Dear Ed:  Henry Pujarich, M.D., told me how he "discovered"
the papers of Nikola Tesla hidden away in a warehouse in
New York City. His story is that he obtained their release and
(as a person of Yugoslav ancestry) made arrangements
for them to be turned over to the Yugoslav government.
This could be an exciting aspect of Tesla history were
any further documentation to come forth.
      With respect to keeping secrets, as far as engineers
are concerned then why didn't anyone spill the beans
over at Alamogordo as the first atomic bomb was being
prepared for detonation (from the top of a steel tower
if I remember history correctly)? Especially the ones with
wives and children.  Why didn't ANYONE let the cat out
of the bag?  Because security personnel threatened to
take them out if they talked! I have that first-hand from
one of them during his retirement years in Palos Verdes.
                                                                HAL.
> "True... but the government did so illegally, because Tesla was a
> citizen, not an alien, so the alien property act
> should not have applied to his property. Various branches of the US
> military examined all of his notes in detail
> while the property was impounded, and there is not verified evidence
> that all of it was ever turned over to his
> nephew, IMO. The only reason that Sava Kosanovich even obtained Tesla's
> stuff was that the Yugoslavian
> government aided him in filing suit against the US Federal government to
> obtain these possession. I don't think
> that they obtained what was left of Tesla's belongings until 1956 or so.
> If this was the case, then there was 12-13
> years for things to disappear, if anything did, and I suspect that there
> was not a full accounting of everything to
> start with. However, I could be wrong... but you can bet if the Army or
> Navy found anything in Tesla's notes of
> possible military significance or potential, it would have been withheld
> as a matter of national security.
>
> JPM"
>
>  I agree on that last point.  However, if anything was found it's been
> kept under wraps for all these years and hasn't appeared in any
> operating systems. Having been involved in the classified systems
> business since 1945 I find it impossible to believe that anything "good"
> could have escaped public notice or, at least, notice within "the
> community".  People like to talk too much and engineers are the worst of
> the lot.  Still a subject for intriguing speculation.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

All,

The current issue of Industrial Physicist has an interesting article on
magneto-rheological fluids (MRF's) and electro-rheological fluids
(ERF's). An MRF is another name for a ferrofluid. An ERF changes
viscosity in the presence of an electrical field. Both are very
interesting things to play with with lots of potential applications. See:
http://www.tipmagazine.com/tip/INPHFA/vol-9/iss-6/p14.html

Best regards,

-- Bert --
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herzog@... wrote:

>          At 08:38 AM 11/26/03, you wrote:
>
>>        It's not obvious how the fluid would be used in a loud speaker
>>but such
>>fluids (rheological fluids or some name like that?) are commonly used
>>commercially in magnetic clutches.  Stuff is between two rotatable
>>plates and when it is subjected to a strong enough magnetic field it
>>becomes stiff enough to couple the plates so that they rotate together.
>>
>>Ed
>
>    You intuition is right, the speaker hoopla did not sell; and was darn
> expensive. Ah, Yes, you bugged my memory.  That Magnetic clutch was my
> interest for a project, making an automatically tuned 10 Kilowatt
> transmitter 2 to 30 MHz.  I was toying with having only one motor, the
> cooling fan, and running the rest off clutches, as faster and cheaper; but
> the clutches were over touted, so I fell back to 10 separate motors.
>   Now most auto air conditioners have magnetic clutches.
>
> Any how, the point I was trying to make, is that someone, somewhere has or
> still makes the magnetic fluids, and buying something is usually a lot
> easier than reinventing or making it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
> .
>

There was a dictionary put out by the Tesla Society in 1996 in which
these terms were defined.  This was called the "Tesla Dictionary of
Advanced Research Terminology".  I did most of the writing in it, which
was based on numerous interviews with inventors and scientists.  It is
available through www.onelook.com

At this point, i'd have to go back to the text, which is not available
on this computer.  But here is a synthesis of definitions which might
help.

Zero Point Energy:  A form of energy that is nonlocal in nature and thus
does not reside at a specific point in space.  It may possibly be a pure
form of resonance.  Best reference: Moray King

Free energy:  Ability to create energy with no economic, matter, or
other energy losses.  This should be regarded as strictly a theoretical
ideal.

On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, at 09:56 PM, herzog@... wrote:

> I am looking for a simple definition of the two terms.
> Obviously they mean something else than what I inferred that they mean
> to me.
> 1.  Zero Point Energy is ......?
> 2.  free energy is ....?
>
> I was challenging the list to come up with a definition of terms.
> It has to at least be enough of a definition to eliminate my answers,
> yet
> not a verbose snow job, which dodges the issue and clouds men's minds.
>       A definition of terms is needed to have any understanding, at any
> level.
> Will
>
> At 11:41 AM 11/25/03, you wrote:
>>            Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:45:51 -0600
>>    From: "David Thomson" <dave@...>
>> Subject: RE: Zero Point Energy now Quantified
>>
>> Hi Will,
>>
>> What specifically do you have difficulty understanding?  Saying
>> broadly that
>> you don't understand doesn't help.  I'd be glad to go into detail as
>> much as
>> I can.  I purposely kept my web page as close to the math and as free
>> of the
>> verbosity as possible.  But this discussion forum is a good place to
>> get
>> verbose.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: herzog@... [mailto:herzog@...]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:35 AM
>>> To: usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: [usa-tesla] Zero Point Energy now Quantified
>>>
>>>
>>>          At 02:01 PM 11/24/03, you wrote:
>>>> Zero Point Energy now Quantified
>>>
>>> Ok, now can it be defined, in a sentence; or does it still need a
>>> snowstorm?
>>>    To me it still means anything at absolute zero.
>>>
>>> Also, the term:   "quantify free energy".
>>> All energy came free, from the sun; the trick is to getting it to do
>>> something for me for free.
>>>
>>>      These two terms have generated many words, without having
>>> any defined
>>> meaning to help understanding.  I still need a shovel.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>
>
>
Michael Riversong
http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong
The Pure River Project: featuring free Celtic harp and other gentle MP3s
and radical ideas about music and culture

Thank you for the definitions.  I sure appreciate it.  Will
At 09:07 AM 12/1/03, you wrote:
>   From: Riversong Education <rivedu@...>
>Subject: Re: Digest Number 1444
>
>There was a dictionary put out by the Tesla Society in 1996 in which
>these terms were defined.  This was called the "Tesla Dictionary of
>Advanced Research Terminology".  I did most of the writing in it, which
>was based on numerous interviews with inventors and scientists.  It is
>available through www.onelook.com
>
>At this point, i'd have to go back to the text, which is not available
>on this computer.  But here is a synthesis of definitions which might
>help.
>
>Zero Point Energy:  A form of energy that is nonlocal in nature and thus
>does not reside at a specific point in space.  It may possibly be a pure
>form of resonance.  Best reference: Moray King
>
>Free energy:  Ability to create energy with no economic, matter, or
>other energy losses.  This should be regarded as strictly a theoretical
>ideal.
......end

