http://feeds.feedburner.com/Kumquats

Keep it sideways! Sideways is way arty and cool! ;)

Besides that, the only method I can think of myself is cutting the
film into frames and rotating each frame in your GIMP/similar, and
then stitching it together again. I know there are better methods out
there, but I don't have experience with any :)

Raymond


On 5/1/05, Deirdre Straughan <deirdre.straughan@...> wrote:
>  I don't usually use my digital still camera for video, but the other
>  day I grabbed a few seconds of something (an antique steam train we
>  happened to pass when I was on the regular train going to work) when I
>  didn't have my video camera on me. I first took some still shots, and
>  I often do verticals, so when I hit the video switch, I forgot that I
>  was no longer doing stills, and left the camera sideways. So now I
>  have a sideways video. Is there something that will flip it over for
>  me?
>
>  --
>  best regards,
>  Deirdré Straughan
>  www.straughan.com
>
>  ________________________________
>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

I've just posted a vaguely "Star Wars"-related entry into my vlog.  Really just
a silly snippet
of conversation with my friend Phil.  Got me thinking it'd be fun to see other
vloggers'
mundane personal experiences with the pop culture mythos George Lucas has
created.  In
my post I issued a "vlog challenge"... make an entry about Star Wars.

Come to think of it... I've already gone through a few phases of making Star
Wars the
subject of collaborative art projects.  A few years ago, I put together two
zines that
consisted of peoples' unreferenced (from memory) drawings of C3PO and R2-D2. 
And
twice over the last few years (at each Star Wars release) I tried to get people
in line to act
out the movie on camera.

My recent entry...
http://bigtimetelevision.blogspot.com

Give in to the dork side of the vlog,
Ed

Thanks, Joel!
Jan

On May 1, 2005, at 1:49 AM, joel carner wrote:

> jan - don't forget freevlog.org
>
> joel
> http://joelart.blogspot.com
>
> On 4/30/05, Jan McLaughlin <vze4pnhk@...> wrote:
>> Hey, baby, I'm multi-media oriented.
>>
>> Sue me.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> P.S. Thanks for the links.
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2005, at 2:32 PM, Adam Quirk wrote:
>>
>>> freevlog.blogspot.com
>>> videoblogging.info
>>>
>>> Podcasts?  Huh?
>>>
>>> On 4/30/05, Jan McLaughlin <vze4pnhk@...> wrote:
>>>> Want to publish a single link for folks who know absolutely nothing
>>>> about getting set up to subscribe to Vlog & Podcasts.
>>>>
>>>> What are your favorite tutorial sites?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Josh,

My G4 QT6 Pro came back with a "QT doesn't have the software" error
when accessing the vid page.

Jan
[growling like a Tiger]

On May 1, 2005, at 1:40 AM, Josh Wolf wrote:

> I've got some video from the Tiger Launch at the SF Apple store in
> H264 on my blog. I put it up at 640x480 in the hopes that I could
> make a file that's manageable, and yet looks good for full-screen
> video. No luck... oh well... I think I agree with Michael that 3IVX
> seems to be just as good as H264 for the most part. It certainly is
> more intuitive when it comes to tweaking the preferences for the codec.
>
> Here's the clip from the launch:
> http://tinyurl.com/de3ku
>
> Josh
>
> On Apr 30, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Jason Romney wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I've uploaded to www.netvideo.com.au an H264 edition of the
>> Netvideo episode
>> which is about Tiger, having encoded it on the Tiger I've installed
>> (following an upgrade to Quicktime 7).
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/jason_romney/JasonSwifte290405.3gp
>>
>> I'm having a lot of trouble getting the framerate right in H263
>> encodes, by
>> the way, and would appreciate anyone's insights here. H264 works
>> fine when I
>> play it back, but H263 seems to only show the first frames of the
>> video and
>> then somehow get "stuck" on a frame and refuse to show the rest of the
>> video. The audio is fine. Does anyone have some H263 video encode
>> configuration settings that work well for them? And on which
>> cellphones have
>> people tested H263, and of course, also, H264 encodes, for good smooth
>> playback so far?
>>
>> By the way, overall, I'm delighted with Tiger, but I've had to update
>> numerous pieces of software at considerable expense (eg Timbuktu
>> Pro). In
>> addition, some critical software I use often, such as
>> BlogWaveStudio (which
>> I use to publish my Web site), quits in Tiger and a new version
>> 1.9.1 isn't
>> expected for a week or two...so its back to manual coding for a while.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Jason Romney
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> To visit your group on the web, go to:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>> videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>>
>
>
> ____________________________________________
> "Don't hate the media, become the media."- Jello Biafra
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Oh, yeah! QT (pro anyway).

