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Dear video bloggers,

There is no conspiracy here. No one is trying to steal your content,
and wall it up in a closed system. No one is trying to ignore your CC
copyrights.

We are simply working out issues of an early launch, and expect to
have them fixed shortly.

1. We are cleaning our database of RSS feeds (if your feed is in the
database and you don't want it to be, email us and we will remove it
immediately). We are working on automated ways of making sure that
the database stays clean by better verification of feed ownership and
obeying CC licenses.

2. We are adding links back to the original web site of the feed, and
will make them prominent on the page. We have no intention of being a
closed community.

3. We are listening to the needs of the video blogging community and
intend to sponsor VloggerCon 2006 to meet everyone in person. If you
want to take me out back and beat the crap out of me for launching a
product with holes in it, then so be it.

I will be traveling for the next week, but have engineers working on
it, and hopefully by the time that I get back, all of this will be
fixed and we can all get on with video blogging.

Thanks for listening, and please don't paint this into some form of a
conspiracy to rip off video bloggers. That is just not what this is.

Dmitry









Sun Apr 9, 2006 1:29 am

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Dear video bloggers, There is no conspiracy here. No one is trying to steal your content, and wall it up in a closed system. No one is trying to ignore your...
dmitry_veoh
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Apr 9, 2006
1:29 am

Please forgive me, but I haven't followed this thread, and I'm too lazy to reread everything. Is anyone willing to summarize why the emails and emotions are...
Monique Danielle
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Apr 9, 2006
1:36 am

Hello, I've been following the various threads on this. And my take on it is this.... The big issue here revolves around Copyright, Copyright Infringement,...
Charles Iliya Krempeaux
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Apr 9, 2006
10:05 am

I think copyright is only one part of the problem here. The bigger problem in my eyes is that by Veoh caching and rehosting videos without permission they are...
Joshua Kinberg
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Apr 9, 2006
4:28 pm

Helo Josh, Just to address one very very specific thing that you said. (And not trying to address everything you said.) The HTTP protocol has a way of tell...
Charles Iliya Krempeaux
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Apr 9, 2006
6:23 pm

I just noticed Om has posted on his blog, the last link is to another of his posts ("Its A Splog Planet") which is an interesting read on the situation. ...
robert a/k/a r
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Apr 9, 2006
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On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:23:15 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux ... HTTP cacheing is storing with the intent of optimizing subsequent requests to the same...
Andreas Haugstrup
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Apr 9, 2006
6:33 pm

Hello, ... The HTTP "no-cache" header has gained a legal context also. I remember reading about multiple court cases where this was perpetuated; both in ...
Charles Iliya Krempeaux
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Apr 9, 2006
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On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:40:49 +0200, Charles Iliya Krempeaux ... Sounds like it's not something that will apply in this case. People are not running their own...
Andreas Haugstrup
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Apr 9, 2006
6:43 pm

Hello Andreas, ... That's a good point. But (assuming that Veoh coded their systems to act as a web cache) Veoh could argue that they acted in good faith when...
Charles Iliya Krempeaux
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Apr 9, 2006
7:08 pm

... That's not what they're doing, though. They take videos in common file formats and convert them to another file format (proprietary? Flash?), reposting an...
Stephanie Bryant
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Apr 9, 2006
6:55 pm

Hello Stephanie, Like I said in my original post, that you replied to, I was ONLY talking caching. Just caching and nothing else. I was NOT trying to address...
Charles Iliya Krempeaux
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Apr 9, 2006
7:12 pm

Uh, dude, this is so far off the subject. I'm not talking about browser caching. I'm talking about downloading videos from one server to another and then ...
Joshua Kinberg
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Apr 9, 2006
6:57 pm

Hello Josh, The HTTP "no-cache" header does NOT just pertain to browser caching. It's also used by transparent web caches, and other web caching systems. ...
Charles Iliya Krempeaux
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Apr 9, 2006
7:35 pm

But Charles they aren't caching. Caching is keeping a copy of an object to make new requests for it faster. They are hosting derivative works. The work was...
David Meade
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Apr 9, 2006
7:59 pm

Hello David, The point you made about requests for the new (cached/re-hosted) object having nothing to do with requests for the original work is a very good ...
Charles Iliya Krempeaux
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Apr 9, 2006
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How dare you have the gall to type that when you HAVE ALREADY stolen my content and you ignored my Copyright license. You have already ripped off...
David Howell
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Apr 9, 2006
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