

By the next Monday night, it seemed the birds had gone. The pear trees, which
had resonated with their raucous chirping, were silent. And the cars parked
beneath the trees were droppings-free.


Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

    * * *

http://www.apwa.net/Publications/Reporter/ReporterOnline/index.asp?DISPLAY=ISSUE\
&ISSUE_DATE=042006&ARTICLE_NUMBER=1257

Let them breathe grapes: starling control in Chattanooga

Gene Hyde
City Forester
City of Chattanooga, Tennessee

They came not by the dozens or even the hundreds, but by the thousands. In late
July 2004, I became aware of the excessive number of starlings roosting in the
zelkova trees in Chattanooga's central business district.

Previous attempts at starling control had been unsatisfactory. We tried thinning
the zelkova crowns by 25% to persuade the starlings to seek overnight shelter in
another location. We tried inflatable owls, noisemakers, and electronic bird
squawkers; none of the treatments worked for long.

More heavy-handed treatment options considered and rejected were poisoning
(unpopular with the citizenry), aversion tactics using pyrotechnic shells fired
from shotguns (the police department was horrified at the thought), predation
from peregrine falcons (they don't eat enough birds), and spraying the birds
with a detergent agent at 35 degrees Fahrenheit to induce hypothermia (banned by
the federal government).

Illustration Omitted:
	  Starling droppings (photo credit: Gene Hyde)

The European starling (Sturnus vulgaris) likes to inhabit urban landscapes (see
sidebar). Very intelligent and not easily deterred, starlings love to roost in
street trees, and therein lies the problem for city arborists. Starlings
defecate all over the roosting trees, sidewalks, cars, and anyone unlucky enough
to be underneath the tree!

The feces smell bad and can be a source of airborne fungal spores that can cause
respiratory diseases, such as histoplasmosis, in humans. And there is another
problem. Starlings can carry bird mites that bite humans, causing mild to severe
skin irritation. One Chattanooga apartment dweller experienced this and
ultimately needed treatment by a physician for infected bites. As fear and
infection spread through the immediate neighborhood, the residents and building
owners besieged City Hall with requests for the removal of city street trees in
their area.

I was finally given the order to start removing trees. Knowing that the trees
would soon be removed, I tried some radical experiments with thinning-up to 90%
of the crowns of some zelkovas-and removing every other tree. These radical
measures also failed to prevent starling roosting. By the end of 2004, the birds
had won the first round.

Illustration Omitted:
	  Fogging operations (photo credit: Gene Hyde)

In early 2005, I stumbled onto the website of a company that specializes in
expelling unwanted birds using a food grade ingredient, methyl anthranilate,
that is derived from Concord grapes. Using a specially designed hand-held
fogger, the chemical is shot upwards into the canopy of target trees at dusk, as
the birds are coming in to roost for the night. Although harmless to humans and
other mammals, this product is painful to birds when they inhale. After four or
five consecutive nights of being fogged, the birds associate the place of
treatment with pain and decide to roost elsewhere.

I checked the references of the company, and all seemed to be in order. A
contract was signed, plans were made, and a showdown was set for September 2005.
We chose two spots in desperate need of starling removal; operations began
promptly at dusk.

After four nights of fogging, the starlings in one of the areas got the message
very clearly and have not returned. There was less success in the other area,
probably because we were trying to fog too large an area and applied the fog for
only three consecutive nights.

The total cost was approximately $7,000 and included the purchase of a fogger,
four gallons of methyl anthranilate, and four days of onsite training in
Chattanooga. Some of this training involved the use of the fogger but most
centered on learning bird behavior, bird psychology, and the interaction of
starling family groups.

A question commonly asked is, "Where do the birds go after they are fogged?" The
best answer is, "Away!" Sometimes they leave the area entirely but sometimes
they roost in the next block, and it then becomes necessary to chase them away
from that location as well.

As with so many things, there is no magic bullet for starling control. But I
believe that fogging operations with methyl anthranilate hold promise for
long-term treatment in areas with high concentrations of humans, especially
where those people are concerned about chemicals, pesticides, and animal rights
issues.

I recommend that communities formulate a comprehensive plan for application
strategies for each nuisance bird species, a media plan, and notification
protocols for area residents and businesses before beginning such a highly
visible program. Additional information about methyl anthranilate for starling
control can be found on the Intranet or by contacting me.