At 11:37 AM 12/2/03 -0800, you wrote:
>
> I'm working on an alternative power machine that will pulse flyback
> transformer as fast as I can get them to fire, If you would please look over
> my circuit and point out areas that need improvements or if you could
come up
> with a better way. It has to sequencially fire 10 coils  as fast as
> electrically possible. I have a group site :
>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GeeksWanted>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/G
> eeksWanted
>
> Others are working with me on this, hope to have a working model soon
>
>
> When The Power of Love Overcomes
> The Love of Power There Will Be Peace
>
>      <http://www.MindofYahweh.com>WWW.MindofYahweh.com



Geeks have already inherited the world they just don't know it or more likely
just can't agree on what to do with it  :)

I looked at the "circut" on the link/s you provided & all I see is , with all
respect , a heavily modified & re-engineered version of the simple battery
free
, waterproof handheld flashlight that I was toying with in an electronics
store
the other day , inside the flashlights tubular handle it had an air coil & a
metal "slug" that passed thru the coil , when you shook it a bit magically
there was bright "white" light emitting from the diode at end of it , it
should
be somewhere on www.jaycar.com.au , it has (Faraday in  its name) a fairly
nifty
see thru device
made somewhere in China.......I was all cashed out so I couldn't buy one :(
Part number ST-3340

When you say you want to switch flyback tranny's as fast as possible , I'm
thinking of a solid state circut with ultra high speed diodes , transistors ,
big heatsinks peltier coolers etc & possibly switching devices like the mil
spec helicopter strobe light switch with a 0.5 microfarad 1500VDC capacitor
connected to it  (I have one here in front of me , no part numbers on the 4
wire strobe switch unfortunately , am I totally off base in reading your
question  or is the picture I'm seeing incorrect ?

Hmmmm....idea forming.....Fu**ing ABC & D , Revelation ,  Epifinay ,  Eureka ,
WOW ! etc
I now have the answer to converting the dirty crossed phase ~50Htz power I
have
been drawing up from the ground for all these years with my White Earth
Project
, by either cutting the torch apart or making my own coil & slug tube setup
from scratch  (I prefer the former) I can get a nice clean regulated supply of
useable power , way cool I can already see the initial setup in my head , it
should be good for a few hundred  milliwatts straight up....... I always knew
that a speaker with a 20watt , 20ft pound torque rating must be useful for
something other than making a 0 to 3000 Htz noise signal.I'll get 2 of those
Faraday flashlights pronto.......excuse the rant & curses , this has been a
very long project & frustrating project , and will shut up the local critics
for an awefully long time.I'll use the mechanical movement of the speakers to
drive the slug thru the coil... Woo Hooooooo !

When you say you want to switch flyback tranny's as fast as possible , I'm
thinking of a solid state circut with ultra high speed diodes , transistors ,
big heatsinks peltier coolers etc & possibly switching devices like the mil
spec helicopter strobe light switch with a 0.5 microfarad 1500VDC capacitor
connected to it  (I have one here in front of me , no part numbers on the 4
wire strobe switch unfortunately , am I totally off base or incorrectly
reading
your question about a "circuit"  or is the picture I'm seeing incorrect ?

BTW.
I like the idea of a global collective , working on a single open source
project , the technology would develop & come to a reality faster than they
did
during Ed's early radar days  & especially with  projects of this nature
combined with the global comms setup we now , just keep an eye out forthe team
of  black Chevvy Suburbans that appear to be following you  ;>

JB

At 11:37 AM 12/2/03 -0800, you wrote:
>
> I'm working on an alternative power machine that will pulse flyback
> transformer as fast as I can get them to fire, If you would please look over
> my circuit and point out areas that need improvements or if you could
come up
> with a better way. It has to sequencially fire 10 coils  as fast as
> electrically possible. I have a group site :
>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GeeksWanted>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/G
> eeksWanted
> 
> Others are working with me on this, hope to have a working model soon
> 
> 
> When The Power of Love Overcomes
> The Love of Power There Will Be Peace
> 
>      <http://www.MindofYahweh.com>WWW.MindofYahweh.com



Geeks have already inherited the world they just don't know it or more likely
just can't agree on what to do with it  :)

I looked at the "circut" on the link/s you provided & all I see is , with all
respect , a heavily modified & re-engineered version of the simple battery
free
, waterproof handheld flashlight that I was toying with in an electronics
store
the other day , inside the flashlights tubular handle it had an air coil & a
metal "slug" that passed thru the coil , when you shook it a bit magically
there was bright "white" light emitting from the diode at end of it , it
should
be somewhere on www.jaycar.com.au , it has (Faraday in  its name) a fairly
nifty
see thru device
made somewhere in China.......I was all cashed out so I couldn't buy one :(  
Part number ST-3340

When you say you want to switch flyback tranny's as fast as possible , I'm
thinking of a solid state circut with ultra high speed diodes , transistors ,
big heatsinks peltier coolers etc & possibly switching devices like the mil
spec helicopter strobe light switch with a 0.5 microfarad 1500VDC capacitor
connected to it  (I have one here in front of me , no part numbers on the 4
wire strobe switch unfortunately , am I totally off base in reading your
question  or is the picture I'm seeing incorrect ?

Hmmmm....idea forming.....Fu**ing ABC & D , Revelation ,  Epifinay ,  Eureka ,
WOW ! etc
I now have the answer to converting the dirty crossed phase ~50Htz power I
have
been drawing up from the ground for all these years with my White Earth
Project
, by either cutting the torch apart or making my own coil & slug tube setup
from scratch  (I prefer the former) I can get a nice clean regulated supply of
useable power , way cool I can already see the initial setup in my head , it
should be good for a few hundred  milliwatts straight up....... I always knew
that a speaker with a 20watt , 20ft pound torque rating must be useful for
something other than making a 0 to 3000 Htz noise signal.I'll get 2 of those
Faraday flashlights pronto.......excuse the rant & curses , this has been a
very long project & frustrating project , and will shut up the local critics
for an awefully long time.I'll use the mechanical movement of the speakers to
drive the slug thru the coil... Woo Hooooooo !

When you say you want to switch flyback tranny's as fast as possible , I'm
thinking of a solid state circut with ultra high speed diodes , transistors ,
big heatsinks peltier coolers etc & possibly switching devices like the mil
spec helicopter strobe light switch with a 0.5 microfarad 1500VDC capacitor
connected to it  (I have one here in front of me , no part numbers on the 4
wire strobe switch unfortunately , am I totally off base or incorrectly
reading
your question about a "circuit"  or is the picture I'm seeing incorrect ?

