Not saturable inductors I believe it's the use of magnets and/or dc generators
providing path for direct current.  Tesla had several patents issued marked no
model but with detailed drawings of models.  By saturable reactors do you mean
ferroresonant transformers?

Andy

--- In usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com, EVP <evp@...> wrote:
>
>     If that's the patent using saturable inductors the reason no one has
> built a model is because the idea is defective - no way it could work.
>
> Ed
>
> Tesla did have a method of obtaining direct from alternating current
> without the use of diodes. Patent 413,353 issued Oct. 22, 1889. No model
> so whether it works is questionable.
>
> Andy
>

If that's the patent using saturable inductors the reason no one has
built a model is because the idea is defective - no way it could work.

Ed

Tesla did have a method of obtaining direct from alternating current
without the use of diodes. Patent 413,353 issued Oct. 22, 1889. No model
so whether it works is questionable.

Andy

It would seem that William Lyne must have escaped from a funny farm!!!!!

Ed

has anyone read books by william lyne? he writes books on ufos and says
tesla invented to tesla coil for the electropulsive ship(ufo).he says
the if a telsa coil is tunned to 1/4 wave and is ungrounded it will emit
negative discharges at the top (peak negative) and the bottom of the
coil being peak positive.is this correct?

Tesla did have a method of obtaining direct from alternating current without the
use of diodes.  Patent 413,353 issued Oct. 22, 1889.  No model so whether it
works is questionable.

Andy

--- In usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com, "bobdee18" <clark.r.daniel@...> wrote:
>
>
> You may be aware of William Lyne and his two books:
> "Space Aliens from the Pentagon" and "Occult Aether Physics"
>
> I have for a while now been sick of William Lyne promoting his theory of
gravity as Nikola Tesla's theory.
>
> Here is a link to a pdf in which I debunk this claim.
>
> http://sickofmisinformation.mysite.com
>
> BD
>

Dear Friends,

   I am glad that we have moderators to remove those unslightly blemishes to
true science and forwarding to the cause of free power on a worldwide
basis; Tesla's dream. The internet is an extremely powerful instrument when used
correctly; I feel this group is a part of it's theme in proper use, as over the
years since I joined this group, many a good idea come across by
the notifications of our members. 

   It is always a joy when serious science can bring helpful advances to the
world at large.

   I believe the collective knowledge of this group will see a time that
reproduction of Tesla's greatest experiments will greatly advance mankind as a
whole - pushing past the impedments of the money hoarders seeking only to
control power, in their vie of elimination to options in generating additional
resources of power, by their quest of greed; may they all fall from the heights
of our society by the strength and true purity of inventions to help mankind.

   It is a welcome color this group shines by it's brightness guiding the
search for benefit to earth's inhabitants; selfless in pursuit to create free
power in our group's highest ideal. Thank you to all our members for
participation in furthering this worthy cause!

   A well-deserved, supremely, special thanks to all moderators for their
sorting of the many postings of our group; it is a tedious and thankless job,
for when justly and properly applied, never do our members see their behind the
scenes work!

   Best wishes to all in our success to the very basics of ideals founding our
group!

   Hopefully soon, a time shall come, where, through the efforts of this
collective, a fruitation is presented to it's ideals; and royal resoundment will
come through all media sources, of a successful triumph to acquisition of a
previously unseen, alternative power, handing advancement to the whole of
mankind.

   I truly believe the powerful minds of members in this group can become the
successes we seek in a new tomorrow...

         Mike Cavette : {D

"Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and
accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really
worked, is mine."  ~ Nikola Tesla

I logged in for the first time in a while, after having been too
busy with other things for too long.

13 messages were held for approval and 17 new member requests were
also being held:

  - Some messages were approved, some were not
  - Some membership requests were approved, some were not

FYI for anyone who doesn't know: usa-tesla has had an ongoing issue
with nuts who post off-topic materials on Zen, spirituality, and a
slew of other unrelated topics. Not to mention true SPAM - bulk
unsolicited email that advertises medicines and other offerings.

This is why usa-tesla now screens membership requests and moderates
new members for the first several posts. I apologize if the delay
in processing legitimate requests has caused discontent, I'm one of
several moderators and I guess we've all been busy lately.

Scorpio

--- Herzog wrote:

> A friend said to me:  Hi there
> – apparently there are ‘loonies’ who use
> LARGE arcs as speakers – in the music videos the
> arcs ‘sing’ the songs, no conventional speakers...

I was present when several of these videos were recorded at Penguicon 2008 (a
combined science fiction and open-source software convention) and I witnessed
the "Zeusaphone" in person (I was probably the first person to suggest bringing
them to the con).  Due to audio compression, virtually nothing in the video
clips can give you an idea of how LOUD this setup is from ~30 feet away.  The
coils were controlled by means of a MIDI link over a fiber optic cable.