Movie / Get Movie Properties / Video Track / Size

In the arrows / rotate circles you will find the solution to your
dilemma.

Jan

On May 1, 2005, at 2:30 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:

> I don't usually use my digital still camera for video, but the other
> day I grabbed a few seconds of something (an antique steam train we
> happened to pass when I was on the regular train going to work) when I
> didn't have my video camera on me. I first took some still shots, and
> I often do verticals, so when I hit the video switch, I forgot that I
> was no longer doing stills, and left the camera sideways. So now I
> have a sideways video. Is there something that will flip it over for
> me?
>
> --
> best regards,
> Deirdré Straughan
> www.straughan.com
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Jan, you're not missing much -- but, since you asked -- I'm putting
up a 3ivx version right now...

Josh

http://thisrevolution.blogspot.com


On May 1, 2005, at 1:18 AM, Jan McLaughlin wrote:

> Josh,
>
> My G4 QT6 Pro came back with a "QT doesn't have the software" error
> when accessing the vid page.
>
> Jan
> [growling like a Tiger]
>
> On May 1, 2005, at 1:40 AM, Josh Wolf wrote:
>
> > I've got some video from the Tiger Launch at the SF Apple store in
> > H264 on my blog. I put it up at 640x480 in the hopes that I could
> > make a file that's manageable, and yet looks good for full-screen
> > video. No luck... oh well... I think I agree with Michael that 3IVX
> > seems to be just as good as H264 for the most part. It certainly is
> > more intuitive when it comes to tweaking the preferences for the
> codec.
> >
> > Here's the clip from the launch:
> > http://tinyurl.com/de3ku
> >
> > Josh
> >
> > On Apr 30, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Jason Romney wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> I've uploaded to www.netvideo.com.au an H264 edition of the
> >> Netvideo episode
> >> which is about Tiger, having encoded it on the Tiger I've installed
> >> (following an upgrade to Quicktime 7).
> >>
> >> http://homepage.mac.com/jason_romney/JasonSwifte290405.3gp
> >>
> >> I'm having a lot of trouble getting the framerate right in H263
> >> encodes, by
> >> the way, and would appreciate anyone's insights here. H264 works
> >> fine when I
> >> play it back, but H263 seems to only show the first frames of the
> >> video and
> >> then somehow get "stuck" on a frame and refuse to show the rest
> of the
> >> video. The audio is fine. Does anyone have some H263 video encode
> >> configuration settings that work well for them? And on which
> >> cellphones have
> >> people tested H263, and of course, also, H264 encodes, for good
> smooth
> >> playback so far?
> >>
> >> By the way, overall, I'm delighted with Tiger, but I've had to
> update
> >> numerous pieces of software at considerable expense (eg Timbuktu
> >> Pro). In
> >> addition, some critical software I use often, such as
> >> BlogWaveStudio (which
> >> I use to publish my Web site), quits in Tiger and a new version
> >> 1.9.1 isn't
> >> expected for a week or two...so its back to manual coding for a
> while.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Jason Romney
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >> videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >>
> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
> >>
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________
> > "Don't hate the media, become the media."- Jello Biafra
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>


____________________________________________
"Don't hate the media, become the media."- Jello Biafra

Here is a re-distribution of my latest post on my videoblog:
http://dltq.blogs.com/vlog/2005/05/polivlog_2005.html

What do you think?

Best,

Raymond M. Kristiansen
http://dltq.blogs.com

***

Polivlog = Political videoblog

Polivlog 2005 = My initiative for more political videoblogging in 2005
and beyond. I start it today.

About polivlog 2005
Ever since I started videoblogging back in December 2004, my main aim
has been to use this new approach to media for political purposes. We
are currently in the middle of an election campaign here in Norway,
and things are heating up. Actually, today is May 1st, the labour day
here in Norway, and this afternoon Jens Stoltenberg, the president of
the labour party, will hold a speech here in Bergen. Jens Stoltenberg
wants to be the prime minister here in Norway after the parliamentary
elections on September 12th. I will do all I can to stop him.

My political party is the Norwegian Liberal Party - we are firmly in
the centre of the Norwegian political spectrum, and we have cooperated
both with the left and the right. We are currently in a coalition
government together with the Conservatives and the
Christian-Democrats. Personally I have my reasons to dislike both of
those parties, but they are better than the alternatives right now.
Our party is pragmatic, yet firm on our ideology. We are small, and
our current popular backing is at about 4%. We are small, yet we are
important. Our 4% count for a lot in the parliamentary situation of
today.

