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Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV   Message List  
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Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

hmm... I had assumed that Heath was talking about overlay ads DURING
the program. I don't have a problem with pre-roll and post-roll ads
of whatever type. They just have to be integrated properly with the
subject matter. I say if pre-roll's going to be peppy and bouncy, get
it out of the way in the first 3 seconds of the show, before the
on-air talent sets up the piece.

Then again, unfortunately, some groups don't burn their ads in
directly. I forget what the name is of the service, but when I did my
Indy Mogul episode, the plan was to provide two segments that made up
the entire show, and the commercial in between was added by that
program/service. I'll assume that's so the ads can be dynamically
inserted.

Anyway, like I said in the other post, it's the difference between
doing art for the sake of art and doing art so that people will stop
by and click on it and give you some ad revenue. hahaha It's only
going to get worse from here on out! :D


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <rupert@...> wrote:
>
> I thought it was funny - just made me laugh at the advertiser - but
> yeah, i'm pretty amazed at the stupidity of advertisers, still making
> one-size-fits-all adverts, even little 5 second pre-roll ones.
> simplistic ideas of brand identity etc mean they can't get their
> heads around supplying a variety of different tones to be used
> depending on the content. without realising that this kind of use of
> your brand makes you seem like an idiot. they might as well have
> inserted the title sequence from The Hills.
>
> On 26-Aug-08, at 9:52 AM, Heath wrote:
>
> I am glad jay and ryanne are back safe, I am glad that boing boing
> and others are trying to report things....but....and for me it's a
> big but....the ads on the video piece from boing boing turned me
> off....I mean, here are jay and ryanne talking about people being
> detained and how that they are basicly trying to get out of town
> before they themselves are detained and I get some upbeat rockin ad
> for, heck I don't even know but it just seemed sooo out of
> place....it detracted me from the overall message...maybe it's just
> me...but.....
>
> Heath
> http://batmangeek.com
> http://heathparks.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <rupert@> wrote:
> >
> > http://tv.boingboing.net/2008/08/25/boing-boing-tv-proti.html
> >
> > "Last week, eight American citizens were detained in Beijing for
> > participating in pro-Tibetan sovereignty protests near the site of
> > the 2008 Olympics, with Students for a Free Tibet. Two
> videobloggers
> > who documented those protest and guerrilla art installations
> evaded
> > detention, and spoke to Boing Boing TV on Friday Beijing time
> about
> > why they were there, what they witnessed, and why it mattered.
> >
> > "Jay Dedman and Ryanne Hodson of Ryanishungry.com spoke to us over
> > Skype from a hostel in Beijing. One of the actions they documented
> in
> > photo and video was the hanging of an "LED throwies" light banner,
> > below, which read "FREE TIBET." We agreed to hold this Boing Boing
> tv
> > episode until after we received word that they'd safely left the
> > country. They have returned home, so I am posting the piece today."
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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http://tv.boingboing.net/2008/08/25/boing-boing-tv-proti.html "Last week, eight American citizens were detained in Beijing for participating in pro-Tibetan...
Rupert
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Aug 25, 2008
8:20 pm

Thanks for the link. So interesting. I'm glad they were able to avoid detention....
Bill Cammack
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Aug 25, 2008
10:39 pm

hey Jay and Ryanne    I just watched your video bout Beijing in Boing ´n Tv   you look worried and scared...heheh you guys are really brave to do that... ...
John Cardenas
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Aug 26, 2008
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I am glad jay and ryanne are back safe, I am glad that boing boing and others are trying to report things....but....and for me it's a big but....the ads on the...
Heath
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Aug 26, 2008
4:52 pm

I thought it was funny - just made me laugh at the advertiser - but yeah, i'm pretty amazed at the stupidity of advertisers, still making one-size-fits-all...
Rupert
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Aug 26, 2008
5:00 pm

hmm... I had assumed that Heath was talking about overlay ads DURING the program. I don't have a problem with pre-roll and post-roll ads of whatever type....
Bill Cammack
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Aug 26, 2008
5:14 pm

... And maybe it's going to get better. BoingBoing is able to lure advertising because of the way the internet has been hyped up. But when the hype dies, and...
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Aug 26, 2008
8:42 pm

thinking about it, the main reason it was so obnoxious was because it came after the intro soundbite from jay and after the boingboing tv ident, so it wasn't...
Rupert
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Aug 26, 2008
5:19 pm

I hear what you're saying, but bills have to be paid. I don't know anything about boingboing, so I can't speak for them specifically, but that's the game...
Bill Cammack
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Aug 26, 2008
5:07 pm

Oh indeed I do know that is the nature of the "biz" but I can't help but think, maybe an ad for not smoking or maybe a company that is doing "green" or social...
Heath
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Aug 26, 2008
5:14 pm

Well, like I said, I agree with you entirely. I was "shocked" enough just reading the twitter or link here or whatever that informed me that they had been...
Bill Cammack
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Aug 26, 2008
5:20 pm

I don't think they have to have different advertisers for different moods. Their advertiser just needs to provide maybe two or three different styles of their...
Rupert
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Aug 26, 2008
5:31 pm

It's funny I didn't even notice the ad's DURING the interview just the one's before and after....I was too distracked by the blonde to notice the overlays.....
Heath
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Aug 26, 2008
5:37 pm

... That was my fault for ASSUMING you meant mid-roll overlay ads. I'm not aware that boingboing even USES those. I didn't mean to imply that there were any...
Bill Cammack
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Aug 26, 2008
8:57 pm

I don't accept those excuses on their behalf. My point is not about art, or they way the advert affects the way the viewer engages with the interview. I...
Rupert
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Aug 26, 2008
9:22 pm

... I see what you're saying. Agreed. If they're using burned-in advertisements, jacking up the flow of your show does make you look like you don't know how...
Bill Cammack
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Aug 26, 2008
10:07 pm

As a big news story, that video will be viewed by countless people. Advertisers are wise to attach to it. - Mary...
mcmpress
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Aug 27, 2008
11:08 am

It's not about them having ads, it was just the type of ad...for me it broke the flow, it seemed intrusive....but I understand that ads are what makes the...
Heath
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