I was just given the raw footage of the best videos from this event to edit. 
Once finished, I will help the videographer post the best clips to YouTube--and
post links here.

Good current example:
"Tesla Coils Play Popcorn at Penguicon 2008"
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOZEpP_zzaw>

~~ Michael Rudas

Hi, I'm Jeff from Utah.  I recently built a coil which is about 36 inches high
with a stepped secondary wound with litz wire.  It is quite satisfactory.  It is
a classic design with fixed spark gap.  I recently obtained a synchronous 1800
RPM motor and am installing a rotary gap.  I'll keep you posted as to the
results.  I have some photos of my coil under "Utah Jeff."

has anyone read books by william lyne? he writes books on ufos and says tesla
invented to tesla coil for the electropulsive ship(ufo).he says the if a telsa
coil is tunned to 1/4 wave and is ungrounded it will emit negative discharges at
the top (peak negative) and the bottom of the coil being peak positive.is this
correct?

Mr. Riversong, i will stay in touch with this group, as long as i am able, and
promise to keep it tesla related (lol) also i either have seen your site or
heard of it and will look into it further.. my hat off to you ,sir

Oneminde, thanks for the tip. i "know" you are right. to answer your question
(altho i suspect it rhetorical (big grin)): the stuff tesla found, is what i
believe is holding the molecules together in the first place.

peace, love, live and let live, and out,
joe





(oath keepers, it is about the Constitution of the great country, USA.
http://oathkeepers.org )


--- In usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com, "ReCrea" <re_crea_06@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> You should look into pulsed DC instead of straight DC, but it depends on what
type of system you are building. Personaly I am building a capacitor where the
dielectric is water. Charge the capacitor untill voltage breakdown whitin the
capacitor and this will release hydrogen and oxygen, that is pure voltage
potential or electrostatic. You can splitt the molecule whit pure voltage as we
are looking at attraction and repulsive forces.. and what is holding the
molecule together in the first place???
>
> Just a tip for ya!! Take care
>
>
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Joe mijdtr
>   Sent: Nov 22, 2009 12:55 AM
>   To: usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [usa-tesla] sayin hello
>
>
>   hi to all. i am a newbie in electronics and this group, and especially the
tesla findings. looking forward to building a system. i will be looking into how
exactly to make the tesla coils and the system.
>   was trying to learn more about electronics (mainly coils and how to build
em) at a educational site. altho the forum there did not bash tesla, it did
fopah over-unity and hydrogen fuel cells. i expected as much from a teaching
site, however it did seem to have some valid points about the hho cell(as far as
my limited knowledge of the terminology). but anyway i did get fire from my cell
and 12 volts DC directly wired to battery, but came across the usual heating
problem.
>
>   until later, joe
>
>
>
>
> -- Michael Riversong
> Tesla Academy
> Cheyenne, Wyoming
> www.teslaacademy.info
> rivedu@...
>

You may be aware of William Lyne and his two books:
"Space Aliens from the Pentagon" and "Occult Aether Physics"

I have for a while now been sick of William Lyne promoting his theory of gravity
as Nikola Tesla's theory.

Here is a link to a pdf in which I debunk this claim.

http://sickofmisinformation.mysite.com

BD

I had a quantity of litz wire and wondered how well it would work for a TC
secondary.  My coil is a classic spark gap type with a large neon sign
transformer and a Maxwell 50 KV .025 MFD cap.  I am so far quite pleased, as it
makes nice streamers.  See my photos under "Utah Jeff."

I made the coil with reclaimed items as much as possible.  The capacitor was the
most expensive item, costing $80.00 and it's a fine one!  Compact and rated for
pulse service, it does a good job.

I'm now converting it to a rotary synchronous spark gap, since I have obtained a
nice reaction sync. motor that runs at exactly 1800 RPM on 60 HZ.  I will let
you all know how that works out.

I tried to put this in the files section but I couldn't find the add files.

Information sheet for the ERR Power Station Project

For many years I have been experimenting with new materials that support
electromagnetic wave propagation in ways that are not observed in nature. Other
research teams around the world are doing similar experiments that also backup
this theory. I have been able to create materials that support this type of
effect for light and other electromagnetic waves. Even some physicists are
starting to challenge what was thought to be the basic laws of nature. Many of
the hard-nosed skeptics are finding it increasingly more difficult to disprove
the left-hand rule.