In this election campaign, the socialists will do whatever they can to
spread lies about the current government. Erm, let me rephrase that...
In this election campaign, the socialists will do whatever they can to
make things look worse than they are. It is my job, as editor of the
member's magazine of the youth branch of our party, to work against
some of this. It is my function as blogging and videoblogging
responsible in our whole party to give our politicians and volunteers
tools to spread OUR part of the story. I don't want the traditional
media game to continue. I don't like the old talk-shows where each
party is given 30 seconds to sell their "point". Politics is serious
business, and I don't want to reduce it to some fucking circus.
Debates take time, facts need to be uncovered, and spread, and
different ideologies need to meet - in a dialogue.

The blogosphere and vlogosphere are two of my most important tools in
this election campaign. To be honest, there is not much of a
vlogosphere here in Norway yet - as far as I know, I am still the only
really active videoblogger here in Norway. I hope to be able to show
how vlogging can help individuals, organizations or parties during
this election campaign. I hope to show how videoblogging can be about
more than whatever funny thing we happen to see in our neighbourhood,
or some pretty flower.


Polivlog 2005 is my initiative to spread the word of political
videoblogging in Norway and abroad. We need to help organizations to
start videoblogging. We need to show political parties, NGOs,
individual pundits and others that videoblogging can be a highly
effective and very low-budget approach to PR.

If you are interested in Polivlog 2005, I urge you to help. You don't
have to join my team, you don't have to subscribe to my tag or steal
the badge that I will make, but I would be happy if we could
communicate about how to spread political videoblogging. Or
organizational videoblogging, if you wish. (I just think polivlog
sounds way cooler!!)

Polivlog 2005 is about organizational videoblogging; it is about using
videoblogging to share information about issues that concerns our
society. Be it our street, our village, or our planet.

There is so much information out there - we just need to spread it,
aggragate it, and use it.

Polivlogging might just be what we need to grow as a global society.
Truly grow and learn from each other.

Want to help?

(ps. Yes, I know that I am active in a certain political party myself,
and that you might wonder if I am mixing the issues here. I disagree
with a lot of what the socialists are saying, but I am no bigot. I
would LOVE to help the socialists, communists, racists,
christian-conservatives or outright maniacs to videoblog. I would be
happy to tell any political opponent about videoblogging and how it
can help us all communicate. My goal is to enhance the freedom of
speech, not just help my own little political party in our race
against the other parties. Oh, and another disclaimer: Yes, I work for
a blogging software company. I am videoblogging responsible at
BlogSoft)

ps2: Thank you to Peter for giving me the polivlog word. I pronounce
it with a 'f'.

Hi,
I recently noticed that they've totally rewritten the videoblogging
entry over on Wikipedia.

In fact, videoblogging over there now forwards you to vlog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlog

The Wikipedians changed it because they don't like Gerunds as page
titles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerund

I should have paid more attention in High School

So I've just gone in and changed the definition part of the post for
vlog since it was inaccurate.  I'd left  up my feelings about it in teh
discussion page, but no one changed anything, so I did it myself.

You'll see in the disussion page that it used to say:

"A vlog is technically a video blog, in that blog entries are recorded
as video of up to around 5 minutes in length, although they may be
longer. This is different to video in a blog, which may be any video
content which is attached to a more traditional blog entry. "

Wrong.

It's just video in a blog.  we've all been through this before.

Anyone can go over to Wikipedia and help create the best definition
ever for vlog.
--Steve
http://stevegarfield.com

Dear Raymond,

A great lot of subtle political vlogging goes on, like this for
example:
http://fauxpress.blogspot.com/2005/04/faux-press-vlog-bridges.html

Do you intend to focus on / promote less subtle / more in-your-face
manifestations of the process with this, or is poetical political
acceptable? :)

Perhaps a tagging / metadata campaign would work? To tag things
"polivlog" or something similar? So that you could more easily locate /
aggregate those vlog entries that are in keeping with political
awareness.

I'm still a bit confused about / put off by the Technorati tagging
thing even though I've read the FAQ. Coding vlog entries is not my
favorite thing. Wish Technorati could pick up on metadata included in
the .mov file.