BTW.
I like the idea of a global collective , working on a single open source
project , the technology would develop & come to a reality faster than they
did
during Ed's early radar days  & especially with  projects of this nature
combined with the global comms setup we now , just keep an eye out forthe team
of  black Chevvy Suburbans that appear to be following you  ;>

JB

At 09:08 PM 12/2/03 -0600, you wrote:
>
> Hey Jet... calm down guy


I'm calm , no need to panic.I figure half a dozen planets in the cosmos must
have been aligned my way as a person in Finland caught a snowflake on their
tongue , resulting in a moment of sheer clarity & realization ,  when replying
to the first email , unfortunately I wasn't reading Faust (sp) poetry at the
time.No matter these moments turn up with surprising regularity.

>
> ... you'll blow a fuse!


  All 3 of my 500 amp motor start HRC fuse's are still unruptured  :)

>
> Good to hear from you but WoW did you lose me somewhere in the description.


Possibly because you have not seen the unconventional design of this
particular
ELF speaker , as I mentioned these "speakers" have a frequency response of DC
to 3000Htz & the ability to produce up to 20 foot pounds of torque , they are
not like "normal" speakers.I'll attach a .jpg of one & if I can find it I'll
snap up a picture of the one that I have taken apart.

>
> Those little permanent flashlights you were talking about.... I ordered two
> for Christmas
> presents, but they haven't arrived yet.


Give them an email asap asking what the holdup is  out of all the orders I
have
placed via the internet shopping mall section , only 1 has done a complete no
show & the other one order got lost by a small 2nd hand book seller who
immediately sent me the .mil pocket black book to add to my collection of
"little" field/desktop tech reference books.

>
>  So you are driving subwoofers with current that you are drawing from the
> ground some how, and then you will
> hook them up to a similar setup as the little flashlights use, to generate
> current? Or something like this... as I said... you lost me... but sounds
> interesting enough.


I am driving these ELF speakers from the 3 phase "dirty" mixture of all the
earth leakage currents that leave the local houses & factories via their earth
stakes. I have been trying to clean up this continual "free" power that
flows ~
4ft beneath the ground I walk on for years with _many_ interesting results
from
hearing 3D noise out of a single conventional X Ohm speaker , seeing a column
of local air distortion that looks very similar to the "clear light" heat haze
that rises from a fire & having the unsecured 1.5Kg ELF speaker bounce around
violently on my work bench as the edge of a thunderstorm passes overhead.All
very interesting stuff but it is of no real commercial value to the general
public.
Being electrically inclined I neglected the mechanical side of my
investigations of these speakers.I have now (finally) realized that by
attaching a simple lever system between the top of the ELF speaker & a
slightly
modified "faraday torch" from jaycar electronics one of those I can use the
ELF
speakers mechanical up & down movement to make the iron slug pass thru the
coil
to make this diode powered light run perpetually at no cost to myself. In time
I can develop this tangential idea I had & use my own coils & iron slugs to
make a much cleaner & more importantly _usable_ "free" power source.
This method will be considerably easier than trying to untangle the dirty
multi
cross-phased power that the ELF speaker/s can draw up from the ground via the
array of earth stakes/plates & underground pipes I have setup on my
property ,
Although they are all _supposed_ to be at the same "earth" potential , all of
them have a usable potential difference between them.

As you should be able to see on the attached .jpg this is not a "normal"
speaker.
A strong magnet with metal plates top & bottom is bolted between 2 fiberglass
flex plates , the fiberglass plates are the only flexible parts , everything
else is _very_ solid. The more input power I can draw = more up & down
movement
I can get. The internal coil winding inside the outer body is a curiosity by
itself  ~15 turns for the top plate & ~15 for the bottom plate on each side of
the magnet.The fiberglass plates have been seen to flex ~5mm each way during a
good storm , giving a total of ~10mm movement , without the assistance of
mother nature  I get a continual 4 to 5 mm total vertical movement , pending
which earth potential I hook the ELF speaker up to.

I hope you can now get a better understanding of why I was so stoked about the
new possibilities that have opened up to me for to get clean "free" or
"recycled" power ,  when the penny dropped , so to speak  :)

JB

In hindsight I feel like an idjut for overlooking such an obvious way to
convert one form of energy into another........, then again despite many
searches via the  www for information or data on projects like the White Earth
Project & the other experiments I setup & apply myself to , I have found that
not too many people walk the experimental trails I have since 1995/6.
I doubt that this particular project would have worked in the same manner
during Tesla's active experimental time , but am sure he brushed upon
something
similar as it is directly linked to naturally occuring phenomena.......

>
> JPM
>
> At 12:17 PM 12/3/03 +1100, you wrote:
>>
>> At 11:37 AM 12/2/03 -0800, you wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm working on an alternative power machine that will pulse flyback
>> > transformer as fast as I can get them to fire, If you would please look
>> over
>> > my circuit and point out areas that need improvements or if you could
>> come up
>> > with a better way. It has to sequencially fire 10 coils  as fast as
>> > electrically possible. I have a group site :
>> >
>> >
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GeeksWanted>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/G
>> > eeksWanted
>> >
>> > Others are working with me on this, hope to have a working model soon
>> >
>> >
>> > When The Power of Love Overcomes
>> > The Love of Power There Will Be Peace
>> >
>> >      <http://www.MindofYahweh.com>WWW.MindofYahweh.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Geeks have already inherited the world they just don't know it or more
>> likely
>> just can't agree on what to do with it  :)
>>
>> I looked at the "circut" on the link/s you provided & all I see is , with
>> all
>> respect , a heavily modified & re-engineered version of the simple battery
>> free
>> , waterproof handheld flashlight that I was toying with in an electronics
>> store
>> the other day , inside the flashlights tubular handle it had an air coil
& a
>> metal "slug" that passed thru the coil , when you shook it a bit magically
>> there was bright "white" light emitting from the diode at end of it , it
>> should
>> be somewhere on www.jaycar.com.au , it has (Faraday in  its name) a fairly
>> nifty
>> see thru device
>> made somewhere in China.......I was all cashed out so I couldn't buy one
>> :(
>> Part number ST-3340
>>
>> When you say you want to switch flyback tranny's as fast as possible , I'm
>> thinking of a solid state circut with ultra high speed diodes , transistors
>> ,
>> big heatsinks peltier coolers etc & possibly switching devices like the mil
>> spec helicopter strobe light switch with a 0.5 microfarad 1500VDC capacitor
>> connected to it  (I have one here in front of me , no part numbers on the 4
>> wire strobe switch unfortunately , am I totally off base in reading your
>> question  or is the picture I'm seeing incorrect ?
>>
>> Hmmmm....idea forming.....Fu**ing ABC & D , Revelation ,  Epifinay ,
Eureka
>> ,
>> WOW ! etc
>> I now have the answer to converting the dirty crossed phase ~50Htz power I
>> have
>> been drawing up from the ground for all these years with my White Earth
>> Project
>> , by either cutting the torch apart or making my own coil & slug tube setup
>> from scratch  (I prefer the former) I can get a nice clean regulated supply
>> of
>> useable power , way cool I can already see the initial setup in my head
, it
>> should be good for a few hundred  milliwatts straight up....... I always
>> knew
>> that a speaker with a 20watt , 20ft pound torque rating must be useful for
>> something other than making a 0 to 3000 Htz noise signal.I'll get 2 of
those
>> Faraday flashlights pronto.......excuse the rant & curses , this has been a
>> very long project & frustrating project , and will shut up the local
critics
>> for an awefully long time.I'll use the mechanical movement of the speakers
>> to
>> drive the slug thru the coil... Woo Hooooooo !
>>
>> When you say you want to switch flyback tranny's as fast as possible , I'm
>> thinking of a solid state circut with ultra high speed diodes , transistors
>> ,
>> big heatsinks peltier coolers etc & possibly switching devices like the mil
>> spec helicopter strobe light switch with a 0.5 microfarad 1500VDC capacitor
>> connected to it  (I have one here in front of me , no part numbers on the 4
>> wire strobe switch unfortunately , am I totally off base or incorrectly
>> reading
>> your question about a "circuit"  or is the picture I'm seeing incorrect ?
>>
>> BTW.
>> I like the idea of a global collective , working on a single open source
>> project , the technology would develop & come to a reality faster than they
>> did
>> during Ed's early radar days  & especially with  projects of this nature
>> combined with the global comms setup we now , just keep an eye out forthe
>> team
>> of  black Chevvy Suburbans that appear to be following you  ;>
>>
>> JB
>
> "The nations of the world will have to unite, for the  next war will be
>   an interplanetary war. The nations of the earth must someday
> make
>    a common front against attack by people from other planets."
>                -- General  Douglas MacArthur -1955
>
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On Zero Point energy:

Early on, quantum theory came up with the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.
This showed that one could not know *both* the exact position and velocity
of a particle.  The more precisely one knows one of them, the less certain
will be the other one.  This is not because of measurement error, or 'loading,'
like the loading a common voltmeter makes on the system being tested, and
therefore changing the voltage being measured.

There are many other pairs of uncertainties predicted by the uncertainty
principle.

One of the results of this principle is the "quantum vacuum virtual particle
flux."

If we take a cubic foot of vacuum, 'perfect vacuum,' we violate this principle.
One cannot have an entity in which there is precisely 0.0000000000000000000
velocity and absolutely precise position of a particle in the middle of this
space, and so on for all the other 'pairs' of values.

Therefore, in this one cubic foot of absolute vacuum, there must be a
*residual*, amount of energy.  Viola [sic], the zero point energy!

This idea led to the idea of positing the production, out of nothingness, of
every particle and its antiparticle.

I consider this the embodiment in reality of the Cheshire cat grin, remaining
long after the entire cat had disappeared.

If one is not utterly mystified by quantum theory, one doesn't understand it.
(Have always considered this, and the exclamation point as "Yelling like hell,
because the argument is very weak."

FREE ENERGY:

My best description of this term is an example.  Pons and Fleishman conducted a
very careful experiment of ripping water apart by application of an electric
current(electrolysis).  Their results showed that more energy in the form of
heat was released by this experiment, than the electrical energy that was put
in to the experiment.  This would be 'free energy.'  Also detected in this
experiment is the presence of tritium, where there was none to begin with.

One could counter that the energy of the sun is 'free' energy.  But that energy
is the result of the consumption of fuel into ash (hydrogen into helium), and
so is not at all 'free.'

If the electrolysis experiment were to be scaled up tremendously, much more
heat energy would be released than inputted by the electric current.  This
heat could be used to generate the electricity required for input, and with
some to spare to say, light up a city.

I consider the jury still out on this 'cold fusion,' (so named by the press).
Science plods slowly forward, funeral by funeral.


Jim Farrer


Riversong Education wrote:
> There was a dictionary put out by the Tesla Society in 1996 in which
> these terms were defined.  This was called the "Tesla Dictionary of
> Advanced Research Terminology".  I did most of the writing in it, which
> was based on numerous interviews with inventors and scientists.  It is
> available through www.onelook.com
>
> At this point, i'd have to go back to the text, which is not available
> on this computer.  But here is a synthesis of definitions which might
> help.
>
> Zero Point Energy:  A form of energy that is nonlocal in nature and thus
> does not reside at a specific point in space.  It may possibly be a pure
> form of resonance.  Best reference: Moray King
>
> Free energy:  Ability to create energy with no economic, matter, or
> other energy losses.  This should be regarded as strictly a theoretical
> ideal.
>
> On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, at 09:56 PM, herzog@... wrote:
>
>  > I am looking for a simple definition of the two terms.
>  > Obviously they mean something else than what I inferred that they mean
>  > to me.
>  > 1.  Zero Point Energy is ......?
>  > 2.  free energy is ....?
>  >
>  > I was challenging the list to come up with a definition of terms.
>  > It has to at least be enough of a definition to eliminate my answers,
>  > yet
>  > not a verbose snow job, which dodges the issue and clouds men's minds.
>  >       A definition of terms is needed to have any understanding, at any
>  > level.
>  > Will
>  >
>  > At 11:41 AM 11/25/03, you wrote:
>  >>            Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:45:51 -0600
>  >>    From: "David Thomson" <dave@...>
>  >> Subject: RE: Zero Point Energy now Quantified
>  >>
>  >> Hi Will,
>  >>
>  >> What specifically do you have difficulty understanding?  Saying
>  >> broadly that
>  >> you don't understand doesn't help.  I'd be glad to go into detail as
>  >> much as
>  >> I can.  I purposely kept my web page as close to the math and as free
>  >> of the
>  >> verbosity as possible.  But this discussion forum is a good place to
>  >> get
>  >> verbose.
>  >>
>  >> Dave
>  >>
>  >>> -----Original Message-----
>  >>> From: herzog@... [mailto:herzog@...]
>  >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:35 AM
>  >>> To: usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com
>  >>> Subject: [usa-tesla] Zero Point Energy now Quantified
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>          At 02:01 PM 11/24/03, you wrote:
>  >>>> Zero Point Energy now Quantified
>  >>>
>  >>> Ok, now can it be defined, in a sentence; or does it still need a
>  >>> snowstorm?
>  >>>    To me it still means anything at absolute zero.
>  >>>
>  >>> Also, the term:   "quantify free energy".
>  >>> All energy came free, from the sun; the trick is to getting it to do
>  >>> something for me for free.
>  >>>
>  >>>      These two terms have generated many words, without having
>  >>> any defined
>  >>> meaning to help understanding.  I still need a shovel.
>  >>>
>  >>> Will
>  >>>
>  >
>  >
>  >
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At 09:08 PM 12/2/03 -0600, you wrote:
>
> Hey Jet... calm down guy


I'm calm , no need to panic.I figure half a dozen planets in the cosmos must
have been aligned my way as a person in Finland caught a snowflake on their
tongue , resulting in a moment of sheer clarity & realization ,  when replying
to the first email , unfortunately I wasn't reading Faust (sp) poetry at the
time.No matter these moments turn up with surprising regularity. 