Gene Hyde can be reached at (423) 757-7283 or hyde_gene@....

This article originally appeared in the January/February 2006 issue of City
Trees, the Journal of the Society of Municipal Arborists. It is reprinted here
with permission.


European starlings in North America

The 200 million European starlings (Sturnus vulgaris) now inhabiting North
America descended from 100 birds released in Central Park in the early 1890s.
The responsible party: a group dedicated to bringing to America all the birds
mentioned in the works of Shakespeare. Previous attempts to introduce starlings
in the American West were not successful. Today, their range spans the entire
U.S. and the southern half of Canada.

Starlings are associated with the built environment and roost communally at
night. They eat food waste as well as worms, fruits, and berries. Starlings like
to return to the same site every day to eat and usually return to the same nest
site every year.

Source: Cornell University Lab of Ornithology website, www.birds.cornell.edu

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A new study from Kathleen Wolf at the University of Washington.  This
could prove very helpful in dealings with transportation and public
works folks.  Here is a link to the PDF:
http://www.cfr.washington.edu/research.envmind/Roadside/TransSafety_Arb
UF.pdf

John Melvin, CDF Urban Forestry

Thanks Darla,

that sounds very interesting, I would be very happy if you could put us
in touch with each other.
GG

George Gonzalez
Chief Forester
Urban Forestry Div.
City Of Los Angeles
213-485-5675

TREES ARE THE LUNGS OF THE CITY.

>>> darla.mills@... 8/8/2006 11:07:14 AM >>>
George:  I have a non-profit in Atwater who is developing a nursery in
cooperation with a federal penitentiary.  They haven't started the
growing yet as they are still working on infrastructure.  It will be
13
acres of growing space.  If you are interested, let me know and I will
connect you with the appropriate individuals.


Darla Mills
Regional Field Specialist
Urban & Community Forestry
1234 East Shaw Avenue
Fresno, CA 93710-7899
559-243-4109

-----Original Message-----
From: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:urbanforest@yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of George Gonzalez
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:38 AM
To: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Ron Lorenzen
Subject: [urbanforest] contract growing of nursery stock

Hello all,

I'm looking for feed back from you on contract growing of nursery
stock
trees.

How successful has it been for you?

How many trees have you been contracting to grow?

What is your per-unit cost?

What size and species have you contracted to grow?

What nursery stock standards have you been using?

Any help that you can give me would me much appreciated.


George Gonzalez
Chief Forester
Urban Forestry Div.
City Of Los Angeles
213-485-5675

TREES ARE THE LUNGS OF THE CITY.



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                            September 12-14, 2006

                Southern California Forest Health Protection
                 Workshop, Poster Session and Technical Expo
                       Danny Rhynes Conference Center
                               San Bernardino

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George:  I have a non-profit in Atwater who is developing a nursery in
cooperation with a federal penitentiary.  They haven't started the
growing yet as they are still working on infrastructure.  It will be 13
acres of growing space.  If you are interested, let me know and I will
connect you with the appropriate individuals.


Darla Mills
Regional Field Specialist
Urban & Community Forestry
1234 East Shaw Avenue
Fresno, CA 93710-7899
559-243-4109

-----Original Message-----
From: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:urbanforest@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of George Gonzalez
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:38 AM
To: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Ron Lorenzen
Subject: [urbanforest] contract growing of nursery stock

Hello all,

I'm looking for feed back from you on contract growing of nursery stock
trees.

How successful has it been for you?

How many trees have you been contracting to grow?

What is your per-unit cost?

What size and species have you contracted to grow?

What nursery stock standards have you been using?

Any help that you can give me would me much appreciated.


George Gonzalez
Chief Forester
Urban Forestry Div.
City Of Los Angeles
213-485-5675

TREES ARE THE LUNGS OF THE CITY.



Yahoo! Groups Links

Thank you Gordon, this is good info. I can use some of this for the
report I'm writing listing the pros and cons of contract growing.
GG

George Gonzalez
Chief Forester
Urban Forestry Div.
City Of Los Angeles
213-485-5675

TREES ARE THE LUNGS OF THE CITY.