Jan


--
"It isn't done alone" - Ian Watson, Love Detective & Staff Writer
http://fauxpress.blogspot.com

On May 1, 2005, at 4:57 AM, R. Kristiansen wrote:

> Here is a re-distribution of my latest post on my videoblog:
> http://dltq.blogs.com/vlog/2005/05/polivlog_2005.html
>
> What do you think?
>
> Best,
>
> Raymond M. Kristiansen
> http://dltq.blogs.com
>
> ***
>
> Polivlog = Political videoblog
>
> Polivlog 2005 = My initiative for more political videoblogging in 2005
> and beyond. I start it today.
>
> About polivlog 2005
> Ever since I started videoblogging back in December 2004, my main aim
> has been to use this new approach to media for political purposes. We
> are currently in the middle of an election campaign here in Norway,
> and things are heating up. Actually, today is May 1st, the labour day
> here in Norway, and this afternoon Jens Stoltenberg, the president of
> the labour party, will hold a speech here in Bergen. Jens Stoltenberg
> wants to be the prime minister here in Norway after the parliamentary
> elections on September 12th. I will do all I can to stop him.
>
> My political party is the Norwegian Liberal Party - we are firmly in
> the centre of the Norwegian political spectrum, and we have cooperated
> both with the left and the right. We are currently in a coalition
> government together with the Conservatives and the
> Christian-Democrats. Personally I have my reasons to dislike both of
> those parties, but they are better than the alternatives right now.
> Our party is pragmatic, yet firm on our ideology. We are small, and
> our current popular backing is at about 4%. We are small, yet we are
> important. Our 4% count for a lot in the parliamentary situation of
> today.
>
> In this election campaign, the socialists will do whatever they can to
> spread lies about the current government. Erm, let me rephrase that...
> In this election campaign, the socialists will do whatever they can to
> make things look worse than they are. It is my job, as editor of the
> member's magazine of the youth branch of our party, to work against
> some of this. It is my function as blogging and videoblogging
> responsible in our whole party to give our politicians and volunteers
> tools to spread OUR part of the story. I don't want the traditional
> media game to continue. I don't like the old talk-shows where each
> party is given 30 seconds to sell their "point". Politics is serious
> business, and I don't want to reduce it to some fucking circus.
> Debates take time, facts need to be uncovered, and spread, and
> different ideologies need to meet - in a dialogue.
>
> The blogosphere and vlogosphere are two of my most important tools in
> this election campaign. To be honest, there is not much of a
> vlogosphere here in Norway yet - as far as I know, I am still the only
> really active videoblogger here in Norway. I hope to be able to show
> how vlogging can help individuals, organizations or parties during
> this election campaign. I hope to show how videoblogging can be about
> more than whatever funny thing we happen to see in our neighbourhood,
> or some pretty flower.
>
>
> Polivlog 2005 is my initiative to spread the word of political
> videoblogging in Norway and abroad. We need to help organizations to
> start videoblogging. We need to show political parties, NGOs,
> individual pundits and others that videoblogging can be a highly
> effective and very low-budget approach to PR.
>
> If you are interested in Polivlog 2005, I urge you to help. You don't
> have to join my team, you don't have to subscribe to my tag or steal
> the badge that I will make, but I would be happy if we could
> communicate about how to spread political videoblogging. Or
> organizational videoblogging, if you wish. (I just think polivlog
> sounds way cooler!!)
>
> Polivlog 2005 is about organizational videoblogging; it is about using
> videoblogging to share information about issues that concerns our
> society. Be it our street, our village, or our planet.
>
> There is so much information out there - we just need to spread it,
> aggragate it, and use it.
>
> Polivlogging might just be what we need to grow as a global society.
> Truly grow and learn from each other.
>
> Want to help?
>
> (ps. Yes, I know that I am active in a certain political party myself,
> and that you might wonder if I am mixing the issues here. I disagree
> with a lot of what the socialists are saying, but I am no bigot. I
> would LOVE to help the socialists, communists, racists,
> christian-conservatives or outright maniacs to videoblog. I would be
> happy to tell any political opponent about videoblogging and how it
> can help us all communicate. My goal is to enhance the freedom of
> speech, not just help my own little political party in our race
> against the other parties. Oh, and another disclaimer: Yes, I work for
> a blogging software company. I am videoblogging responsible at
> BlogSoft)
>
> ps2: Thank you to Peter for giving me the polivlog word. I pronounce
> it with a 'f'.
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

There's an easy way to rotate an image using QuickTime Pro.

Go to the Movie menu,  select Get Movie Properties.

Then select Video Track, and then select Size.

You are presented with arrows that allow you to rotate the image.