In nature, all materials seem to obey the right-hand rule. The fingers of the
right hand represent the waves of the electric field, and when you curl the
fingers around to the base of the hand, this represents the magnetic field; the
outstretched thumb indicates the direction of the flow of power

Back in 1968 a Russian theorist; V.G. Veselago had predicted that new materials
could be engineered to interact with our environment, which is just the opposite
of how natural materials react. In 2000, researchers at the University of
California-San Diego (UCSD) confirmed this, creating what's known as the first
"left-handed" material. A special team at UCSD created material that caused
fields to move to the left even though the electromagnetic energy moved to the
right. The light waves produced in this material also produced an inverted
Doppler effect. Researchers at MIT and the University of Delaware, is also
exploring left-handed media.

We are now discovering that the things we held to be inviolable can in fact, be
violated under certain conditions. Many research teams are already able to build
structures that support this theory.

Much of my research over the past 17 years has proved that these new kinds of
materials can cause different affects when it comes to magnetic fields. I'm
already using left-handed material in my ERR (Electromagnetic Radiation
Receiver) experiments. I've proven this theory with my ERR prototype. Lawrence
Rayburn a researcher of electromagnetic fields has also proved this theory with
his left-hand wound coils. Even though some of us have proven the left-hand
theory, no one seems to want to admit that we have disproved one of the sacred
laws of nature.

You'll find the drawing of my special experimental Flux Power Station in the
Noah's Ark Research Foundation folder in photos.. A special frequency generator
is used to induce a series of alternating frequencies to create a flow of
electrons when activating the magnetic flux field. This theory is still in the
experimental stages so I still have a lot of research and testing for safety and
other factors.

The secret is in the material used, the size of the wire and the number of turns
plus the frequency and how you alternate that frequency. There are many
combinations that will allow you to get small amounts of electrons to flow.

I finished a simple set of drawings for my first 160,000 watt power station. I
don't want to release my blueprints because it might fall into the wrong hands.
These simple drawings and information is not enough for other research
organizations to copy our technology.

We still need to build the first prototype and test it over a period of time to
make sure it's safe and to fix any bugs that we might find. The smaller model
worked very well but we don't know how the bigger one will work until it's built
and tested.

This ERR Flux Power Station is designed to run a large house or you can add more
Flux Power Vaults which is 10,000 watts or more each if you need more power. It
can even be built big enough for a factory or a whole community of houses.

I've already started building the first prototype in the basement of our house
in the Philippines. My crew has already poured the cement for the chambers. The
copper and fiberglass tracks with all the electrical contacts where the Flux
Plates slide into place are being built in our machine shop. After the chambers
are finished and the cement is cured the tracks will be bolted into place. The
cement work will take about two weeks to finish the 16 chambers. By then the
first 10 tracks will be ready to install. Each Flux Power Plate as it's finished
will be slid into place and tested to make sure it's making proper contact.
After all 10 Flux Power Plates have been slid into place and tested we can bolt
the airtight chamber vault door into place. Then we will be ready to test the
o-rings with a vacuum pump. After the chamber has passed the vacuum test we can
pressure-rise the chamber to 1.5 psi with a special gas. Then the first chamber
will be ready to go on line producing 10 to 18,000 Watts DC power. The reason
we're not sure of the exact output is because we are developing new left-handed
materials that could possible increase the output by as much as eight times. As
each new chamber comes on line I can disassemble my older smaller ERR units. My
older ERR units have become more bothersome and costly to maintain over the
years.

The new Flux Power Plates should be maintenance free for many years (I hope). As
we develop newer and better Power Plates the older Plates can be easily replaced
by shutting down one chamber at a time.

After the frequency generator is shut down going to that chamber then the cover
can be removed exposing the plates. If the new Flux Power Plates are the same
thickness then the old plates are simply slid out and the new plates slid into
place. If the new plates are thicker or thinner then the tracks will need to be
replaced. After replacing the plates the o-rings on the vault door is replaced
and the cover is bolted back on. The chamber will be vacuum tested and if no
leaks are found then the chamber can be pressure-rised to 1.5 psi with a special
gas and the frequency generator can be turned on. After output is tested the
chamber is ready to be added to the power station.

Drawing # 1 shows the chambers without the airtight covers. The chamber holds
ten Flux Power Plates that are 48" X 48" X 4" which can produce 1,000 to as high
8,000 watts each depending on the Plates. As we design newer left-handed
materials that support electromagnetic wave propagation we will be able to
increase the power output. Each chamber is designed with special slots and
electrical connectors to connect to the Flux Power Plates when they are slid
into position in the chamber. The reason for individual chambers is so that the
whole system need not be shut down in case of a Flux Plate burn out. One chamber
can be shut down to replace one or more burnt Plates without shutting down the
whole Power Station. It also shows the frequency and power lines. The lines
coming from the frequency generator going into the chamber and the heavy DC
output lines use the same sealed system.

