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Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV   Message List  
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Re: Jay and Ryanne interviewed in Beijing on BoingBoing TV

It's not about them having ads, it was just the type of ad...for me
it broke the flow, it seemed intrusive....but I understand that ads
are what makes the world go round.....

Heath
http://batmangeek.com
http://heathparks.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "mcmpress" <mcmpress@...> wrote:
>
> As a big news story, that video will be viewed by countless people.
> Advertisers are wise to attach to it.
>
> - Mary
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <billcammack@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I hear what you're saying, but bills have to be paid. I don't
know
> > anything about boingboing, so I can't speak for them
specifically, but
> > that's the game that's being played here. Get people to click on
your
> > video, get people to click on your ads, get revenue to pay
people's
> > salaries. There's nothing else going on here.
> >
> > It's like when you make a Ning community. You can make it for
free if
> > you leave the google ads on your site and lose the use of an
entire
> > sidebar... or you can pay Ning to make it worth their while to
ditch
> > the ads and let you use the sidebar. Lots of people choose to
make
> > free Ning sites and lots of people choose to watch free boingboing
> > videos with whatever ads you saw on them.
> >
> > I know you know this already and were just stating facts, :) and I
> > agree with you for the most part. The thing that SUCKS for me
with
> > overlay ads is that you don't know when they're going to come up,
so
> > as the content creator, when you go to font someone in THE LOWER
3RD
> > OF THE SCREEN, some bullshit ad comes up over your title and the
> > effect you were creating as art is completely lost. If that's the
> > only time you mention someone's name/title in the piece, people
are in
> > the dark the whole time.
> >
> > Also, like you said, overlay ads of ANY kind destroy immersion,
but
> > like I said, it's about making your money back, not making art
that is
> > poignant and has the desired effect on the viewer that the artist
> > (content creator) intended.
> >
> > Removing ads would defeat the purpose of doing the videos in the
first
> > place. (Again, having nothing specifically to do with boingboing)
> >
> > Bill Cammack
> > http://billcammack.com
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <heathparks@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am glad jay and ryanne are back safe, I am glad that boing
boing
> > > and others are trying to report things....but....and for me
it's a
> > > big but....the ads on the video piece from boing boing turned
me
> > > off....I mean, here are jay and ryanne talking about people
being
> > > detained and how that they are basicly trying to get out of
town
> > > before they themselves are detained and I get some upbeat
rockin ad
> > > for, heck I don't even know but it just seemed sooo out of
> > > place....it detracted me from the overall message...maybe it's
just
> > > me...but.....
> > >
> > > Heath
> > > http://batmangeek.com
> > > http://heathparks.com
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <rupert@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://tv.boingboing.net/2008/08/25/boing-boing-tv-proti.html
> > > >
> > > > "Last week, eight American citizens were detained in Beijing
for
> > > > participating in pro-Tibetan sovereignty protests near the
site of
> > > > the 2008 Olympics, with Students for a Free Tibet. Two
> > > videobloggers
> > > > who documented those protest and guerrilla art installations
> > > evaded
> > > > detention, and spoke to Boing Boing TV on Friday Beijing time
> > > about
> > > > why they were there, what they witnessed, and why it mattered.
> > > >
> > > > "Jay Dedman and Ryanne Hodson of Ryanishungry.com spoke to us
over
> > > > Skype from a hostel in Beijing. One of the actions they
documented
> > > in
> > > > photo and video was the hanging of an "LED throwies" light
banner,
> > > > below, which read "FREE TIBET." We agreed to hold this Boing
Boing
> > > tv
> > > > episode until after we received word that they'd safely left
the
> > > > country. They have returned home, so I am posting the piece
today."
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





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http://tv.boingboing.net/2008/08/25/boing-boing-tv-proti.html "Last week, eight American citizens were detained in Beijing for participating in pro-Tibetan...
Rupert
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Aug 25, 2008
8:20 pm

Thanks for the link. So interesting. I'm glad they were able to avoid detention....
Bill Cammack
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Aug 25, 2008
10:39 pm

hey Jay and Ryanne    I just watched your video bout Beijing in Boing ´n Tv   you look worried and scared...heheh you guys are really brave to do that... ...
John Cardenas
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Aug 26, 2008
3:31 am

I am glad jay and ryanne are back safe, I am glad that boing boing and others are trying to report things....but....and for me it's a big but....the ads on the...
Heath
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Aug 26, 2008
4:52 pm

I thought it was funny - just made me laugh at the advertiser - but yeah, i'm pretty amazed at the stupidity of advertisers, still making one-size-fits-all...
Rupert
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Aug 26, 2008
5:00 pm

hmm... I had assumed that Heath was talking about overlay ads DURING the program. I don't have a problem with pre-roll and post-roll ads of whatever type....
Bill Cammack
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Aug 26, 2008
5:14 pm

... And maybe it's going to get better. BoingBoing is able to lure advertising because of the way the internet has been hyped up. But when the hype dies, and...
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Aug 26, 2008
8:42 pm

thinking about it, the main reason it was so obnoxious was because it came after the intro soundbite from jay and after the boingboing tv ident, so it wasn't...
Rupert
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Aug 26, 2008
5:19 pm

I hear what you're saying, but bills have to be paid. I don't know anything about boingboing, so I can't speak for them specifically, but that's the game...
Bill Cammack
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Aug 26, 2008
5:07 pm

Oh indeed I do know that is the nature of the "biz" but I can't help but think, maybe an ad for not smoking or maybe a company that is doing "green" or social...
Heath
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Aug 26, 2008
5:14 pm

Well, like I said, I agree with you entirely. I was "shocked" enough just reading the twitter or link here or whatever that informed me that they had been...
Bill Cammack
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Aug 26, 2008
5:20 pm

I don't think they have to have different advertisers for different moods. Their advertiser just needs to provide maybe two or three different styles of their...
Rupert
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Aug 26, 2008
5:31 pm

It's funny I didn't even notice the ad's DURING the interview just the one's before and after....I was too distracked by the blonde to notice the overlays.....
Heath
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Aug 26, 2008
5:37 pm

... That was my fault for ASSUMING you meant mid-roll overlay ads. I'm not aware that boingboing even USES those. I didn't mean to imply that there were any...
Bill Cammack
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Aug 26, 2008
8:57 pm

I don't accept those excuses on their behalf. My point is not about art, or they way the advert affects the way the viewer engages with the interview. I...
Rupert
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Aug 26, 2008
9:22 pm

... I see what you're saying. Agreed. If they're using burned-in advertisements, jacking up the flow of your show does make you look like you don't know how...
Bill Cammack
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Aug 26, 2008
10:07 pm

As a big news story, that video will be viewed by countless people. Advertisers are wise to attach to it. - Mary...
mcmpress
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Aug 27, 2008
11:08 am

It's not about them having ads, it was just the type of ad...for me it broke the flow, it seemed intrusive....but I understand that ads are what makes the...
Heath
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Aug 27, 2008
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