Easy.
--Steve
http://stevegarfield.com

On May 1, 2005, at 2:30 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:

> I forgot that I
> was no longer doing stills, and left the camera sideways. So now I
> have a sideways video. Is there something that will flip it over for
> me?

Or in Win Movie Maker:

Right click > Video Effects > Rotate 90 degrees

You can also rotate 180 or 270.

> a) Offer password protected downloads, for each file and each subscriber (or
> group of subscribers), ideally over time periods.
> b) Deal with payments.

I can recommend CCbill for the first 2 issues (although if you want to
accept Visa there's a $1500 fee, ooo I hate Visa), and I'm currently
investigating the secured RSS thing myself.

> c) Offer a password secured RSS 2.0 feed.

Let's compare notes:

If you put your RSS feed in a password protected directory, users will
only be able to access it if their aggregator supports HTTP
authentication, or they are viewing it in their browser.

A list of these aggregators is at:
http://labs.silverorange.com/archives/2003/july/privaterss

From what I gather, you'll be using this to deliver enclosures to customers?
I'd think simple HTTP authentication should be enough security for
this application, probably wouldn't worry about SSL.

I'm going to be using this for a client's site soon, we'll see how
many people actually Get it.
My guess: Not many.
Most people don't even know what RSS is, much less secure RSS.  But,
if you make delivery seamless enough and give good step-by-step
instructions I suppose they won't really have to.

-Adam

ANT supports HTTP authentication... however I'm not sure how to handle
payments on the client side. Maybe you accept the payment first
through some other means, and then distribute the login that the user
needs to complete authentication.

However... its not all that secure if the user is downloading files...
if you are looking at that model then you probably want streaming or
something with DRM protection...

I'd be interested to learn more though...

-Josh


On 5/1/05, Adam Quirk <bullemhead@...> wrote:
> > a) Offer password protected downloads, for each file and each subscriber (or
> > group of subscribers), ideally over time periods.
> > b) Deal with payments.
>
> I can recommend CCbill for the first 2 issues (although if you want to
> accept Visa there's a $1500 fee, ooo I hate Visa), and I'm currently
> investigating the secured RSS thing myself.
>
> > c) Offer a password secured RSS 2.0 feed.
>
> Let's compare notes:
>
> If you put your RSS feed in a password protected directory, users will
> only be able to access it if their aggregator supports HTTP
> authentication, or they are viewing it in their browser.
>
> A list of these aggregators is at:
> http://labs.silverorange.com/archives/2003/july/privaterss
>
> From what I gather, you'll be using this to deliver enclosures to customers?
> I'd think simple HTTP authentication should be enough security for
> this application, probably wouldn't worry about SSL.
>
> I'm going to be using this for a client's site soon, we'll see how
> many people actually Get it.
> My guess: Not many.
> Most people don't even know what RSS is, much less secure RSS.  But,
> if you make delivery seamless enough and give good step-by-step
> instructions I suppose they won't really have to.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Thanks for the samples.

OK well I see your tests as being extremely promising for h.264.

If I am thinking correctly Your h.264 example is handling 8 times more
information than
the 3ivx sample:

Your 3ivx is at 320x240 wheras the h.264 at 640x480 has 4 times as many pixels.
And
the framerate on your H.264 clip is 30fps as opposed to 15fps in the 3ivx
example. So
thats 8 times as much raw video being handled in the h.264 clip, but the
filesize is only
twice as big as the 3ivx.

have I got that right?

The quality of your h.264 clip is somewhat spoiled by interlacing issues. I can
see the
dreaded jaggedy lines at various points.

Anyway I now own a Mac mini, hoorah, got tiger on it and just bought quicktime 7
pro 10
minutes ago, so I will see what tests I can do to help evaluate h.264 further.

The main problem so far is that I have not seen clips in 3ivx and h.264 that can
be directly
compared due to people picking different resolutions etc.

Jason Romney, cheers for the H.264 clip yopu have done too. Its in 3gp format at
resolutions designed for mobile phones, so it doesnt look very nice on my
computer.