>
> ... you'll blow a fuse!


 All 3 of my 500 amp motor start HRC fuse's are still unruptured  :)

>
> Good to hear from you but WoW did you lose me somewhere in the description.


Possibly because you have not seen the unconventional design of this
particular
ELF speaker , as I mentioned these "speakers" have a frequency response of DC
to 3000Htz & the ability to produce up to 20 foot pounds of torque , they are
not like "normal" speakers.I'll attach a .jpg of one & if I can find it I'll
snap up a picture of the one that I have taken apart.

>
> Those little permanent flashlights you were talking about.... I ordered two
> for Christmas
> presents, but they haven't arrived yet.


Give them an email asap asking what the holdup is  out of all the orders I
have
placed via the internet shopping mall section , only 1 has done a complete no
show & the other one order got lost by a small 2nd hand book seller who
immediately sent me the .mil pocket black book to add to my collection of
"little" field/desktop tech reference books.  

>
>  So you are driving subwoofers with current that you are drawing from the
> ground some how, and then you will
> hook them up to a similar setup as the little flashlights use, to generate
> current? Or something like this... as I said... you lost me... but sounds
> interesting enough.


I am driving these ELF speakers from the 3 phase "dirty" mixture of all the
earth leakage currents that leave the local houses & factories via their earth
stakes. I have been trying to clean up this continual "free" power that
flows ~
4ft beneath the ground I walk on for years with _many_ interesting results
from
hearing 3D noise out of a single conventional X Ohm speaker , seeing a column
of local air distortion that looks very similar to the "clear light" heat haze
that rises from a fire & having the unsecured 1.5Kg ELF speaker bounce around
violently on my work bench as the edge of a thunderstorm passes overhead.All
very interesting stuff but it is of no real commercial value to the general
public.
Being electrically inclined I neglected the mechanical side of my
investigations of these speakers.I have now (finally) realized that by
attaching a simple lever system between the top of the ELF speaker & a
slightly
modified "faraday torch" from jaycar electronics one of those I can use the
ELF
speakers mechanical up & down movement to make the iron slug pass thru the
coil
to make this diode powered light run perpetually at no cost to myself. In time
I can develop this tangential idea I had & use my own coils & iron slugs to
make a much cleaner & more importantly _usable_ "free" power source.
This method will be considerably easier than trying to untangle the dirty
multi
cross-phased power that the ELF speaker/s can draw up from the ground via the
array of earth stakes/plates & underground pipes I have setup on my
property ,
Although they are all _supposed_ to be at the same "earth" potential , all of
them have a usable potential difference between them.

As you should be able to see on the attached .jpg this is not a "normal"
speaker.
A strong magnet with metal plates top & bottom is bolted between 2 fiberglass
flex plates , the fiberglass plates are the only flexible parts , everything
else is _very_ solid. The more input power I can draw = more up & down
movement
I can get. The internal coil winding inside the outer body is a curiosity by
itself  ~15 turns for the top plate & ~15 for the bottom plate on each side of
the magnet.The fiberglass plates have been seen to flex ~5mm each way during a
good storm , giving a total of ~10mm movement , without the assistance of
mother nature  I get a continual 4 to 5 mm total vertical movement , pending
which earth potential I hook the ELF speaker up to.

I hope you can now get a better understanding of why I was so stoked about the
new possibilities that have opened up to me for to get clean "free" or
"recycled" power ,  when the penny dropped , so to speak  :)

JB

In hindsight I feel like an idjut for overlooking such an obvious way to
convert one form of energy into another........, then again despite many
searches via the  www for information or data on projects like the White Earth
Project & the other experiments I setup & apply myself to , I have found that
not too many people walk the experimental trails I have since 1995/6.
I doubt that this particular project would have worked in the same manner
during Tesla's active experimental time , but am sure he brushed upon
something
similar as it is directly linked to naturally occuring phenomena.......

 
>> I looked at the "circut" on the link/s you provided & all I see is , with
>> all respect , a heavily modified & re-engineered version of the simple
>> battery free, waterproof handheld flashlight that I was toying with in an
>> electronics storethe other day , inside the flashlights tubular handle it
>> had an air coil & a metal "slug" that passed thru the coil , when you
>> shook it a bit magically there was bright "white" light emitting from the
>> diode at end of it , it should be somewhere on www.jaycar.com.au , it
>> has (Faraday in  its name) a fairly nifty see thru device made somewhere
>> in China.......I was all cashed out so I couldn't buy one
>> :(  
>> Part number ST-3340
>>
>> When you say you want to switch flyback tranny's as fast as possible , I'm
>> thinking of a solid state circut with ultra high speed diodes , transistors
>> ,
>> big heatsinks peltier coolers etc & possibly switching devices like the mil
>> spec helicopter strobe light switch with a 0.5 microfarad 1500VDC capacitor
>> connected to it  (I have one here in front of me , no part numbers on the 4
>> wire strobe switch unfortunately , am I totally off base in reading your
>> question  or is the picture I'm seeing incorrect ?
>>
>> Hmmmm....idea forming.....Fu**ing ABC & D , Revelation ,  Epifinay ,
>> Eureka WOW ! etc  I now have the answer to converting the dirty
>> crossed phase ~50Htz power I have been drawing up from the ground
>> for all these years with my White Earth Project, by either cutting the
>> torch apart or making my own coil & slug tube setup from scratch 
>> (I prefer the former) I can get a nice clean regulated supply of
>> useable power , way cool I can already see the initial setup in my
>> head, it should be good for a few hundred  milliwatts straight up.......
>> I always knew that a speaker with a 20watt , 20ft pound torque rating
>> must be useful for something other than making a 0 to 3000 Htz noise
>> signal.I'll get 2 of those Faraday flashlights pronto.......excuse the rant
>> & curses , this has been a very long project & frustrating project , and
>> will shut up the local critics for an awefully long time.I'll use the mechanical
>> movement of the speakers to drive the slug thru the coil... Woo Hooooooo !
>>
>> When you say you want to switch flyback tranny's as fast as possible , I'm
>> thinking of a solid state circut with ultra high speed diodes , transistors
>> ,
>> big heatsinks peltier coolers etc & possibly switching devices like the mil
>> spec helicopter strobe light switch with a 0.5 microfarad 1500VDC capacitor
>> connected to it  (I have one here in front of me , no part numbers on the 4
>> wire strobe switch unfortunately , am I totally off base or incorrectly reading
>> your question about a "circuit"  or is the picture I'm seeing incorrect ?
>>
>> BTW.
>> I like the idea of a global collective , working on a single open source
>> project , the technology would develop & come to a reality faster than they
>> did during Ed's early radar days  & especially with  projects of this nature
>> combined with the global comms setup we now , just keep an eye out forthe
>> team of  black Chevvy Suburbans that appear to be following you  ;>
>>
>> JB

"Early on, quantum theory came up with the Heisenberg uncertainty
principle.
This showed that one could not know *both* the exact position and
velocity
of a particle.  The more precisely one knows one of them, the less
certain
will be the other one.  This is not because of measurement error, or
'loading,'
like the loading a common voltmeter makes on the system being tested,
and
therefore changing the voltage being measured."

