Hi everyone, I've been quiet on this list for a long long time, mostly because I have heads-down building a complex web application called SourceCast. ...
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brogers@...
Feb 28, 2001 5:22 pm
In the projects I've tried to utilize Use Cases, I've had to justify their use both to clients and colleagues. Toward that end, I've created this "Essential...
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Lu, Hongzheng (Cindy)
CindyLu@...
Feb 28, 2001 5:28 pm
Thanks! The links are very useful! - Cindy ... From: brogers@... [mailto:brogers@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:22...
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jrobbins@...
Feb 28, 2001 6:41 pm
... Thanks Buc! This is really good stuff. I have added all the links to the group bookmarks at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/usage-centered/links/ jason! -- ...
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Dave
control@...
Apr 8, 2001 5:04 am
Hello All, My name is David Schofield (Dave), and I'm new to this group. The email I received said to introduce myself, so here goes. I am the Usability Design...
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Tony Mann
tonymann@...
Apr 23, 2001 1:41 pm
On the Extreme Programming (XP) mailing list (extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com) there is a discussion going on about using UCD within an XP project. If you...
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Larry Constantine
lConstantine@...
Apr 23, 2001 11:02 pm
Tony's comments deserve a thorough reply, especially since there has been a great deal of recent activity in the area of usage-centered design in relation to...
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Nuno J. Nunes
njn@...
Apr 23, 2001 11:46 pm
on 4/23/01 14:41, Tony Mann at tonymann@... wrote: Hi, ... I've some experience adapting several techniques of UsageCD into lightweight environments. Here...
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Larry Constantine
lConstantine@...
Apr 24, 2001 2:03 am
Nuno got it right on target and highlighted several important distinctions separating U-CD and XP approaches. ... Essential use cases can be derived from user...
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Hallvard Tratteberg
hal@...
Apr 24, 2001 7:21 am
Tony, ... the ... The question of incremental and piece-wise design of UI is difficult one. One the one hand it is too simplistic to say that UI for each task...
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Tony Mann
tonymann@...
Apr 24, 2001 10:13 am
First of all, thanks for the long and detailed reply. [I would like to post this to the XP list; do I have your permission to do so?] You present various...
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Tony Mann
tonymann@...
Apr 24, 2001 10:17 am
... As I said in my post to Larry, there might be a third option: 3. Create your usage model based on *all* available stories; i.e. your model spans many...
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Hallvard Trętteberg
hal@...
Apr 24, 2001 10:25 am
Hi all, In one of the last discussions, both UCD (Tony) and U-CD (Larry) acronyms where used. I usually think of the first as User-Centered Design, and find it...
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Mark Collins-Cope
markcc@...
Apr 24, 2001 10:55 am
... Hi Nuno, Tony, Larry, Hallvard, ... Picking up a few points here: 1. A system may be developed incrementally, but that doesn't mean it has to be released...
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Nuno J. Nunes
njn@...
Apr 24, 2001 10:59 am
... That's what a UI architectural model is. I've extensive experience with this approach in turbulent environments and the results are very good (check ...
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Larry Constantine
lConstantine@...
Apr 24, 2001 2:05 pm
... Lucy Lockwood and I started the U-CD abbreviation for usage-centered design precisely to distinguish it from UCD, a common abbreviation for "user centered...
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Larry Constantine
lConstantine@...
Apr 24, 2001 2:45 pm
... How very true. We often find naive initial designs that are "simple" but at the expense of making nearly everything equally hard. All too many published ...
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Larry Constantine
lConstantine@...
Apr 24, 2001 3:05 pm
... This is a good idea. Looking at "all" the user stories is analogous to building a complete inventory of task cases (essential use cases), which in our...
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Larry Constantine
lConstantine@...
Apr 24, 2001 3:25 pm
... As I learned at MIT and we always tell our classes, it's all tradeoffs. Somewhere between lies the path for any given project. Incidentally, we go against...
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Larry Constantine
lConstantine@...
Apr 24, 2001 3:45 pm
... Great questions. We construct test cases for UIs (that is usability test scenarios) through a multi-step process working back from task cases to scenarios....
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Nuno J. Nunes
njn@...
Apr 24, 2001 4:58 pm
on 24/04/01 16:45, Larry Constantine at lConstantine@... wrote: I was trying to raise more interesting questions, which from my experience are far...
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Mark Collins-Cope
markcc@...
Apr 24, 2001 6:27 pm
... Lightweight - low deliverables burden on development team. Agile - can change direction quickly. Can a process support agility without being lightweight?...
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Mark Collins-Cope
markcc@...
Apr 24, 2001 6:27 pm
Hi, ... A question: is there any focus in usage-centered design in factoring out the underlying functionality independently of the user interface? Ciao, Mark. ...
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Nuno J. Nunes
njn@...
Apr 24, 2001 6:46 pm
... Hi Mark, I'm not talking about UsageCD anymore. I'm talking about a different method that shares with UsageCD essential use-case modeling for requirements ...
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Hallvard Tratteberg
hal@...
Apr 24, 2001 9:08 pm
Larry and Nuno, ... posted so far ... wrong-headed. ... This is interesting, since the original Alexandrian patterns have more in common with UID patterns than...
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Tony Mann
tonymann@...
Apr 24, 2001 10:33 pm
I really like your idea of decomposing the UI, since it more readily opens it up to refactoring. For example, as more tasks get added, we can quantify whether...
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Tony Mann
tonymann@...
Apr 25, 2001 1:34 pm
... to be ... may be ... At least in XP, the customer is taking a look at every iteration. Now, sometimes the customer is not the end user, but often they are....
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Tony Mann
tonymann@...
Apr 25, 2001 1:41 pm
On the XP Wiki site, there is a page called "Spartan User Interface": http://c2.com/cgi/wiki/wiki?SpartanUserInterface. It basically advocates the "naive"...
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Larry Constantine
lConstantine@...
Apr 25, 2001 1:51 pm
... Yes. Usage-centered design separates system actors (representing other systems and software) from user roles and system use cases, which support system...
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Larry Constantine
lConstantine@...
Apr 25, 2001 1:51 pm
... True. But, see my reply to Nuno. ... How does your notation compare, contrast, and connect with essential use cases and canonical prototypes? --Larry...