Cheers

Steve of Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf <inthecity@s...> wrote:
> Jan, you're not missing much -- but, since you asked -- I'm putting
> up a 3ivx version right now...
>
> Josh
>
> http://thisrevolution.blogspot.com
>
>
> On May 1, 2005, at 1:18 AM, Jan McLaughlin wrote:
>
> > Josh,
> >
> > My G4 QT6 Pro came back with a "QT doesn't have the software" error
> > when accessing the vid page.
> >
> > Jan
> > [growling like a Tiger]
> >
> > On May 1, 2005, at 1:40 AM, Josh Wolf wrote:
> >
> > > I've got some video from the Tiger Launch at the SF Apple store in
> > > H264 on my blog. I put it up at 640x480 in the hopes that I could
> > > make a file that's manageable, and yet looks good for full-screen
> > > video. No luck... oh well... I think I agree with Michael that 3IVX
> > > seems to be just as good as H264 for the most part. It certainly is
> > > more intuitive when it comes to tweaking the preferences for the
> > codec.
> > >
> > > Here's the clip from the launch:
> > > http://tinyurl.com/de3ku
> > >
> > > Josh
> > >
> > > On Apr 30, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Jason Romney wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Folks,
> > >>
> > >> I've uploaded to www.netvideo.com.au an H264 edition of the
> > >> Netvideo episode
> > >> which is about Tiger, having encoded it on the Tiger I've installed
> > >> (following an upgrade to Quicktime 7).
> > >>
> > >> http://homepage.mac.com/jason_romney/JasonSwifte290405.3gp
> > >>
> > >> I'm having a lot of trouble getting the framerate right in H263
> > >> encodes, by
> > >> the way, and would appreciate anyone's insights here. H264 works
> > >> fine when I
> > >> play it back, but H263 seems to only show the first frames of the
> > >> video and
> > >> then somehow get "stuck" on a frame and refuse to show the rest
> > of the
> > >> video. The audio is fine. Does anyone have some H263 video encode
> > >> configuration settings that work well for them? And on which
> > >> cellphones have
> > >> people tested H263, and of course, also, H264 encodes, for good
> > smooth
> > >> playback so far?
> > >>
> > >> By the way, overall, I'm delighted with Tiger, but I've had to
> > update
> > >> numerous pieces of software at considerable expense (eg Timbuktu
> > >> Pro). In
> > >> addition, some critical software I use often, such as
> > >> BlogWaveStudio (which
> > >> I use to publish my Web site), quits in Tiger and a new version
> > >> 1.9.1 isn't
> > >> expected for a week or two...so its back to manual coding for a
> > while.
> > >>
> > >> Kind regards,
> > >> Jason Romney
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> However... its not all that secure if the user is downloading files...
> if you are looking at that model then you probably want streaming or
> something with DRM protection...

You're right, it's not that secure.
Probably secure enough though.
DRM is difficult and expensive, password protection is easy and cheap.

Streamload just popped into my head, I think they offer password protection.
May want to check them out.

Adam

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On May 1, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Steve Watkins wrote:

> Thanks for the samples.
>
> OK well I see your tests as being extremely promising for h.264.
>
> If I am thinking correctly Your h.264 example is handling 8 times
> more information than
> the 3ivx sample:
>
> Your 3ivx is at 320x240 wheras the h.264 at 640x480 has 4 times as
> many pixels. And
> the framerate on your H.264 clip is 30fps as opposed to 15fps in
> the 3ivx example. So
> thats 8 times as much raw video being handled in the h.264 clip,
> but the filesize is only
> twice as big as the 3ivx.
>
> have I got that right?
>

Hey Steve,
Actually, doubling the framerate doesn't double the file size.  In
fact it only produces a slight increase.  This is something that
seems very counter intuitive but I've run across it before.  I have
no idea why this is.  Does anybody out there know?
Thanks,

-Verdi
http://michaelverdi.com
http://freevlog.blogspot.com

Yes its because of the way many forms of compression works.  They record
complete
frames of video only occasionally (keyframes) and other frames are stored  like
' what has
changed since the last frame' rather than the entire frame being stored.

If you tell the encoder to make video of a certain datarate, it cant go above
that no matter
what framerate and resolution you use, so the file wont be any larger, just more
compressed and more ugly.

When I was talking about 4 and 8 times more information, I was talking about
uncompressed video, how much 'raw information' the video encoder has to squeeze
into
whatever datarate you have specified.

So returnign to the tiger store opening video as an example:

The datarate for the 3ivx version is 258kbits/sec

The datarate for the h264 version has beeen set to around 658kbits/sec

These numbers probably include the audio too, but I wont worry about that for
now.

So the h.264 codec has been given just over twice as many bits per second in
which to
store the video. But it is being told to store the video with 4 times as many
pixels and
twice the number of frames = 8 times more raw video information in just over
twice as
much space.

Anyway the words Ive used to explain this has probably made my explanation not
100%
technically accurate, but hopefully its of some use.