	 For those who like to read I suggest the book "Twenty Years that Shook
Physics" by George Gamov.  Covers the development of quantum mechanics
theory at the Carlsberg (..urg?) Institute in Copenhagen.  Should be
available still and gives both a nice introduction and also a
perspective on both the history and the individuals who contributed to
it.

Ed

http://www.crystalinks.com/levitationtibet.html
Hammocks and swings utilize a small right angle impulse in the
opposite direction at the point of return to manipulate momentum to
the best advantage.ie do a lot of work moving heavy objects for not
much. If  a propogating wave (momentum) is treated the same way you
may get similar results.ie.If you put it into a narrowing situation
so that it is at the point of stopping ( as the crest of the swing).
You could do this by using corrugations of  narrowing concentric
rings to utilize the underlying circular motion of a wave and get it
to vibrate  and so trap it in your structure. At the point where the
wave is going to extinquish in momentum you put a small pulsing
signal of higher frequency in  a different octave range and send it
back into the dying wave from the apex of the cone of rings, to
reverse it and expand it again. This way you could utilize and
localize the power of waves coming in from the cosmos.The Tibetans
lifting stones in the link may have been doing just that. The cup
shape focused and returned the wave until they had pumped it up to
maximum momentum to do maximum work by utilizing sound waves.Think
of the motion of a slinky or snake.Leedskalinin was singing to his
stones and using cosmic energies to lift them.Tesla was rather
partial to returning motion in his inventions. By putting things in
series also you get more than the there and back you get it over and
over again.He started and ran a car on tubes in series.The returning
motion and the right angle impulse seem to me to be continuing
themes in nature. Regards Roz.

Hi Roz,

I recently showed how electrons can be magnetically aligned with each other
and held a certain distance apart, such that photons are generated from the
magnetic moments (Casimir effect).  By engineering a capacitor such that all
the electrons are magnetically aligned on the plates, a load can be tapped
from the capacitor to power lights and motors.

According to the Casimir equation, and my equivalent strong charge equation,
the "free energy" or ZPE comes from the same force (or energy) that keeps
electrons perpetually spinning.
http://www.tshankha.com/energy_from_aether.htm

Since particles continue to spin, and because particles have precession that
shows up in the magnetic moment and gyromagnetic ratio, an alignment can be
made between similar sized particles (electrons) and use their wobble as a
kind of ping pong game.

The electrons act like ping pong paddles, and the Aether is a medium that
carries a "wave" back and forth (photon) that acts like a ping pong ball.
When the plates of two magnetically aligned materials are exactly the right
distance apart, a resonance in the Aether is established and the result are
photons bouncing back and forth between the materials.

Not only are the two plates of the material acting like a resonator, but
they are also acting as an AC capacitor. The photons build up electric
charge through resonance. By tapping the two plates with a load into a
circuit, some photons can be drawn off the capacitor plates as electrons and
thus provide electromagnetic power. If the load is as simple as a light bulb
filament, drawing power will be easy and direct. But if the load is an
alternating current device such as a motor, then another circuit may be
needed to maintain the correct operating frequency.

As electrons are drawn off the capacitor plates, more photons are generated
from the wobbling action of the electrons in the plate material.

There is no violation of conservation of energy here. But we do have to
identify the source of energy that is maintaining the spin of the electrons.

Dave

Why didn't anyone at Almagordo spill the beans during WW II?  THEY DID!
I believe this was why Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were fried.

Jim
I've always believed that the reason for all this sacred and top sacred stuff
is to keep it from the American public.


haltreacy@... wrote:
>
> Dear Ed:  Henry Pujarich, M.D., told me how he "discovered"
> the papers of Nikola Tesla hidden away in a warehouse in
> New York City. His story is that he obtained their release and
> (as a person of Yugoslav ancestry) made arrangements
> for them to be turned over to the Yugoslav government.
> This could be an exciting aspect of Tesla history were
> any further documentation to come forth.
>      With respect to keeping secrets, as far as engineers
> are concerned then why didn't anyone spill the beans
> over at Alamogordo as the first atomic bomb was being
> prepared for detonation (from the top of a steel tower
> if I remember history correctly)? Especially the ones with
> wives and children.  Why didn't ANYONE let the cat out
> of the bag?  Because security personnel threatened to
> take them out if they talked! I have that first-hand from
> one of them during his retirement years in Palos Verdes.
>                                                                HAL.
> > "True... but the government did so illegally, because Tesla was a
> > citizen, not an alien, so the alien property act
> > should not have applied to his property. Various branches of the US
> > military examined all of his notes in detail
> > while the property was impounded, and there is not verified evidence
> > that all of it was ever turned over to his
> > nephew, IMO. The only reason that Sava Kosanovich even obtained Tesla's
> > stuff was that the Yugoslavian
> > government aided him in filing suit against the US Federal government to
> > obtain these possession. I don't think
> > that they obtained what was left of Tesla's belongings until 1956 or so.
> > If this was the case, then there was 12-13
> > years for things to disappear, if anything did, and I suspect that there
> > was not a full accounting of everything to
> > start with. However, I could be wrong... but you can bet if the Army or
> > Navy found anything in Tesla's notes of
> > possible military significance or potential, it would have been withheld
> > as a matter of national security.
> >
> > JPM"
> >
> >       I agree on that last point.  However, if anything was found it's been
> > kept under wraps for all these years and hasn't appeared in any
> > operating systems. Having been involved in the classified systems
> > business since 1945 I find it impossible to believe that anything "good"
> > could have escaped public notice or, at least, notice within "the
> > community".  People like to talk too much and engineers are the worst of
> > the lot.  Still a subject for intriguing speculation.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> >
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"Hi Roz,

I recently showed how electrons can be magnetically aligned with each
other
and held a certain distance apart, such that photons are generated from
the
magnetic moments (Casimir effect).  By engineering a capacitor such that
all
the electrons are magnetically aligned on the plates, a load can be
tapped
from the capacitor to power lights and motors."

	 How much power can you get?  Say from a machine the size of a trash
can.

Ed

"Why didn't anyone at Almagordo spill the beans during WW II?  THEY DID!
I believe this was why Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were fried.

