People are free to delete any video and it won't show up. We have still
not received any requests from anyone asking for their links to be
removed. On the other hand we have received many requests to be included.

If you want to contact the maintainers of the videoblogging.info website
(that'd be Brittany and myself) the e-mail address is right there on the
page. If anyone wants to discuss the actual content of the manifesto and
why we think a reflexive process is important, you can also e-mail us
there.

- Andreas

Den 17.01.2008 kl. 13:29 skrev David Meade <meade.dave@...>:

> On Jan 17, 2008 1:07 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
> <solitude@...> wrote:
>> Any speculation on whether or not the link would be removed would be
>> just
>> that, speculation. Please don't start making up issues that are not
>> there.
>
> Andreas, I'm not making anything up. YOU said that if we didnt want
> to be included at your site we were free to delete our videos from
> blip/our site.
> YOU said (and I quote) "If you want to have your videos removed simply
> delete them from your website." YOU continued on to expound about the
> link-oriented nature of the web and reaffirmed again in a second email
> that if we didn't want to be listed we should delete our hosted video.
>
>> No one has ever e-mailed me or Brittany with a request to remove a
> link from the site.
>
> I never said they did. However there seems to be some concern here in
> this thread and YOU HAVE STATED that if they don't like they are free
> to delete their video.
>
> My concern is hardly speculative, and I'm certainly not making
> anything up. Please don't start putting word in my mouth.
>
>> David, you can rest assured that people would have to stay on the
>> lumiere
>> site for over 3 hours before your video would be played.
>
> That's hardly the point, Andreas - and I suspect you know that. If it
> took 45 years for my video to show up on a site whose premise I
> disagreed with, I as the creator of the creative work should be able
> to request it not be displayed as "participant".
>
>> There is a clear
>> link to the blogpost where the video came from right below it (same way
>> iTunes handles videos).
>
> Except iTunes doesn't publish a manifesto stating my beliefs /
> inspirations as they relate to my creative works.
>
>> Are you are outraged on your own behalf or on the behalf of unknown
>> strangers? Apart from the 3-4 very vocal people in this thread we have
>> received many positive comments from people who have created lumiere
>> videos.
>
> I'm sure you have gotten good feedback as well. But what about those
> 3-4 people expressing concerns here? Are you going to honor their
> request to not be included, or are you sticking to your "you're free
> to delete your video" stance?
>
> The only thing I was outraged about was your insistent need to default
> to an insulting and combative tone with people who were just trying to
> be part of the community. I said I was shocked about your insistence
> that you would not honor requests for removal (see above where I
> remind you of what YOU said).
>
>
> - Dave
>



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Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
http://www.solitude.dk/