Drawing #2 is basically the same as #1except it shows the gas lines going to
each chamber and it has the covers bolted into place. Each vault has an airtight
cement cover to seal the chamber so that we can extract all the air and fill the
chamber with a special gas at a pressure of 1.5 psi. These covers with their
o-ring seals are very important so that no air can leak into the chamber. Any
oxygen in the chamber can cause flash burns between the plates. It also shows
the electrical lines going from each vault to the main power box.

Drawing #3 shows a front and side view of the Flux Power Plates.

Drawing #4 shows one of the inner aluminium plates which is different from the
two outer solid aluminum plates. Each of these inner plates has 144 slots that
are cut to 10 ½ X 2 ½ cm where 144 special coils are inserted.

DRAWING #5 is a close up of the ten Flux Power Plates and the tracks.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe mijdtr
Sent: Nov 22, 2009 12:55 AM
To: usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [usa-tesla] sayin hello

 

hi to all. i am a newbie in electronics and this group, and especially the tesla findings. looking forward to building a system. i will be looking into how exactly to make the tesla coils and the system.
was trying to learn more about electronics (mainly coils and how to build em) at a educational site. altho the forum there did not bash tesla, it did fopah over-unity and hydrogen fuel cells. i expected as much from a teaching site, however it did seem to have some valid points about the hho cell(as far as my limited knowledge of the terminology). but anyway i did get fire from my cell and 12 volts DC directly wired to battery, but came across the usual heating problem.

until later, joe

-- Michael Riversong
Tesla Academy
Cheyenne, Wyoming
www.teslaacademy.info
rivedu@...

hi to all.  i am a newbie in electronics and this group, and especially the
tesla findings.   looking forward to building a system. i will be looking into
how exactly to make the tesla coils and the system.
was trying to learn more about electronics (mainly coils and how to build em) at
a educational site. altho the forum there did not bash tesla, it did fopah
over-unity and hydrogen fuel cells. i expected as much from a teaching site,
however it did seem to have some valid points about the hho cell(as far as my
limited knowledge of the terminology).  but anyway i did get fire from my cell
and 12 volts DC directly wired to battery, but came across the usual heating
problem.

until later, joe

In case anyone here has any interest in the subject, some Preliminary
Observations regarding the current state of virus activity on this planet have
been recorded.  This can be found at the top of my blog:

http://mriversong.livejournal.com



-- Michael Riversong
Tesla Academy
Cheyenne, Wyoming
www.teslaacademy.info
rivedu@...

Yes it has been too long.  Have noticed a tendency for our list to have an emphasis on elderly members.  There's nothing wrong with that, but i would like to see more of a mix.  We should be known as the place where young researchers can go to benefit from wisdom of the greatest scientific elders on our planet.

Meanwhile, things are hopping here and there.  Main point of activity is Philadelphia.  A coherent community of Tesla researchers is emerging there.  Today they had an education interest meeting, and i was on the phone with them briefly during that time.

In fact, i am seriously considering driving out to Philadelphia in the coming month, and actively looking for work there.  It appears that my experience might be of some use to the younger researchers who are emerging there.

This is an odd time in my personal life, as it is for so many USA residents now.  I have a job, but it does not provide enough income to stay alive.  So going somewhere else and looking for work could make some sense, even though there are apparently no places where work is really available right now.  At the same time, it is obvious to many that Tesla research has been the center of my life for a long time, and that i now have virtually an obligation to continue if that's at all possible.

Some proposals have been written to operate Tesla Academy at various levels.  The ideal scene, of course, would be to have 3 locations, with the headquarters in Ft. Collins.  (Would love to have it in Colorado Springs but really the old Tesla Society community there is almost gone now.  In Ft. Collins there's a diverse community of science oriented people having regular events, and besides it's a very nice town.)  But there are many other possibilities, both with the Academy itself and in cooperation with other organizations.

-----Original Message-----
From: Reese
Sent: Nov 21, 2009 9:33 AM
To: usa-tesla
Subject: [usa-tesla] Where have all the posters gone?

 

Long time passing.

Reese

-- Michael Riversong
Tesla Academy
Cheyenne, Wyoming
www.teslaacademy.info
rivedu@...

Long time passing.

Reese

Today, 2 new podcasts were uploaded to the Tesla Academy site.  They were both
done at the Sustainable Living Fair in Ft. Collins last month.

Dan Fink -- co-author of Homebrew Wind Power
Jen Steen -- machinist with an alternative energy lab

http://www.teslaacademy.info/pc1.html



-- Michael Riversong
Tesla Academy
Cheyenne, Wyoming
www.teslaacademy.info
rivedu@...