Jim
I've always believed that the reason for all this sacred and top sacred
stuff
is to keep it from the American public."

	 Don't forget David Greenglass and Klaus Fuchs!

Ed

Hi Ed,

>  How much power can you get?  Say from a machine the size of a trash
> can.

I haven't seen anything that big, yet.  But from two rods about 1/2" in
diameter and about 3" long you can get about 18 watts from one device.  If
you would like to see a video of the device being demonstrated, send me a
100mb zip disk and a couple bucks postage and I'll send you the files.

David Thomson
518 Illinois St.
Alma, IL  62807

My guess is that Tesla's rumored vacuum tube driven power supply would have
used the same technology.  He may have found a way to magnetically align the
electrons in the plates of the vacuum tube in order to tap the Zero Point
Energy.

Because of the precise alignment of the electrons needed in the plates of
the device, and because of the precise distance needed between the plates,
it is easy to see why some researchers were able to build ZPE devices but
the results could not be duplicated.  Either through luck, or intuitive
engineering, the original inventors were able to produce the exact material
specifications for obtaining free energy.  But those who attempted to
rebuild these devices from plans did not have that luck or intuitive
engineering skill.

Dave

We seem to have taken over Rob's request for help with his flyback transformer
switching problems & this mystery "circuit" he mentioned ,  I  would _really_
like to thank Rob for his timely posting of this extremely helpful question
(to
me) & possibly repay the favour with my experiences with solid state HV HC
rapid switching devices , if thats what he was after........Rob ?

A further off topic rant follows.....read at your own peril  :)

JPM scribed into the aether.

>
> Like your description of  the half dozen planets, and related comic events!


I couldn't remember the original story about the effect of a butterfly's wings
beating on another part of the world being somehow related to me , so I
improvised.I believe everything is connected in some way shape or form , this
planet is a very small place. I'd almost bet that the active medium to long
term members of this list are connected to a common 3rd party by much less
than
the "6 degree's of separation" that is often mentioned , infact the separation
would be more in the order of minutes or seconds in some cases. Think about it
, if you feel there are way too many coincidences or other oddities in your
life.........

<alternate explanation>

I always have ideas theories abstract scalar thoughts etc running in a
continual "loop programme" in the back of my mind (somewhere in the non
cognitive area of the brain , I believe) ,This loop programme will spill into
the cognitive area  when triggered by the right combination of stimuli , I am
now able to "feel" when the "loop" is starting to open up & feed the
appropriate data into the cognitive area of my brain , I grab my digital voice
recorder , clear my mind & continue looking at the cognitive "trigger" item or
data , I can then record a coherent voice memo ,  to capture whatever answer
(or question) that has turned up right there  on the spot , instead of it
letting it flow in one ear & out the other (sound familiar ?) ,it is possible
that another person (technical minded or not) to catch these lost thoughts &
catch a heavy dose of "de ja vu" or scramble their thoughts to the point that
they can't operate their cash register or other daily routine/reflex tasks
they
normally do with ease.I have been severely undercharged by cashiers in shops
many times when my brain has been "triggered" , they keep up the smile but
can't process me fast enough to get me away from them , my brain an
interesting
piece of grey matter imho.
No need to panic , transferring my thoughts via emails shouldn't happen , then
again neither James or I should have been able to control the way a line moved
to the left or right on a <lost the damm URL> web page.

JB

"My minds a planet for you to roam"

You are right in your understanding of what I am doing now James.
As far as getting the ELF speakers , I was fortunate enough to purchase a
dozen
or so "Aura Interactor" vests & cushions over the last couple of years for $10
& $15 each respectively then asset strip them for their speakers , amps ,
leadsets & comfy cushions (which I usually sew on top of milk crates for comfy
workshop seats)
I plan on solidly mounting a half dozen of these "shaker" speakers & their
amps  to my car's chassis (using all 6 slots in the speaker with some high
grade bolts , washers & nylock nuts to give them 20mm+ clearance from the
body)
to make the cars cabin into a bass box & the use the cars tyres as the
flexable
part of a normal speaker , 120watts of sub aural bass along with the cars
normal rumble should be able to knock people over using the rights sounds
/frequencies , I probably should avoid Schumans (?) 7.8Htz (?) frequency
(there's something dangerous around that area I believe)
As far as getting them  try http://www1.jaycar.com.au/ and enter part
numbers xc
1000 & xc 1005 into their search engine , they seem to have gone up in price a
bit since I bought them  ;>
Aura now appear to have some new bigger badder & disgustingly expensive shaker
speakers for theatres etc , Google should pick them up easily using "Aura  ELF
shaker " or similar.

Thats exactly what I'm looking for, did you look at the circuit
email me and I'll send it and if you know of a better way to fire 10
coils sequencelly and as fast as possible. continuiosly 24/7





--- In usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com, Jet Black <tesla@o...> wrote:
> We seem to have taken over Rob's request for help with his flyback
transformer
> switching problems & this mystery "circuit" he mentioned ,  I
would _really_
> like to thank Rob for his timely posting of this extremely helpful
question
> (to
> me) & possibly repay the favour with my experiences with solid
state HV HC
> rapid switching devices , if thats what he was after........Rob ?
>
> A further off topic rant follows.....read at your own peril  :)
>
> JPM scribed into the aether.
>
> >
> > Like your description of  the half dozen planets, and related
comic events!
>
>
> I couldn't remember the original story about the effect of a
butterfly's wings
> beating on another part of the world being somehow related to me ,
so I
> improvised.I believe everything is connected in some way shape or
form , this
> planet is a very small place. I'd almost bet that the active
medium to long
> term members of this list are connected to a common 3rd party by
much less
> than
> the "6 degree's of separation" that is often mentioned , infact
the separation
> would be more in the order of minutes or seconds in some cases.
Think about it
> , if you feel there are way too many coincidences or other
oddities in your
> life.........
>
> <alternate explanation>
>
> I always have ideas theories abstract scalar thoughts etc running
in a
> continual "loop programme" in the back of my mind (somewhere in
the non
> cognitive area of the brain , I believe) ,This loop programme will
spill into
> the cognitive area  when triggered by the right combination of
stimuli , I am
> now able to "feel" when the "loop" is starting to open up & feed
the
> appropriate data into the cognitive area of my brain , I grab my
digital voice
> recorder , clear my mind & continue looking at the
cognitive "trigger" item or
> data , I can then record a coherent voice memo ,  to capture
whatever answer
> (or question) that has turned up right there  on the spot ,
instead of it
> letting it flow in one ear & out the other (sound familiar ?) ,it
is possible
> that another person (technical minded or not) to catch these lost
thoughts &
> catch a heavy dose of "de ja vu" or scramble their thoughts to the
point that
> they can't operate their cash register or other daily
routine/reflex tasks
> they
> normally do with ease.I have been severely undercharged by
cashiers in shops
> many times when my brain has been "triggered" , they keep up the
smile but
> can't process me fast enough to get me away from them , my brain an
> interesting
> piece of grey matter imho.
> No need to panic , transferring my thoughts via emails shouldn't
happen , then
> again neither James or I should have been able to control the way
a line moved
> to the left or right on a <lost the damm URL> web page.
>
> JB
>
> "My minds a planet for you to roam"
>
> You are right in your understanding of what I am doing now James.
> As far as getting the ELF speakers , I was fortunate enough to
purchase a
> dozen
> or so "Aura Interactor" vests & cushions over the last couple of
years for $10
> & $15 each respectively then asset strip them for their speakers ,
amps ,
> leadsets & comfy cushions (which I usually sew on top of milk
crates for comfy
> workshop seats)
> I plan on solidly mounting a half dozen of these "shaker" speakers
& their
> amps  to my car's chassis (using all 6 slots in the speaker with
some high
> grade bolts , washers & nylock nuts to give them 20mm+ clearance
from the
> body)
> to make the cars cabin into a bass box & the use the cars tyres as
the
> flexable
> part of a normal speaker , 120watts of sub aural bass along with
the cars
> normal rumble should be able to knock people over using the rights
sounds
> /frequencies , I probably should avoid Schumans (?) 7.8Htz (?)
frequency
> (there's something dangerous around that area I believe)
> As far as getting them  try http://www1.jaycar.com.au/ and enter
part
> numbers xc
> 1000 & xc 1005 into their search engine , they seem to have gone
up in price a
> bit since I bought them  ;>
> Aura now appear to have some new bigger badder & disgustingly
expensive shaker
> speakers for theatres etc , Google should pick them up easily
using "Aura  ELF
> shaker " or similar.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jet Black [mailto:tesla@...]
...
> I couldn't remember the original story about the effect of a
> butterfly's wings beating on another part of the world being somehow related
to
> me , so I improvised.