A starting point for testing how good h.264 really is would be to encode with
exactly the
same framerate, datarate, keyframe settings, resolution and audio settings as
you already
use in 3ivx. Does it look better than 3ivx then?

More from me later once Ive actually managed to do testing on my mac.

Cheers

Steve of Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi <michael@m...> wrote:
> Hey Steve,
> Actually, doubling the framerate doesn't double the file size.  In
> fact it only produces a slight increase.  This is something that
> seems very counter intuitive but I've run across it before.  I have
> no idea why this is.  Does anybody out there know?
> Thanks,
>
> -Verdi
> http://michaelverdi.com
> http://freevlog.blogspot.com

Woohoo, OMN published me.

I thought for sure they weren't going to put me in their guide because
of how long it took to review my site.

So, if they will publish my stuff I wonder what it would take to get
censored by them.  I did use a lot of copyrighted music (for effect)
without giving credit...

Anyway, props to them for not censoring me :)

Hello, my name is Matt and most of the time I have no idea what I am doing. I
made this
video last year, it was the first thing I ever made. I got it online, but have
no idea why it
takes so long to download. Since you are all better than me at this, is there
anything I can
do to expedite the download process.

http://movies13.archive.org/1/movies/SmashingPumpkin/Smashing_Pumpkin.avi

.avi :)

.avi is a very little compresssed movie format.

check this out: http://www.michaelverdi.com/demo/compresscompare.html
for one way of doing it. I won't enter the whole debate of what
compression codec or video format is "best", but .avi for sure is not
the best solution for fast downloads.

Best,
Raymond M. Kristiansen

On 5/2/05, floridablue64 <floridablue64@...> wrote:
>  Hello, my name is Matt and most of the time I have no idea what I am doing.
> I made this
>  video last year, it was the first thing I ever made. I got it online, but
> have no idea why it
>  takes so long to download. Since you are all better than me at this, is
> there anything I can
>  do to expedite the download process.
>
> http://movies13.archive.org/1/movies/SmashingPumpkin/Smashing_Pumpkin.avi
>
>
>
>
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At this moment, I have 666 unread emails (or is it threads?) with the
videoblogging label in my gmail account. Scary.

R.

floridablue64 wrote:

> Hello, my name is Matt and most of the time I have no idea what I am
> doing. I made this
> video last year, it was the first thing I ever made. I got it online,
> but have no idea why it
> takes so long to download. Since you are all better than me at this,
> is there anything I can
> do to expedite the download process.
>
> http://movies13.archive.org/1/movies/SmashingPumpkin/Smashing_Pumpkin.avi
>
>
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I don't know that much about this either...but it seems to me that maybe
because it's an Avi file it's huge.  Check out Michael Verdi's
tutorials...they are awesome and helped me along.
http://michaelverdi.com/index.htm
He has a section on Videoblogging info.

Hope this helps,
Patricia

Looking at your page on archive.org (http://tinyurl.com/a2tsb), it
says your movie is 408MB. That's close to half a gigabyte! You need to
compress your movies for web delivery to get that file size to a place
that is manageable and reasonable as a download. My personal
preference is something under 20MB, which is usually achievable with
fairly short movies and good compression.

Quicktime Pro is really a compression swiss army knife, and is a steal
for $30 (whether you are using Windows or Macintosh). I do a lot of
work with video on the web and can honestly say that I rely on QT Pro
almost daily for format conversions and compression.

If you are using Windows and don't want to spend the money for QT Pro,
you should be able to import your AVI into Windows Movie Maker (free
program that comes with XP) and convert your AVI into a reasonably
sized WMV. You may have to tweak the settings to get something that
looks good and has an acceptable file size... it would be great if
someone could send their WMV compression settings to this group in the
form of a tutorial the way Michael Verdi has done with 3ivx...

-Josh


On 5/1/05, R. Kristiansen <raymondmk@...> wrote:
> .avi :)
>
> .avi is a very little compresssed movie format.
>
> check this out: http://www.michaelverdi.com/demo/compresscompare.html
> for one way of doing it. I won't enter the whole debate of what
> compression codec or video format is "best", but .avi for sure is not
> the best solution for fast downloads.
>
> Best,
> Raymond M. Kristiansen
>
> On 5/2/05, floridablue64 <floridablue64@...> wrote:
> >  Hello, my name is Matt and most of the time I have no idea what I am doing.
> > I made this
> >  video last year, it was the first thing I ever made. I got it online, but
> > have no idea why it
> >  takes so long to download. Since you are all better than me at this, is
> > there anything I can
> >  do to expedite the download process.
> >
> > http://movies13.archive.org/1/movies/SmashingPumpkin/Smashing_Pumpkin.avi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________
> >  Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
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> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/
> >
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> > videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Most people here using Quicktime have relied on Michael Verdi's
tutorial explaining his best compression results using 3ivx
compression codec with Final Cut Pro (works same for iMovie and
Quictktime Pro): http://www.michaelverdi.com/demo/3ivx.pdf