>>> gmann@... 7/27/2006 10:49:12 AM >>>
Hi George, I have looked into contract growing.  The nurseries
typically
wanted a larger quantity of plants than I personally could order and I
have looked at combining orders with other cities for generating the
minimum numbers.



The first trees I discussed with Boething to contract grow were
Frontier
Elms and I wanted at least 50.  It turned out that they grew several
hundred where they weren't available before (the reason I wanted to
contract grow), and I was able to buy them as I needed them.



  I just completed a purchase to contract grow 400 groundcover plants
for
our Recycled Water project. The plants will be ready in late
September,
on time for the project.  I would have contract grown 62 trees for
this
project but one of the 3 Eucalyptus species we were looking for wasn't
even available, and there wasn't time to get 24" boxed trees from the
time I would have placed the order.  We were able to find 15-gallon
trees in two of the three species.



The pricing for the contract grown trees was similar to the normal
wholesale prices I have been paying for previous purchases.



The need for contract growing is usually to place 50% of the costs up
front.  My operating budget can't handle this because the money wasn't
available to order "next year's" trees this year.  However, my Capital
Improvement Account could afford to order the trees a year out and was
the funding I would have used to buy all the trees for the group of
cities - if we were able to create the numbers to contract grow.



The thing I like about contract growing is that we dictate the species
that will be available instead of relying on the market which usually
responds to Landscape Architects and landscape contractors designs -
hence the availability of Magnolia graniflora and Liquidambar
styraciflua - 2 trees we no longer plant.



The difficult thing about contract growing for normal street tree
replacement planting is that you may not be able to use the species in
the numbers you pre-order.



If this is for the Million Trees initiative, you should be able to
pre-order the species you plan to use.  You may be able to work
agreements with neighboring communities to use any leftovers instead
of
ordering directly from the nurseries.  It probably takes between 12 -
24
months to get a 15-gallon tree, depending on species and if the
nursery
starts from seed, cuttings or bare root stock.



Gordon



Gordon Mann

Public Works Superintendent

City of Redwood City

Public Works Services Department

1400 Broadway

Redwood City, CA 94063

Phone: 650-780-7493

Fax: 650-780-7445

e-mail: gmann@... <mailto:gmann@...>



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From: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:urbanforest@yahoogroups.com]

On Behalf Of George Gonzalez
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:38 AM
To: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Ron Lorenzen
Subject: [urbanforest] contract growing of nursery stock



Hello all,

I'm looking for feed back from you on contract growing of nursery
stock
trees.

How successful has it been for you?

How many trees have you been contracting to grow?

What is your per-unit cost?

What size and species have you contracted to grow?

What nursery stock standards have you been using?

Any help that you can give me would me much appreciated.

George Gonzalez
Chief Forester
Urban Forestry Div.
City Of Los Angeles
213-485-5675

TREES ARE THE LUNGS OF THE CITY.

Hello all,

I'm looking for feed back from you on contract growing of nursery stock
trees.

How successful has it been for you?

How many trees have you been contracting to grow?

What is your per-unit cost?

What size and species have you contracted to grow?

What nursery stock standards have you been using?

Any help that you can give me would me much appreciated.


George Gonzalez
Chief Forester
Urban Forestry Div.
City Of Los Angeles
213-485-5675

TREES ARE THE LUNGS OF THE CITY.

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/25/rubber.sidewalks.ap/index.html

Tires help urban sidewalks bounce back
      Rubber panels withstand tree roots, weather better than concrete

Tuesday, July 25, 2006; Posted: 5:18 p.m. EDT (21:18 GMT)

Illustration Omitted:
	  Rubber sidewalks, like this one along Rhode Island Avenue in Washington, D.C.,
last longer than concrete.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Pounding the pavement is getting a little easier on people's
knees in many cities around the country.

For reasons of safety and ease of maintenance, Washington and dozens of other
communities are installing rubber sidewalks made of ground-up tires.

The rubber squares are up to three times more expensive than concrete slabs but
last longer, because tree roots and freezing weather won't crack them. That, in
turn, could reduce the number of slip-and-fall lawsuits filed over uneven
pavement.

The shock-absorbing surface also happens to be easier on the joints of joggers,
and more forgiving when someone takes a spill.

And the rubber sidewalks are considered more environmentally friendly: They
offer a way to recycle some of the estimated 290 million tires thrown out each
year in the United States, and they do not constrict tree roots the way concrete
slabs do.