Isn't this the mixture of determinism, the assumption that if we just knew
enough about the original state we could predict exactly what would happen next,
and chaos theory, where we can't know enough to predict the results? The feeling
one gets is that the exceedingly small effects, like the butterfly, even
absurdly far away, must somehow mix up with all the other effects to cause this
massive storm we can't predict.

Brooklyn Eagle July 10, 1932
Nikola Tesla

"I will tell you in the most general way,
the cosmic ray ionizes the air, setting
free many charges ions and electrons."

Now, if a cosmic ray can set free ions
and electrons in the air, think about
how many can be set free in an unstable
element like U235.

My discovery is not new. In fact, Tesla
theorized that the cosmic rays were the
cause of radioactivity. Tesla's idea was
that radiant matter (radioactive element)
is simply a re-transmitter of energy of
the cosmic ray.


In the above referenced article
Tesla further states:

"I have hopes of building my motor on a
large scale, but circumstances have not
been favorable to carrying out my plan."

He indicates here that he has not been
able to build a large motor that is
powered by the cosmic rays. In Tesla's
own words here he tells us indirectly
that his electric car was not powdered by
radiant energy, at least not when this
article was written. This could have changed
during the remaining ten years of Tesla's
life. What we do know for sure is that the
radiant energy from air alone was not enough
to provide power for his electric car. The
only obvious solution is to use a chunk of
radiant matter that will sufficiently amplify
the incoming cosmic rays to generate enough
power for an electrical car motor.

         -Bruce A. Perreault

Carol,

This sounds correct. This is exactly my point.
However, these rays can trigger nuclear events
in radioisotopic materials into releasing their
stored energy.

                    -Bruce


----- Original Message -----
From: "carolmarie crotchfelt" <carolmarie_crotchfelt@...>
To: "Nu Energy Research Laboratories" <bap@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Harnessing Cosmic Rays


> The total cosmic ray flux at high altitudes averages out to less
> than one MICROWATT PER SQUARE METER.
>
> Try powering a car with this!
>
> Carol

Hi Ed: Gamow's writings were very influential on my own
view about physics, as well as that of my highschool
classmates. Thanks for providing  the reference.
      World thirst relieved by Danish beer (Carlsberg) brings
money into the Carlsberg Institute which in turn supports
original research - this seems to me to be a pretty good
arrangement!  HAL.
> "Early on, quantum theory came up with the Heisenberg uncertainty
> principle.
> This showed that one could not know *both* the exact position and
> velocity
> of a particle.  The more precisely one knows one of them, the less
> certain
> will be the other one.  This is not because of measurement error, or
> 'loading,'
> like the loading a common voltmeter makes on the system being tested,
> and
> therefore changing the voltage being measured."
>
>  For those who like to read I suggest the book "Twenty Years that Shook
> Physics" by George Gamov.  Covers the development of quantum mechanics
> theory at the Carlsberg (..urg?) Institute in Copenhagen.  Should be
> available still and gives both a nice introduction and also a
> perspective on both the history and the individuals who contributed to
> it.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

"Hi Ed: Gamow's writings were very influential on my own
view about physics, as well as that of my highschool
classmates. Thanks for providing  the reference.
      World thirst relieved by Danish beer (Carlsberg) brings
money into the Carlsberg Institute which in turn supports
original research - this seems to me to be a pretty good
arrangement!  HAL."

	 From an internet search I gather they're still going strong.  Another
book I'd recommend is "Great Experiments in Physics" which is available
pretty cheaply from Amazon.  From Galileo to Einstein and lots of
interesting stops between, including Faraday and Henry (but not Tesla,
unfortunately).

Ed

Cronicles of the past says that Tesla,eccentric genius, love to
appear in public surronded by a bluish halo generated by a little
oscillator that he made.Also he launch sparks from his fingers!
Possible?Someone knows something else on these episodes?

Anyone has infos on bifilar coils,the one of the two wires smaller
than one?Thanks!Cyrano.

http://www.epiic-2007.com/paranormale/generato.htm

Look This link.Shows the John Hutchinson Devices to generate
artificial Poltergeist.Someone Knows how to make these experiments?

If an object is teleported from one side of a room to the other, I expect
its gravitational field will go with it and the teleported gravitational
force will start from the surface of the object the moment it arrives at
the new destination. Will it exert a "pull" on a photon heading toward the
object? If so, what will it do to the speed at which the photon is
travelling?

ZG

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Party of Citizens [mailto:citizens@...]
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:12 PM
> To: usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: life-gazette@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [usa-tesla] Teleportation and Gravity
>
>
> If an object is teleported from one side of a room to the
> other,

Photons traveling toward an object are subject to a "gravitational force". They
experience an increase in momentum, in mass, but their velocity remains fixed.
Their increase in mass is just what you would expect of any object traversing a
gravitational field where the velocity is near light speed, so the velocity
cannot change significantly. The conversion of gravitational potential energy
into kinetic energy is just exactly as you would expect, except V remains fixed
and M increases. Cute, eh?