I would like to see something similar for WMV and Windows Movie Maker.
What are the best settings for web delivery and how to acheive them
using Movie Maker (or similar software). How do I create WMV files
with "progressive download" (what Quicktime calls "fast start") so
that my movie begins playing immediately when someone clicks the link,
without having to download the whole thing first?

Use Verdi's tutorial as a model for this... its been such a great
resource for this group, but there is nothing out there for those of
us in the Windows Media space (at least nothing to my knowledge).

So, someone out there in Windows land... you have your assignment!
Much love and mad props to anyone who takes on this challenge! You
will certainly receive lots of comments, feedback, and praise for your
efforts.

-Josh

avi is not the best solution due to there being no mainstream way to
watch it in an internet browser window, and it being a hassle for mac
users. However it is still the most common video file format used in
windows, and is widely used by pc users for sharing videos in
situations which dont require it to be shown directly in webpages.
Still it is not (and shouldnt be) the format that most videobloggers
use, so you wont find that many people here advising you to stick with
avi format.

avi is just a file format, like mov, it doesnt define how compressed
the file is or what the filesize is. Filesize, download time, quality
are caused by the type of video & audio codecs are used within the avi.

The reason your avi is so large, is because you have not chosen to
compress it in a format suitable for efficient web delivery. I have
not downloaded your video as it is nearly 400MB in size, but it is
quite probably in DV format, the format most video cameras use. This
format is geared towards giving pretty good quality, but it takes up a
lot of space, 1 hour of DV footage is about 13GB in size!

You have several choices, all of which involve recompressing the avi
that you have to a differeent format that will be loads smaller.

But it is a slightly awkward moment to try to advise you of the best
solution. So far you have been pointed towards a good guide by Michael
Verdi as to what settings to use in a compressor called 3ivx. However
most people using this are on the apple mac, and so are creating 3ivx
files which are saved as .mov type files. If you use 3ivx on the PC,
you are more likely to end up creating .avis that are compressed with
3ivx. This will create much smaller .avi files for you, but will not
be so great for people on the mac wanting to watch your stuff, and
they wont play in a browser window. If you want to create .mov files
using 3ivx on the PC, you need to buy quicktime pro  I think.

Also I think people are supposed to be buying 3ivx before they share
videos compressed with it. If true, this needs to be reflected in the
videoblogging guides that recommend 3ivx and show people how to do it.
Comments from people responsible for such guides are urgently sought,
as this issue is currently not finished and should not be ignored.

Sorry for confusing things, there are a number of free solutions to
make your video much smaller, its just tricky to get the right
combination to suit mac viewers and a few other issues. I will be
giving simpler and hopefully more useful advise on these issues in the
coming days.

Cheers

Steve of Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "R. Kristiansen"
<raymondmk@g...> wrote:
> .avi :)
>
> .avi is a very little compresssed movie format.
  but .avi for sure is not
> the best solution for fast downloads.
>
> Best,
> Raymond M. Kristiansen

By the way, once you've taken advantage of all the advice from these
good folks and compressed your film, post a link to it, okay?

Am familiar with PC stuff and have to say if your film was output to
500MB (that's pretty darned big) you might want to consider breaking it
up into smaller parts or "chapters". Out of curiosity, how long is the
film?

Jan

On May 1, 2005, at 6:11 PM, floridablue64 wrote:

> Hello, my name is Matt and most of the time I have no idea what I am
> doing. I made this
> video last year, it was the first thing I ever made. I got it online,
> but have no idea why it
> takes so long to download. Since you are all better than me at this,
> is there anything I can
> do to expedite the download process.
>
> http://movies13.archive.org/1/movies/SmashingPumpkin/
> Smashing_Pumpkin.avi
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

DUN DUN DUN!!!! cue creepy organ music...

On 5/1/05, R. Kristiansen <raymondmk@...> wrote:
> At this moment, I have 666 unread emails (or is it threads?) with the
> videoblogging label in my gmail account. Scary.
>
> R.
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


--
-Chris