"As our trees grow and mature sometimes the root systems begin to pull up the
sidewalks," said Michelle L. Pourciau, acting director of the D.C.
Transportation Department. "This is a compromise between having a beautiful and
healthy tree and having a safe and passable sidewalk."

Rubbersidewalks Inc. of Gardena, California, manufactures the small squares now
being used on some sidewalks in more than 60 cities, including Washington.

Since 2001, Rubbersidewalks has been grinding thousands of old tires into
crumbs, adding chemical binders and baking the material into sidewalk sections
that weigh less than 11 pounds a square foot, or a quarter of the weight of
concrete. The panels are available in two shades of gray and a terra cotta
orange.

Many of the squares have been installed in areas where damage from tree roots,
weather and snow removal have required sidewalk replacement or major repairs
every three years, said Lindsay Smith, founder and president of Rubbersidewalks.
Rubber sidewalks are expected to last at least seven years, Smith said.

The District of Columbia has spent about $60,000 to replace broken concrete with
the rubberized panels here and there in a residential neighborhood northeast of
the Capitol where towering willow oaks line the street.

"Maybe we won't have to worry about the cracks in the sidewalk when the seasons
change," Charlene Baker said as she walked with her daughter. She added: "If
this helps save the trees, that would be a good thing."

The panels are firmer than a running track or a rubberized playground, but far
more resilient than concrete.

Dr. Frank Kelly, a member of the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons in
Macon, Georgia, said people walking on the surface would be less vulnerable to
heel spurs and knee and back problems.

In 2004 the sidewalks in front of two homes in New Rochelle, New York, were
replaced after roots repeatedly caused concrete cracking and heaving. The rubber
panels have withstood two winters of snow shoveling, rock salt and repeated
freezing and thawing.

"Some of these trees are close to 100 years old and we wouldn't want to take
them down," said Jeffrey Coleman, New Rochelle's commissioner of public works.

About 100 feet of rubber sidewalk was installed in a town square-style shopping
area in Tallahassee, Florida, in 2003 as a temporary measure after a major root
pruning project.

"They wanted that to be in place for a year before we came back and put the
concrete in," said Tom Lewis, the city's street maintenance and construction
supervisor, "but the rubber has held up so well, we've just left it out there."


Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

***   NOTICE:  In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is
distributed, without profit, for research and educational purposes only.   ***

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Urban Forester
California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection
P.O. Box 944246
Sacramento, CA 94244-2460
916-651-6423

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Subject:        California Shade Summer Issue

<<Summer, 2006.pdf>>

Hi -- Check out the article on the Yahoo homepage on Rubber Sidewalks.
Now, they do more than save trees!  We have a new potential partner in
Urban Forestry...orthopaedic surgeons.
Dana Karcher

Thanks Rob...I will try to do that now.

Glenn C. Flamik
Urban Forester
California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection
P.O. Box 944246
Sacramento, CA 94244-2460
916-651-6423



-----Original Message-----
From: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:urbanforest@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rob Kerth
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:13 AM
To: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [urbanforest] This group is a good idea but there needs to be a
set up change


hi Folks,

To avoid getting spammed out like most Yahoo groups, I think you'll
need to change the settings to only allow members to post messages and
to require the memberships be approved by the group owner.

I'm on quite a few of these groups and it is the only way to survive.
  Without these settings, we'll get spammed hundreds of times a day.

Easy to fix and thanks for putting this together!

/Rob







Yahoo! Groups Links

I look forward to the new e-mail group and hope it is as well-used as
the Listserve.  Gordon

hi Folks,

To avoid getting spammed out like most Yahoo groups, I think you'll
need to change the settings to only allow members to post messages and
to require the memberships be approved by the group owner.

I'm on quite a few of these groups and it is the only way to survive.
  Without these settings, we'll get spammed hundreds of times a day.

Easy to fix and thanks for putting this together!

/Rob

looks to be working


-----Original Message-----
From: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Dana Karcher
Sent: Mon 7/24/2006 11:11 AM
To: urbanforest@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [urbanforest] Urban Forestry Group

Hey...some people in California are trying this out....







Yahoo! Groups Links

Hey...some people in California are trying this out....